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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:37pm On Jun 27, 2017
Lionessza:

I don't know hey? Like Jayceon said he talked about his experience in Zambia in one of the shows but don't know if he did a show there or was just there for pleasure. But one thing I've seen about SA artists , they tend to make a name from themselves in south Africa and get booked a lot in Europe and and America, for instance look at our old and new artists . The likes of Miriam makeba , lucky Dude, black mambazo, Jonny Clegg, Charlize Theron, Lera, black coffee to name a few . They all became known outside Africa before making names for themselves in Africa. I'm sure a few people know nothing about these people in this forum but they are recognized internationally. Black coffee was ordained as the world's best Dj and has a Grammy award to prove it but I've never heard of him playing in any african country. I don't know why this has been a trend for them but will investigate wink. But hopefully Trevor Noah will venture into other African countries coz a lot of people seem to like his humour.

Trevor is definitely followed in Africa. People like him here.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:38pm On Jun 27, 2017
TayserMahiri:


How fast? Edo Airways must be the best grin

no, Its Ethiopian airways, I believe its unconstitutional to fly edo airways truly. cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:41pm On Jun 27, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Your list is talking about GDP per capita, not the total number of middle class. Your brother boasted over having the largest middle class on the continent, I told him you also have the largest number of poor people.
and I told u its false......how do u determine the number of poor people in a country without per capita?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:42pm On Jun 27, 2017
freshest4live:

In my opinion Ethiopia is a potential African and world powerhouse.
But let there be peace, if any group must secede, they should secede peacefully. I understand your pain, cos Ethiopia is also a large country, faced with the problems common with such developing countries with large population, but the potential is there.
True! Ethiopia has that potential.

Do you know that if Atse Tewodros II full vision had been fulfilled, Ethiopia would have been on the same level as Japan by now.

Most of the things in Ethiopia is, "if it had been, if it had been, ....." undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 1:43pm On Jun 27, 2017
Hati13:

True! Ethiopia has that potential.

Do you know that if Atse Tewodros II full vision had been fulfilled, Ethiopia would have been on the same level as Japan by now.

Most of the things in Ethiopia is, "if it had been, if it had been, ....." undecided
Not just Ethiopia but Nigeria. If it had been.. If it had been.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jun 27, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Trevor is definitely followed in Africa. People like him here.
wenedem, who is very funny for you between Trevor vs Kevin Hart?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 1:46pm On Jun 27, 2017
AhluSunnah:
See this one.. olodo ni eleyi o. . you dont even know anything.. you no sabi anything about islam. . better visit voiceofthesalaf.com and get ur brain treated my guy




Ode... See dis didiringrin you tink say abi robot wey dem don programmed to dey perform specific function wit remote control.


U better visit any programmer mk him re-programme ur brain.

Besides, y can't just answer d simple question instead of behaving lyk ur brodas Isis ND boko haram?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jun 27, 2017
Hati13:

wenedem, it's very beautiful wink
I don't think no other African railway match it.
Is it giving proper services now or is it on the test preparation?

Don say that please. I know Moroccans have way better railways, but we gonna catch up wenedem! I think if they can get a new leader in Uganda all E.A would be a behemoth doing great things. The train is providing professional daily services. But you and Ednite dont provide us with Ethiopian development pictures and we know you guys are doing great thing sad cool Is the govt too much you can just snap a few pics on your free time tongue Currently, the rail is under construction from Nairobi towards western kenya on the Ugandan border.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:53pm On Jun 27, 2017
freshest4live:

Not just Ethiopia but Nigeria. If it had been.. If it had been.
We poor Africans cry

One funny Ethiopian comedian had told the truth that it's very easy to make East Africans cry than make them laugh. I truly believe in it and we all East Africans are the proof for it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 1:53pm On Jun 27, 2017
Africa’s Richest Man, Aliko Dangote over the weekend took a group made up of key media houses and MBA graduates from the Lagos Business School for a tour around his latest business venture, the largest single train petroleum refinery in the world with a production capacity of about 650,000 barrels per day, see images below.


