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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:59am On Oct 12, 2017 |
daveP: Even without kicking a ball? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:05pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Kog45: It seems Rohr doesn't trust some of the players in the team but somehow he had to invite them. Why and how is what I don't know. That was why he said he was going to bring in better players 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:09pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Kog45:Thanks Kog45. Your points are finely weighted. I just wanted to draw you guys out and hear your opinions. Actually when I read Rohr's CV online I wasn't impressed regarding his performance with African teams. I very well remember those two quick fire goals from TJ at the Quarter finals of Afcon 2000. I am more concerned about springing surprises in the midfield because I see Iwobi being more deadly for us in the middle than from the wings. Truth is almost all our players apart from Echiejile, the GK and Ighalo can play more than one position. All that remains is for winning formula(s) that would bring out the best in the team. I must say I enjoyed reading this piece. It was like an article in a sports magazine. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:17pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
forgiveness:So it seems (shrugs) besides rem his russian career. just saying. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 12:19pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Wenger Sends Congratulation Message To Nigerians : Our Player Scored The Goal For You Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has sent a congratulation message to Nigerians and supporters of the Super Eagles on qualifying for the 2018 World Cup. And the Frenchman was extremely pleased that one of his pupils, Alex Iwobi, scored the most important goal of his career to date in Saturday's game with Zambia, which sealed Nigeria's place at the World Cup. ''Good morning. Congratulations to all our fans in Nigeria. I know that there are very, very, very many of you and we are very proud that you have qualified for the World Cup,'' said Wenger in a video posted by Arsenal on their Facebook page. ''On top of that, our player scored the goal for you and that makes us ever prouder. ''Well done, and see you in the World Cup. I am sure you will have a great, great trip there.'' Iwobi, who was in action for 24 minutes against Zambia, has returned to the English capital ahead of the Gunners' Premier League match with Watford at The Vic on Saturday. **Ifeanyi Emmanuel source: http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=24985 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 12:22pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
forgiveness:wheere is he going to bring the better players from? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:35pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
daveP: Ok. Fingers crossed until January/February when things become clearer. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:37pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Napoleon55: From the la Liga, Bundesliga, Seria A, EPL, Pro league and Eredivise. Are you aware? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:38pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Napoleon55: Ask Rohr. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 12:39pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
These rumors of Tammy making a u-turn, is it based on him liking his Iwobi instagram post or what? Because if it is, then it's ridiculous. Nothing's changed with Tammy. He is not playing for Nigeria. Time to move on. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:40pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
jihday:I marvel at the comparison. Note also that Leow was assistant to Jurgen Klinsmann for two years. Meanwhile all- except about three or so -of the players that played Germany's last match at the quarter finals stage against Spain where still part of the team that played at the WC in Brazil. The German team is just now beginning to moult(gradual phasing out of the old guard) and the transition is not noticeable in terms of performance because of what you mentioned regarding the template for football across all ages. In fact what we are seeing in Germany is a product of the revolution brought to German football by Jurgen Klinsmann beginning from 2004. And that is the country against whom a coach appointed last year is being compared with. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:53pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
edi287:It is oo. Don't mind owngoalnigeria.com making it sound official. I seriously don't see that guy playing for us. As for that Dessers, I have watched his videos, he's quick, uses both legs and good in the air too but I don't know if he would be able to cut it at a higher level. But he's a more viable option for us than Tammy. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:53pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Dele Alli Father brought him to Nigeria as a youngster about 8/9 years old on holiday. His English mother was an alcoholic, his Father ended the relationship and things became even worse with her addiction. Dele Father then left England and married another Naija woman in the US. Relocated and by implication abandoning his children. Not long after matters deteriorated so very badly that the children including Dele had to go into care. THE WORST CASE SCENARIO for a child it would have been soul destroying and extremely traumatic. You have a father and you are in foster care, it's just the bottom of the pit. Many children get abused and never ever recover. Under no circumstances should a father allow his children to go into care, it's unforgivable. The damage to the children almost irretrievable. Thank God he was blessed with very good white foster parents who filled the painful void. He considers them his parents now. What do you want Dele to feel for his father, undying unquestionable love and affection Add to that what should he feel for Nigeria If people could feel the burden I carry sometimes for the children of useless Nigerian fathers I'm sorry to say. Most if you will not talk like this. Try and empathise the depth if trauma and stop being so judgemental. I say it again we have had opportunities to create relationships over the long term but we don't when they make it we then want to know them. How you treat someone who has nothing is your true character. D 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:53pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
bros on the bolded westerhof struggled against this same zambia you are using as a yardstick. remember the 1994 AFCON? what makes your argument worse is that the particular zambian team was a hurriedly assembled one for that matter. i also remember reading one interview of late stephen keshi where he said clemens wasn't the greatest tactically and he should know better since he played under him. now regarding rohr's tactically ability i would still give him 60% his use of subs have been here and there. his use mikel agu in place of ogu and etebo puzzled me personally. overall though its been a long time i've seen the super eagles play with such intensity and cutting edge. iwobi's goal is a case in point how many times have you seen nigeria score such a goal after an unbroken sequence of passes? to do it in such a high pressure match is even more impressive. based on the quality of players available to him i think rohr has really gotten the best out of them Mickael2: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:58pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
