forgiveness:
My 23 man list for the world cup

GK

1. Vincent Enyeama
2. Daniel Akpeyi
3, Alampasu


DF

4. Leon Balogun
5, Elderson Echiejile
6, Troost Ekong
7, Awazeim
8, Shehu Abdullahi
9. Ola Aina
10. Tiago Ilori



MF

11. Mikel Obi
12. Joel Obi
13. Onazi Ogenyi
14. Wilfred Ndidi
15. Mikel Agu
16. Sone Aluko


Attack


17. Alex-iwobi
18. Ahmed Musa
19. Odion Ighalo
20. Victor Moses
21. Simon Moses
22. Kelechi Iheanacho
23.Kayode Olanrewaju


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TheGoodJoe:


Iheanacho was caged but with his precise and incisive movements, he created room for the team to shine. Earning praise from the Algerian's manager. That is not anonymous. Yet, just like you are doing now, you are criticising Nacho for playing well and trying to shield Ighalo for an even far worse performance. That is bias.

Mujtahida:

Ehen, na their wahala abi kennysville? The path to mining diamond is not easy but to type on nairaland passing judgment on those in the valley of doing the mining sure must easy. Na their wahala na.

TheGoodJoe:


In the game against Zambia when Rohr opted I think to pull out Iheanacho and replace with Kayode, that was when I noticed how limited his tactical and technical crew was. That was a wrong call.

I agree with Mickael2 that Rohr is limited tactically and his conservative approach (although we showed more bravery against Zambia) to the Camerounian game in Yaounde showed this too. My advice to Rohr is to get Amunike into his back room staff. I wonder why the NFF dropped Amunike. Just like how they dropped Shorunmu. The back room staff needs strengthening. Having more tactical depth to the side will give Rohr more options and even a more flexible approach to games.

kennysville:


Thats why I say its not by force. Easy or no easy decision, they will have to live with what happens afterwards. If you dont believe me, ask John Fashanu about his FA chairmanship aspirations

Mujtahida:

Caged, precise and incisive movements:What a contradiction!

Icon4s:


Against SA you meant.

In that game we were losing the midfield battle so bringing out a midfielder to introduce Kayode so we have two strikers upfont would only spell more doom. The problem in that game was that we were not getting enough balls to the lone striker (Iheanacho). Ihenacho seemed to have mobility issues in that game so Kayode a more mobile striker was brought in for Iheanocho. Also Kayode as we know is good at one on one situations which we needed at that point to get the goal due to the lack of balls as earlier stated

Substitutions depend a lot on balance of play. You saw what happened to Shakespeare's Leicester City against Arsenal when Iheanacho was introduced and a midfielder(forgotten his name) was pulled out, Leicester collapsed and Arsenal won.

It is not all the time that when you are chasing a game that you introduce a second striker. Some times you do a like for like, depending on the balance of play.

Icon4s:


Against SA you meant.

In that game we were losing the midfield battle so bringing out a midfielder to introduce Kayode so we have two strikers upfont would only spell more doom. The problem in that game was that we were not getting enough balls to the lone striker (Iheanacho). Ihenacho seemed to have mobility issues in that game so Kayode a more mobile striker was brought in for Iheanocho. Also Kayode as we know is good at one on one situations which we needed at that point to get the goal due to the lack of balls as earlier stated

Substitutions depend a lot on balance of play. You saw what happened to Shakespeare's Leicester City against Arsenal when Iheanacho was introduced and a midfielder(forgotten his name) was pulled out, Leicester collapsed and Arsenal won.

It is not all the time that when you are chasing a game that you introduce a second striker. Some times you do a like for like, depending on the balance of play.

TheGoodJoe:


Sorry. Against South Africa in Uyo.

Nacho did not have problems with mobility. Not at all. The problem we had was someone not making use of the advantage of Iheanacho's mobility. So why think of bringing mobility with Kayode? I do not even see Kayode as a more mobile forward.

The midfield was not the problem until the second half. What we needed was to sort the final ball with positional changes. That was absolutely wrong and the limitation of Rohr's technical crew and tactical depth showed.

Icon4s:


Against SA you meant.

