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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:31pm On Jun 03, 2017
Humility017:


yes ooo
I am not scared at all
wit nacho and iwobi spearheading the attack..
I am abit more relaxed...
I pray we get early goals

I hope Iwobi keeps his boots sharp. We need those brilliant passes that day and we need the forwards clinical.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:32pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I want the better keeper in goal and reports clearly stated Alampasu has been fairing better. My opinion has not changed.

You believe Alampasu would be the better or best choice against SA on June 10 2017?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:34pm On Jun 03, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Awaziem is not a tested defender.
I rather have an untested player in the midfield than throw in a green horn in the defense. Its very dangerous.
Assuming Onazi is in the camp would you start Agu ahead of him ?

I will have the best talent over the most tested untalented player. Why do you think Guardiola was confident throwing a bench warming Pique into the starting line-up of Barcelona?

If Onazi comes to camp and Agu brings more to the team during training, Agu will get my nod.

Football is dynamic. All players must be on their toes to maintain their place in the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:34pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Does Awaziem playing for Porto B erase the fact that he has done it on the big stage. My point is simple. Bring them to camp, screen and select the best players. The screening will determine the recent best players.

For now, Awaziem leads and gets my nod.

He has done it on the big stage. Is he doing it on the big stage now?

No be you dey hammer on 'recent'?

I get am before no be your property o.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:35pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


You believe Alampasu would be the better or best choice against SA on June 10 2017?

Let Ezenwa and Akpeyi do better than Alampasu in training. If they can not do better than him in training, there is no magic that can make them do better in live games.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:35pm On Jun 03, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Awaziem is not a tested defender.
I rather have an untested player in the midfield than throw in a green horn in the defense. Its very dangerous.
Assuming Onazi is in the camp would you start Agu ahead of him ?

Thank you my brother

More feathers to your cap.

He is even starting Agu and Awaziem at the same time. Double gamble!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:37pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Let Ezenwa and Akpeyi do better than Alampasu in training. If they can not do better than him in training, there is no magic that can make them do better in live games.

Training.

Chai!

I comment my reserve.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:37pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


He has done it on the big stage. Is he doing it on the big stage now?

No be you dey hammer on 'recent'?

I get am before no be your property o.

I have said it repeatedly. When it comes to picking starters, recent performance in camp is key. When it comes to assessing the potential of a player, you can use past games to highlight.

When we talk of Iheanacho's quality, we highlight his past performances. When it comes to selection, his current form is camp is key.

E nugo?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:39pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


Training.

Chai!

I comment my reserve.

Why do you think Rohr wants the players in camp early, do you think the German tactician is playing on those training pitches? It is serious business to find the best players for the coming games.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:39pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I will have the best talent over the most tested untalented player. Why do you think Guardiola was confident throwing a bench warming Pique into the starting line-up of Barcelona?

If Onazi comes to camp and Agu brings more to the team during training, Agu will get my nod.

Football is dynamic. All players must be on their toes to maintain their place in the team.

You always compare club selection with national team selection. See as I dey shake my head.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:41pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


You always compare club selection with national team selection. See as I dey shake my head.


National or club, it still ends with selection. It is a dynamic method of identifying the best in each role.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:41pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Why do you think Rohr wants the players in camp early, do you think the German tactician is playing on those training pitches? It is serious business to find the best players for the coming games.

So you make team selection strictly from the training camp?

I told you Months ago that Rohr knows at least 9 of the players that will start against SA.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:43pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


National or club, it still ends with selection. It is a dynamic method of identifying the best in each role.

TheGoodJoe calm down.

Just simply say ' I am tired of seeing some old faces like Onazi, Omeruo and Akpeyi. I want us to TEST newbies like Awaziem, Agu and Alampasu'.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:45pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


So you make team selection strictly from the training camp?

I told you Months ago that Rohr knows at least 9 of the players that will start against SA.

Those 9 are players Rohr can attest will standout in camp when he calls them. They are the best. Just like Ikeme or Mikel. They are the best and will stand out in camp. Iheanacho always does well in camp.

It is not a mystery that reports came of Awaziem performing well in camp and in the recent games, he pulled off good performances. If Awaziem continues with this momentum, he can become one of Rohr's trusted regulars.

They are not regulars by titles but consistent performances in camp. Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Ramos and Busquets were the best. That is why they were regulars. It is difficult to find people performing better than them in camp and games.

