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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:14am On Jun 03, 2017
safarigirl:
abeg, we are used to Musa and his flash in the pan moments, funny enough they always come with two goals. No be new wife cause am, after all, he had better luck with the old one.

Next game, he will return to his usual okada without control self
have mercy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:17am On Jun 03, 2017
safarigirl:
of.course Musa will start in the absence of VicMo, when VicMo returns, he shall return to the bench.

Calabar girls are myth, not legend
musa go die 4 your hand. Have mercy on him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:15am On Jun 03, 2017
komekn:


In the event that the desirable is not available then the available becomes desirable. That is how I sum up Omeruo.

He played a season for Middlesbrough in the championship he was not outstanding.

If you think he is the best we have? And if that is the best we have well then it's not good enough. We really need to look for somebody else.

I would say Dominic Iorfa is considerably better once his contract long term is sorted out he will play for Nigeria. His Dad is just playing the game can't openly commit to Nigeria just yet otherwise his value will drop.

I am looking long term, but we need to have a clear objective methodology based on performance for team selection.

The discussion is on who partners Ekong against SA.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:24am On Jun 03, 2017
komekn:

Onyedinma Sone Tega Iorfa Aina



oga na lie forgiveness version 2

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:27am On Jun 03, 2017
komekn:


In the event that the desirable is not available then the available becomes desirable. That is how I sum up Omeruo.

He played a season for Middlesbrough in the championship he was not outstanding.

If you think he is the best we have? And if that is the best we have well then it's not good enough. We really need to look for somebody else.

I would say Dominic Iorfa is considerably better once his contract long term is sorted out he will play for Nigeria. His Dad is just playing the game can't openly commit to Nigeria just yet otherwise his value will drop.

I am looking long term, but we need to have a clear objective methodology based on performance for team selection.
do we have players only in england?
Or if You are not playing in england you not good enh...?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:31am On Jun 03, 2017
komekn:


That's an assumption without track record justification.

If Rohr likes him he plays full stop even if he plays in Wales ranked number 50 in Europes.

If Osimhen after playing 10 minutes of football in a team at the bottom of Bundesliga can be invited. Then structureed selection methodology doesn't exist and subjectivity has overcome objectivity.

Then again some may say the end justifies the means. Long term that does not inspire players to play for the SE if it is perceived that objectivity and performance are not the main consideration.
this is normal every coach should expect this
if nff and many nigerians are behind rohr then no need to worry
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 7:41am On Jun 03, 2017
Joebie:
Thank you. The context is SE. Please can you list the classy ones in our fold?


we have very few of them...

Balogun
Mikel
Ndidi(he is showing some glimpses)
Etebo(highly under-rated)
Iwobi
Victor Moses and
Iheanacho.

These are the few I rate above the rest in the SE's.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 8:01am On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Gernot Rohr deserves full praise for his intuition and vision he showed when it came to identifying future talents of the Super Eagles.

A clear example is Awaziem who Rohr invited earlier, had a look in and was tipped as a promising key player of the side. In recent games, the young man showed exceptional quality. Both in training and during games.

At this time, it is riskier banking on Omeruo in the name of experience instead of quality shown in training and recent games.

If Rohr gives Awaziem the nod, he has my full blessings. As the days goes by, I get impressed by the vision of the Super Eagles team manager.

I hope Alampasu keeps giving 100% in training. He might never know when the German tactician will give him a nod.
Sorry for quoting you! But you really gonna play a 19 year old in front of wat..like 40000 screaming fans in a crucial qualifier with only just one international cap n still learning the rudiments of the game over one with experience from youth sides to national team n lots of cap in club football? Not for me..lolz...except he is a nesta or maldini or ramos..or is he? We are not rohr tho..so we have to wait nd see

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 8:11am On Jun 03, 2017
And for those thinking omeruo will play right back..I can only but smile...please look at the list again we got only 3 central defenders there..shehu has d rb spot on lock down..ebuehi as back up..only d goalkeeper spot m not sure off but I guess we have
Akpeyi
Shehu ekong omeruo echeijile
Ndidi onazi
Etebo
Musa iheanacho iwobi
That is d team I feel rohr will play against sa..barring any last hiccups

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbouck(m): 8:39am On Jun 03, 2017
but why can't Rohr try 3-4-3 formation cos 4-3-3 looks old
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:40am On Jun 03, 2017
eterisan:

Sorry for quoting you! But you really gonna play a 19 year old in front of wat..like 40000 screaming fans in a crucial qualifier with only just one international cap n still learning the rudiments of the game over one with experience from youth sides to national team n lots of cap in club football? Not for me..lolz...except he is a nesta or maldini or ramos..or is he? We are not rohr tho..so we have to wait nd see

