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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:39am On Oct 19, 2017
Those 4 players you mentioned are very different.

Mickael2:



I see wisdom in your post. Uche's style of play as a 9 is essential the same with Nacho's style of play, Ighalo's style and Tammy's style are almost the same too. So invite all four to camp, check which one of them is the best from each style using some friendly games and training sessions, choose the best from each style and from the remaining two decide who is best suited for the final spot in the team and we are good to go
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:39am On Oct 19, 2017
Those 4 players you mentioned are very different from eachother .

Mickael2:



I see wisdom in your post. Uche's style of play as a 9 is essential the same with Nacho's style of play, Ighalo's style and Tammy's style are almost the same too. So invite all four to camp, check which one of them is the best from each style using some friendly games and training sessions, choose the best from each style and from the remaining two decide who is best suited for the final spot in the team and we are good to go
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:39am On Oct 19, 2017
Those 4 players you mentioned are very different from each other .

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Mickael2:



I see wisdom in your post. Uche's style of play as a 9 is essential the same with Nacho's style of play, Ighalo's style and Tammy's style are almost the same too. So invite all four to camp, check which one of them is the best from each style using some friendly games and training sessions, choose the best from each style and from the remaining two decide who is best suited for the final spot in the team and we are good to go
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:42am On Oct 19, 2017
Humility017:


yeah...you're right I remember the case of anichebe...who score so much goals during the age grade times...

but I believe he should be tried elsewhere in the wings....

Anichebe's problems started with his first major injury fractured leg in a game.

He was a lot closer to Yak who was probably a lot more friendlier with the young Nigerian origin players in Everton.

He then started to beef up with muscle bulk almost trying to replicate the Yak. All that muscle has resulted in never ending injury issues. When he plays unstoppable but unfortunately he doesn't play much injury upon injury very sad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:50am On Oct 19, 2017
I was replying to your earlier mention of Onomah and co. I was just saying Aluko is older, and as regards the likes of Onomah, how many youngy we wan carry go world cup? Realistically, I don't think half of them can dislodge current SE players.. but well let's not have another round of argument on that. Back to Aluko, he wasn't impressive in the EPL, but I agree he gave a good account of himself in SE colors. If he's not got a recall, it's simply because I thin Rohr does not consider the Championship as a top league. How many players has he gone for in the Championship? Aina's case is different. We all know he had a couple games for Chelsea before he was loaned.

komekn:


Aluko is not that Old, 28 is not old and it's not just football age. If to say dem born am for Warri he would be only 22/23 No shakin.

Arguably one of the most technically gifted players in the championship. Who did not play ball with NFF officials and a particular very hungry coach that's why he was shamelessly frozen out when he was playing for Hull in the EPL.

Why do you think he has not been invited, who is actually proven, tested and better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:52am On Oct 19, 2017
Humility017:

you write true...though only that...those names you put up there....I believe should only be invited to train wit the SE after the world cup....except aluko...
the rest should wait after the world cup...they're no miles better than the ones we have now...players who laboured and sweat to see us qualify for the world cup should not be dropped for players in same par.....

moreover I still do agree on your stance on Tammy.....he should be given a straight walk into the SE......
but the pressure on that kid is way too much...the English FA won't let him go without a fight....

you and I know of how much effort pinnick have made thus far......

They should be invited now go to camp play a few friendlies and let's see who is best or better. You need a squad of at least 35 quality players to pick your final 23 from.

There will be drop outs before the WC 2018 injury and loss of form, etc.

But let's not be sentimental let the best players go. For instance irrespective if what Echiejile has done he for me is a very weak link. A link that any top team will exploit to our detriment.

In this regard I looked at Seyi Ojo to be a left back who can play left wing and left sided midfield depending on formation, if the need arises.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:55am On Oct 19, 2017
Norwich tried hard to have him return before this current season, but he turned them down for Ipswich.

komekn:


It's a strange one really, I met one of the agents heavily involved at Norwich and they didn't rate him that much. They did say he was studying for his degree and in the end he was released at Norwich.

Now he is playing for a very A typical English Manager at Ipswich where technical football is not on the main menu.

I will because of you and my desire to see Dominic Iorfa see both of them live in the coming weeks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:57am On Oct 19, 2017
Joebie:
Nobody denied that
I know.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:04pm On Oct 19, 2017
Joebie:
I was replying to your earlier mention of Onomah and co. I was just saying Aluko is older, and as regards the likes of Onomah, how many youngy we wan carry go world cup? Realistically, I don't think half of them can dislodge current SE players.. but well let's not have another round of argument on that. Back to Aluko, he wasn't impressive in the EPL, but I agree he gave a good account of himself in SE colors. If he's not got a recall, it's simply because I thin Rohr does not consider the Championship as a top league. How many players has he gone for in the Championship? Aina's case is different. We all know he had a couple games for Chelsea before he was loaned.


