laudate:


Oh, that is the new angle you want to start from? Murtala Mohammed came from....where? Dimka, Bisalla & co, who killed him hailed from ....where? A lot of Southerners saw it as a Northern coup, carried out by Northern minorities against core Northern chaps. Apart from that, the coup plotters and coup victims were all military men (i.e. military boys vs. military generals). And people tagged it as such, or how else would people have described it? It was quite different from the January 1966 coup, where military boys summarily executed elected civilian political leaders of other ethnic groups, who were unarmed except for one person.

Now, stop digressing. If the 1976 coup bothers you so much, start another thread for it, and we can open up discussions there. Do not derail this thread, biko.

nku5:
All this twisting of grammar is pointless. Were the plotters of the 1976 coup mainly of Angas/Plateau stock? Simple yes or no. If yes why did you and yours not label it as "Plateau coup"?

After all despite concrete statements in Ademoyega's 35 year old, unchallenged,authoritative book to the contrary, you and people like you are still contorting yourselves into odd shapes to insist that the 1966 coup was an "Igbo coup".

The main plank of this thread is an article which alleges that Igbos as a group somehow deserve blame for Nzeogwu and co. So relax, we will examine every angle to this discussion.

laudate:


I said Fani-Kayode escaped death. And anyone reading through all the accounts connected with his escape, would realise that he escaped death through the hand of Providence, not because an onye Igbo rescued him. Was it Ironsi that personally took him out of the grip of his captors who abducted him, did Ironsi take him to the barracks? As for the other questions I asked, you have dodged it several times on this thread by latching on to irrelevant stories.

laudate:


It has been published that Fani-Kayode was abducted by Nwobosi's men, and driven to Akintola's house. He escaped death from there, while gun fire was being exchanged by both parties. So how was he rescued or recaptured? In what way did Ademoyega do justice to my questions, please?.

Newmanluckyman:
... In your deliberate bid to buttress your points that 1966 coup was an 'igbo coup', you have unwittingly let the cat out of the bag. So you have finally believed that there are indigenous igbos in Midwest now South South? Also, that Osadebe Dennis the former premier of the Midwest is also an igbo man? So you won't deny anymore that there wasn't any indigenous igbos in Niger Delta? If you answer yes to those questions objectively, do you now see why igbos referred to themselves as SE/SS? Hope you won't continue making caricature of igbos or saying that they are attaching themselves to SS. It is only the truth that will set us free and it begins with you now. Goodluck bro.

laudate:


Was it Ironsi that personally took him out of the grip of his captors who abducted him, did Ironsi take him to the barracks?

nku5:
Watching you dribble yourself, split hairs and score own goals is sad to watch

laudate:


I do not know what kind of answer you want, you this chameleon with multiple identities. On different threads, people said 'Anioma people were NOT Igbo.'[/i] Your IPOB crew screamed blue murder and alleged vociferously that they were Igbo, using all the ammunition and propaganda at their disposal. Those who disagreed with them were labelled Afonja and insulted to an inch of their lives. Okay, o!

Now today, people are saying on this thread that [i]Anioma folks are Igbo, and you are still complaining. [b]What exactly do you want?[/b] And why are you getting worked up, by this statement? Afterall, not all the Igbo coup plotters were Anioma. Other Igbo coup plotters like Onwuatuegwu who was an Igbo from Nnewi, and Anuforo who also hailed from the South-East were part of the whole event.

nku5:


This is shameful. Jokes apart.

