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Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by KoloOyinbo(m): 3:33pm On Mar 27, 2016
gasgenius:


Some one quote a scripture and u are throwing stupid word .. Na so who na be

Oh not at the scripture but at the bibical misinterpretation and historical rubbish statements of a crank who clearly lacks even basic education and has not addressed even one of the points raised. As for the pidgin - europeans dont often understand all that rubbish. Now were you going to reveal the extent of your education?

We have certainly seen evidence of the lack of it! :-)

Oh sorry! Lol. I thought you were the original nutcase! Nope he just has zero idea of history and/ or the Bible.

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Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by KoloOyinbo(m): 3:37pm On Mar 27, 2016
sukkot:
[b]you are unlearned. the understanding of the bible can never be received in an academic institution. it can only come from God. I am sure you and your phd in christianity fools think a literal snake was talking to a woman and the snake told the woman to eat an apple << this is the rubbish people like you and your phd academicians learn. but the true wisdom behind that passage can only be given to you from God and not in schools. I am sure you also think a man was put into a den of lions full of starving lions and they did not eat him, i am sure you think the whole world was flooded and everyone killed and only 8 people survived and 8 people repopulated the world to 7 billion under 600 years, i am sure you think a whale ate a man and the man lived in the whale for 3 days and then the whale spat out the man <<<< this is the nonsense that you and your academicians talk about. i watch your phd in christianity fellows all the time and laugh at their ignorance. see those stories are allegories and symbolic and the true understanding of those stories can never be taught in college. only the holy spirit reveals that to you[/b]

I certainly dont interpret the Bible literally and study it both formally and informally. But we must recognise where metaphor is and is not used. Jesus is clearly one person through every mention. Again you ignore the historical evidence of the existence of the actual individual! Do you even know what it is? :-)

Did your village even have a school?
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by soderican(m): 3:39pm On Mar 27, 2016
Friday to sunday isnt 3days yet...go back to elementary school
Sanchez01:

You really need to be enlightened. You have forgotten quickly that the Easter celebration is a three day celebration, starting from Friday, which signifies his crucifixion down to Sunday where he arose from the grave. You would have done yourself a whole lot of good by not posting a picture thing because it is evident you know nothing about the subject matter.

Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by gasgenius(m): 3:42pm On Mar 27, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


Oh not at the scripture but at the bibical misinterpretation and historical rubbish statements of a crank who clearly lacks even basic education and has not addressed even one of the points raised. As for the pidgin - europeans dont often understand all that rubbish. Now were you going to reveal the extent of your education?

We have certainly seen evidence of the lack of it! :-)

This site is for Nigerians so if u dont understand our pidgin don't call it rubbish cuz ur irrish shit will be rubbish too
Talking about education if u really education u wont call pidgin rubbish .
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by KoloOyinbo(m): 3:43pm On Mar 27, 2016
soderican:
Friday to sunday isnt 3days yet...go back to elementary school

Must obviously they are counting the day crucified and day risen and the Saturday in between. So unless we wish to be stupidly pedantic thats three. But the other points from other posts are also valid. I also think it says somewhere 'on the third day'.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by sukkot: 3:44pm On Mar 27, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


I certainly dont interpret the Bible literally and study it both formally and informally. But we must recognise where metaphor is and is not used. Jesus is clearly one person through every mention. Again you ignore the historical evidence of the existence of the actual individual! Do you even know what it is? :-)

Did your village even have a school?
oh i just checked your picture and see you are a white man buahahahaha. listen here Mr whiteman, you are about to get an education today from me on how to read and understand the bible. first off let me give you a few verses letting you know the book is all allegories and symbolism

Galatians chapter 4 tells you the whole story of abraham is an allegory >>> galatians 4 vs 24 Which things are an allegory:

psalams 78 vs 2 I will open my mouth in a parable <<< GOD TELLING YOU THE BIBLE IS ALL PARABLES

MATTHEWS 13 VS 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? << EVERY WORD OF GOD INCLUDING THE BIBLE IS IN PARABLES ALLEGORIES AND SYMBOLISM

HOPE YOU ARE GETTING EDIFIED BY ME. SO ALL THAT STUFF YOU DID IN SEMINARY SCHOOL WAS CHILDS-PLAY
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by remigiusizunna(m): 3:47pm On Mar 27, 2016
Technically, Easter falls on the first Sunday after the full Moon after the Vernal Equinox. The worship of Attis and Cybele was very popular in Rome as late as the 3rd century. Attis was a soter, or savior, god who was reborn each year. This resurrection was celebrated beginning on the Friday after the full moon after the Vernal equinox (now Good Friday). It culminated on the following Sunday three days later. Since they were rivals, Christianity adopted the date for their soter and, once the Cybele cult faded, Christians had to keep the date since that was when everybody was used to celebrating the holiday.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by KoloOyinbo(m): 3:51pm On Mar 27, 2016
gasgenius:

This site is for Nigerians so if u dont understand our pidgin don't call it rubbish cuz ur irrish shit will be rubbish too
Talking about education if u really education u wont call pidgin rubbish .