He Aluko was impressive on Hull for a essentially a kick and rush team. Was voted as one of the best players in the championship. Fulham narrowly missed out on promotion. He went to Reading for £ 7.5 million that's a big price tag for a 28 year old.

Onomah has played more games for Tottenham than Aina has played for Chelsea. In front of Onomah are World class midfielders such as Wanyama, Sissoko, Dembele, Dier, Lamela, Eriksen, etc

Onomah has played nearly all games this season for Villa where he is on loan scoring twice. Very effective and disciplined midfielder with great vision and and a good passing ability. He is the anchor man for Englands U21. Even scored a wonder goal for England.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:12pm On Oct 19, 2017
komekn:


Anichebe's problems started with his first major injury fractured leg in a game.

He was a lot closer to Yak who was probably a lot more friendlier with the young Nigerian origin players in Everton.

He then started to beef up with muscle bulk almost trying to replicate the Yak. All that muscle has resulted in never ending injury issues. When he plays unstoppable but unfortunately he doesn't play much injury upon injury very sad.
thanks for this....sometimes I wonder why could a young player could be so infested wit injuries...same case wit Joel obi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:19pm On Oct 19, 2017
TheGoodJoe talking about Rohr inviting a pool of players for camping before the world cup.. Who to invite is still a problem o.. I've tried to put together an encompassing pool. I know somebody will still complain his player is missing.. That kind arrangement go cause confusion for camp hahaha

oya take a look at this:

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:20pm On Oct 19, 2017
komekn:


He Aluko was impressive on Hull for a essentially a kick and rush team. Was voted as one of the best players in the championship. Fulham narrowly missed out on promotion. He went to Reading for £ 7.5 million that's a big price tag for a 28 year old.

Onomah has played more games for Tottenham than Aina has played for Chelsea. In front of Onomah are World class midfielders such as Wanyama, Sissoko, Dembele, Dier, Lamela, Eriksen, etc

Onomah has played nearly all games this season for Villa where he is on loan scoring twice. Very effective and disciplined midfielder with great vision and and a good passing ability. He is the anchor man for Englands U21. Even scored a wonder goal for England.
that's a nice one...
sir...bringing in this players to displace the present SE players will not make good for our system...
I understand....you dont make selections base on sentiments...but sometimes you do things for posterity sake...why displace those players who labored to get the qualification ticket for young blood...who are only at same par....

onomah is no way better than Mikel, etebo.
likewise he can't offer defensively like onazi and ndidi and even mikel agu....

so he should be called up after the world cup....and not now...

right now...we need good and hungry defenders and strikers...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:25pm On Oct 19, 2017
Joebie:
TheGoodJoe talking about Rohr inviting a pool of players for camping before the world cup.. Who to invite is still a problem o.. I've tried to put together an encompassing pool. I know somebody will still complain his player is missing.. That kind arrangement go cause confusion for camp hahaha

oya take a look at this:
you tried...but I see you putting in some players just to please some persons here....
you and I know...some of those players you put their names up there won't smell SE invitation let alone make the world cup provisional list.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:36pm On Oct 19, 2017
that's why I used the word encompassing. No matter how hard I try, somebody's player will still be missing.. So it's impossible to please everybody. Just trying to fault the pool idea..

Humility017:

you tried...but I see you putting in some players just to please some persons here....
you and I know...some of those players you put their names up there won't smell SE invitation let alone make the world cup provisional list.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:36pm On Oct 19, 2017
komekn:




That's not a big fat lie


I disagree with it but it's your opinion.

I withdraw with humble pie apology my earlier assertion. As not the right diction to use.

No wahala. Are you following the Eni Aluko situation?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:39pm On Oct 19, 2017
He wasn't impressive in the EPL by level standards. It's just like making excuses for Iheanacho now. I know you wouldn't do that.. Like I said I don't think Rohr's radar is in the Championship. Just my feeling though.

komekn:


He Aluko was impressive on Hull for a essentially a kick and rush team. Was voted as one of the best players in the championship. Fulham narrowly missed out on promotion. He went to Reading for £ 7.5 million that's a big price tag for a 28 year old.

