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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 8:12pm On Oct 03, 2017
The African Development Bank Group has two other entities: the African Development Fund (ADF) and the Nigeria Trust Fund (NTF).
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:14pm On Oct 03, 2017
TobiTobiTobiWhy:
Is that an insult i only understand karibu. Habari za jiona? Mimi sana ni sorry about earlier, wewe si gay. cheesy

No insult. The word is jioni (evening) not jiona. And seriously dude, am no homo. Why are you insisting this much? You waant me to upload my gf here?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:19pm On Oct 03, 2017
TayserMahiri:


No insult. The word is jioni (evening) not jiona. And seriously dude, am no homo. Why are you insisting this much? You waant me to upload my gf here?
Nzuri. cool. Do you prefer Wewe si gay or Wewe ni gay
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 8:21pm On Oct 03, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Misguided and religiously brainwashed kenyans are just religious fanatics. Its not a FLOOD. The migration and associated crimes of human trafficking taking place in the Sahara is one. A huuuuge sick crisis. FYI all Islamic cocomentals have members drawn from across the world. That's why indonesian and Dagestan (majority Muslim province of Russia ) have got fighters in alshabab or boko boys or IS and alqaeda. Nothing new. Most of Nigeria's large GDP is locked up in oil production statistics and is skewed. 65 or 70bn $ for 48 mn people is phenomenal given we don't have any mineral or oil, or rather, at least until 2012 we didn't. Even the massive oil wealth of Nigeria hasn't driven the growth expected of her since independence. Instead, it has enriched the Diezani types who charter flights to go and flock Harrods and Marks and Spencer in London with moneybags all the while giving a false impression of a wealthy country.
If you want to engage me properly, can we start a mini discussion about how the Nigerian "economy " has impacted west Africa since the 60s? How would you rate Nigerian influence on economic growth of West Africa countries as juxtaposed with how kenya is a magnet in East Africa or south Africa is in the southern Africa region? Egypt too has immense influence on the surrounding region and that includes Israel too. Whither Nigeria in West Africa.
Am open to a a serious engagement on this, no emotions.


In Nigeria’s Afro-centric foreign policy, the West African Sub-region remains the first line of implementation. Given the vast size, natural, economic and human resources, large market drive, Nigeria perceives itself as having an historic mission to exercise hegemonic influence in the West African Sub-region and indeed, the black world. Her economic strength and the high level of human resources at her disposal have allowed her a measure of autonomy in the pursuit of Africa’s genuine interests in global politics. This can be seen in her role in the Organization for African Unity, which later metamorphosised into the African Union (AU), other sub regional groupings such as Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), the Chad Basin Commission and Commonwealth of Nations. The role that Nigeria has played in various international organizations over the years has been proactive, especially in the AU. Nigeria has vigorously articulated and consistently defended African concerns and interests as a member of various international organizations. She has used this platform to champion the interests of Africa in the true spirit of Pan- Africanism. That is why in recognition of her struggles and contribution to the elimination of colonialism, apartheid and racism she was categorized as a “Frontline State”. In line with her leading role in the AU and ECOWAS, Nigeria has been supportive of these organizations in the area of conflict resolution. The framework for this has been provided in Article III of the Charter which commits the AU to peaceful settlement of disputes by negotiation, mediation, conciliation or arbitration. Nigeria’s participation in peace keeping efforts is a manifestation of its concern and regard for the need to give priority and clear expression to the value of the bond which forms part of history of all Africans, particularly those who inhabit the West Coast of the continent. Nigeria had the largest contingent in the ECOMOG peace keeping force, committing huge human and financial resources to the activities of the force. Nigeria continuously plays crucial mediatory roles in crisis situations among African countries and the rest of the international community. Her contributions towards peace and stability in Africa are unparalleled. Specifically, she has participated in peace keeping operations in the Chad, Liberia, Sierra Leone, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Angola, Cote d’ Ivoire, Somalia and Darfur in Sudan, to mention a few. Among the immediate challenges facing Nigeria as a leading country in the African continent, is resolving the many conflicts raging on the continent. Nigeria and indeed the entire West African region have devoted considerable human, material, political and diplomatic resources to the resolution of the crises in the sub-region, starting far back with Liberia and then to Chad, Sierra Leone, Guinea Bissau, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Angola and more recently the Darfur crisis, to mention a few.