Pidgin is a local lingua franca and varies from state to state in Naija. The 'How far' greeting widely used is often substituted by ' which levels' in warri. Now as it changes you have to ensure that who you are communicating with can understand you. Thats why I dont use Irish slang here, you would not understand it. It is foolish to use it to oyinbos no matter how strong their connection with Naija is or how long they have been coming.

Oh and Nairaland is for everybody I thought. When not actually in Naija I use it to keep close to the land I love and follow what the local trends are at the moment.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by gasgenius(m): 3:54pm On Mar 27, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


Pidgin is a local lingua franca and varies from state to state in Naija. The 'How far' greeting widely used is often substituted by ' which levels' in warri. Now as it changes you have to ensure that who you are communicating with can understand you. Thats why I dont use Irish slang here, you would not understand it. It is foolish to use it to oyinbos no matter how strong their connection with Naija is or how long they have been coming.

Oh and Nairaland is for everybody I thought. When not actually in Naija I use it to keep close to the land I love and follow what the local trends are at the moment.


I am from warri and his more foolish to call it rubbish ..
Who cares were u from . we are 99.99 percent black and Nigerians in nairaland .i will check ur fake pics to know u irish
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by KoloOyinbo(m): 3:56pm On Mar 27, 2016
sukkot:
oh i just checked your picture and see you are a white man buahahahaha. listen here Mr whiteman, you are about to get an education today from me on how to read and understand the bible. first off let me give you a few verses letting you know the book is all allegories and symbolism

Galatians chapter 4 tells you the whole story of abraham is an allegory >>> galatians 4 vs 24 Which things are an allegory:

psalams 78 vs 2 I will open my mouth in a parable <<< GOD TELLING YOU THE BIBLE IS ALL PARABLES

MATTHEWS 13 VS 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? << EVERY WORD OF GOD INCLUDING THE BIBLE IS IN PARABLES ALLEGORIES AND SYMBOLISM

HOPE YOU ARE GETTING EDIFIED BY ME. SO ALL THAT STUFF YOU DID IN SEMINARY SCHOOL WAS CHILDS-PLAY

Lol. Ramblings of a mental defective. I saw your threads on aliens on earth etc.

Seminary school is for clerics. My education was scientific in University and eventually business school.

I again ask for evidence of even the most basic education you may have been briefly exposed to?

Your posts have not yet addressed the historic proof of a man called Jesus. Guess you are unaware of them.

Your only edifying point is to illustrate what happens when people are uneducated.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by mattmobis(m): 3:57pm On Mar 27, 2016
It is because last year I celebrated my birthday on Tuesday but i would celebrate it on Thursday this year.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by KoloOyinbo(m): 4:00pm On Mar 27, 2016
gasgenius:

I am from warri and his more foolish to call it rubbish ..
Who cares were u from . we are 99.99 percent black and Nigerians in nairaland .i will check ur fake pics to know u irish

Lol. What fake pics? Do think clearly (if you can). If Nairaland is 99.99 percent black and nigerian it does not mean it is for Nigerians only. Dont know where you got that from.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by gasgenius(m): 4:03pm On Mar 27, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


Lol. What fake pics? Do think clearly (if you can). If Nairaland is 99.99 percent black and nigerian it does not mean it is for Nigerians only. Dont know where you got that from.

And if u think for once in ur life u will know that in Nigeria and in nairaland we use English and pidgin even native languages
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by sukkot: 4:06pm On Mar 27, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


Lol. Ramblings of a mental defective. I saw your threads on aliens on earth etc.

Seminary school is for clerics. My education was scientific in University and eventually business school.

I again ask for evidence of even the most basic education you may have been briefly exposed to?

Your posts have not yet addressed the historic proof of a man called Jesus. Guess you are unaware of them.

Your only edifying point is to illustrate what happens when people are uneducated.
Oh you gone get an education today from me mr whiteman grin grin grin

[b]ok first off the name Jesus means ' he saves '. when you go precept for precept you can get that info from matthew 1 vs 21. so the word JESUS means HE SAVES. now when we go to the book of revelation 19 vs 13 the bible tells us JESUS is THE WORD OF GOD. and it is this WORD OF GOD that SAVES you. so JESUS is aan allegorical way of saying THE WORD OF GOD. now this word of God can become flesh as descibed in the book of john if the word is sealed in certain people. then the word becomes flesh. are you starting to see how i slowly unravel the allegories and symbolism ? POINT BEING THERE WAS NO MAN NAMED JESUS. yeah there were several christs ( which christ is a word meaning to be anointed ) but there was no guy named JESUS walking around getting literally killed on a cross. historical evidence backs that up. the works of josephus have all been found to be phoney. there is absolutely no historical evidence of a man named JESUS and we have world history that goes all the way back to egypt which is 4000 years before christ. we have all documented history but none of a fellow named JESUS walking around and getting killed on a literal cross and waking up 3 days after. these stories are all allegories and symbolism[/b]
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by tpiar: 4:07pm On Mar 27, 2016
gurunlocker:
why is January 1 falling on different days?