Just as it is hard taking a Nigerian striker to camp that will do better than Iheanacho or find a midfielder with more stamina than Etebo.

They must show these in camp to keep their places.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:46pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


TheGoodJoe calm down.

Just simply say ' I am tired of seeing some old faces like Onazi, Omeruo and Akpeyi. I want us to TEST newbies like Awaziem, Agu and Alampasu'.

I do not want newbies or oldies. I want besties.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by shogz89: 12:47pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


TheGoodJoe calm down.

Just simply say ' I am tired of seeing some old faces like Onazi, Omeruo and Akpeyi. I want us to TEST newbies like Awaziem, Agu and Alampasu'.
I don know the problem you guyz hve with onazi, all I know is onazi is good enough to play SA

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 12:53pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Arsenal Whizzkid Nwakali Expecting Super Eagles Coach Rohr To Ring Him Up




Arsenal wonderkid Kelechi Nwakali is dismayed over his snub by Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr, and is expecting the German to consider him when he names future national team rosters.

To call a spade a spade, the Nigeria U20 skipper might be shipped out on loan by the Gunners for a second consecutive season because he does not fulfill all the requirements to play in the Premier League.

The 3.5 million euros fee Arsenal paid to snap up the attacking midfielder and his yearly wages are inconsequential for him to be granted a work permit by the Home Office.

''Where we are having problems now is they have not invited Kelechi to the national team, we know how things work in Nigeria,'' Kelechi's adviser Allwell Nwakali told
allnigeriasoccer.com .

''He has been excellent for his team, playing well wherever he is. If they can call him up, the permit process will be so easy for us. I cannot influence his invitation.''

Last season, Leicester City and Watford managed to close the deals for Wilfred Ndidi and Isaac Success respectively despite not playing 75 percent of Super Eagles matches because the two Premier League teams forked out hefty sums plus wages for their services.


**Ifeanyi Emmanuel

Source: http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=23280
Is this a joke? Who will he displace?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:53pm On Jun 03, 2017
shogz89:
I don know the problem you guyz hve with onazi, all I know is onazi is good enough to play SA

cc: TheGoodJoe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:55pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Those 9 are players Rohr can attest will standout in camp when he calls them. They are the best. Just like Ikeme or Mikel. They are the best and will stand out in camp. Iheanacho always does well in camp.

It is not a mystery that reports came of Awaziem performing well in camp and in the recent games, he pulled off good performances. If Awaziem continues with this momentum, he can become one of Rohr's trusted regulars.

They are not regulars by titles but consistent performances in camp. Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Ramos and Busquets were the best. That is why they were regulars. It is difficult to find people performing better than them in camp and games.

Just as it is hard taking a Nigerian striker to camp that will do better than Iheanacho or find a midfielder with more stamina than Etebo.

They must show these in camp to keep their places.

I ask again what if Omeruo was in that France camp?

I hope you know that performance is relative.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:56pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I hope Iwobi keeps his boots sharp. We need those brilliant passes that day and we need the forwards clinical.
confidence tells a lot for that lad
I remember his two goals against awka united prior the Zambia tie...of which he later scored against Zambia, I just pray the MOTM and two assist he made against Togo instill more confidence in him
that's why I will want kayode or moses simon start ahead of musa to utilize those chances
musa can come in the second half to outrun the RSA defense...because musa that I know can miss simple chances to score when you least expect
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 12:57pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
__________________Alampasu
Shehu________Awaziem_______Ekong________Echiejile
________________Agu___________Ndidi
______________________Etebo
Musa___________________________________Iwobi
____________________Iheanacho

My preferred starting eleven.

correct line-up,
yours is the best and strongest pick,

I don't know y some of us here keep mentioning AKPEYI for a start,
we keep forgetting that its south Africa we are playing, they already k,ow his weakness wich am sure there coach is planning to exploit


hmmm I tink AKPEYI is a trouble waiting to happen, ROHR shud bench him against bafana,

further more I wud put OMEROU in and remove SHEHu the guy is fasting so is MUSA

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:01pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I have said it repeatedly. When it comes to picking starters, recent performance in camp is key. When it comes to assessing the potential of a player, you can use past games to highlight.

When we talk of Iheanacho's quality, we highlight his past performances. When it comes to selection, his current form is camp is key.