Awaziem played a full season with Porto the season before last. He is used to big stadiums. The only reason, he played more for Porto B this year was the injury crisis in defense faced by Porto B. He will be fine if drafted to play.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:46am On Jun 03, 2017
eterisan:
And for those thinking omeruo will play right back..I can only but smile...please look at the list again we got only 3 central defenders there..shehu has d rb spot on lock down..ebuehi as back up..only d goalkeeper spot m not sure off but I guess we have
Akpeyi
Shehu ekong omeruo echeijile
Ndidi onazi
Etebo
Musa iheanacho iwobi
That is d team I feel rohr will play against sa..barring any last hiccups

Shehu and Musa will be fasting, that might reduce the number of minutes the coach will give them. I do not expect either to start.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:00am On Jun 03, 2017
eterisan:
And for those thinking omeruo will play right back..I can only but smile...please look at the list again we got only 3 central defenders there..shehu has d rb spot on lock down..ebuehi as back up..only d goalkeeper spot m not sure off but I guess we have
Akpeyi
Shehu ekong omeruo echeijile
Ndidi onazi
Etebo
Musa iheanacho iwobi
That is d team I feel rohr will play against sa..barring any last hiccups
NICE LINE-UP you've got there
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:00am On Jun 03, 2017
tbaba1234:


Shehu and Musa will be fasting, that might reduce the number of minutes the coach will give them. I do not expect either to start.

ebuehi can start don't really see the boy as one who has a problem playing in front of crowd ..he play week in week out in the dutch league even against team like ajax....
so what's there...even the south Africans have light skin players in their squad too.
the boy will really have no problem..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:02am On Jun 03, 2017
tbaba1234:


Shehu and Musa will be fasting, that might reduce the number of minutes the coach will give them. I do not expect either to start.

they can start and subed in the second half. Between 60-65 mins.

*MODIFIED*
But If rohr feels the fasting will affect their play. He can decide to star t Kayode ahead of Musa and therefore playing Nacho behind him. Which I'll love to see.

Something like this.
**Iwobi-Iheanacho-Etebo**
**Kayode**

But for Shehu, he seems to be a sure starter cos Ebuehi will be a big gamble if thrown into the fray from the blast of the whistle or better still Rohr playing ndidi there out of position which I don't see happening in the absence of J. Mikel.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:05am On Jun 03, 2017
AIG07:
they can start and subed in the second half. Between 60-65 mins.

u talking as if you don't know
that the second half tends to be more intense and demanding
musa should be used as a sub...he is better that way
while Abdullahi shehu should also be drafted in depending on the tempo of the game
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:07am On Jun 03, 2017
Mitchell Paul who watched the Super Eagles of Nigeria against Togo in their 3-0 win have given his view on the ten Nigerian players who made their debut in the friendly game.
The French journalists who has been covering African football for close to two decades said the future of the Super Eagles is assured judging by the rate at which young players are been given a chance by coach Gernot Rohr.
A total of ten players made their debut in yesterday’s game which is officially recognised by FIFA unlike the game against Corsica, which has no bearing on the caps of a player as Corsica isn’t an affiliate of FIFA.
” Ten promising players made their debut for Nigeria yesterday, and I saw a glimpse of what the future looks like for Nigerian football. Very bright if you ask me. Rohr has gotten a near perfect match of young but widely experienced players in the team”, he told Owngoalnigeria.com.
” I was particularly impressed with the FC Porto defender Chidozie Awaziem who played in central defence alongside William Troost-Ekong. He was very confident on the ball and assured in duels. He is my top pick among the ten players who made their debut.
” Osimhen didn’t do badly after coming on, so too Mikel Agu, but Awaziem had a display to remember in defence for Nigeria. Porto have a real gem on their hands “.
Michael James

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:10am On Jun 03, 2017
AIG07:
they can start and subed in the second half. Between 60-65 mins.

In my opinion, that is a wastage of two subs and reduces the coach's flexibility to make tactical changes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:16am On Jun 03, 2017
tbaba1234:


In my opinion, that is a wastage of two subs and reduces the coach's flexibility to make tactical changes.
with Shehu(a defender) and Musa(a forward) coming out there is more than enough room for tactical changes depending on the coach's approach to the game...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by vickylincon(m): 9:30am On Jun 03, 2017
Joebie:
You will have to pay to be in my classroom if that's what you are asking.

But if you are trying to be sarcastic, pretend you never read the post. Somebody is learning cool

no o. am not being sarcastic bro. good job you are doing, just wanna learn more about it. But, I don't think giving me a picture is bad sir
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:31am On Jun 03, 2017
AIG07:
with Shehu(a defender) and Musa(a forward) coming out there is more than enough room for tactical changes depending on the coach's approach to the game...