Different dates, the op wasnt asking about different days.

For example, he or she is wondering why Easter is in March this year and not April.



Hope folks havent spent their money on wild goose chases, that's a loss.

If some of you have collected payment based on the premise of Easter April, too bad sha, hope your bosses or clients pay up .
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by gucci20(m): 4:08pm On Mar 27, 2016
We are talkn abt biblical stuff, u are tlkn abt astrologers. Who created dem, were they in existence before Nissan 14? D reason is dt pple dnt follow d Jewish calendar which is d correct calendar dt proved dt, it shld be done every Nissan 14.

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Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by KoloOyinbo(m): 4:08pm On Mar 27, 2016
gasgenius:


And if u think for once in ur life u will know that in Nigeria and in nairaland we use English and pidgin even native languages

Merely pointing out that when you were clearly talking to an oyinbo you used language that would not be understood. In the classes and training I deliver in Naija we are always careful to ensure clear communication not just in English or a little pidgin but in any technical language that is required to be used.

What fake pictures? Or did you make a mistake?
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by Arclan07: 4:08pm On Mar 27, 2016
Easter dates are calculated eight days from the the dates the (equinox) ie .the day when the lengths of periods in day and nights are equal n this is determine by the metrologist in ancient times in Greece a goddess named easterious was believed to be responsible for the equinox and was thus worshipped eight days after the first equinox of the year is experienced.

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Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by Sanchez01: 4:12pm On Mar 27, 2016
soderican:
Friday to sunday isnt 3days yet...go back to elementary school
The Bible does not explicitly state on which day of the week Jesus was crucified. The two most widely held views are Friday and Wednesday. Some, however, using a synthesis of both the Friday and Wednesday arguments, argue for Thursday as the day.
Jesus said in Matthew 12:40 , “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Those who argue for a Friday crucifixion say that there is still a valid way in which He could have been considered in the grave for three days. In the Jewish mind of the first century, a part of day was considered as a full day. Since Jesus was in the grave for part of Friday, all of Saturday, and part of Sunday—He could be considered to have been in the grave for three days. One of the principal arguments for Friday is found in Mark 15:42 , which notes that Jesus was crucified “the day before the Sabbath.” If that was the weekly Sabbath, i.e. Saturday, then that fact leads to a Friday crucifixion. Another argument for Friday says that verses such as
Matthew 16:21 and Luke 9:22 teach that Jesus would rise on the third day; therefore, He would not need to be in the grave a full three days and nights. But while some translations use “on the third day” for these verses, not all do, and not everyone agrees that “on the third day” is the best way to translate these verses. Furthermore,
Mark 8:31 says that Jesus will be raised “after” three days

Take your time to read this and come back. The world as we know it, before now, did not operate the 24hour setting the and did not operate our kind of calendar. You, my friend, need to be enlightened.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by KoloOyinbo(m): 4:14pm On Mar 27, 2016
sukkot:
Oh you gone get an education today from me mr whiteman grin grin grin

[b]ok first off the name Jesus means ' he saves '. when you go precept for precept you can get that info from matthew 1 vs 21. so the word JESUS means HE SAVES. now when we go to the book of revelation 19 vs 13 the bible tells us JESUS is THE WORD OF GOD. and it is this WORD OF GOD that SAVES you. so JESUS is aan allegorical way of saying THE WORD OF GOD. now this word of God can become flesh as descibed in the book of john if the word is sealed in certain people. then the word becomes flesh. are you starting to see how i slowly unravel the allegories and symbolism ? POINT BEING THERE WAS NO MAN NAMED JESUS. yeah there were several christs ( which christ is a word meaning to be anointed ) but there was no guy named JESUS walking around getting literally killed on a cross. historical evidence backs that up. the works of josephus have all been found to be phoney. there is absolutely no historical evidence of a man named JESUS and we have world history that goes all the way back to egypt which is 4000 years before christ. we have all documented history but none of a fellow named JESUS walking around and getting killed on a literal cross and waking up 3 days after. these stories are all allegories and symbolism[/b]

So the world is wrong and some fool who lacks any education is right! Lol!

We know you have just restated your little fantasy over and over without evidence or indeed without convincing anyone.

What of the clear Roman records etc etc.

Do you seriously think any educated person will give you any credence whatsoever?

