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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:18pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
vivvianne: Kenyans only cams here to set things straight. The insults were started by Nigerians. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:24pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Muafrika2:Obaboon must be one of those. His anus is always itchy. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by alexxo11(m): 5:25pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
TobiTobiTobiWhy:even when you go to spain you will stil speak little bit of spanish....infact their swahili is too down....believe me..plus are they speaking or writingi can tell they are learning swahilil... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:27pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
rvp2017: Thank you. I have been trying to educate them all through but what do you expect from someone who calls himself obafool and another whose greatest point is 'Buhahaha!'. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:51pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
alexxo11:what are you saying? but na kenyan you be. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 6:05pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:47pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
TayserMahiri Habari za jiona? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:44pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
alexxo11:HMMMM!You might have a point there.One of them bi.fwoli was exposed as an igbo woman on another thread.But a number of the ones here are actually kenyans.I know you are irritated by the facts that they are wasting away on a Nigerian site but you know many kenyan youths are unemployed and bored.I think the jobless kenyans are the ones who have made nairaland their second home.Take yourself,for instance,you show up only once in a blue moon.I'm coming here for the first time today but your brothers woke up here.Anyway,we have them where we want them.We influence their thoughts.Even if they were nigerians,we wash our hands off them.We are ashamed of them. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:04pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
@rvp2017...you are mistaken.The 200m nigerians are not catered for by only the $24bn federal budget.Each of our 36 states generate its own revenue and fund projects.Even without federal allocation to lagos for 3years it weathered the storm.Lagos budget for this year is over $2billion.States on their own access international loan and aid.Oyo state has a budget of over $500m despite being one of our less viable states and having a smaller population than nairobi.We practice different types of systems.So basing your argument on our federal budget of $24bn for 200m people is flawed.America has a foreign reserve in excess of maybe a trillion dollars,why is it still indebted.The same reason why Nigeria has to borrow despite having a $34BN reserve.Government revenue in Nigeria is over $50bn despite a weak tax net,and in kenya is less than $10bn,still less than 1/4 of ours.Besides,corruption in Africa makes nonsense of budgets.How come ur gdp is just $65b?Btw,what are Nairobi and Mombasa's budgets?Tell us. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:06pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Lagos my city
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 6:41am On Oct 03, 2017 |
It not any different - Kenya has Counties and south Africa has provinces -with their own budgets - but all of them significantly depend on federal or national budget to survive. I know Nigeria system is federal while Kenya is devolved - so only 35% now get remitted to counties while national or federal gov remain with 65%. I wish you could get us state budges minus the federal allocation so we can know just how miniscule this giant is. As for foreign reserves - this is just the money you need to cover your import bill - kenya has 8B foreign reserves - Nigeria with all the oil has 30B usd? obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 7:28am On Oct 03, 2017 |
rvp2017:Do you think recession is a child's play,our external reserve is now increasing.Let us recover fully from the recession and with our effort in investment in critical infrastructure like Rails,power, roads and aviation, Watch as Nigeria will Grow 5 times any country. Our external reserves is now $33 billion,it's growing at a fast pace |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 7:28am On Oct 03, 2017 |
rvp2017:Do you think recession is a child's play,our external reserve is now increasing.Let us recover fully from the recession and with our effort in investment in critical infrastructure like Rails,power, roads and aviation, Watch as Nigeria will Grow 5 times any country. Our external reserves is now $33 billion,it's growing at a fast pace http://sunnewsonline.com/nigerias-external-reserves-hit-33bn-cbn/ You talked about import duty,Nigeria is really cutting down important.Example cars,agric products,etc. We are already exporting more agric products,more mineral resources, cars,electric products,etc. We already have plans to start exporting technology, to make the World know Nigeria is a Talented country. We have learnt from the recession, states are now growing their IGR,Generating their own power like Calabar,Lagos, Edo,states from the North and many more |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:44am On Oct 03, 2017 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 7:49am On Oct 03, 2017 |