The accurate half of your confused post states that Fani Power was FREED AT THE MESS. Why are you still asking k-legged questions? Ironsi's troops were AT the mess when Nwobosi's group arrived. IRONSI'S men arrested them and freed Fani-Kayode

Newmanluckyman:
.... But why the insult? Is this not supposed to be a friendly discourse? So your lies and hypocrisy have been punctured. Desist from outright falsehood. From the bolded, please who are the 'people'? So I can rightly say that ' people 'said that you are from Togo. Truth is the oxygen of the soul.

laudate:


Oh, because I omitted the word 'death' from the second comment, you are now jubilating? Trust you, to seize on inconsequential omissions. Ok, where is the answer to my previous question: The Sardauna, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Festus Okotie-Eboh[b] did not resist arrest,[/b] but were still shot by Igbo coup plotters. Why?? This is the 5th time this question has been thrown at you, and you have remained mute. When are you going to provide an answer?

laudate:


It was not an insult, but a description of you and your actions. Do you deny that you have multiple identities on NL? As for lies and falsehood, yourself and your brothers, have been regurgitating it repeatedly. Simply do a content analysis of their posts, and the facts will be revealed.

My own comments have been backed with facts and different sources. While those recycled by your friends and yourself have been filled with conjecture, fallacy and assumptions. So, desist from spreading utter lies, please. Now, who is telling lies and peddling falsehood, but you and your IPOB-ian friends on this thread?

Newmanluckyman:
.... But why the insult? Is this not supposed to be a friendly discourse? So your lies and hypocrisy have been punctured. Desist from outright falsehood. From the bolded, please who are the 'people'? So I can rightly say that ' people 'said that you are from Togo. Truth is the oxygen of the soul.

laudate:


Haba!! You are the shameful one, now! You said that Fani-Kayode was freed by an Igbo son, who was Ironsi. Point of correction - loyal troops or officers of the Nigerian Army were at the mess, when Nwobosi's men got there. Yet, Ironsi was nowhere near the Federal Officers' Guard Mess when Fani-Kayode was escorted by the acting Minister of Defence, out of captivity. So why are you ascribing Fani-Kayode's escape from death to him??

Finally, answer the simple question that you have been asked repeatedly on this thread: "The Sardauna, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Festus Okotie-Eboh did not resist arrest, but were still shot by Igbo coup plotters. Why??

nku5:
This gets more childish with each reply you type. Stop scurrying around and dribbling yourself, you are smarter than this! Let me spell your 50 kobo sense out for you -

You typed some unbelievable jagbajantis in your post -

1. That Fani-Kayode escaped while Nwobosi's men were trying to get Akintola in Ibadan

2. That the same Fani-Kayode who "escaped" in Ibadan was freed in Officer Mess, Ikoyi, Lagos

3. That Ironsi cannot be given credit for the release of Fani-Kayode by the troops that he (Ironsi) commanded because he didnt do it personally Chai!!

Its as if you are playing dumb to save face and it wont work. Stand by your words like a man and stop looking for silly, shallow holes to hide...

nku5:
I have never seen a grown man do this..

So when you claim that Gowon won the war do you mean that Gowon singlehandedly defeated Biafra?

So because Igbos are now involved the military chain of command suddenly doesnt matter and a commander is suddenly not relevant? Same way 1976 coup is not "Plateau coup" but the 1966 coup is "Igbo coup"?

Besides shamelessly dribbling and denying what you typed for the world to see you now want to contest Ademoyega's account that the plotters because it easily crushes your propaganda and lies. Even if I upload another account regarding Sardauna's resistance to Nzeogwu's men you will still look for a cockroach hole to hide from the truth

My goodness...

laudate:


And I have never seen a grown man like you, hiding under the garment of inanities and digression, in a bid to escape from the truth. Grow up.

I have answered you as to why the January 1966 coup was seen as an Igbo coup, while the 1976 coup was not seen as a Plateau affair. Go back and re-read my comments with an open mind for better understanding, if you can.

As for the Sardauna's death, you have not said anything that makes sense. The Sardauna did NOT resist arrest, yet he was killed. His wife Habsetu, did not resist arrest but she was shot in cold blood. Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Festus Okotie-Eboh did not resist arrest, but were still shot by Igbo coup plotters. Why? Try to answer the questions, without digressing again, or clutching at lame straws like the 1976 coup or FFK's father!

laudate:


You see, your childish tactics are getting more ridiculous by the minute. It has become a form of comic relief on this thread. I have made several valid points on this thread, backed by facts. But you are only fixated on the aspect that concerns Fani-Kayode, as if it puts coins in your pocket.