[b]Within the West African Sub region, successive administrations in Nigeria have [/b]ensured the promotion of cooperation with other African nations in all fields of human endeavour through economic exchanges and regional integration of members. This has been achieved through deployment of more Technical Aide Corps (TAC) volunteers whose services have been in high demand by other countries to assist in the areas of their manpower needs. In specific terms, there have been considerable integration through sharing Nigeria’s know-how and expertise with other African, Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) countries; Promotion of integrated infrastructure in the West African sub-region; Establishment of the ECOWAS free trade area; Promotion of sub regional (ECOWAS) Economic integration; Establishment of the Ministry of Cooperation and Integration (which was later subsumed in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs); Establishment of the Second West African Monetary Zone; Complete eradication of all rigid border formalities; Adoption of a common ECOWAS Passport; Establishment of ECOWAS Trade Liberalization Scheme (TLS); Establishment of the ECOWAS Court of Justice; and Promotion of sub regional peace and security initiatives. Read more at: https://economicconfidential.com/features/nigerias-leadership-roles-in-africa-and-daunting-challenges
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 8:26pm On Oct 03, 2017
This is a video of Nigeria's prime Minister in 1961, on his visit to the U.S urging the U.S to help Africa by supporting the independence of the other African countries colonized. Watch and see the respect shown to him then.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT5m9Fn9RBg
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:05pm On Oct 03, 2017
Bufallo Mall, Naivasha Town, Nakuru County, Kenya

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:07pm On Oct 03, 2017
Bufallo Mall

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:13pm On Oct 03, 2017
Baby Kenya,trying to be like Matured Nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:17pm On Oct 03, 2017
samsobo24:
Baby Kenya,trying to be like Matured Nigeria

huh, keep deceiving yourself. I know how bad your so called malls are.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:29pm On Oct 03, 2017
Obi1kenobi:
There doesn't exist a Nigerian who doesn't know South Africa is considerably more developed than Nigeria. Not sure what it is with the Saffer spamming the thread. We do know though that it would have great similarities with Zimbabwe and Malawi and Mozambique without whitey who controls an incredible portion of the wealth. Though I know you'd rather kid yourself otherwise.
Nigeria is a white man's creation tho...just saying!!!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:08am On Oct 04, 2017
Lol



Abuja —Kenya’s former anti-corruption czar, Patrick Lumumba, yesterday held Nigeria responsible for underdevelopment of Africa through its poverty caused by graft in public service.

Consequently, he called for total support for the anti-corruption war of President Muhammadu Buhari, so Nigeria can take its place in the comity of nations.
Lumumba, who spoke at the seminar, entitled
The role of the legislature in the fight against
corruption in Nigeria , organised by the anti-corruption committees of the Senate and House of Representatives in Abuja, said for Nigeria and by extension, Africa, to develop, Nigerian leaders must be ready to battle the cankerworm.

“Africa is behind because Nigeria has not released her potential. It’s time the leaders rose because one in every five Africans is a Nigerian,’’ said Lumumba in his keynote address.

Lumumba, a professor of law, described Nigeria as a microcosm of Africa and, as such, could not afford to get things wrong.

He stressed the need to enthrone behavioural change culture in Nigeria, adding that the country must put in place stringent mechanism that would effectively checkmate corruption.

He said: ‘’The three arms of government must strengthen and not undermine the institutions that are meant to fight corruption so that Nigeria can realise its potential.

“People must be made to know that if you reap where you have not sown, there are consequences. Men only change their behaviours when there is a threat pain.