In that game we were losing the midfield battle so bringing out a midfielder to introduce Kayode so we have two strikers upfont would only spell more doom. The problem in that game was that we were not getting enough balls to the lone striker (Iheanacho). Ihenacho seemed to have mobility issues in that game so Kayode a more mobile striker was brought in for Iheanocho. Also Kayode as we know is good at one on one situations which we needed at that point to get the goal due to the lack of balls as earlier stated

Substitutions depend a lot on balance of play. You saw what happened to Shakespeare's Leicester City against Arsenal when Iheanacho was introduced and a midfielder(forgotten his name) was pulled out, Leicester collapsed and Arsenal won.

It is not all the time that when you are chasing a game that you introduce a second striker. Some times you do a like for like, depending on the balance of play.

Mujtahida:

I shook my head when I read what he wrote. And talking about our game in Cameroun I don't see how his strategy was bad and I know that if we had won we would have trumped him up as a tactical genius. Against the game in Uyo, goodjoe was afraid that we'd pack the bus but was that what happened? Was that game goal to goal attacking foray? From the time we won Cameroun 4-0, the need to qualify became even tmore paramount and pressing to the extent that all that fancy set up no longer mattered. We've qualified, let's see how things pan out going forward.

TheGoodJoe:


Caged is when players combine to stop a player from having free chances to attack. However, within a cage, there is room for movements. See rats in a cage can still move. Nacho made movements that opened spaces for others to thrive.

TheGoodJoe:


That change by Shakespeare to pull out James for Iheanacho was wrong. The shape was alright. Shakespeare needed to pull out Vardy and give Nacho a shot with the chances coming.

What Rohr needed to do against SA was not to change the shape but personnel to get someone with the ability to give good passes to Nacho. Bringing Kayode in did not change personnel or shape. However, it did not solve the problem.

Icon4s:


Against SA you meant.

In that game we were losing the midfield battle so bringing out a midfielder to introduce Kayode so we have two strikers upfont would only spell more doom. The problem in that game was that we were not getting enough balls to the lone striker (Iheanacho). Ihenacho seemed to have mobility issues in that game so Kayode a more mobile striker was brought in for Iheanocho. Also Kayode as we know is good at one on one situations which we needed at that point to get the goal due to the lack of balls as earlier stated

Substitutions depend a lot on balance of play. You saw what happened to Shakespeare's Leicester City against Arsenal when Iheanacho was introduced and a midfielder(forgotten his name) was pulled out, Leicester collapsed and Arsenal won.

It is not all the time that when you are chasing a game that you introduce a second striker. Some times you do a like for like, depending on the balance of play.

Kog45:
True talk,tactically d two cannot be compared.I remember Bonfrere Jo was doing it tactically for Westerhoff but i don't know much of Rohr back room staff may be they are equal to d tasks.

Michael2 did u notice that there was little drama when Onazi got injured against Zambia,d original plan was for Aina to come in and Shehu Abdullahi move to d midfield but Rohr changed his mind and Agu came in but it nearly cost us in d 1st half-hour

Rohr need to improve on his conservative approach to games coz he is too predictable.

Icon4s:


By mobility issues I meant timing of runs.

Iheanacho was either running too early thereby being off or running late there by the ball being out of his reach.

Plus also Kayode is a very fast player. He is more pacy when in possession of the ball than Iheanacho.

Also Iheanacho seemed to have gassed out.

Mickael2:



in the game against SA we totally dominated the midfield, there goal was either a lucky break or a corner kick gone bad for us, pulling out Iheanacho made no sense whatsoever. The problems were with the final balls, at a time like that the coach will decide if he still wants to sub in a midfielder who can play defence splitting passes or sub in an attacker who can carry the ball from midfield to attack, Nacho had no business leaving that field

Icon4s:


See, the principle is same all across. You don't tamper with the set up of the team at random. If the team is not getting results you can chose to overhaul but when the team is getting results you try as much as possible to maintain shape so as not to lose balance. This is a simple principle in coaching.

I have worked with Westerhof (I learnt coaching from him) and I know what I mean by he not being much different from Rohr in terms of tactical approach to games and team selection.


If the NFF wants to get any of those coaches you listed then they should be ready to shoulder the huge financial responsibility. I have said it that Rohr, tactically is not amongst the bests but the other things he brings to the team have carried the team thus far.

