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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 9:27am On May 31, 2017
jln115:

The weight of the pilots balls must be what's causing the Rooivalk to fly that low.
grin grin grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 9:49am On May 31, 2017
This is an interesting resource on weapons systems prices;everything from SAMs to MPAs.

http://nationsdawnofanera.weebly.com/-helicopters.html

HAL LCH 30 MN$

HAL Rudra 15 MN$

KA 50 42.5 MN$

KA 52 55 MN$

MI 24 12 MN

MI24 D 15 MN

MI 28 NE 40 MN

MI 35 16 MN

ROOIVALK 45 MN

AH-1 Cobra 20 MN

AH-1W SuperCobra 30 MN

AH-1Z Viper 40 MN

AH-6 10 MN

S Africans,I hope you see why the Rooivalk can't sell. If you produce a light version at 30-50% off you'll find a buyer.

I'dve thought the KAF would first go for transport. 3 years back a C 295 was doing circuits above MAB and we all thought a couple were en route,but alas!
We need light and medium lifters as of yesterday! Imo,even more than newer FSBs. Ideally,at least 6 C295s and 2 Y8s.hanxi Y8 35 MN$

Shanxi Y9 45 MN$


c 295 35 mn

C 235 25 MN$

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:22am On May 31, 2017
jln115:

The weight of the pilots balls must be what's causing the Rooivalk to fly that low.
clearly... yooooo I was in shock, I wonder what will happen if a US army pilot did that with an apache.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:26am On May 31, 2017
NAF regiment

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 10:51am On May 31, 2017
newafricaken254:
.before tinfoil start posting alshabaab propaganda, yesterday alshabaab released a propaganda video .which featured the battle of Kulbiyow, it basically showed we have a force that is a failure and full of deception(only God protect us)

You win some and you lose some. You can't win all the time. What matters most is to win most of the time.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 11:12am On May 31, 2017
tdayof:


Don't blame the force. The guys did their best, military personnel are also human. Let blame our governments as they lack foresight.

At times I feel there's someone making money in this war against terrorism.
our government aka politician aren't to blame ,its the high ranking officers e.g the general who should be blame.due to the failures of 2006 leabanon war,some high ranking officer were forced to resign.but here in Africa its the other way around
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 11:18am On May 31, 2017
Jordanian-made AB2 Al-Jawad multipurpose utility vehicle with Egyptian central security forces

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 11:34am On May 31, 2017
One of the 35 Libya|n pilot cadets who graduated in Egypt on 20 July 2016

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by 61mech: 11:47am On May 31, 2017
The high price of the Rooivalk is because of the low production nr's. Its called economies of scale.
If it was produced as planned 36+ airframes the price would have been lower. That's one of the reasons they need a order of at least 60-80 to get production started again. You see the same thing every time the US congress cuts the order for the F-35 or f-22. The unit price goes up instantly.

The development of the aircraft were actually done extremely cheaply compared to other A-helos. A colleague of mine who worked at Atlas at the time told me when the Americans came over for a visit they asked about how much it cost to develop. They didn't believe the nr. Atlas gave them and felt a bit insulted because they thought they were joking.


kikuyu1:
This is an interesting resource on weapons systems prices;everything from SAMs to MPAs.

http://nationsdawnofanera.weebly.com/-helicopters.html

HAL LCH 30 MN$

HAL Rudra 15 MN$

KA 50 42.5 MN$

KA 52 55 MN$

MI 24 12 MN

MI24 D 15 MN

MI 28 NE 40 MN

MI 35 16 MN

ROOIVALK 45 MN

AH-1 Cobra 20 MN

AH-1W SuperCobra 30 MN

AH-1Z Viper 40 MN

AH-6 10 MN

S Africans,I hope you see why the Rooivalk can't sell. If you produce a light version at 30-50% off you'll find a buyer.

I'dve thought the KAF would first go for transport. 3 years back a C 295 was doing circuits above MAB and we all thought a couple were en route,but alas!
We need light and medium lifters as of yesterday! Imo,even more than newer FSBs. Ideally,at least 6 C295s and 2 Y8s.hanxi Y8 35 MN$

Shanxi Y9 45 MN$


c 295 35 mn

C 235 25 MN$

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 11:54am On May 31, 2017
Two suspects arrested and explosives and other materials concealed in a vegetable truck intercepted by Somali security forces in Bosaso.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 12:31pm On May 31, 2017
61mech:
The high price of the Rooivalk is because of the low production nr's. Its called economies of scale.
If it was produced as planned 36+ airframes the price would have been lower. That's one of the reasons they need a order of at least 60-80 to get production started again. You see the same thing every time the US congress cuts the order for the F-35 or f-22. The unit price goes up instantly.

The development of the aircraft were actually done extremely cheaply compared to other A-helos. A colleague of mine who worked at Atlas at the time told me when the Americans came over for a visit they asked about how much it cost to develop. They didn't believe the nr. Atlas gave them and felt a bit insulted because they thought they were joking.