E nugo?

Hahaha TheGoodJoe.

Even before Roger opened any camp whether France or Abuja I believe he knew at least 9 of his would be starters.

Even the newly appointed SA coach by now would have known majority of his starters even without camping.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:02pm On Jun 03, 2017
do4luv14:


correct line-up,
yours is the best and strongest pick,

I don't know y some of us here keep mentioning AKPEYI for a start,
we keep forgetting that its south Africa we are playing, they already k,ow his weakness wich am sure there coach is planning to exploit


hmmm I tink AKPEYI is a trouble waiting to happen, ROHR shud bench him against bafana,

further more I wud put OMEROU in and remove SHEHu the guy is fasting so is MUSA

Very funny.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 1:04pm On Jun 03, 2017
do4luv14:


correct line-up,
yours is the best and strongest pick,

I don't know y some of us here keep mentioning AKPEYI for a start,
we keep forgetting that its south Africa we are playing, they already k,ow his weakness wich am sure there coach is planning to exploit


hmmm I tink AKPEYI is a trouble waiting to happen, ROHR shud bench him against bafana,

further more I wud put OMEROU in and remove SHEHu the guy is fasting so is MUSA

you nailed it regarding akpeyi
moreover.. some south Africans can be uncivilized.. his career might be on the line should Nigeria win the south Africans and him posing a 5 star performance. ...
from all I have been reading RSA are seriously preparing for these match... so akpeyi should sit on the bench...even at that all the goal keepers are even at the same level none exceptional amongst them

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:04pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


Hahaha TheGoodJoe.

Even before Roger opened any camp whether France or Abuja I believe he knew at least 9 of his would be starters.

Even the newly appointed SA coach by now would have known majority of his starters even without camping.

I hope and want the best as the starters. If your nine list are the best, I am happy with the list. If they are not, my support is with the better players to displace them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:07pm On Jun 03, 2017
Humility017:

confidence tells a lot for that lad
I remember his two goals against awka united prior the Zambia tie...of which he later scored against Zambia, I just pray the MOTM and two assist he made against Togo instill more confidence in him
that's why I will want kayode or moses simon start ahead of musa to utilize those chances
musa can come in the second half to outrun the RSA defense...because musa that I know can miss simple chances to score when you least expect

Nice enlightening information.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:09pm On Jun 03, 2017
komekn:


Players are not groomed they prove themselves on the battlefield of the football pitch and they are selected.

Mbappe, Lukaku, Rashford, Dele, Dembele, Tega, etc, etc were and or are teenagers who were selected because they DELIVERED OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE.

They were never groomed.
I wonder how a player can PROVE himself if not given an opportunity. Odey and Olatubosun have been given an opportunity. Seems they couldn't cut it(doesn't mean they should not be given another opportunity)

And yes players are groomed - the whole idea of training, drills and all is part of grooming. I hope you know that the great Ronaldo de Lima was taken along with the team to USA 94.

The fact that Rohr consistently invites this boy should put us in a let-me-sit-down-and-look position.
Who would you propose should have been invited in the place of Osimhen?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:14pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


Better replacement for each position?

As if you replace players as easily as you replace bed sheets on your bed.

You think if we have players better than Iheanacho, Moses, Iwobi, Ndidi, Mikel, Echiejile, Etebo, Balogun, Omeruo, Ekong any where in the world we will not field them?

You think the coaching crew are not interested in improving the standards of the team?

What do you think team building is all about?
You wake up and overhaul a whole team when you have crucial matches all because you are searching for better players?

As far as I am concerned I will give this current coaching crew Excellent in terms of scouting for players for the national team. We had crucial games against Zambia and Algeria that could not be toiled with. With the little time he had after his appointment he maximised the established potentials in the team and came out tops.

We organized a friendly against Senegal of which a couple of players had their debutes.

We organized a France camp and so many untested players were featured in the two friendlies.
I am sure from the 3 games we have played this year the coaching crew has assessed a lot of these players and know which ones are ready for the Super Eagles.

Forgiveness I dare you to mention any player or players playing in any league(s) in this Universe that are better than the ones Rohr is likely to start against South Africa.



Of course, there are better players but that is not my point. My point is centered on replacements or backups.


