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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 6:09pm On Jun 25, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Thanks. Are you from the South? You cannot be northerner. The northerners here seem to be fixated on clothes as the only sign of culture, even prompting me to wonder whether they consider themselves more cultural than the Khoisan. Basically if I got you right, every country has a culture, and in most cases the cultures overlap between traditional and modernity. We are not any less cultural than Nigerians, only that admittedly, Kenyans tend to leave behind things they find unnecessary for modern ones. And not all, some tribes are very resistant to modernisation and you gotta give them time. You fascinated me with the Kirdi region, seems there some badass people living there and I appreciate them for resisting nonsense Jihad. Were there instances of forceful conversion in Nigeria especially by Muslims?
Yes, culture is not about clothing. Clothing is just one aspect of culture.
Yes, the Kirdi region is fascinating. It has perhaps maybe around one hundred ethnic groups in the area between NE Nigeria and Northern Cameroon. During the Fulani Jihad, the ethnic groups fled from the valley to the mountains. They are so diverse that you can spot like 10 ethnic groups in an area that is only 10 km squared. There was this story about one particular ethnic groups that fled to the mountains during the Jihad. They left the fertile lands in the valley to settle on the less fertile in the mountains. The geography of the area is in itself unique with plains dotted by rocky terrains, volcanic plugs or inselberg mountains. The area is very notable for it's diverse architectural styles. Some of the ethnic groups use stones in constructure due to its rocky terrains. This is contrast to many parts of Nigeria where adobe style or wooden styles are found. There is an archaeological site known as Sukur located in the area in Madagali LGA, Adamawa state. It's recognized as a UNESCO World heritage site.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 6:09pm On Jun 25, 2017
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:13pm On Jun 25, 2017
jln115:

-So do the bushmen, it not the 1800 anymore
-You'll miss
-Butchers slaughter Millions and millions of cattle every year, hunters barley kill a total of 50 000 animals a year in South Africa.....
SO tell me who are the Sycophants?

- How advanced are the amenities for the bushmen? They live in the desert.
- You are pretty big, I wouldnt.
- The people doing it as a sport.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:22pm On Jun 25, 2017
genieluv:


Hmm, achievements of our ancestors kingdoms. Hmm, what can i really say here.

Holly most of our Kingdom cities were burnt to the ground by war. Benin kingdom city was burnt to the ground by the British who were so shocked to see that black africans could be this civilized, cos, of course, they always wanted to justify their reasons for colonizing africans claiming africans were all savages.
After burning benin down, they looted the most precious artefacts to London museums (where they are kept till date).

****Kanem-Bornu empire capital city (Ngazargamu) which was centuries old with city walls n some great architecture was also burnt to the ground too, but by the fulani jihadists around the early 19th century.

>>>>The continous wars, invasions n relocation of empire/kingdom capitals among other Nigerian kingdoms n also the british led to complete loss of most of the ancient architectures of Nigerian kingdoms.
For example, Kwararafa kingdom (which i descended from) conquered n enslaved the people of Igala kingdom n also destroyed their capital. Later on, we the Kwararafans were also displaced by the fulani jihadists (buh never fully conquered).

To know best about the achievements of Nigerian kingdoms. Try to study about
**The Bini empire
** The Oyo empire
** Kanem-Bornu empire
** Igala kingdom
** Kwararafa confederacy
** Nri kingdom
** Sokoto sultanate
** Borgu n Nupe kingdoms

Then for other West african Kingdoms

** Mali empire (you already know right?)
** Ghana empire (Ghana)
** Songhai empire (Mali/Burkina faso)
** Ashanti kingdom (Ghana)

Some others i might be forgetting now probably. 9jakool, nowenuse et al you can probably help me out
Thanks!
I have acquired some basic history of Nigeria and I will search online for it. I know little bit of the other west Africa civilizations. Will search for it too.

Is your people and Fulani have bad relationships, because your ancestor Kwararafa kingdom had been partially conquered and destroyed by Fulani jihadist?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BroadNarrative: 6:26pm On Jun 25, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:28pm On Jun 25, 2017
genieluv:


Well northern nigeria is very big, the core-northern parts are overwhemingly muslim while the central northern parts are like a 50/50 or slighlty christian dominated.

***** Would i really say northerners r relatively lighter than the southerners?
Well, among the poorer people, i would say northerners r darker cos the heat of the sun is more extreme in the north n the humidity is lower. So, poorer northerners who are mostly farmers n till the ground day n night under this scorching sun tend to be darker.