Onomah has played more games for Tottenham than Aina has played for Chelsea. In front of Onomah are World class midfielders such as Wanyama, Sissoko, Dembele, Dier, Lamela, Eriksen, etc

Onomah has played nearly all games this season for Villa where he is on loan scoring twice. Very effective and disciplined midfielder with great vision and and a good passing ability. He is the anchor man for Englands U21. Even scored a wonder goal for England.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:41pm On Oct 19, 2017
i'm not sure what's really going on.. The former coach made a humorous racist remark but is not racist? What exactly is the verdict?

tbaba1234:


No wahala. Are you following the Eni Aluko situation?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:49pm On Oct 19, 2017
Joebie:
that's why I used the word encompassing. No matter how hard I try, somebody's player will still be missing.. So it's impossible to please everybody. Just trying to fault the pool idea..

yeah I understand....
just that I would have love it more...if you were frank and more sincere in respective of whose ass is goared..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:54pm On Oct 19, 2017
Mickael2:



the guy has been very good which is why when theGoodJoe said he isn't fast I was left confused, the same Azeez that plays for Lugo? The guy has a nice passing range, he isn't the most flashy but he does his work with diligence. Watching him I think he can play both the CMF and DMF role very well, beats me how he is playing for Lugo

Do you think Lugo can get promotion to the laliga?

Azeez almost joined Swansea but Almeria blocked him, and when he tried to see out his contract, they demoted him to the feeder team for the whole season until he gave in to renew his contract.


http://thelightnews.com/almeria-blocking-ramon-azeez-epl-move/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:54pm On Oct 19, 2017
Joebie:
i'm not sure what's really going on.. The former coach made a humorous racist remark but is not racist? What exactly is the verdict?


Eni Aluko has been vindicated. It has been proven that he did make racist remarks against her. The FA tried to cover it up and she faced a lot of backlash.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:27pm On Oct 19, 2017
To be sincere, if we were to give 4 slots to each position, I think all the players deserve to be there based on what we have available. There are still some slots to spare.. Not to say the players are all that good.

Humility017:

yeah I understand....
just that I would have love it more...if you were frank and more sincere in respective of whose ass is goared..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:28pm On Oct 19, 2017
Well somebody said the guy is not racist but he made racist remarks that were humor intended.. that's what they are known for
tbaba1234:


Eni Aluko has been vindicated. It has been proven that he did make racist remarks against her. The FA tried to cover it up and she faced a lot of backlash.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:30pm On Oct 19, 2017
DrKlever:
I will choose Ighalo from cat 1, then Iheanacho and Tammy Abraham from cat 3. i don't fancy any player in category 2

Good. You don't need to fancy any player in category 2.

If I have my way, Ighalo or Martins in category 1

Kayode Olanrewaju in category 2 and Tammy Abraham in category 3. grin

If Tammy Abraham is not available then Iheanacho. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 1:52pm On Oct 19, 2017
TB, do you know something we don't know? Has the NFF released the invite list for Algeria? Or are you making these projections without even knowing who would be invited?

As regards to your projections, I will expect to see Aina, Etebo, and Ogu start, but I am not too sure about Ebuehi and Onyekuru. Ebuehi may come off the bench though. And something tells me that Awazien might start that game. Mark my words.


O pari

tbaba1234:
Onyekuru adds unpredictability to Nigeria. Similar to Victor Moses. I think, he can be an important part of our world cup campaign.

For Algeria,

Starting Line-up

Ezenwa(Currently number 1 and deservedly)
Aina LB
Balogun
Ekong (Oyinbo wall is the most likely WC defensive partnership, the more they play together, the better)
Ebuehi (Time to justify your invites)
Onazi (Back to fitness, always ready to do a job)
Etebo (has not been seen in recent games, time to come back to reckoning)
Ogu (Another one that needs to justify invites)
Onyekuru (To add offensive bite)
Iwobi
Ighalo
(In better form than Kelechi)

The team above can beat Algeria away. I think it is a fine blend of experimentation and blending players into the team.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:56pm On Oct 19, 2017
forgiveness:


Do you think Lugo get promotion to the laliga?

