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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 1:31pm On Jun 18, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Another lame excuse.

Sometimes, don't just criticize something for sake of criticism.
***Southern and northern Nigeria were 2 different colonial protectorates who were later merged together to become one. They were never envisioned to be one country but later became one. The histories n colonial policies of both protectorates were not the same and even after amalgamation (1914) to 1967, both protectorates which later became regions functioned completely independent of each other.

>>>>If northern Nigeria had gained her independence seperately, Hausa would have been the official language of the country cos it was promoted as a lingua franca just as swahili and it worked. Today, hausa can compete with swahili in number of speakers as about 150 million people speak it as a 1st, 2nd or 3rd language.

Pidgin developed as the lingua franca of southern Nigeria and is now dominating the entire Nigeria today.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 1:34pm On Jun 18, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Lol.....Dude, Swahili like any other languages borrowed words from Arab and English. Your pidgin is simply corrupted English. Stop trying too hard.

Holly French, Italian, Spanish, Portugues and others were once pidgin latin (corrupted dialects of latin). Today, they are world languages, so what exactly is your point?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 1:37pm On Jun 18, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Swahili is the youngest language on the African continent yet the most widely spoken African language. It's not about age dear. Even English is the youngest language in Europe.

Is swahili younger than Lingala?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 1:40pm On Jun 18, 2017
fanficgirl:

Schools stuff going back and forth cheesy. Why do you say the Ethiopian clothes are too simple? I love them cheesy

They really do not look so fascinating n sophisticated like the Nigerian ones. lol
although, they look just like the Nigerian ankara wears.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:51pm On Jun 18, 2017
Muafrika2:

Those bleachers can't hold a candle to this Rich Kenyan beauty cool cool








thanks to the photoshop that made her skin glow
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jun 18, 2017
genieluv:


Holly, claiming Nigerian women have box-shaped bodies is the most absurd claim i have ever heard.

***Meet random everyday Nigerian women
No offense, but why you mostly post light skinned Nigerians? Aren't dark skinned Nigerians beautiful?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:55pm On Jun 18, 2017
genieluv:


They really do not look so fascinating n sophisticated like the Nigerian ones. lol
although, they look just like the Nigerian ankara wears.
lol, it may be you but they look fascinating and unique.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:00pm On Jun 18, 2017
obaaderemi:
I didn't even know Ethiopian economy has overtaken Kenya's.That must be a recent thing.That country is very arid and what other brands do you have besides kQ?
Ethiopia isn't very arid like you said. Half of Ethiopia is highland and 70% of all Africa mountains are found in Ethiopia. 30% of Ethiopia land can be used for agricultural.

Ethiopia together with Tanzania has the most fertile land in all of East Africa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 2:03pm On Jun 18, 2017
ednited:


all look amazzzzinnng!!! Especially the second one grin

Yeah, Frederick Leonard. He is a very handsome n hot guy cheesy. He's still an upcoming actor buh getting more famous. Here are more of him smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 2:07pm On Jun 18, 2017
Hati13:

No offense, but why you mostly post light skinned Nigerians? Aren't dark skinned Nigerians beautiful?

That's not true. The post you quoted (the first and 2nd pics) where those of dark skinned women.

What is your definition of light skinned women?
Do you define these women as light skinned women?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:07pm On Jun 18, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


thanks to the photoshop that made her skin glow

Hater
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:17pm On Jun 18, 2017
ArtanK:


I've got close family from Somaliland and they've repeatedly said that a proper reconciliation between all parties is enough for them to abandon their quest for secession. All it takes is the right approach and this current regime looks like it will kick-start the initiative.

Even if the talks reveal that they're adamant and won't budge on seceding from Somalia, it would be nice to see another stable Somali country in the horn, aside from Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya.

Okay. Some kenyans here say Ethiopia will likely annex Somaliland. How true is that?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:23pm On Jun 18, 2017
ArtanK:


I would love to learn Swahili for personal gains, but only after learning Amharic fully. I already speak Somali, Arabic, German, French and English. Speaking these languages has helped me enormously, especially in my organisation where it has enabled me to communicate and deal with a wide range of people. Adding Amharic and Swahili to it would be the icing on the cake. I'm already in the process of learning basic Amharic as I'm in Ethiopia a lot.