Remember, when Emmanuel Amunike and Daniel Amokachi (cant remember) were tactically removed by the Italians at the 1994 World cup, the team crumbled. When Taiwo and Sanni were removed at Japan/korea world cup the team also crumbled. When mikel got injured before the 2010 world cup the team pafuka. When Onazi was removed at the Brazil 2014 world cup France destroyed the team.

For this reason, I am clamouring for quality replacement or backups for each postions.

if Ekoog wound who go replace am? if Ndid wound who go replace am? if iwobi and Etebor wound at the same time in a competitive position who go replace them?

Abi you never witness where two key players got injured at the same time? You dont need to go far, just recall Japan/Korea and USA 1994.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 1:30pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


Because Omeruo was not called to France camp?

Again I saw your preferred line up and I just laughed. You are starting Agu ahead of Onazi. What if Onazi was also in that France camp?

You have just concluded that Agu will do the job better than Onazi without having Onazi too camp.
You did not give Onazi to prove himself dur




embarassed

Because Omeruo was not called to France camp?

Again I saw your preferred line up and I just laughed. You are starting Agu ahead of Onazi. What if Onazi was also in that France camp?

You have just concluded that Agu will do the job better than Onazi without having Onazi too in camp.
You did not give Onazi opportunity to prove himself during 'drills' so we can select the 'best'.

You just quickly chose Agu. Hahaha.




Very funny like a guy with a new side chick...forget say na old fire wood de catch pass...agu ahead of onazi..abeg I nor fit laugh...omeruo and onazi where not part of that France camp.. The GoodJoe wan drop them..kikikikikiki..ma laugh abeg..if it is so..we will never have a starting 11 na...everytime we play we use the latest shining new toy! No pun intended...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:33pm On Jun 03, 2017
Icon4s:


God bless you.

You understand.

why are you against Obafemi Martins and Ideye even taye taiwo nko? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:43pm On Jun 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Players like Casillas, Pique, Busquets, Ferdinand, Thiago Silva, Marquinos have done it on the big stage in their teens. Why do you feel ours can not do it? Was Omeruo not young when he performed very well at the AFCON?

What makes you think Awaziem can not work his socks off to become among the greats in the game? Is it two heads Nesta and Maldini have? Thank God the likes of Kanu and Finidi did not think that way.
The question I ask myself when I read this he- is not - yet- experienced -argument is: how does one get experience? Experience for me comes from watching others do it, training to do it and then doing it and a lot depends on the quality of the player. I remember how skinny Eto(he was still in his teens) was when he was destroying teams at Afcon 2000 and capped it by punishing us in the final.

Experience is good, very good and I want experienced players at key positions in the team but let those who have the quality be given opportunity to garner the golden fleece of experience.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 1:50pm On Jun 03, 2017
Humility017:


you nailed it regarding akpeyi
moreover.. some south Africans can be uncivilized.. his career might be on the line should Nigeria win the south Africans and him posing a 5 star performance. ...
from all I have been reading RSA are seriously preparing for these match... so akpeyi should sit on the bench...even at that all the goal keepers are even at the same level none exceptional amongst them
Ever heard of the word consistency? When ikeme was injured akpeyi started. He is our second choice..whether you agree or not..right now alampasu is even our 4th choice goalkeeper and barring a miracle I do not even see him in russia..u are here calling for him to start...common biscuit friendly he didn't start. He plays in the Portuguese 3rd division abi? He is no buffon if he was a bigger club would have picked him up..give the youth time..ease them in gently. Nacho is there now because ighalo n ideye forgot the route to goal..if they remembered nacho f9r they sedan bench..#fact...likewise at city..there is no way nacho will start ahead of aguero or Gabriel for the lone striker spot...Now did u hear gabriel..yes gabriel is the starting striker for brazil..brazil..he is a class above nacho..nd I am nachos super fan..he will need to go to a club where he is trusted enough to start and get minutes nd build...people seem to forget that even mbappe wasn't a starter at the beginning of last season. Germain was..and if monaco played a lone striker falcao will get the nod..so mbappe as a 3rd choice striker in a 2striker system had hope compared to nacho as 3rd striker in a lone striker system...now back to the omeruo debate..awaziem is 4th choice back..balogun has been keeping omeruo on the bench now he is injured..omeruo gets the nod...TheGoodJoe says he clamours for the recent and best..and picks awaziem as if omeruo has been standing still at his club while awaziem slugged it out at porto b.

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