Newmanluckyman:
.... I engaged you in a friendly and educative discourse thinking that you are matured enough for it but alas, I was HUGELY DISAPPOINTED.

blues2022:
[s]@laudate, you‘ll soon meet your waterloo, oh two-faced Janus. Cloaking behind innocent postulation, and pushing your anti-Igbo agenda, will not shield you…. Your obsession will lead to your deserved end[/s].

nku5:
You have not shown ONE piece of evidence to back up your igbo coup fantasy. Besides arguing to save face you have proved and said nothing! I have used my precious data to upload Ademoyega accounts that have been accepted over 36 years of scrutiny. All you have been doing is dribbling yourself. The best you have done is to copy and paste a link and an article that contradicts you badly

laudate:


And I have never seen a grown man like you, hiding under the garment of inanities and digression, in a bid to escape from the truth. Grow up.

I have answered you as to why the January 1966 coup was seen as an Igbo coup, while the 1976 coup was not seen as a Plateau affair. Go back and re-read my comments with an open mind for better understanding, if you can.

As for the Sardauna's death, you have not said anything that makes sense. The Sardauna did NOT resist arrest, yet he was killed. His wife Habsetu, did not resist arrest but she was shot in cold blood. Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Festus Okotie-Eboh did not resist arrest, but were still shot by Igbo coup plotters. Why? Try to answer the questions, without digressing again, or clutching at lame straws like the 1976 coup or FFK's father!

Eledan:
I told you yesterday these guys you are dealing with have no shame. The intention is to lure you into their familiar terrain, which is insults. You will NEVER have any meaningful conversation with these sort of people.

nku5:
Even a 5 year old can see how crappy your attempt to explain away the Plateau dimension of the 1976 coup is

Ademoyega says Sardauna resisted. I believe him over you because he knows more than you can ever know bruv.

*drops mic*

laudate:


Na true word you talk! I should have listened to your advice, earlier. You need to see all the tactics they have deployed to attack me on this thread - from claiming my comments were false (even when relevant supporting documents were cited), to digressing and rambling about the 1976 coup, to whether Anioma people were Igbo and then on to FFK's father. Na wa, o!

nku5:
Even a 5 year old can see how crappy your attempt to explain away the Plateau dimension of the 1976 coup is

Ademoyega says Sardauna resisted. I believe him over you because he knows more than you can ever know bruv.

*drops mic*

nku5:
*picks mic again*

I hope you are not obtaining much needed succour and comfort from your other NL account Eleran! Lol! I don dey suspect you o.

Which document you cite sef except that Fani-Kayode link that flew apart like a pack of cards leaving you naked

*drops mic*

Nowenuse:


Igbophobic? And how do u know that am not from Anioma, Ikwerre, Etche, Ekpeye e.t.c?
See this one talking as if it is not these groups of people i am living with in Delta state, winning and dinning with, and hardly do u even see any of them talk about Igbo agenda.
You can never see an Ika, Ukwuani, Anochia or Ikwerre person carry Igbo matter for head. Hardly! Cos most do not even believe they are Igbos.
Let's watch na, it's no more Biafra, it's now 'Oke alozie oheze'. LoLL....continous clowns. Which would it be next?

laudate:


Go back to the beginning of this thread and go through all my comments carefully. You will see all the sources I cited, to back up each point I made. But I know, this task would be too difficult for you to carry out, since you are fixated on FFK's father, and you find it easier to swallow tales by moonlight, that are woven by spin doctors!

Please provide proof to show that Laudate is Eledan, or it would never be well with you in this lifetime and the next!

Eledan:


You don't need to curse anyone to prove anything to them, its still part of their strategy to get the focus away from the germane issues you've raised.
These folks are my regular customers with the same modus operandi - taking your eyes off the ball