However, among the educated rich n middleclass population, i'd say northerners tend to be lighter (especially the women), cos due to the conservative nature of northerners, the women do not really hussle or work hard unlike most southern women who work harder n equally provide for their families almost as much as their men.
So, rich northern women are mostly pampered n always stay indoors, n when they manage to come outside, you see them looking like this.
Great explanation!
Beautiful people. I'm confident they are Fulanis.

Question - why came Fulanis speak Niger-Congo super family language when they are recent migrants to that region?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:29pm On Jun 25, 2017
TayserMahiri:


- How advanced are the amenities for the bushmen? They live in the desert.
- You are pretty big, I wouldnt.
- The people doing it as a sport.
- the handful trying to retain their traditions live in small towns in the Kalahari and are employed for example by the Kgalagadi park and Kalahari nature reserve so they get paid money to, and have all the amenities you and i have. The rest have moved to larger towns and cities, and do normal jobs!

- I'm big yes, but who will load the gun for you, since you have no idea how a rifle works?

- What's the difference between a hunter shooting a animal then selling the meat to a butcher that slaughters the animal and sells the meat?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:31pm On Jun 25, 2017
genieluv:
@Hati13, however, that doesn't mean that there are no dark skinned rich northern women, no, they abound!
N here are they
Understood.
They look beautiful and I'm confident you are on the corner. wink

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jun 25, 2017
Azuri Peninsula update, still on course,
Nigeria don't make noise

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:47pm On Jun 25, 2017
genieluv:


Hmm, achievements of our ancestors kingdoms. Hmm, what can i really say here.

Holly most of our Kingdom cities were burnt to the ground by war. Benin kingdom city was burnt to the ground by the British who were so shocked to see that black africans could be this civilized, cos, of course, they always wanted to justify their reasons for colonizing africans claiming africans were all savages.
After burning benin down, they looted the most precious artefacts to London museums (where they are kept till date).

****Kanem-Bornu empire capital city (Ngazargamu) which was centuries old with city walls n some great architecture was also burnt to the ground too, but by the fulani jihadists around the early 19th century.

>>>>The continous wars, invasions n relocation of empire/kingdom capitals among other Nigerian kingdoms n also the british led to complete loss of most of the ancient architectures of Nigerian kingdoms.
For example, Kwararafa kingdom (which i descended from) conquered n enslaved the people of Igala kingdom n also destroyed their capital. Later on, we the Kwararafans were also displaced by the fulani jihadists (buh never fully conquered).

To know best about the achievements of Nigerian kingdoms. Try to study about
**The Bini empire
** The Oyo empire
** Kanem-Bornu empire
** Igala kingdom
** Kwararafa confederacy
** Nri kingdom
** Sokoto sultanate
** Borgu n Nupe kingdoms

Then for other West african Kingdoms

** Mali empire (you already know right?)
** Ghana empire (Ghana)
** Songhai empire (Mali/Burkina faso)
** Ashanti kingdom (Ghana)

Some others i might be forgetting now probably. 9jakool, nowenuse et al you can probably help me out

genie, i think you should tell Hati13 to also add

- Khaso kingdom (Senegal)
- Bamana empire (Mali)
- Kenedougou kingdom (Mali)
- Dahomey Kingdom (Benin republic).

We, west africans have a very rich history and probably more Kingdoms and empires than East africa had. A large part of our history wasn't just preserved and told to the outside world. It's unfortunate. Even we ourselves do not learn our own histories.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jun 25, 2017
Total twin residential on course, Nigeria don't make noise

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jun 25, 2017
kikuyu1:


Ok,mtis lets agree to disagree,no biggie. Jln115,when I'm in your parts ,I'll come with an old .303 mk 4 and we'll look for kudu and eland and have a braai! That's how God intended steaks to be-thick, juicy, as rare as possible!We can give my fellow Kenyans smth more to their taste!
Back to our scheduled programming! Freshest4live,run! I'm coming with even more truth for your narrow arse!