@rvp I didn't even know you are trying to molest Nigeria.Lagos Economy is bigger than the whole Kenya,at least Lagos is not the FCT again |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:58am On Oct 03, 2017 |
rvp2017:You are always on about the 'giant' thing and our large GDP.I will oblige u & give you oyo state budget without federal input then you also give me nairobi budget with or without fed input.From federal govt,Oyo gets yearly about N72bn:$250M.Oyo budget is N200BN: about$600M.That's $350m without fed input.Give me Nairobi's.Remember I am using oyo and not lagos or Rivers state. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:11am On Oct 03, 2017 |
Friend of mine wanted to buy a laptop. We checked kilimall,jumia and other sites but not satisfied. We tried olx just in case an there we got something…A business in Nairobi was selling i7 for 28000...thats like 1/3 of the price...Hah we just wanted to confirm so we visited their office (downtown Nairobi)…surprise its owned by a Nigerian an the naija dude is the one who handles the selling (surprise again)..so I pulled little of naija stuff have learned in this forum (thanks guys ) an we were buddies …so the guy was willing to sell the laptop at that price but also upgrade to 1tera storage capacity. Dude that is a direct show that it was stolen…my issues is that is really stupid. The guy was attracting unnecessary attention…we didn’t buy any coz that’s definitely stolen goods an also maybe cops are just waiting to pounce…anyway naijas be smart sometimes when handling your business in the land of champions…. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:33am On Oct 03, 2017 |
samsobo24:They can't wrap their heads around simple things.Nigeria suffered a debilitating recession and multiple aftershocks and yet foreign reserve remains times 4 kenya's despite the massive looting of the previous government.What pains them is the fact that kenya's gdp is smaller than lagos gdp.And each time they come to Nairaland,they see this legend:OUR COUNTRY NIGERIA IS THE GIANT OF AFRICA.They go mad when they see it but they can't help coming to nairaland.Seun Osewa really knows how to rub it in. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:56am On Oct 03, 2017 |
Nairobi 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:01am On Oct 03, 2017 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:14am On Oct 03, 2017 |
Make we see danfo with hydraulic lift kits like these code 254 nganyas. See at 1:29 what danfos cannot even hope for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIIPW9FQ1CE |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:11am On Oct 03, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:You back ba? Nzuri sana. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 11:53am On Oct 03, 2017 |
Manufacturing PMI in Kenya fell to 42.00 from 48.10 and Mni Business Sentiment went down to 59.60 from 62.40 in Dec 2016. Manufacturing PMI in Kenya all-time average stands at 52.58 and it's projection for Sep 2017 is 43.64. Mni Business Sentiment averaged 59.47 and is projected to be 58.7 in Feb 2017. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 11:55am On Oct 03, 2017 |
The Central Bank of Nigeria Manufacturing PMI rose to 55.3 in September 2017 from 53.6 in the previous month. The reading pointed to the fastest pace of expansion in the manufacturing sector since the series began in July 2014, boosted by stronger growth in production (up 1.4 points to 58., new orders (up 1.2 points to 53.5) and employment (up 1.3 points to 52.. On the price front, input inflation accelerated while output prices rose at softer pace. Manufacturing Pmi in Nigeria averaged 49.01 from 2014 until 2017, reaching an all time high of 55.30 in September of 2017 and a record low of 41.90 in June of 2016. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:51pm On Oct 03, 2017 |
