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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lucque: 9:52am On Oct 12, 2017 |
forgiveness:someone has hacked forgiveness' account.... No ajagun? ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:52am On Oct 12, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Caged, precise and incisive movements(note movements in plural):What a contradiction! 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 9:55am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Thats why I say its not by force. Easy or no easy decision, they will have to live with what happens afterwards. If you dont believe me, ask John Fashanu about his FA chairmanship aspirations |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:57am On Oct 12, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Against SA you meant. In that game we were losing the midfield battle so bringing out a midfielder to introduce Kayode so we have two strikers upfont would only spell more doom. The problem in that game was that we were not getting enough balls to the lone striker (Iheanacho). Ihenacho seemed to have mobility issues in that game so Kayode a more mobile striker was brought in for Iheanocho. Also Kayode as we know is good at one on one situations which we needed at that point to get the goal due to the lack of balls as earlier stated Substitutions depend a lot on balance of play. You saw what happened to Shakespeare's Leicester City against Arsenal when Iheanacho was introduced and a midfielder(forgotten his name) was pulled out, Leicester collapsed and Arsenal won. It is not all the time that when you are chasing a game that you introduce a second striker. Some times you do a like for like, depending on the balance of play. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:01am On Oct 12, 2017 |
kennysville:I have not seen or read where anyone has been subjected by force to play for Nigeria. That's why I say those who say we are begging do not appreciate the situation. We persuade not force. Repeatedly there has been calls for Enyeama to return. Does that equate to begging him? I think not. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:02am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Caged is when players combine to stop a player from having free chances to attack. However, within a cage, there is room for movements. See rats in a cage can still move. Nacho made movements that opened spaces for others to thrive. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:06am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s: Sorry. Against South Africa in Uyo. Nacho did not have problems with mobility. Not at all. The problem we had was someone not making use of the advantage of Iheanacho's mobility. So why think of bringing mobility with Kayode? I do not even see Kayode as a more mobile forward. The midfield was not the problem until the second half. What we needed was to sort the final ball with positional changes. That was absolutely wrong and the limitation of Rohr's technical crew and tactical depth showed. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:09am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s:I shook my head when I read what he wrote. And talking about our game in Cameroun, I don't see how his strategy was bad and I know that if we had won, we would have trumped him up as a tactical genius. Regarding our last game in Uyo, goodjoe was afraid that we'd pack the bus but was that what happened? Was that game not a goal to goal attacking foray as both sides alternated and returned fire for fire? From the time we won Cameroun 4-0, the need to qualify became even more paramount and pressing to the extent that all that fancy set up no longer mattered. We've qualified, let's see how things pan out going forward. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:11am On Oct 12, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: By mobility issues I meant timing of runs. Iheanacho was either running too early thereby being off or running late there by the ball being out of his reach. Plus also Kayode is a very fast player. He is more pacy when in possession of the ball than Iheanacho. Also Iheanacho seemed to have gassed out. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:13am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s: That change by Shakespeare to pull out James for Iheanacho was wrong. The shape was alright. Shakespeare needed to pull out Vardy and give Nacho a shot with the chances coming. What Rohr needed to do against SA was not to change the shape but personnel to get someone with the ability to give good passes to Nacho. Bringing Kayode in did not change personnel or shape. However, it did not solve the problem. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:14am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: You get it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:15am On Oct 12, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:I thought I had you caged but you still found room for movement inside the cage. Weh done 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:18am On Oct 12, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Bringing in Kayode to play alongside Iheanacho would have definitely changed the shape of the team. Besides we were already playing on a 4-3-3 formation. Talking about change of personnel to give the passes, who was that personnel from the bench that you think Rohr should have introduced? I hope you are not suggesting Mikel Agu. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:19am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s: in the game against SA we totally dominated the midfield, there goal was either a lucky break or a corner kick gone bad for us, pulling out Iheanacho made no sense whatsoever. The problems were with the final balls, at a time like that the coach will decide if he still wants to sub in a midfielder who can play defence splitting passes or sub in an attacker who can carry the ball from midfield to attack, Nacho had no business leaving that field 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:25am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Kog45: i thought I was the only that saw it. A brilliant coach whilst sitting down on the touchline already knows how things can go wrong and how to sort it out but when Onazi was injured, Aina, Agu and even Ogu stood up and the coach didn't even know who was going to come into the game and there was a period he looked back and I think it was one of his nigerian assistants that said let's put Agu and we saw just how great that idea was. Rohr is not a tactician, Keshi, Siasia, Amuneke and even John Obuh would outclass him tactically, not to mention Westerhof 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:25am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s: The passes were atrocious, not the runs in any way. Some of the passes were going directly to the goalkeeper. That has nothing to do with the timing of the runs. I only remembered Nacho offside once and that was a deliberate effort to get to the poorly hit balls. So if Rohr liked, he could bring in Messi, Aguero or Suarez, none of them would get to those balls. That was not the problem and Rohr got it wrong. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:28am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mickael2:Yea Kayode should have complement Nacho upfront,removing Nacho was a tactical error on d part of Rohr |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:29am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Kog45 when you say Rohr is conservative do you mean in terms of strategy or personel? Let me give you heads up: On personel I trust you see that Rohr is bringing down the age limit of the team to the extent that we have one of the youngest teams in Africa? He is not radical yet he has thrown Agu into the mix three times ahead of Ogu On tactics:Do you know that after we trashed Cameroun, Bassagog said that they knew how we used to play and they were set up to play us that way but that on match day we adopted a different strategy that confused them? And how come we scored 11 goals in a group called group of death. Cc goodjoe, Icon4s, mickael2 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:35am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s: the national team is not club football, agreed but it is not far from it. What about Germany? They can play their third eleven within 6days of calling them together and they will easily hammer Portugal are they not also a national team? You tamper with a winning team because you need to make that team better, why did Spain look so bad at the 2014 World cup? Because they didn't want to tamper with a winning team. Meanwhile changing a winning team isn't even the main tactical prowess I am talking about. You can see it written all over Rohr's face, when he is making substitutions he looks on like he isn't so sure. The last time he made a good tactical switch was in the first leg against Zambia when he brought in Esiti to help neutralise the opposing team, since then all his substitutions have been bothering on mediocrity and all the time they are like for like subs. Meanwhile I didn't say we can get those coaches, you said German coaches are similar to Rohr, just some examples. It took Westerhof 5years but in his very first year we got to the final whilst playing some sleek football. Now if this Zambia game was played in an Afcon quaterfinal we would not have won in regular time because they wouldn't need to attack. The few times we have played against parked buses we hardly made anything out of it. Rohr is seriously tactically limited, his man-management skills though are okay |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:38am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mickael2:I just hope Rohr get it tactical right before WC coz no room for mistakes. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:39am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s:I have noticed this too. nacho's movements sometimes makes it difficult for players to get the ball to him. He suffered this at man city and someone here blamed it on city's attacking players, that they were trying to starve him of the ball. Lets say the truth, nacho does not have it as a CF, he may continue like this if he isn't played as a supporting striker or false 9. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:41am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: one by one. How is throwing Agu in before Ogu and Etebo a sign of tactical knowhow? It's a clear case of favouritism(in Forgiveness' voice). That is even more reason why we have to agree that he is limited tactically. How is what Bassogog said relevant? They thought we would come out to play football because Nigeria over the ages can never start playing a defensive game because of Cameroon. Meanwhile it was only Bassagog that came out to say something like that, no doubt to save his own face after an abysmal showing, that was not a tactical move by Rohr one bit. And when the opponents came with an equally strong tactics what did we do? Yeah we scored none and conceeded two 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:43am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: The thing is with names of young Nigerian players flying up and down many of us are so much in a haste for Rohr to drop the older more experienced players for the new ones. Hence they think he is conservative in that regards. Also some expect us to attack and attack and always attack our opponents in all games home and away no matter the dynamics of the games. This group also feel Rohr is conservative. What Rohr is doing is what an experienced coach does. He understands that the team needs transition but he also understands this transition should be done in a very balanced way. New players would be introduced but gradually. It took Westerhof 5 years to build that 1994 team. By and large I agree with the suggestion that Rohr needs help tactically. The NFF needs to hire a special tactician for the sole purpose of the WC. Jo Bonfere was the special tactician to Westerhof. We can get same for Rohr. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 10:43am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Don’t accept Tammy Abraham in Eagles, Adelabu tells NFF ![]() Tammy Abraham allegedly confirmed two days ago that talks were on- going with Nigeria shortly after scoring for England Former Green Eagles winger , Adegoke Adelabu has advised the leadership of the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) not to listen to England U- 21 forward , Tammy Abraham , following reports that he has dropped another hint as regards his interest in switching allegiance to Nigeria after Super Eagles ’ qualification for Russia 2018 World Cup . During preparation for the Super Eagles’ World Cup qualifier against Zambia, NFF president, Amaju Pinnick claimed that Chelsea striker Abraham, who is on loan at Swansea , had committed to declaring for Nigeria . However , the 19 - year - old Abraham quickly distanced himself from the claims. Now according to latest reports , Abraham allegedly confirmed two days ago that talks were on - going with Nigeria shortly after scoring for England U- 21 in their 3 - 1 win over Scotland . For Adelabu , the latest turn around by Abraham should not be taken serious by the NFF. “ Tammy should stay away from our national team. I want the NFF to use him as an example to other junior players, who feel that without them , Nigerian football won ’ t go anywhere . Tammy has just realized that he might not be part of England ’ s squad to the World Cup in Russia , so he can quickly make a u- turn to Nigeria. No way . The NFF must not listen to him. We have enough players good to win the World Cup if only the team is well prepared .” According to the report , Abraham, who has been ever present for the U- 21 s of England that are top of their Euro 2019 qualifying group, liked and commented on a video posted by Alex Iwobi on Instagram. https://m.guardian.ng/sport/dont-accept-tammy-abraham-in-eagles-adelabu-tells-nff/ 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:44am On Oct 12, 2017 |
cromz: The guy coach told him not u play for Nigeria then but I don't know if he has changed his mind. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:45am On Oct 12, 2017 |
blueto: TheGoodJoe what do you say here? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:47am On Oct 12, 2017 |
jotey: Abeg shift make we see road. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:50am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mickael2:Between your word and that of Bsssagog who was on the field of play whose report should we believe? On Agu, you misread me. I mentioned Agu not in relation to tactics but personel vis-a-vis the notion that Rohr is conservative. And I also talked about the age of the team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:51am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: If Rohr doesn't give this boy a chance against Algeria then I know his case will turn out to be like Kenneth Otigba who openly pledged to play for Nigeria but was never given a chance. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:53am On Oct 12, 2017 |
jotey:Hahahaha hahahaha, jotey my man. Make I go look for news of somebody wey say make Tammy play for us. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 10:54am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Gernot Rohr plans new team for Russia 2018 World Cup ![]() Algeria sacks coach Super Eagles ’ Technical Manager, Gernot Rohr has revealed his plans to build a formidable team before the Russia 2018 World Cup . The coach believes some of the current players in the Super Eagles are not the materials he would rely on for a successful campaign in the World Cup finals in Russia, adding that he has the ambition of surpassing Nigeria ’s previous performance in the event . Although the 64 - year - old Franco - German was delighted at the Eagles ’ qualification for the global showpiece, he said the team needed a major surgery before the FIFA World Cup finals. “ Players in the mould of Zinedine Zidane and Thiery Henry , who once played under me , are the calibre of stars I would want in the Super Eagles to execute the World Cup finals in Russia,” Rohr said . Insisting that he has not yet assembled his choice World Cup team , Rohr was emphatic that he would parade his best players in the group final game against Algeria in Constantine on November 6 . Remarkably, Nigeria is making her sixth FIFA World Cup appearance since its debut in USA ‘94 . The Eagles were at France ‘ 98 , Japan / Korea 2002, South Africa 2010 and Brazil 2014 . Sources close to the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) said the German is expected to disclose to the federation his World Cup programme before he travels to Europe . These will include plans for grade A friendlies and training tours to prepare the players for the Russia 2018 World Cup campaign. Meanwhile, Algeria has parted ways with their manager , Lucas Alcaraz following the team’s elimination from the race to Russia . Superdeporte.es reports that the coach, who has a win record of one in four games since taking over from George Leekens when the Belgian resigned in February , has already returned to Spain. Algeria are out of the race to qualify for the World Cup after picking up just one point in five games , in a group where they were viewed as favourite to qualify when the draws were made . They lost 0 - 2 to Cameroon at the weekend . It has been a disastrous campaign for them as Alcaraz only took charge of the team in April following the resignation of Leekens in February before their reverse tie against Nigeria . They are now searching for their fifth coach in just over a year since the start of the qualifiers for the World Cup 2018, where they are rooted to the bottom of group B . https://m.guardian.ng/sport/gernot-rohr-plans-new-team-for-russia-2018-world-cup/ 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:55am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Abi o |
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