The $12 billion Dangote Oil Refinery which is scheduled to open in 2019 will be 40 per cent larger than the current largest refinery which only has a capacity of 450, 000 barrels per day. The plant will also house Africa’s largest urea plant with a capacity of 3 million tons per annum as well as 1,100kms of sub sea pipeline infrastructure to handle 3 billion SCF of gas per day.


“We are bullish on Africa, the Dangote group is driving six major projects which will create about 250, 000 jobs and provide FX earnings and savings of $15 billion. This refinery will create 60,000 jobs with 20,000 of them onsite”, says Dangote.
Located in the Lekki Free Trade Zone, the site occupies about 2100 hectares of land, which is about six times the size of Victoria Island, Nigeria’s sprawling cosmopolitan town with the highest concentration of high net worth individuals in the country.


“We believe the best time to invest is during a downturn and it is our goal to diversify the Nigerian economy and as a result we have also increased our investment in agriculture and agro processing with projections of producing 1 million MT of milled and parboiled rice”, says Dangote.
The refinery will create its own power which will run on natural gas with a projected supply of 12, 000 MW of power which will be readily available for commercial use and also meet the demand for petrochemical products in Nigeria.


https://www.cnbcafrica.com/featured/2017/06/27/inside-billionaire-aliko-dangotes-12bn-dangote-oil-refinery/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:53pm On Jun 27, 2017
shervydman:


no, Its Ethiopian airways, I believe its unconstitutional to fly edo airways truly. cheesy

Its not unconstitutional
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:54pm On Jun 27, 2017
Hati13:

wenedem, who is very funny for you between Trevor vs Kevin Hart?

I'm not a big fan of Hart but he's funny. Can't choose between the two wenedem

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:55pm On Jun 27, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Its not unconstitutional
hmmmmn.......... sad sad
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:55pm On Jun 27, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Fidha254(m): 1:56pm On Jun 27, 2017
chkil0:


havnt found any other source for this stats you have shared , (despite the fact that forecast growing dont mean better city ) , for exemple a city who produce a coconut in 2016 and 2 coconut in 2017 have a 100% ratio growth ! when a city who produce 20 billions dollar in a year and 20,1 billions next year have a grow of 0,5 % .

in another hand their is these stats for forcast growth african cities

As opposed to your source 'oxford economics'? Euromonitor is the world leading independent market research org...

Growth is growth, growth is always good for people... One might not mean its better, but as far as its growing, it means its getting there ... I mean Miami has one of the most developed real estate yet in 2012 they still had among the highest growth together with tokyo and the rest, so just because one might be developed doesn't mean you stop growing, if you produce 20B then following year 20.2B that mean you dint employ all the people who graduated that year....

http://africanbusinessmagazine.com/uncategorised/kenya-property-values-among-the-best-in-the-world/

In other words, what am saying is, at one point, US citizens must have said the same thing about China's growth, that they had a low base (GDP-wise) so growth rate was higher, but right now they are starting to look back on their shoulders where China is
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:56pm On Jun 27, 2017
Hati13:
Bete Amhara movement

• Bete Amhara movement is a pan-Amhara organization formed in 2008 EC (2016 GC) to represent the interest of all Amharas. The organization is still young, but I hope it will get stronger and popular as times goes on in the near future.

• The organization is based abroad and will struggle to help the mass suffering Amharas in Ethiopia.

• It's objective is to renaissance Amharas glory and recreate a greater Bete Amhara in Ethiopia or Bete Amhara country.

I dont like ethnic movements angry
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:57pm On Jun 27, 2017
chkil0:
Life expectancy

ALgeria is too damn big in size
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jun 27, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Thought the topping was on education cheesy
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You know they are mostly ahead in such things grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:00pm On Jun 27, 2017
mtis:


All in Africa: The World’s 13 Highest-Mortality Countries.Even Somali is better than Nigeria

Its surprising Somalia could be doing that well. That data is suspect angry Maybe those UN guys feared venturing into the danger zones of Somalia to take samples and used Somaliland figures undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:01pm On Jun 27, 2017
shervydman:

hmmmmn.......... sad sad

Its legal and regulated is not so?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:01pm On Jun 27, 2017
Muafrika2:

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You know they are mostly ahead in such things grin

Specifically cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:02pm On Jun 27, 2017
BedLam:
Who told us he wanted to open a thread for travellers ?