You know subs are not just made based on position. It depends on several factors. Who is playing well, How do you change the approach etc.

You do not want to start with the decision of two known subs. It will be better to play Musa or Shehu in the last 30 minutes if needed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:39am On Jun 03, 2017
eterisan:
And for those thinking omeruo will play right back..I can only but smile...please look at the list again we got only 3 central defenders there..shehu has d rb spot on lock down..ebuehi as back up..only d goalkeeper spot m not sure off but I guess we have
Akpeyi
Shehu ekong omeruo echeijile
Ndidi onazi
Etebo
Musa iheanacho iwobi
That is d team I feel rohr will play against sa..barring any last hiccups

You sure know Rohr.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:40am On Jun 03, 2017
Revealed – The Face & Qualities Of Gent New Signing Rueben “Nigerian Dani Alves” Yem




Much have been said about Rueben Yem the recent Nigerian acquisition by Belgium side Gent from GBS Football Academy of Jos. An academy well known for unearthing talented Nigerian footballers.

From all that has been said none have revealed his identity something Owngoalnigeria.com sort to resolve by searching for his pictures and also reached out to some of his teammates about the qualities that made him stand out.





Gent snap up Yem alongside Anthony Ikedi after the duo distinguished themselves in a tournament watched by scouts of the Belgian side. Ikedi has been farmed out on a season long loan to Norwegian side FK Haugesund

Yem will however team up with Gent when they converge for Pre season training at the end of the month, which will bring to six the number of Nigerian players at the club.

Presently the club has five Nigerians in their team in Moses Simon, Rabiu Ibrahim, Anderson Esiti, Samuel Kalu and William Troost-Ekong , but overall they have six on their books with Peter Olayinka out on loan to Czech side Dukla Praha.

18 year old Yem is expected to swell the number of Nigerians at the club. The right full back in the mould of Brazilian defender Dani Alves who at 34 is still going strong for Juventus.


He can also play in the defensive midfield role, and information gathered by Owngoalnigeria.com has it that the club have already started work on his work permit ahead of his official presentation next month.


**Osas Mahawi

Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/06/03/revealed-the-face-qualities-of-gent-new-signing-rueben-nigerian-dani-alves-yem/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:40am On Jun 03, 2017
AIG07:
they can start and subed in the second half. Between 60-65 mins.

*MODIFIED*
But If rohr feels the fasting will affect their play. He can decide to star t Kayode ahead of Musa and therefore playing Nacho behind him. Which I'll love to see.

Something like this.
**Iwobi-Iheanacho-Etebo**
**Kayode**

But for Shehu, he seems to be a sure starter cos Ebuehi will be a big gamble if thrown into the fray from the blast of the whistle or better still Rohr playing ndidi there out of position which I don't see happening in the absence of J. Mikel.

Ebuehi or Awaziem will be fine.

Awaziem first game for Porto was against Benfica, one of the biggest games of the season and he had a Motm performance. He will be fine if started.

Ebuehi has played regularly this year in big stadiums. He will also be fine.

Once they get passed the early jitters, they will be OK.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:43am On Jun 03, 2017
tbaba1234:


Shehu and Musa will be fasting, that might reduce the number of minutes the coach will give them. I do not expect either to start.


Meaning Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Mali and Co will not honor their matches?

Was it not also the 'fasting' Musa that scored a brace against Togo?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:46am On Jun 03, 2017
My realistic starting line-up for South Africa.

. . . . . . . Akpeyi. . . .
Omeruo. . . . . Awaziem. . . . . Ekong. . . Elder
. . . . . Onazi. . . . . . Ndidi. . .
. . . . . . . . . . Etebor. . .
Musa/Simon. . . . Iheanacho. . . . Iwobi

.............
I see Omeruo starting at Rb. Rohr seems not to trust Shehu enough and he wouldn't want to make so many changes in the defence that played the last qualifiers.
I see just one change in Awaziem who is more or less a like for like replacement of Balogun. I read sometime ago in an interview Awaziem granted which he attested that Balogun have been a big influence on his game.

Etebor will likely play behind Iheanacho because he is more of a goal threat in such areas while Iwobi works from the flanks.

Impact subs could be Kayode Olarenwaju and Muzam. While Ogu subs in for to secure the match from the middle if we have a lead going into the last 10-5mins
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:50am On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Gernot Rohr deserves full praise for his intuition and vision he showed when it came to identifying future talents of the Super Eagles.

A clear example is Awaziem who Rohr invited earlier, had a look in and was tipped as a promising key player of the side. In recent games, the young man showed exceptional quality. Both in training and during games.