Man its not that hunting is bad but unnecessary killing of animals not the right thing..am not saying animals are of same level as humans but God gave us wisdom on how to manage stuff..an last can we use AK47 to hunt grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:51pm On Jun 25, 2017
Eko energy estates on course, Nigeria don't make noise

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:52pm On Jun 25, 2017
Kingsway tower on course, Nigeria don't make noise

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jun 25, 2017
jln115:

Did i mention anything about my education in my previous post?? besides it was entirely relevant to the subject, secondly i dont pull numbers out of my pants........those numbers are fact: http://www.africanskyhunting.co.za/articles/hunting-and-conservation.html
Have looked at the numbers an ....I Still feel we got more total count than you guys..problem ours keep on moving around grin they are in Tanzania one time the next time they are relaxing in Kenya plains..but got tell the number is massive
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:57pm On Jun 25, 2017
Kenyanstar:
KENYA SUBURBS
Awesome bro
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:59pm On Jun 25, 2017
9jakool:

Yes, culture is not about clothing. Clothing is just one aspect of culture.
Yes, the Kirdi region is fascinating. It has perhaps maybe around one hundred ethnic groups in the area between NE Nigeria and Northern Cameroon. During the Fulani Jihad, the ethnic groups fled from the valley to the mountains. They are so diverse that you can spot like 10 ethnic groups in an area that is only 10 km squared. There was this story about one particular ethnic groups that fled to the mountains during the Jihad. They left the fertile lands in the valley to settle on the less fertile in the mountains. The geography of the area is in itself unique with plains dotted by rocky terrains, volcanic plugs or inselberg mountains. The area is very notable for it's diverse architectural styles. Some of the ethnic groups use stones in constructure due to its rocky terrains. This is contrast to many parts of Nigeria where adobe style or wooden styles are found. There is an archaeological site known as Sukur located in the area in Madagali LGA, Adamawa state. It's recognized as a UNESCO World heritage site.

Very informative,I just checked the Sukur area and it seems it was a great culture at one time. Impressive works and there seems to have been a wall? Did the BH set up base there at any time? Terrorists tend to destroy such the name UNESCO is enough to trigger them and I read the tourist attraction site had been hit by the terrorism
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:02pm On Jun 25, 2017
TayserMahiri:


F u Christians !
Dude ya wakeup in the wrong side of the bed today..where is Muafrica.more prayers please grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:03pm On Jun 25, 2017
9jakool:

Yes, culture is not about clothing. Clothing is just one aspect of culture.
Yes, the Kirdi region is fascinating. It has perhaps maybe around one hundred ethnic groups in the area between NE Nigeria and Northern Cameroon. During the Fulani Jihad, the ethnic groups fled from the valley to the mountains. They are so diverse that you can spot like 10 ethnic groups in an area that is only 10 km squared. There was this story about one particular ethnic groups that fled to the mountains during the Jihad. They left the fertile lands in the valley to settle on the less fertile in the mountains. The geography of the area is in itself unique with plains dotted by rocky terrains, volcanic plugs or inselberg mountains. The area is very notable for it's diverse architectural styles. Some of the ethnic groups use stones in constructure due to its rocky terrains. This is contrast to many parts of Nigeria where adobe style or wooden styles are found. There is an archaeological site known as Sukur located in the area in Madagali LGA, Adamawa state. It's recognized as a UNESCO World heritage site.

The ethnic group that fled to the highland you are talking of should probably be the Higgis (of Michika LGA, Adamawa state).
Well, much of northern adamawa are mountaneous, so, many tribes there live on mountains.

I think you are wrong if you say Kirdi zone has up to a 100 tribes, cos the people adressed as Kirdi are mostly Cameroonian tribes and not Nigerian tribes and they can't be up to 100 unless you are probably adding up Nigerian Adamawa, Southern Borno and probably Taraba tribes

Here is a definition for it below

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirdi

Among all the tribes listed there, none of them are found in North-east Nigeria except part of the Fali & Batta (who are also found in Cameroon).

You can confidently say North-east Nigeria has over 100 tribes but not Kirdi zone. You may be misinforming TayserMahiri, thanks.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:04pm On Jun 25, 2017
Kenyanstar:
KENYA TIMELESS
Feels like Europa grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jun 25, 2017
jln115:

- the handful trying to retain their traditions live in small towns in the Kalahari and are employed for example by the Kgalagadi park and Kalahari nature reserve so they get paid money to, and have all the amenities you and i have. The rest have moved to larger towns and cities, and do normal jobs!

- I'm big yes, but who will load the gun for you, since you have no idea how a rifle works?

- What's the difference between a hunter shooting a animal then selling the meat to a butcher that slaughters the animal and sells the meat?