“Institutions are the heart of the fight against corruption but he (Buhari) will not succeed if the legislature is not behind him and the institutions are not strengthened, because only institutions defy time and outlive those that live on graft.’’
Earlier in his opening remarks, Senate President, Dr. Bukola Saraki, said Nigeria had faile to seriously fight corruption for more than 40 years.
According to him, the National Assembly will partner with the Federal Government for lasting solutions to the problem.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/africa-poor-nigeria-says-kenyas-ex-anti-corruption-chief/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:11am On Oct 04, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Misguided and religiously brainwashed kenyans are just religious fanatics. Its not a FLOOD. The migration and associated crimes of human trafficking taking place in the Sahara is one. A huuuuge sick crisis. FYI all Islamic cocomentals have members drawn from across the world. That's why indonesian and Dagestan (majority Muslim province of Russia ) have got fighters in alshabab or boko boys or IS and alqaeda. Nothing new. Most of Nigeria's large GDP is locked up in oil production statistics and is skewed. 65 or 70bn $ for 48 mn people is phenomenal given we don't have any mineral or oil, or rather, at least until 2012 we didn't. Even the massive oil wealth of Nigeria hasn't driven the growth expected of her since independence. Instead, it has enriched the Diezani types who charter flights to go and flock Harrods and Marks and Spencer in London with moneybags all the while giving a false impression of a wealthy country.
If you want to engage me properly, can we start a mini discussion about how the Nigerian "economy " has impacted west Africa since the 60s? How would you rate Nigerian influence on economic growth of West Africa countries as juxtaposed with how kenya is a magnet in East Africa or south Africa is in the southern Africa region? Egypt too has immense influence on the surrounding region and that includes Israel too. Whither Nigeria in West Africa.
Am open to a a serious engagement on this, no emotions.

Excellent analysis! Observe
: London – A London leading retailer shop, Debenhams, has adopted Hausa, a language spoken by nearly 45 million people in West Africa including Nigeria, to woo customers as race for summer sales starts. The retailer had placed a bold sign reading: “Na gode don sayayyarka a Debenhams’’ in Hausa meaning, “Thank you for shopping at Debenhams’’ at the entrance of its Oxford street Branch in London.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/05/london-leading-retailer-shop-adopts-hausa-language-to-woo-customers/

More proof everything we've told you is true! Yes,you do have multimillionaires living like Royalty but the majority are miserable distorting the true picture-you never understand this and keep screeching about Adenuga,Dangote et al.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 10:18am On Oct 04, 2017
kikuyu1:


Excellent analysis! Observe
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/05/london-leading-retailer-shop-adopts-hausa-language-to-woo-customers/

More proof everything we've told you is true! Yes,you do have multimillionaires living like Royalty but the majority are miserable distorting the true picture-you never understand this and keep screeching about Adenuga,Dangote et al.
Nigeria also have a very large middle class larger than Kenya, but you are right, the majority do not belong to that group but no matter how poor Nigeria is, you do not easily find homeless people or those in famine. Kenya has had no real war with large refugee spill out, but sometimes we hear of famine in Kenya for a population of 40 million. Also inequality a disease in Nigeria is all over the world, worse in SA l believe.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:50am On Oct 04, 2017
kikuyu1:


Excellent analysis! Observe
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/05/london-leading-retailer-shop-adopts-hausa-language-to-woo-customers/

More proof everything we've told you is true! Yes,you do have multimillionaires living like Royalty but the majority are miserable distorting the true picture-you never understand this and keep screeching about Adenuga,Dangote et al.
It reflects the popularity of hausa.If the store had used swahili,would you have had a problem with that?And yet kenya is far rated as more corrupt than Nigeria.Also Nigeria has a larger middle class than kenya even with your small population.I think you should face your problems in that country of yours and hold your leaders for more accountability.If you need a kokoboko to beat them with,I can help you with that.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 11:01am On Oct 04, 2017
obaaderemi:
Don't mind the hypocrites.By the way,it's been a while,bro.
Yes bro, but I follow the thread once in a while.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 11:06am On Oct 04, 2017
Nigeria.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 11:25am On Oct 04, 2017
Lagos

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 11:27am On Oct 04, 2017
Ibadan, Reach out Nigeria by Christ Embassy on Independence.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 12:06pm On Oct 04, 2017
The streets of Abuja

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 12:10pm On Oct 04, 2017
Nigeria

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 12:14pm On Oct 04, 2017
Traffic on Lagos roads.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 12:16pm On Oct 04, 2017
Nigeria.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:37pm On Oct 04, 2017
Boyedex:
Nigeria.
Twale! cheesy if a stupid Nigerian can create a thread to glorify Kenya why can't we?. Brother, please create a thread in the travel section and post this beautiful pictures. Let everyone promote Nigeria. If you can't, i will and invite you.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by realjoker(m): 12:51pm On Oct 04, 2017
Shaytun:


Lol



Abuja —Kenya’s former anti-corruption czar, Patrick Lumumba, yesterday held Nigeria responsible for underdevelopment of Africa through its poverty caused by graft in public service.