komekn:Komekn you didn't understand what I wrote about Dele Alli. Please read it again and you will see my point. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:59pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: you see what team being built? The one that will lose to SA at home? We have NO team without these guys, atleast for now we don't. Is Ogu not also a rookie? How many international caps does he have? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:01pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
chrisooblog: like I said before which you tactfully tried to ignore, there is a big difference between playing against Zambia in a match that they must win and in an Afcon final. Did you watch that 1994 final? Please Oga Icon4s tell my bro here if we struggled in that match |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 1:03pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Rohr isn't a tactical mastermind like a Pep, but he knows how to set up his team properly into a solid unit. Personally I think the game where he really goofed was the SA game. He got 95 percent of everything wrong. The Mikel Agu sub against Zambia wasn't as stupid as we think...all Rohr did was push Ndidi to Onazi position to win the ball high up front while leaving Agu to mop things up in front of the defence. Unlike the SA game, we had Leon who could bring the ball out of defence and Agu dropping back to cover him and or fullbacks when they bombed forward. Anyways, one thing is for certain - if Rohr stays for 4 - 5 years, he'll definitely leave a very solid foundation behind for us like Westerhof did. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:03pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mickael2:So losing at home has destroyed to pieces the idea of building a team. Is that how you operate? You set a goal, you try once, you fail, you quit? And Westerhof was all victory from the beginning abi? One rookie is more rookie than the other plus age and exposure which Ogu has more than Agu. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 1:05pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
chrisooblog:The Mikel Agu sub isn't that bad. Mikel Agu was simply nervous but managed to recover afterwards. Etebo wouldn't have been able to replicate Onazi ball winning abilities upfront(which Ndidi sort of did) while Ogu's lack of mobility might have been an issue if he played deep. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:07pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: this is how you all blow things out of proportion. I was merely pointing out that Low and Klinsman are all tactically astute german managers unlike Rohr. Also do you think the german team established a bonafide second eleven by playing the same team over and over again? I mean you don't change a winning team right? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 1:08pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Yeah I like Dessers too. He plays like a south American striker. I hope Rohr calls him up against Algeria. Mumu owngoalnigeria don't know they're making things worse with these dumb articles. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:09pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: no we don't pull down and start afresh, however when you watch our game against before that SA match and then the game after that SA match you will notice the stark difference in quality, why? Because of those three guys I named who were all missing. A rookie is a rookie 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 1:10pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mickael2:Klinsmann isn't THAT tactically astute. If anything, I'd say he's equal to Rohr or SLIGHTLY better. Klinsmann just plays structured attacking football. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:11pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:Maybe considering where he is coming from as in his club. Shehu seems to be a very determined guy sha. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:13pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mujtahida: I am not contending just expanding on what you said for others to appreciate the different dynamics affecting some of our boys of Nigerian parentage. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:16pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
yes i watched the game zambians scored a goal few minutes in we roared back. we were dominating them through okocha's inspired play removed JJ to go defensive midfield almost completely collapsed. zambians troubled us through kalusha bwalya for the final few minutes. zambians have always been competitive against us which results over the years have shown so it was wrong using them as a yardstick. just accept you goofed there then we can move on to other aspects of this discussion Mickael2: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 1:18pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Tactically, except we are fooling ourselves, Rohr is an average Coach. He's a kinda Coach that so much believe in Players discipline and commitment on the Pitch. A kinda Coach that would psyche up his Players to get the job done anyhow they deem fit. If we really wanna excel in Russia, I think a tactically sound Assistant Manager needs to be hired to replace Salisu Yusuf. On the Players selection for the World Cup; I think the List made by Forgiveness is almost perfect, except Ezenwa should replace Akpeyi, and Ogu makes way for Ajagun. Onazi, Ndidi, Agu, Joel Obi, even Mikel Obi and Etebo can play either DMF or CM, hence at least a natural AM is needed in the Team. I wouldn't mind if Nwakali is listed for the Tourney to understudy the Senior Colleagues at the expense of Joel/Agu. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:19pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
forgiveness: There are some things that are without contention. To play for a top club you have to be a top player. Top clubs are in the top leagues. What are the top leagues Where should we be looking at possible options. If you are not playing first team football should you be in consideration ceteris paribus. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:24pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
bossto: Some of those players are on the fringe of the first team in thier clubs. Until we test them in friendlies caithness other options I am not sold on some of them. Shockingly for some I guess, I would like to see Obagoal. He's cutting it in the Chinese league so why not. I have question marks on❓ Musa Omeruo Echiejile Awaziem |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:25pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
ezenwa in place of akpeyi. he has been forged in fire and found not wanting. tiago ilori LOOOOL . etebo and ogu to replace agu and aluko. if musa continues with his poor club form aluko/onyekuru/bonaventure to fight for his place forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:28pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
chrisooblog: Tiago Ilori for me non starter. I could be biased but I've seen him up close and personal and he didn't cut after so many chances at Liverpool. |
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