Azeez almost joined Swansea but Almeria blocked him, and when he tried to see out his contract, they demoted him to the feeders team for the whole season until he gave him to renew his contract.


http://thelightnews.com/almeria-blocking-ramon-azeez-epl-move/


they have not only been very good at home, they have also been very good away. There second game I watched was away to Barcelona B(I was watching the game because of some Barca academy players tbh), I thought it was a sure win for Barca and Barca scored first, somehow they turned it and won the game in the last 5minutes. Their last match too against Alcocorn was away from home and they put in a solid performance, it's not like they were lucky. For 90mins they held their own and nicked it again at the death, I think they may be the best team in the division which is why I said they would hold Gent. With Swansea's recent poor form, buying that guy should be one of their easiest decisions right now
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 1:57pm On Oct 19, 2017
Baba, I was just making projections sha .... I couldn't find any sources grin

But I think you may correct that the other countries are to be potted according to their confederations, after the top 8 seeds. I don't know how I feel about that tho; in theory, it ought to favor Nigeria but you gotta reckon with all the politics and manipulations in FIFA. They might cease that opportunity to manipulate the draws.


O pari

Icon4s:


May I ask the source of these pots?

After the Top 8 seeded teams, the other countries are to be potted according to their confederations and not FIFA rankings.

Eg all African teams are to be in one pot with some teams from another confederation to make it up to 8 teams.

Lastly, how can Tunisia and DR Congo who are both justling for one ticket both be in the draws?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 1:58pm On Oct 19, 2017
please what's the date and time for the Algeria Nigeria match
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:58pm On Oct 19, 2017
Joebie:
I was replying to your earlier mention of Onomah and co. I was just saying Aluko is older, and as regards the likes of Onomah, how many youngy we wan carry go world cup? Realistically, I don't think half of them can dislodge current SE players.. but well let's not have another round of argument on that. Back to Aluko, he wasn't impressive in the EPL, but I agree he gave a good account of himself in SE colors. If he's not got a recall, it's simply because I thin Rohr does not consider the Championship as a top league. How many players has he gone for in the Championship? Aina's case is different. We all know he had a couple games for Chelsea before he was loaned.


I have a had a lot of heated discussion on this topic.

Belgium league is rated 8, Turkish 10 and the Dutch 11.

The Bundesliga for me is characterised by the complete dominance Of Bayern followed by Dortmund. It's not as competitive as the EPL in my opinion.

With regards to the Belgium league it's a lot easier to score goals because again its not as competitive as the EPL. Consider how many top World class players play in the Belgium and Turkish leagues and how many in the EPL. That's another indicative yardstick for quality.

When we then get to the European Champions league everyone raises thier game just like the English FA cup. Tottenham played Real Madrid and it was a draw they could have won the game. But over all Tottenham is not better than Real Madrid.

In this regard I rate the English championship better than the Belgium, Austrian, Dutch and Turkish leagues. That doesn't mean there are not quality players thier but they would have to be the best in that league to be considered top quality.

For instance Dele Alli, Gomez, Ademola,
Galleries all left league 1 straight to the premiership.

If that's Rohr view that the championship is not good enough quality then he is very mistaken and out of touch. The championship is the first stepping stone to the EPL.

Oliver Burke left Nottingham forest fc to Liepzig in the Bundesliga, who are currently number three in the Bundesliga currently.

If you are a top player in the championship you are ready for the EPL. And if a team is struggling in the EPL after relegation and season later. You will be in League one. That's the story of Wigan, Bolton, Wolves and many others. Consider Sunderland after being relegated from the EPL last season are now at the bottom of the Championship in the relegation zone.

It shows the depth of competition in the English championship.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:59pm On Oct 19, 2017
Joebie:
Well somebody said the guy is not racist but he made racist remarks that were humor intended.. that's what they are known for


Yes, the guy has even come out to tell the whole world that he would still invite her to future games if need be. I think this whole issue started from the coach overlooking her and then some new dimensions were added, nothing serious really
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by femianski: 2:20pm On Oct 19, 2017
MetalJigsaw:
please what's the date and time for the Algeria Nigeria match
this will be the first Nigerian competitive Match I will watch without high blood pressure

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:23pm On Oct 19, 2017
same way your opinions about ajagun are also inconsequential.

you talk about facts?! same person who claimed to have gone to national stadium surulere to watch nigeria matches during afcon and said fans never threw missiles at our players you now want to talk about facts? you are really funny
forgiveness:


Your opinions are inconsequential because they lack merit and facts. grin

Bring it on with facts. No talk talk without facts. grin

Show facts.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:27pm On Oct 19, 2017
yes she has i'm sure her silly team mates who were jumping all over coach sampson recently in a match as a sign of support after they scored a goal will have eggs over their faces now
tbaba1234:


Eni Aluko has been vindicated. It has been proven that he did make racist remarks against her. The FA tried to cover it up and she faced a lot of backlash.

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