Consequently, he called for total support for the anti-corruption war of President Muhammadu Buhari, so Nigeria can take its place in the comity of nations.
Lumumba, who spoke at the seminar, entitled
The role of the legislature in the fight against
corruption in Nigeria , organised by the anti-corruption committees of the Senate and House of Representatives in Abuja, said for Nigeria and by extension, Africa, to develop, Nigerian leaders must be ready to battle the cankerworm.

“Africa is behind because Nigeria has not released her potential.
It’s time the leaders rose because one in every five Africans is a Nigerian,’’ said Lumumba in his keynote address.

Lumumba, a professor of law, described Nigeria as a microcosm of Africa and, as such, could not afford to get things wrong.


He stressed the need to enthrone behavioural change culture in Nigeria, adding that the country must put in place stringent mechanism that would effectively checkmate corruption.

He said: ‘’The three arms of government must strengthen and not undermine the institutions that are meant to fight corruption so that Nigeria can realise its potential.

“People must be made to know that if you reap where you have not sown, there are consequences. Men only change their behaviours when there is a threat pain.

“Institutions are the heart of the fight against corruption but he (Buhari) will not succeed if the legislature is not behind him and the institutions are not strengthened, because only institutions defy time and outlive those that live on graft.’’
Earlier in his opening remarks, Senate President, Dr. Bukola Saraki, said Nigeria had faile to seriously fight corruption for more than 40 years.
According to him, the National Assembly will partner with the Federal Government for lasting solutions to the problem.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/africa-poor-nigeria-says-kenyas-ex-anti-corruption-chief/
The speech of this Kenya anti corruption czar has vindicated us of all what we Nigerians have been saying on this thread.

From the bolded this are the key take home
1, Nigeria is the key to unlock Africa development
2, Nigeria is role model to every other Africa countries
3, Other Africa countries look up to us to take the lead as we are the giant of Africa
4, Africa is behind because Nigeria( the giant of Africa) has not released her potential.
5, The man Seems to be idolising Bubu, grin
6, For Nigeria and by extension, Africa, to develop, Nigerian leaders must fight corruption.
7, Lumumba, a professor of law, described Nigeria as a microcosm of Africa and, as such, could not afford to get things wrong

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:12pm On Oct 04, 2017
Daejoyoung:

Nigeria also have a very large middle class larger than Kenya, but you are right, the majority do not belong to that group but no matter how poor Nigeria is, you do not easily find homeless people or those in famine. Kenya has had no real war with large refugee spill out, but sometimes we hear of famine in Kenya for a population of 40 million. Also inequality a disease in Nigeria is all over the world, worse in SA l believe.

Actually,no. This is a recent commentary on the true state of your middle class from a Naijjan:
Regrettably, many working class Nigerians cannot meet their financial obligations due to the present recession that has affected and changed the lifestyle and spending patterns of this particular set of individuals.
Many of the people in this class have moved from highbrow areas to low cost areas because of the economic realities. In a telephone chat, Chucks Davies, an estate developer at Ikeja area, revealed “In the last few months, we have recorded a high rate of tenants moving from Ikeja to other areas, particularly Ibeju-Lekki area because the place is just developing, hence rents are cheaper and people can afford it.”
http://www.businessdayonline.com/nigerias-waning-middle-class/

As I've mentioned severally consumption data is key to all economic data. If on paper your GDP reads like RSA yet your per capita consumption,oil,sugar,cement,kwhrs read like Uganda or Lesotho you can throw away ALL YOUR OFFICIAL STATS! Look:
Consumption was also once useful in defining the class but that is no longer tenable, as the economy obviously is playing a different tune. People who thought they were economically stable are now finding themselves, even poorer.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:17pm On Oct 04, 2017
realjoker:

The speech of this Kenya anti corruption czar has vindicated us of all what we Nigerians have been saying on this thread.