True but look at the Indian LCH 50% cheaper than yours. My point remains: you should've gone for a more basic lite design cause now you're competing with the Apache and Euro Tiger,pushed by heavy weight global politics.
Here's what one of your websites says:
So, an alternative is to reinvest in the Rooivalk programme, order another 12, but to a new, more modern, yet simpler and cheaper, standard, and subsquently refurbish the existing aircraft to the same standard. [b]This ‘Rooivalk Mk 2’ would also produce a much cheaper aircraft, with a unit cost of less than $20-million. [/b]That would be financially and technically much more appealing to many developing countries.
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/what-went-wrong-with-the-rooivalk-2007-06-08-1
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:33pm On May 31, 2017
T90 tank simulators , Algerian army

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:50pm On May 31, 2017
some humor grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 1:32pm On May 31, 2017
kikuyu1:


True but look at the Indian LCH 50% cheaper than yours. My point remains: you should've gone for a more basic lite design cause now you're competing with the Apache and Euro Tiger,pushed by heavy weight global politics.
Here's what one of your websites says:
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/what-went-wrong-with-the-rooivalk-2007-06-08-1
Remember it was designed to operate in high threat environments.

It wasn't designed for the export market.

In terms of capabilities the Rooivalk can't be compared to the LCH.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 1:53pm On May 31, 2017
*Nigerian Army has been training since I was a kid but Nigeria has never had any war. Why can't they organise a friendly match with Iran?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:40pm On May 31, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
clearly... yooooo I was in shock, I wonder what will happen if a US army pilot did that with an apache.
Nothing.........Yank balls don't come in that size!!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:44pm On May 31, 2017
kikuyu1:
This is an interesting resource on weapons systems prices;everything from SAMs to MPAs.

http://nationsdawnofanera.weebly.com/-helicopters.html

HAL LCH 30 MN$

HAL Rudra 15 MN$

KA 50 42.5 MN$

KA 52 55 MN$

MI 24 12 MN

MI24 D 15 MN

MI 28 NE 40 MN

MI 35 16 MN

ROOIVALK 45 MN

AH-1 Cobra 20 MN

AH-1W SuperCobra 30 MN

AH-1Z Viper 40 MN

AH-6 10 MN

S Africans,I hope you see why the Rooivalk can't sell. If you produce a light version at 30-50% off you'll find a buyer.

I'dve thought the KAF would first go for transport. 3 years back a C 295 was doing circuits above MAB and we all thought a couple were en route,but alas!
We need light and medium lifters as of yesterday! Imo,even more than newer FSBs. Ideally,at least 6 C295s and 2 Y8s.hanxi Y8 35 MN$

Shanxi Y9 45 MN$


c 295 35 mn

C 235 25 MN$
How much does the Rooivalk cost?........ BTW 40mil you got from Google includes 20 plus years of R+D
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 2:51pm On May 31, 2017
Ghanaian military instructors conducted Jungle Warfare training for U.S. Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) during United Accord17 at the Jungle Warfare School on Achiase military base in Akim Oda, Ghana.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kenpaul0: 3:35pm On May 31, 2017
nothing go remain from Nigerian Army....everyone would be wiped out!!!


iblawi:
*Nigerian Army has been training since I was a kid but Nigeria has never had any war. Why can't they organise a friendly match with Iran?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 5:03pm On May 31, 2017
iblawi:


You win some and you lose some. You can't win all the time. What matters most is to win most of the time.
Normally I would not comment on Kenyan matters but apart from what my Nigerian brother said, it is wrong for you to put down your Country's armed forces like this, they are far from home in one of the most difficult countries on earth trying to defeat a determined foe, mistakes will be made by Military commanders that is inevitable , it however does not mean the whole KDF is culpable , remember " One battle does not win a war"
They ( KDF) will learn from it and move on.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 5:31pm On May 31, 2017
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 5:45pm On May 31, 2017
LTGEN:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/05/61st-anniversary-navy-now-fleet-200-platforms-naval-chief/
Navy Chief also implies that another Ship is being built.
Yes, NNS Karaduwa class. SDB
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:48pm On May 31, 2017
Ivorian minister of defense inspecting facilities

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:49pm On May 31, 2017
What navy is this?, looks like this picture was taken at a parade.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:52pm On May 31, 2017
US army green berets X UPDF

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 8:11pm On May 31, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
What navy is this?, looks like this picture was taken at a parade.
Namibia?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 8:12pm On May 31, 2017
kenpaul0:
nothing go remain from Nigerian Army....everyone would be wiped out!!!



Bros it's just a friendly match na, not the main war.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:15pm On May 31, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
What navy is this?, looks like this picture was taken at a parade.

maybe ghana
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by NNAMDIII(m): 8:16pm On May 31, 2017
jakeporeshenko:

That's right ! Twitter is very resourceful if you follow right people wink
yeah! I agree with you sir!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:17pm On May 31, 2017
MikeCZA:
Namibia?
It's the flag in the background that's throwing me off, looks like a west African country. Might be good OL Senegal
chkil0:


maybe ghana
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by NNAMDIII(m): 8:19pm On May 31, 2017
what type of uniform is this?

cc:tdayof,DEATHMACHINE

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:24pm On May 31, 2017
NNAMDIII:
what type of uniform is this?
cc:tdayof,DEATHMACHINE
Green Starchable for officers

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