Where's that ignorant Ghana boy? I'm coming to eat Banku this weekend.

You were to open
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:03pm On Jun 27, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Specifically cheesy
grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:03pm On Jun 27, 2017
BedLam:
This is a lie from the dungeon. These people that factor in these stats don't know there's​ a great rift in terms of human development between" Southern and Northern " Nigeria.

Life expectancy is relatively higher in the South compared to North. How do they put that together ?

You guys need some flogging. There is only one Nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:05pm On Jun 27, 2017
chkil0:


nigeria 52,75 years
somalia 55,36 years
kenya 61,58 years
Algeria ( the longuest in africa) 75,6 years

and i m algerian

How would you rate French influence on ALgeria? Your life expectancy is very commendable.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:05pm On Jun 27, 2017
mtis:


All in Africa: The World’s 13 Highest-Mortality Countries.Even Somali is better than Nigeria
I also suspect Somalia cooked this figures. A country whose only chance ofor immunisation, until recently was refugee camps undecided

Let's not even go to alshabab, a never ending war etc. Amazing they got their statistics from Daadab?

Or Nigeria is crazier than we thought shocked
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 2:06pm On Jun 27, 2017
Africa oh my Africa..


How Kenya could deal with its politics of ethnicity



In 1992 Kenya held its first multi-party election in 26 years. Since this re-introduction of
multipartism , the “ politics of tribe ” has been blamed for the country’s political tribulations.

This has led to a system under which leaders channel government resources to their ethnic supporters to ensure their political survival. In turn, their supporters begin to feel entitled to government resources.

The politics of ethnicity therefore becomes an inter-community competition, not merely for representation in governance, but for resources.
This isn’t a problem exclusive to Kenya. Studies show that many African countries are finding it difficult to manage diversity, and particularly ethnicity.
In other parts of the world such as Yugoslavia,
Burma , and Sri Lanka , ethnicity has been politicised and has consequently played a major role in triggering violence.

In Kenya, tribal politics has given rise to rampant corruption, marginalisation, disenfranchisement of entire communities, and
full-blown violence .

As the country goes into another general election this August, two questions are frequently being asked. Has anything changed since 2007 when violence broke out after a disputed election? And are there any real ideological differences between Kenya’s two main coalitions?

A stock take of the present ethnic reality shows that tribalism is more entrenched than ever. The two coalitions are a cluster of parties that represent regional ethnic blocs.

In fact they have split the country down the middle along a clear tribal fault line, with the populous Kikuyu and Kalenjin tribes on one side and the Luo, Luhya and Kamba on the other.

The history of ethnic loyalties
But why are there such bitter contests every election cycle? It has everything to do with the possibility of attaining control of state resources and being in charge of their allocation.

Kenya has been governed by four presidents from two ethnic communities since independence: the Kikuyu and the Kalenjin. The 40 other communities now believe that it’s their turn to hold the presidency.

Kenya is home to 42 ethnic groups. The major ones are the Kikuyu, Luhya, Kalenjin, Luo, and Kamba. Combined, they form 66% of the country’s population.

The behaviour of Kenyan voters has remained largely consistent over the past five multi-party elections. Regardless of where they reside,
ethnic allegiance has been the most influential motivator at the ballot.

This pattern of political allegiance based on ethnicity has a long history dating back to Kenya’s colonial past.

In Kenya’s first independent general election in May 1963, the two largest indigenous parties
KANU, formed in May 1960, and KADU, formed a month later, both assumed an ethnic DNA.

KANU represented the populous Kikuyu and Luo tribes and KADU represented the smaller Masai, Kalenjin, Luhya and Mijikenda communities.
This was partly because colonial policy barred the formation of nationwide political movements. It only allowed the formation of district political associations.

The effect was to encourage ethnically homogeneous political associations to emerge across the country. As a result, parties have drawn their political legitimacy and capital from their respective ethnic bases since independence.