obaaderemi:Mr man, i see that things haven't changed much. I just want to say, i lost the stamina for mindless sustained bullshitting and empty chest thumping long ago. A large paper GDP, yes. A real and booming economy, NO. A better life quality, NO. Stronger democratic institutions, NO. When ,or for what reason, will you find kenyans flocking to 9ja en masse? Certainly not now, or ever. Oga, visit the BBC website and look for a link to a podcast where Nigerians are crossing the Sahara to reach Libya in order to get on a deathtrap masquerading as a boat, all in order to get TO Europe and AWAY from big GDP Nigeria. Very very heart rending tales of those migrants and a bombshell indictment of the TRUE state of big GDP Nigeria. In the year of our lord 2017 there are even buying slaves in Libya. Nigerians being bought and sold by those heartless desert dwellers like goats and sheep. It seems like you guys don't value a human life, what kind of GIant allows such BS in 2017 ? They will go anywhere as long as they are as far away from Nigeria as possible. Every time I read on the travel section people asking each other how to go" hustle" in places as strange as Faroe islands and even PNG. My God! 9ja peeps are all over Nairobi and Mombasa acting like this is their grandma's cattle kraal. Some are even in the smaller towns like Ruai where they are busy stabbing each other at point blank range because of money. I mean if someone owes you cash, will killing him solve the problem? Our people aren't used to this kind of crazy, please coman take your brothers away, let us be mumu, but not crazy. I went to donholm last week and my sister and her husband were complaining about the noisy and rude nigerians all over the place and how they are preying or being preyed upon by women of easy virtue, thereby lowering the moral standards of the area. Ask yourself, can people from a big GDP country be flying 2,000 miles across Africa to do small time hustles? Is that a country to admire? Large GDP my blue arse! Create a functional and functioning entity that is the envy of all, then we can talk GIant. Remember the words of Leopold Senghor who said a tiger does not proclaim its tigritude, it just roars. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:53pm On Oct 03, 2017 |
I see. Nairobi budget is around 300m usd - most of Kenya's 47 counties operate on around 100-200M USD budget. And as you well know unlike Nigeria states - our counties have limited functions - they can't even borrow or have deficit budget. The central GOK shares out 35% of collected taxes (about 15B Usd) - so in total counties shares 3-4B usd; so the National Gov of Kenya remain with 22B for paying teachers, army and building roads.Nigeria has federal budget of 20B - with majority being allocation to the states - so at end of the day - the federal GoK of Nigeria is left with very little to do anything serious. As for federal reserves...with all the oil...earning you forex...you 30B usd is a joke. Kenya has no oil...but it boast of 8B forex reserves...enough to cover 4-5 months of imports. Is Nigeria 30B enough to cover imports - considering Nigeria basically import everything. If the answer is yes - why is USD dollar on black market selling for 400 nairas? Why is naira so unstable against foreign currency. KSHS is very stable. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:58pm On Oct 03, 2017 |
What recession. You have dummy economy that depend entirely on OIL and swings with oil prices? Kenya has very well diversified economy - why can't Nigeria build an economy that doesn't sway with global oil prices? How can you invest in infrastructure with 20B USD budget is that even enough to pay decent salaries? samsobo24: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:41pm On Oct 03, 2017 |
MtuMsuper:Thanks man ..wanted to shout that to my fellow nigerians...those punks have selected donholm as their base of late but cops know that..The cops dont give a butt coz mpesa ndio imekua mambo yote..They say the dudes are criminal so parting with 50 to 80 k is normal |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 2:57pm On Oct 03, 2017 |
rvp2017:I will say this lastly,because of the oil popular oil that you people hear on the media has blindfolded you that we have non oil sectors. Take this Entertainment, one of the largest or if not the largest. Banking, one of the biggest Telecomms Minerals Agric Manufacturing, despite not having 24hrs light. Nigeria is not where it should be because of our leaders,despite that Kenya should stop trying to flex muscles beside the country that has handled and managed many issues. Pls ask anybody about Kenya,they I'll be like,kenyaaaaaaa. Kenya does not come near to Nigeria, full stop. Kenya's have really been working so hard on this forum to make the world feel they are better than Nigeria.Any we talk about GDP you shout oil, if we say Lagos,you say ............ Compare: 1.Telecommunications 2.Banking 3.Manufacturing 4.and other non oil sectors and stop shouting 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 3:18pm On Oct 03, 2017 |
samsobo24:Nigeria is thelargest telecommunications market in Africa and the Middle East. http://streamafrica.com/news/nigerias-telecommunications-industry-largest-in-africa/ telecommunications gave us a boost and not oil http://www.itwebafrica.com/m/news/rBGW2JNPJWpX Even the lane man on the street of Kenya knows that Nigeria 's entertainment is one of the largest in the world and second largest film industry in the world. Manufacturing, fastest growing sector https://www.cnbcafrica.com/news/2014/09/08/nigeria-gdp-q2-growth/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C4546158397 Should we talk about religious tourism ICT http://punchng.com/nigeria-is-now-africas-largest-ict-market-tickoo/ |
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