Then also remember that Club football is different from national team football. And remember also that it took Westerhof 5 years to build that team that featured at the 1994 World Cup and I completely disagree with you that the current crop cannot dominate African opposition. We are working towards that and we will get there but remember also that football has generally progressed in Africa. You can hardly dominate for too long.

Mickael2:



i thought I was the only that saw it. A brilliant coach whilst sitting down on the touchline already knows how things can go wrong and how to sort it out but when Onazi was injured, Aina, Agu and even Ogu stood up and the coach didn't even know who was going to come into the game and there was a period he looked back and I think it was one of his nigerian assistants that said let's put Agu and we saw just how great that idea was. Rohr is not a tactician, Keshi, Siasia, Amuneke and even John Obuh would outclass him tactically, not to mention Westerhof

Icon4s:


By mobility issues I meant timing of runs.

Iheanacho was either running too early thereby being off or running late there by the ball being out of his reach.

Plus also Kayode is a very fast player. He is more pacy when in possession of the ball than Iheanacho.

Also Iheanacho seemed to have gassed out.

Mujtahida:
Kog45 when you say Rohr is conservative do you mean in terms of strategy or personel? Let me give you heads up:

On personel I trust you see that Rohr is bringing down the age limit of the team to the extent that we have one of the youngest teams in Africa? He is not radical yet he has thrown Agu into the mix three times ahead of Ogu

On tactics:Do you know that after we trashed Cameroun, Bassagog said that they knew how we used to play and they were set up to play us that way but that on match day we adopted a different strategy that confused them? And how come we scored 11 goals in a group called group of death.
Cc goodjoe, Icon4s, mickael2

Mujtahida:
Kog45 when you say Rohr is conservative do you mean in terms of strategy or personel? Let me give you heads up:

On personel I trust you see that Rohr is bringing down the age limit of the team to the extent that we have one of the youngest teams in Africa? He is not radical yet he has thrown Agu into the mix three times ahead of Ogu

On tactics:Do you know that after we trashed Cameroun, Bassagog said that they knew how we used to play and they were set up to play us that way but that on match day we adopted a different strategy that confused them? And how come we scored 11 goals in a group called group of death.
Cc goodjoe, Icon4s, mickael2

cromz:
naso everybody for this thread quickly forget this guy at least finally we have enough full back options.

blueto:
I have noticed this too. nacho's movements sometimes makes it difficult for players to get the ball to him. He suffered this at man city and someone here blamed it on city's attacking players, that they were trying to starve him of the ball. Lets say the truth, nacho does not have it as a CF, he may continue like this if he isn't played as a supporting striker or false 9.

jotey:

Don’t accept Tammy Abraham in
Eagles, Adelabu tells NFF



Tammy Abraham allegedly confirmed
two days ago that talks were on- going
with Nigeria shortly after scoring for
England

Former Green Eagles winger , Adegoke
Adelabu has advised the leadership of
the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF)
not to listen to England U- 21 forward ,
Tammy Abraham , following reports that
he has dropped another hint as regards
his interest in switching allegiance to
Nigeria after Super Eagles ’ qualification
for Russia 2018 World Cup .

During preparation for the Super
Eagles’ World Cup qualifier against
Zambia, NFF president, Amaju Pinnick
claimed that Chelsea striker Abraham,
who is on loan at Swansea , had
committed to declaring for Nigeria .

However , the 19 - year - old Abraham
quickly distanced himself from the
claims.

Now according to latest reports ,
Abraham allegedly confirmed two days
ago that talks were on - going with
Nigeria shortly after scoring for
England U- 21 in their 3 - 1 win over
Scotland . For Adelabu , the latest turn around by
Abraham should not be taken serious by
the NFF.

“ Tammy should stay away from
our national team. I want the NFF to use
him as an example to other junior
players, who feel that without them ,
Nigerian football won ’ t go anywhere .
Tammy has just realized that he might
not be part of England ’ s squad to the
World Cup in Russia , so he can quickly
make a u- turn to Nigeria. No way .

The
NFF must not listen to him. We have
enough players good to win the World
Cup if only the team is well prepared .”
According to the report , Abraham, who
has been ever present for the U- 21 s of
England that are top of their Euro 2019
qualifying group, liked and commented
on a video posted by Alex Iwobi on
Instagram.

https://m.guardian.ng/sport/dont-accept-tammy-abraham-in-eagles-adelabu-tells-nff/

Mickael2:



one by one.