At Lancaster House – where Kenyan delegates held a series of meetings to negotiate Kenya’s independence constitution – KANU and KADU leaders wore their ethnic hats.

And in 1966 when Vice President Jaramogi Oginga Odinga left KANU he retreated to his ethnic backyard and formed the Kenya People’s Union.
So historically speaking, political parties have never really been divorced from tribal affiliations.
But the problem runs much deeper than tribal politics. In Kenya an ethnically diverse society is responding to an imposed political configuration which, thanks to its colonial heritage , is a democratic competition for resources.

Fixing the problem

If we regard democracy as elastic rather than rigid, it allows us to recognise that it can be forced – or negotiated. Negotiated democracy can lead to stability whereas forced democracy can lead to instability and violence.

A case in point is Zimbabwe where a power-sharing deal was reached between Robert Mugabe’s Zimbabwe Africa National Union-Patriotic Front and Morgan Tsvangirai’s Movement for Democratic Change in 2008.

At the time, the deal brought the country’s political and economic crisis to an end. Other African examples of negotiated democracies include South Africa and Rwanda .

In Kenya, negotiated democracy can be reached by creating more executive positions beyond the president and deputy president to accommodate feuding tribes: mainly the Kikuyu, Kalenjin, Luo and Luhya.

Kenya has tried this model before, and it worked. The power sharing model put in place after the 2007 election quelled the post-election violence.
The new structure , guided by the peace accord , created three new executive positions – a prime minister, and two deputy prime ministers. This created a more ethnically inclusive leadership.

Constitutionally, a power-sharing agreement may not be as simple to effect as the 2008
National Accord and Reconciliation Act .

In that case, a simple Act of Parliament was passed to create the positions of a prime minister and his two deputies. Today the government would need to call a referendum to create substantive positions.

But that shouldn’t be a deterrent. Changes like this could lead to a realignment of political parties. If representatives of a majority of Kenya’s ethnic groups were guaranteed senior positions in government, politicians would gradually move away from ethnicity as a tool for political mobilisation, and towards ideological campaigns that prioritise socioeconomic development.


https://www.cnbcafrica.com/zdnl-mc/2017/06/26/kenya-elections-3/#comment-72
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:08pm On Jun 27, 2017
ednited:


Back then,
Ethiopian Airlines was flying to Nigeria. Even when there was Ebola. Many people opposed the Airlines but still everything went good

This was a very good move for Pan African brotherhood. You know West Africans have no national carrier They seriously needed someone to stand with them at their lowest moments cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:10pm On Jun 27, 2017
Muafrika2:

I also suspect Somalia cooked this figures. A country whose only chance ofor immunisation, until recently was refugee camps undecided

Let's not even go to alshabab, a never ending war etc. Amazing they got their statistics from Daadab?

Or Nigeria is crazier than we thought shocked

Seriously, those Somali figures though undecided Of course Nigeria has its own Somalia in the North so no biggie, They could match cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:13pm On Jun 27, 2017
ednited:


It's a great achivement that you guys controlled Ebola fast. But Nigeria need to work on the health section more. There is a huge difference between Ethiopia and Nigeria on this

Please Ednite, how will Nigeria work on health section when Buhari ran away to get better health in London?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:13pm On Jun 27, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Seriously, those Somali figures though undecided Of course Nigeria has its own Somalia in the North so no biggie, They could match cheesy
Or several Somalias?

That totally explains it grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 2:14pm On Jun 27, 2017
We running things.


FG, China to Finalise $11bn Lagos-Calabar Rail Deal in June.


The acting President, Yemi Osinbajo, on Tuesday said the federal government and the People’s Republic of China would round off negotiations on the Lagos-Calabar rail project estimated at $11.117 billion in June.

Osinbajo also disclosed that the federal government had already provided its portion for funding the rail project and promised that the negation would be concluded in the next three months.

He said this at the unveiling of Lagos-Ibadan rail project at the Nigerian Railway Corporation compound, Ebute-Metta, Tuesday, noting that the national rail project would create 500,000 jobs.
On behalf of the federal government, President Muhammadu Buhari had in June 2016 signed an agreement with the China Civil Engineering Construction Company (CCECC) for the construction of the Lagos-Calabar coastal railway line at $11.117 billion.