- Good to know
- Who told you I have no idea how a rifle works?
- Lets leave this topic, its one of those where no one can win. There is a big difference in that for the hunter, the thrill is in the animal dying, not the meat. I know here is where you will deny, the only time you would confess is if I was a hunter like you and we are discussing it amongst ourselves.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:06pm On Jun 25, 2017
arinzeejikonye:
Lagos still bigger than nairobi

Can you believe this is africa
Nice one bro but at least we have lights today grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jun 25, 2017
mtis:

Dude ya wakeup in the wrong side of the bed today..where is Muafrica.more prayers please grin grin

Nuh dude. I think he woke on the wrong side. He told me he thanks God every time he kills an animal and its Sunday
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:11pm On Jun 25, 2017
kikuyu1:


Haiyya! I left this for you and mtis. Don't forget vinegar! Eland steaks are strictly for me and jln115.
Kikuyu serious am not a vegan..I love nyamu chom an a cold one if ya know what I mean grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:13pm On Jun 25, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Ugandan women want kenyan men. Nowenuse cheesy

UGANDAN SCHOLAR SEEKING KENYAN ‘LOVER BOY’ TO MARRY HER

"Is Kenya adopting human beings from other countries? I should have adopted Kenyanness when my family lived there as refugees in the 1980s. Right now, I am dying of admiration and envy for our Kenyan neighbours.
President Uhuru, his imperfections notwithstanding, has signed a law on free sanitary towels for school girls in Kenya. Somebody tell Uganda's Members of Parliament that sensible parliaments make sensible laws that they pass onto their presidents for signature. Somebody tell Museveni and his wife who is the Minister of Education that Kenya has a law on free sanitary pads for schoolgirls; not failed promises, lies about lack of money, and foolish excuses.
Where are those Kenyan men who were asking me to be their lover? I will say "Yes" to the first Kenyan man who promises to make me a Kenyan by marriage! Is the Kenyan president looking for a Ugandan side dish? If he is, I will be his lover!"


https://www.facebook.com/stella.nyanzi/posts/10155329976770053

http://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/ugandan-scholar-kenyan-lover-boy/


Hahaha cheesy ugly people admiring themselves, what difference does it make? I can't imagine 100 women looking like poorer versions of Kansime wanting me. Yuccck! tongue

I wanna sleep, wake me up when other Africans like the pretty Habesha women, Tanzanian women, Sudanese women, Cape verdean women or Nigerian women want Kenyan men. wink

Meanwhile, women from all over Africa and the world, wanting Nigerian men. cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:16pm On Jun 25, 2017
NairobiWalker:


There's a difference between the rate of population growth and absolute population numbers. The former is highest in poor environments while the later is completely historical.
There there tell him bro ..this guys like have a scary way of looking at figures
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:30pm On Jun 25, 2017
Nowenuse:


Hahaha cheesy ugly people admiring themselves, what difference does it make? I can't imagine 100 women looking like poorer versions of Kansime wanting me. Yuccck! tongue

I wanna sleep, wake me up when other Africans like the pretty Habesha women, Tanzanian women, Sudanese women, Cape verdean women or Nigerian women want Kenyan men. winkk

Meanwhile, women from all over Africa and the world, wanting Nigerian men. cool

An that's the reason guys think ya not smart..look Nowe Kenya is made of Bantus ,nilotes cushites Swahili Arabs Indians white an others..all those types of women can be found in Kenya apart from Nigeria women coz like serious how many Kenyans have you seen marrying naija babe...that's a question ya need to ask your self
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 7:53pm On Jun 25, 2017
Hati13:

ena mechme bihon endanchi belehe ena gobez lehon alechlem. kemer ewenaten ngn. anede ken alutawi comment ayechabesh alkeme. lezime mesegana yasefelgeshal. kezi hugna chineqelatsh beknowledge lefenda enedadarasem yetayegnale.


Thank you betam. Am happy to have you here in Nairaland. Thanks for joining me :-)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:55pm On Jun 25, 2017
No 4 bourdillon steadily
on course, Nigeria don't make noise

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:01pm On Jun 25, 2017
mtis:

Have looked at the numbers an ....I Still feel we got more total count than you guys..problem ours keep on moving around grin they are in Tanzania one time the next time they are relaxing in Kenya plains..but got tell the number is massive
You might feel you have but you don't, it's a well known fact that SA has by far the highest population of wildlife on the continent, followed by Nambia,Zimbabwe,Botswana and then Kenya.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 8:02pm On Jun 25, 2017
@nowenuse and @genieluv

I hope Hati13 have explained all what you've asked. Sorry, I haven't said anything on that cuz I got banned as usual.

@genieluv

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