Believe it or not, Ethiopia is actually our biggest business partner and will continue to be so. While we have the ports and oil, they have the raw materials and a robust agricultural system. Anyone who says that Swahili would benefit Somalis more than Amharic or even Arabic while we're at it, is basically lying to themselves and to you.

I believe you. You are correct. Kenyans here are just being liars.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:29pm On Jun 18, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Wrong on both counts. English was and is a very complex language that has undergone immense grammatical mutation from French, Danish,Old Norse and Latin . Words for personal pronouns like them, theirs are from Danish and common conjugation vary very much from the original language of the tribes that invaded England.This is why English is so difficult to master, there is no general trends, you just have to master it as you go. Its grammar is incredibly difficult and the verb conjugation is crazy. Kiswahili in its structure and syntax is Bantu. And it's been standardized and has few deviations from the established nirm in forming verb forms .Period. It has a lot of borrowed words esp those pertaining to religion and objects not found in Africa.

The native tribes who wandered into the East African coast during the migration periods were a group whose languages were so closely related they had no difficulty understanding each other. In fact they had begun a process of banding together to form a larger group and began to call themselves waNgozi and their language kiNgozi. As a mater of fact, the more old school folks among native waSwahili call the language kiNgozi. Some others preferred to band together under a different banner and called themselves the MijiKenda. In fact the mijikenda dialects are so close to kiswahili, most foreigners can't tell them apart. The middle east traders who came had to adapt and spoke kiNgozi. They brought new words and ideas(Islam).

Before the middle eastern traders landed on the shores of East Africa the people they found were itinerant and in the process of ethnogenesis. They just jumped into the mix. As time went on their trade caravans spread throughout the East African interior and since Swahili traders were the main source of foreign goods, many interior peoples interracted with them in their language. That's how Swahili grew, as a language of trade, much like Malay was the language of trade in the East Indies. Long before the colonial era.
Fact check.

I understand you very well, but why the change from the name Ngozi to Swahili?

Can you also agree with me, that if not for the arrival of the middle-easterners, the swahili language wouldn't have spread across east africa?

You are really trying so hard to downplay the great influence of the arabs & persians on swahili evolution which is wrong.
Swahili cultures and peoples as we see today are far more middle-eastern in outlook and composition than they are Bantu. Or would you deny this?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:36pm On Jun 18, 2017
Muafrika2:

Those bleachers can't hold a candle to this Rich Kenyan beauty cool cool








Can you Kenyans and Lupitia handle the first black miss world?
However you want to classify beauty, tall, dark, fair, curvy or whatever, Nigerians are always ahead of you and most other Africans.
Now, this is the true definition and epitome of dark beauty.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 2:36pm On Jun 18, 2017
Nowenuse:


I understand you very well, but why the change from the name Ngozi to Swahili?

Can you also agree with me, that if not for the arrival of the middle-easterners, the swahili language wouldn't have spread across east africa?

You are really trying so hard to downplay the great influence of the arabs & persians on swahili evolution which is wrong.
Swahili cultures and peoples as we see today are far more middle-eastern in outlook and composition than they are Bantu. Or would you deny this?
They are part of Kenya. So eff it
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:42pm On Jun 18, 2017
sHOTdownHawk:

Political and geographic terminology plays a role. For example middle east start from morocco to iran. So its a political defination.Same applies for East and Eastern Africa. Ethiopia is not East Africa.
Ethiopia is East African country. It's a fact.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jun 18, 2017
genieluv:


That's not true. The post you quoted (the first and 2nd pics) where those of dark skinned women.