Under the agreement, the federal government was able to negotiate the price of the contract downwards by $800 million, stressing that although the contract was initially valued at $11.917 billion, it would now to cost $11.117 billion.
The first segment of the rail line comprises Calabar, Uyo, Aba and Port Harcourt. Other segments of the Lagos Calabar coastal rail line such as Otueke, Yenagoa, Ughelli, Warri, Sapele, Benin, Agbor, Asaba, Onitsha, Ijebu Ode, Lagos, would be ready also within another two years.

Osinbajo, however, unveiled the Lagos-Ibadan rail project alongside the state governor, Mr. Akinwunmi Ambode, his Oyo State counterpart, Senator Abiola Ajimobi, the Minister of Transportation, Mr. Rotimi Amaechi, Senate Chief Whip, Senator Olusola Adeyeye and Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, among others.

At the unveiling, the acting president disclosed that the federal government “has already provided our portion for funding for the Lagos-Calabar route as well. We expect that negotiations with the foreign component of the funding will be finalised within the next three months”.

He, therefore, assured Nigerians that a vibrant railway system “will confer many benefits on the society. Our ultimate goal is to restore a railway using culture for both commercial and personal transportation. We are confident that the national rail project will create up to 500,000 jobs. Aside, it will facilitate the movement of up to 3.2 million tonnes of cargo per annum.”

He explained that the ground breaking “reflects the federal government’s to build a globally competitive economy with first grade infrastructure. Railway, in our strategy, is underscored by our economic recovery and growth plan as well as incorporated 2016 and 2017 budgets”.

“We made provision for matching funds in 2016 budget to complement the concession loans obtained from the People Republic of China. The Chinese Government and Chinese Exim Bank have always proved to be a reliable partner to the Nigeria Government. We have the entire Lagos Kano rail track as well as the Lagos Calabar railway track in the 2017 budget, he added.”

Osinbajo disclosed that negotiation on the Kaduna –Kano portion of the track would soon be completed, noting that when completed the rail projects “will reduce the burden on national high ways. It will also reduce deterioration of the road network and increasing the life span of our roads”.

He explained that railway network would support efforts “to diversify the economy and enhance our export potentials. Several of our cities will become known as railway towns will boost economic activities within the railway lines that will eventually cut across the entire country”.

He, therefore, said the new approach to rail project development explained why the federal government “supports the replacement of the 1964 railway acts with a legal frame work that open railway projects in the country to greater private sector participation.

“We expect to ensure that the resources to manage efficient modern and reliable train services. We will see the same zeal in the project construction so that the railway lines we be completed on schedule. We are looking forward to a fast and efficient service between Lagos and Ibadan within the projected time frame which is on or before December 2018”.

Also speaking, Ambode commended the federal government for approving the right of way for the proposed Lagos Light Rail (Red Line) project, thereby asking the Nigeria Railway Corporation “to cooperate with the state government during the construction of the red line”.

He said the proposed extension of the Lagos-Ibadan Rail Project would go a long way to open up the economy of the South-west as well as facilitate regional integration and growth.

He said the project also marked a new dawn in the transformation of the nation’s transport infrastructure, especially for the South-west, thereby expressing delight that the take-off had become a reality.

Ambode added that aside boosting regional integration, the agricultural sector would receive the long awaited boost as the rail line “will be a fast and convenient means of transporting farm produce from the hinterland to the city thereby increasing the economies of the states”.

“A direct benefit of this project is that containers and goods from the Apapa Port will now be transported by rail thereby reducing the number of trailers and other heavy duty vehicles on our roads.

“A direct consequence of this project would be less productive man hours wasted on the roads due to gridlock and bad roads due to heavy duty vehicles. In addition, we expect government to expend fewer resources on road repair and maintenance once the rail line takes off and reduce the pressure of articulated vehicles on our roads,” the governor said.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/03/08/fg-china-to-finalise-11bn-lagos-calabar-rail-deal-in-june/

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