From the bolded this are the key take home
1, Nigeria is the key to unlock Africa development
2, Nigeria is role model to every other Africa countries
3, Other Africa countries look up to us to take the lead as we are the giant of Africa
4, Africa is behind because Nigeria( the giant of Africa) has not released her potential.
5, The man Seems to be idolising Bubu, grin
6, For Nigeria and by extension, Africa, to develop, Nigerian leaders must fight corruption.
7, Lumumba, a professor of law, described Nigeria as a microcosm of Africa and, as such, could not afford to get things wrong
Even the kenyans knew all of these things before they were out of diapers and could wipe their own bomboms.You see how regular they are on nairaland catchIng up with the latest on Nigeria.Everybody is watching Nigeria and we need to up our game

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:35pm On Oct 04, 2017
The problem isn't just intellectual but obviously emotional explaining the hysterical denial and refusal to confront the truth. Here's a wonderful write up on this coping mechanism by a Naijjan.
During a recent trip spent travelling across Nigeria, a banker friend of mine advised me to “keep things positive” if I ever shared my observations in “western media”. I pointed out Nigeria is currently in dire economic straits; many civil servants haven’t received a salary this year, pensions are going unpaid, people are struggling to feed their families and children are actually starving to death in the country’s north-east. “Writing about it won’t help those people. And you know negative western media stories on Africa only make these white folk and others look down on us,” my friend replied. O
http://roape.net/2016/10/14/nigerias-chattering-classes-poverty-denial-africa/

Its a short read packed with facts many of us struggle to reveal here like this:
[b]For instance, 62.6% of Nigerians currently live in poverty, compared to 27.2% in 1980. [/b]Yet for some Nigerians, “balanced media coverage” amounts to talking up the latest individual success story as evidence “not all Africans are poor and suffering” and that the country is “making progress”.
....
Jonathan’s ludicrous response aptly illustrates the prevalent attitude within the privileged classes. It is a combination of denial bordering on the delusional coupled with a post-colonial complex – emotional responses which attempt to shout down unpleasant statistics and imply that whenever the western world talks of African poverty, the aim is to paint the continent in a bad light.

My personal favourite!

...
A recent favourite is to question the veracity of poverty statistics on Africa. I’ve had heated debates with well-educated Africans who, when confronted with the unflattering numbers, reply: “But how exactly did they come about those statistics? Why is the poverty line calculated in dollars and not in local currencies?”

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE NAIJJANS HERE THROWN OUT THAT LINE!? Btw,nothing personal but before replying pls read the whole thing-twice.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:43pm On Oct 04, 2017
kikuyu1:


Actually,no. This is a recent commentary on the true state of your middle class from a Naijjan:
http://www.businessdayonline.com/nigerias-waning-middle-class/

As I've mentioned severally consumption data is key to all economic data. If on paper your GDP reads like RSA yet your per capita consumption,oil,sugar,cement,kwhrs read like Uganda or Lesotho you can throw away ALL YOUR OFFICIAL STATS! Look:
Mumu, Nigeria is out of recession. Things are getting cheaper.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 2:32pm On Oct 04, 2017
kikuyu1:


Actually,no. This is a recent commentary on the true state of your middle class from a Naijjan:
http://www.businessdayonline.com/nigerias-waning-middle-class/

As I've mentioned severally consumption data is key to all economic data. If on paper your GDP reads like RSA yet your per capita consumption,oil,sugar,cement,kwhrs read like Uganda or Lesotho you can throw away ALL YOUR OFFICIAL STATS! Look:
It's still not worse than that of your 40million Kenya, that's my point. Middle class in Africa generally has not risen to a great level.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 2:44pm On Oct 04, 2017
kikuyu1:
The problem isn't just intellectual but obviously emotional explaining the hysterical denial and refusal to confront the truth. Here's a wonderful write up on this coping mechanism by a Naijjan.

http://roape.net/2016/10/14/nigerias-chattering-classes-poverty-denial-africa/

Its a short read packed with facts many of us struggle to reveal here like this:
....


My personal favourite!

...

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE NAIJJANS HERE THROWN OUT THAT LINE!? Btw,nothing personal but before replying pls read the whole thing-twice.


So am supposed to accepts a random person opinion on a Faceless Blog as What?....... FACTS?

YOU MUST BE JOKING grin

When you spend productive time looking for bad news from a particualar country in thos Age.......You will surely find it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:01pm On Oct 04, 2017
Recession things cheesy grin grin cheesy grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

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