How is throwing Agu in before Ogu and Etebo a sign of tactical knowhow? It's a clear case of favouritism(in Forgiveness' voice). That is even more reason why we have to agree that he is limited tactically.

How is what Bassogog said relevant? They thought we would come out to play football because Nigeria over the ages can never start playing a defensive game because of Cameroon. Meanwhile it was only Bassagog that came out to say something like that, no doubt to save his own face after an abysmal showing, that was not a tactical move by Rohr one bit.

And when the opponents came with an equally strong tactics what did we do? Yeah we scored none and conceeded two

Mujtahida:
THROWBACK

It's like forgiveness has infected me with this foreign born virus. Safarigirl here's your boy(though it's old news but it gives us insight into what might be.
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HOW ROHR CONVINCED ME TO DUMP BELGIUM FOR SUPER EAGLES-Dessers

Ifreke Inyang
3 months ago

Cyril Dessers has revealed details of his conversation with Super Eagles head coach, Gernot Rohr, which convinced him to opt for Nigeria instead of Beligum.

Dessers says Rohr told him in clear teams to pledge his allegiance to Nigeria, if he wants to challenged the likes of Kelechi Iheanacho, Alex Iwobi, Ahmed Musa and Olanrewaju Kayode, for a spot in the national team.

The 22-year-old accepted the German tactician’s challenged and has already voiced his preference for the Eagles.

“Kelechi Iheanacho and Ahmed Musa are the two undisputed men in my position, not forgetting Olarewaju Kayode who plays for Austria Wien. After them there’s a spot. I did had contact with the coach some few weeks back and he advise me to take a step higher. Hence my move to Utrecht to prove myself worthy of selection for Nigeria,” he told Sports/Football Magazine.

“I will be happy to play for either Nigeria or Belgium, but playing for Belgium is a little bit complicated, as all the strikers in front of me above 30 years and might all leave in the next three years, I would have been patient for an opportunity, but that is not the case.

“The World Cup 2018 is around the corner. If I score 20 goals for Utrecht and one of the strikers missed out through injury, I might have a chance. I hope my dream of wearing the Nigeria shirt draws near in few months time.”

Source:https://www.google.com.ng/amp/dailypost.ng/2017/07/04/rohr-convinced-dump-belgium-super-eagles-dessers/amp/

jotey:

Don’t accept Tammy Abraham in
Eagles, Adelabu tells NFF



Tammy Abraham allegedly confirmed
two days ago that talks were on- going
with Nigeria shortly after scoring for
England

Former Green Eagles winger , Adegoke
Adelabu has advised the leadership of
the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF)
not to listen to England U- 21 forward ,
Tammy Abraham , following reports that
he has dropped another hint as regards
his interest in switching allegiance to
Nigeria after Super Eagles ’ qualification
for Russia 2018 World Cup .

During preparation for the Super
Eagles’ World Cup qualifier against
Zambia, NFF president, Amaju Pinnick
claimed that Chelsea striker Abraham,
who is on loan at Swansea , had
committed to declaring for Nigeria .

However , the 19 - year - old Abraham
quickly distanced himself from the
claims.

Now according to latest reports ,
Abraham allegedly confirmed two days
ago that talks were on - going with
Nigeria shortly after scoring for
England U- 21 in their 3 - 1 win over
Scotland . For Adelabu , the latest turn around by
Abraham should not be taken serious by
the NFF.

“ Tammy should stay away from
our national team. I want the NFF to use
him as an example to other junior
players, who feel that without them ,
Nigerian football won ’ t go anywhere .
Tammy has just realized that he might
not be part of England ’ s squad to the
World Cup in Russia , so he can quickly
make a u- turn to Nigeria. No way .

The
NFF must not listen to him. We have
enough players good to win the World
Cup if only the team is well prepared .”
According to the report , Abraham, who
has been ever present for the U- 21 s of
England that are top of their Euro 2019
qualifying group, liked and commented
on a video posted by Alex Iwobi on
Instagram.

https://m.guardian.ng/sport/dont-accept-tammy-abraham-in-eagles-adelabu-tells-nff/

Mujtahida:

Hahahaha hahahaha, jotey my man. Make I go look for news of somebody wey say make Tammy play for us.