At this time, it is riskier banking on Omeruo in the name of experience instead of quality shown in training and recent games.

If Rohr gives Awaziem the nod, he has my full blessings. As the days goes by, I get impressed by the vision of the Super Eagles team manager.

I hope Alampasu keeps giving 100% in training. He might never know when the German tactician will give him a nod.

Awaziem never made match day squad each time Omeruo and Balogun were in camp.

What makes you feel Awaziem will out perform Omeruo in training?

If you say it is riskier fielding Omeruo then it is 'riskiest' fielding an Awaziem who has never been involved in any competitive international match.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:51am On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


Meaning Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Mali and Co will not honor their matches?

Was it not also the 'fasting' Musa that scored a brace against Togo?


It is not about them playing. It is whether they will go the full 90. Musa and Shehu was subbed early in the match against Togo. They were the first players subbed.

Some people can play well during the fast but it is not everyone. Hakeem Olajuwon used to have better stats during Ramadan.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 10:19am On Jun 03, 2017
tbaba1234:


Ebuehi or Awaziem will be fine.

Awaziem first game for Porto was against Benfica, one of the biggest games of the season and he had a Motm performance. He will be fine if started.

Ebuehi has played regularly this year in big stadiums. He will also be fine.

Once they get passed the early jitters, they will be OK.
For young players except you are a ronaldo or messi they don't get thrown into d fray just like that..defending is not all about talent, one has got to have that tactical understanding of the game to control the midfielders in front you and it comes with experience of not only playing but been with the team and *drills*...TheGoodJoe..permit me...remember the europa league final..experience trumped youth. The first goal pogba scored an experienced team wouldn't concede such space for him to get a free shot..Rohr may play them but I do know it is not a wise decision to start em..if they make mistakes then their nt team careers must have gotten to a bad. If nd when they have stayed with the team for sometime and you clamour for a start I may agree..
BTW do u really expect to start ebuehi n awaziem against cameroon for example..smiles....Sir Icons4s...Thanks ..for the mention
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 10:34am On Jun 03, 2017
tbaba1234:


Awaziem played a full season with Porto the season before last. He is used to big stadiums. The only reason, he played more for Porto B this year was the injury crisis in defense faced by Porto B. He will be fine if drafted to play.
If he was ready he would not be drafted back to team B..he was not ready..#fact..imagine drafting a young ramos or maldini back to team B..awaziem is not a ramos or maldini yet.. infact for the sake of our nt I pray he becomes. I am not against him..like I said earlier I would not be surprised if he starts but I just don't think he would..it is like saying you expect maroof yusuf to start ahead of echeijile..not gonna happen.. He just de come he go sedan watch senior boys abeg..na so we been de do m for street soccer that year for waffi..hope u get the sacarsm..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:38am On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


Awaziem never made match day squad each time Omeruo and Balogun were in camp.

What makes you feel Awaziem will out perform Omeruo in training?

If you say it is riskier fielding Omeruo then it is 'riskiest' fielding an Awaziem who has never been involved in any competitive international match.


So far, Awaziem stood out from the defenders. If Omeruo outperforms him in training, he has my full support. If he does not, then it is riskier fielding him. We must look to fielding the best. When Omeruo returned unfit against South Africa, we paid dearly for relying on his experience. Just as we paid for relying on Yobo's experience in the World Cup. In when Omeruo made his last error for the Super Eagles, experience was not there to help him.

Fielding the best player will always be the best solution. As for the young Ajax team, they overachieved. From a team flogged out of the Champions League to a team that gave Manchester United a run for their money.

I have seen numerous experience players make childish errors. Just like Drogba's childish defending in the Champions league finals against Bayern Munich. Lucky Robben missed the penalty. A highly experienced Deimeichelis made repeated Childish errors playing for City. Let me not go to Eguavoen.

We need the best in each role.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:42am On Jun 03, 2017
eterisan:

Sorry for quoting you! But you really gonna play a 19 year old in front of wat..like 40000 screaming fans in a crucial qualifier with only just one international cap n still learning the rudiments of the game over one with experience from youth sides to national team n lots of cap in club football? Not for me..lolz...except he is a nesta or maldini or ramos..or is he? We are not rohr tho..so we have to wait nd see

Players like Casillas, Pique, Busquets, Ferdinand, Thiago Silva, Marquinos have done it on the big stage in their teens. Why do you feel ours can not do it? Was Omeruo not young when he performed very well at the AFCON?

What makes you think Awaziem can not work his socks off to become among the greats in the game? Is it two heads Nesta and Maldini have? Thank God the likes of Kanu and Finidi did not think that way.

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