What is your definition of light skinned women?
Do you define these women as light skinned women?
lol, light skinned means lighter than black. The girl on the right is light skinned.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:53pm On Jun 18, 2017
Nowenuse:


Can you Kenyans and Lupitia handle the first black miss world?
However you want to classify beauty, tall, dark, fair, curvy or whatever, Nigerians are always ahead of you and most other Africans.
Now, this is the true definition and epitome of dark beauty.
She's nowhere near our lupita



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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:58pm On Jun 18, 2017
sHOTdownHawk:

Ethiopia with somalia Eritrea and Djibouti are culturally closer to each other. So they form the Horn of Africa which makes Eastern Africa.

Ethiopia is not East Africa. We are a Bantu majority
So, since Ethiopia and other Horners aren't predominantly Bantu they can't be considered East Africans? lol, don't create your own criteria. Ethiopians had inhabited east Africa for thousands of years. They have been here long before you guys came.

You are simply saying, we recent migrate are East African, but you guys who have been here longer than us aren't East Africans. lol, you are very funny.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jun 18, 2017
Muafrika2:

She's nowhere near our lupita



She is beautiful.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jun 18, 2017
Hati13:

She is beautiful.
Indeed smiley smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:01pm On Jun 18, 2017
Nowenuse:


Can you Kenyans and Lupitia handle the first black miss world?
However you want to classify beauty, tall, dark, fair, curvy or whatever, Nigerians are always ahead of you and most other Africans.
Now, this is the true definition and epitome of dark beauty.
She is beautiful, but Lupitia is also beautiful.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:04pm On Jun 18, 2017
Muafrika2:

Indeed smiley smiley
If I ask, don't you consider us as your fellow East African?
I ask because, there are some who don't consider us judging by their comments.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:05pm On Jun 18, 2017
Muafrika2:

She's nowhere near our lupita



You are getting blind.See a doctor(friendly advice).
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:07pm On Jun 18, 2017
mtis:

it doesn't matter whether ya East African or not...Tanzania is East African but part of Southern African Development Community (SADC) ..so Hati13 Ethiopia can join EAC any time you want
smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:08pm On Jun 18, 2017
Hati13:

If I ask, don't you consider us as your fellow East African?
I ask because, there are some who don't consider us judging by their comments.
I think its a reference to the East African Federation as opposed to geographical area. But as far as geograsphy, what else can you be apart from East African?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:27pm On Jun 18, 2017
Muafrika2:

I think its a reference to the East African Federation as opposed to geographical area. But as far as geograsphy, what else can you be apart from East African?
No one! That was what I'm trying to tell for those who say otherwise.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 3:30pm On Jun 18, 2017
obaaderemi:
I didn't even know Ethiopian economy has overtaken Kenya's.That must be a recent thing.That country is very arid and what other brands do you have besides kQ?
You can be a good sport and go through this thread and discover kenyan brands with major regional presence. Also, i see you know very little about the geography of Africa. Hati13 will give you a brief description and maybe photos of how ethiopia looks like. Ayam tired of this thread ooo
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:34pm On Jun 18, 2017
MtuMsuper:

You can be a good sport and go through this thread and discover kenyan brands with major regional presence. Also, i see you know very little about the geography of Africa. Hati13 will give you a brief description and maybe photos of how ethiopia looks like. Ayam tired of this thread ooo
The thread has lived its full life already!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 3:36pm On Jun 18, 2017
Nowenuse:


I understand you very well, but why the change from the name Ngozi to Swahili?

Can you also agree with me, that if not for the arrival of the middle-easterners, the swahili language wouldn't have spread across east africa?

You are really trying so hard to downplay the great influence of the arabs & persians on swahili evolution which is wrong.
Swahili cultures and peoples as we see today are far more middle-eastern in outlook and composition than they are Bantu. Or would you deny this?
Your approach is very minimalist and quite frankly condescending. Have you ever socialized with a kenyan from that part for you to make that conclusion? What is your source? K24 TV, google or nairaland comments?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:00pm On Jun 18, 2017
MtuMsuper:

You can be a good sport and go through this thread and discover kenyan brands with major regional presence. Also, i see you know very little about the geography of Africa. Hati13 will give you a brief description and maybe photos of how ethiopia looks like. Ayam tired of this thread ooo
Thanks Brother.

@obaaderemi, does this look arid to you? The answer is, of course NO.

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