Find a school in you village!
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by Einl(m): 4:17pm On Mar 27, 2016
Because it follows spring equinox...
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by sukkot: 4:18pm On Mar 27, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


So the world is wrong and some fool who lacks any education is right! Lol!

We know you have just restated your little fantasy over and over without evidence or indeed without convincing anyone.

What of the clear Roman records etc etc.

Do you seriously think any educated person will give you any credence whatsoever?

Find a school in you village!


like i said, narrow is the gate that leads to the truth and narrower are the number of those who even find it. when the world agrees on something- it is in your best interest to turn the other way because that definitely will not be the way of truth wink
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by gasgenius(m): 4:19pm On Mar 27, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


Merely pointing out that when you were clearly talking to an oyinbo you used language that would not be understood. In the classes and training I deliver in Naija we are always careful to ensure clear communication not just in English or a little pidgin but in any technical language that is required to be used.

What fake pictures? Or did you make a mistake?

Lol oyibo ... And u add kolo to it and saying i will view ur profile ask u that are u oyibo then you will say yes before i quote uu man u just don't want to say sorry for calling pidgin rubbish
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by KoloOyinbo(m): 4:20pm On Mar 27, 2016
sukkot:
like i said, narrow is the gate that leads to the truth and narrower are the number of those who even find it. when the world agrees on something- it is in your best interest to turn the other way because that definitely will not be the way of truth wink

Much too narrow to allow a in a fool like you perhaps. But as you are clearly mentally challenged God may be merciful in your case.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by genjutsu(m): 4:22pm On Mar 27, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
No one knows when he was born, killed. Resurrected. We just make.things up and everybody follows. What matters is the celebration.

Why have you decided to embarrass your educational background with such dullness from your mind.
Yet, someone will call you an adult.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by Nobody: 4:23pm On Mar 27, 2016
KoloOyinbo:
As some simple research will reveal the answer is straightforward and historical.

Christians in far away lands needed to know when to celebrate easter each year.

They could not await letters or messages as they were not sure to recieve such in good time or even at all.

They needed some even in the sky that all could see and so turned to the astronomers (note -not astrologers).

Now in almost every society, civil events are based on a Solar Calendar BUT religious events on a Lunar Calendar.

Given the above Easter was chosen as the first Sunday, after the first full moon, after the vernal equinox.

Nowadays of course we can predict the date millions of years ahead should we choose to but why change a wonderful tradition.

As a small and semi relevant aside - lets be carful not to confuse the science of astronomy with the silly superstition of trying to magically predict the future by positions of the planets called astrology. That was shown to be rubbish many hundreds of years ago.
Astronomy = science, proveable and known.
Astrology = uneducated superstition belonging in the same category as juju, magic, mami waters etc.

Thanks. Just to add to that:
The Vernal Equinox is also known as the March Equinox. Equi - equal and Nox - nocturnal or night. This is the day of the year (along with the September Equinox) when the duration of day and night are about equal, which always falls in March and signifies the onset of Spring.
So basically Easter always falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the March Equinox.
This date is always between March 22nd and April 25th.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by KoloOyinbo(m): 4:26pm On Mar 27, 2016
DanNafada:


Thanks. Just to add to that:
The Vernal Equinox is also known as the March Equinox. Equi - equal and Nox - nocturnal or night. This is the day of the year (along with the September Equinox) when the duration of day and night are about equal, which always falls in March and signifies the onset of Spring.
So basically Easter always falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the March Equinox.
This date is always between March 22nd and April 25th.

Thanks. I was an astronomer for 21 years so always used the formal term Vernal equinox. Forgot that might not be clear to many. So yes, March Equinox is preferable.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by youngelder(m): 4:26pm On Mar 27, 2016
pet4ril:
I have been thinking too...
A Jehovah witness ones engaged me in the talk but i told them I wasn't interested. Ever since then, this question has already been in my mind.
Please i would like someone to educate me on it
how about you try meeting the witness-er? Lol
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by hesinbergx(m): 4:27pm On Mar 27, 2016
That is the misery God kept away from man.
Lets just celebrated it for our salvation is here.
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by sukkot: 4:27pm On Mar 27, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


Much too narrow to allow a in a fool like you perhaps. But as you are clearly mentally challenged God may be merciful in your case.

listen here mr whiteman, i have destroyed your literal bible interpretation and your foundation, shouldnt you be begging me to teach you how to esoterically understand the bible and to build you back up ? dont be proud now cuz I am sure you know the kingdom of heaven is only for the meek and humble and not the proud grin grin
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by souljaboi51(m): 4:30pm On Mar 27, 2016
its because of the moon grin grin grin
Re: Why Is Easter Always Falling On Different Dates? (picture) by olawale3525(m): 4:33pm On Mar 27, 2016
Thought xtians do mock muslims durn there fastn nd festival coz of inaccurate date, fact is that gregorian calender is a fake........... #proudtobeamuslim

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