BERNIMOORE:
Was it an "increase" a basis that constitutes tithe as commanded, you admitted that tithe is on increase
tell us how the Abrams tithe "recorded" still fits into what you admitted above. Limit your comments to Abraham's only for clarity That is "tenth part of increase" What is Abraham Capital, what constitutes his profit of which 10% was removed and given as a tithe? Remember that tithe is NOT 10% of capital but rather 10% of profit

Tithes is on increase / profits.
I will not stick to only Abraham's story because that story isn't the perfect example. The major thing I highlighted there is that priests outside the tribe of Levi have lawfully received tithes. Abraham voluntarily gave tithes of all as an appreciation to God for granting him a huge victory. He recovered all that was taken from the Sodomites and gave a tenth part to God out of gratitude. He later returned the remaining 90% to the king of Sodom and took only what the men ate during the journey and war. He could have decided to take part of it. But he didn't. It doesn't mean that he didn't have a right over them.
Now Jacob didn't go to war but wanted God's blessing and voluntarily vowed to give a tenth part of whatsoever God gives him. God saw his sincere heart and blessed him. That's the perfect tithe that is sacred to God in the later days of the israélites.

MrPristine:


I don't need to read the whole thread cause I have done extensive studies on tithes, written several articles on it, studied all the over forty verses in the bible that tithes is mentioned and I have been debating this tithe issue for over fifteen years so there is absolutely nothing about biblical tithes that I don't know. I can tell you with all confidence that tithes is not applicable to Christians except you want to twist scriptures and misapply it to Christians.

The bible never condemned tithing in the NT nor OT. The law has changed, yet the law of tithing wasn’t condemned. The parts that needs to be changed have been changed, the parts not condemned still stands.

BERNIMOORE:
hardasan I am waiting for your replies to the bolded below

His army and wining the war is his capital that entitles him to increase / spoils of victory.

Peacefullove:


Clearly, its not neccesary today too

Apostles did. not collect tithes , Church is not feeding them. if that was the case Paul would not say he work with his hands as Tent maker .

Yet it was apostle Paul who said :

1 Corinthians 9:13-14

Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel

hardasan:


Tithes is on increase / profits.
I will not stick to only Abraham's story because that story isn't the perfect example.because

.you are Unable to establish how profit was derived from the possessions recovered, tithe cannot be paid from 10% of possessions but rather 10% OF PROFIT

BERNIMOORE:
.you are Unable to establish how profit was derived from the possessions recovered, tithe cannot be paid from 10% of possessions but rather 10% OF PROFIT

You just stubbornly refused to understand anything outside your opinion.
His army and wining the war is his capital that entitles him to increase / spoils of victory. Having won the war, he recovered all the goods from the defeated enemies. That is his profit. Him returning them after the tithe was voluntary just as giving tithe from them was voluntary.

hardasan:
I just refuse to keep quiet while Christians are brainwashed by anybody.

I want to quote Malachi Ch 3 v 7 - 12 while highlighting verse 10

Malachi 3:7-12King James Version (KJV)

7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.

12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts.

Here the bible plainly said in verse 8: " Yet ye have robbed me, But ye say where in. Have we robbed thee? "
The bible answered : "In tithes and offerings"

Verse 9 says: Ye are cursed for ye have robbed me. It didn't say ye are cursed for not eating your tithe or ye are cursed for paying to a pastor and not into heaven's bank account directly from the earth.

Verse 10 gives a direct instruction: Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse. It didn't say eat ye all the tithes in front of the storehouse or give ye all the tithes to the poor and widows.
In the biblical days, payments could be by precious stones or commodities. That's why trade by barter markets existed in the days of my grandparents before currencies became the order of the day. Now, 99.9% of people earn currencies not livestock or commodities, so it's normal that we pay tithe in cash.

Verse 11 is a promise by God to bless anyone who obeys this instruction of tithing

John ch 12 talks about Jesus being anointed for his burial with a very expensive ointment, Judas asked why the costly ointment wasn't sold and given to the poor instead of " wasting it"
Jesus said in verse 8: For the poor always ye have with you ; but me ye have not always

Matthew ch 10 vs 40 - 41, Jesus promised to. Reward those who are kind or who gives as little as a cup of cold water to his servants

Ever wondered why Jesus picked out the widow in Mark ch 12 vs 42 for giving her all since he doesn't care about our offering ?

Or why the Holy Ghost killed Ananias and Sapphira for keeping part of the money gotten from the sales of their own land in Acts ch 5 vs 1 - 11 if God doesn't care about our tithes and offerings.

Take heed that no wolf in sheep's clothing deceives you. God commanded tithing and offerings. If you want to pay yours when you get to heaven, that's your business, but don't go about stumbling people Christ died for cus it will be better for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for you.

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hardasan:


You just stubbornly refused to understand anything outside your opinion.
His army and wining the war is his capital that entitles him to increase / spoils of victory. Having won the war, he recovered all the goods from the defeated enemies. That is his profit. Him returning them(the goods=PROFIT) after the tithe was voluntary just as giving tithe from them was voluntary.

(italics are mine)

Returning 90% HIS PROFIT (goods; increase / spoils of victory ) after the tithe10% IS THAT THE WAY MELCHIZEDECK PRIESTHOOD you claim DIRECTS CHRISTIANS TODAY TO TITHE? that is after tithe, No profit, All christians must be ready to volunteer 90% of his Profit after paying tithe since (Abraham/Melchi) occurence sets a preceedence?

Remember that an occurence setting-up a preceedence has to be wholy applied and not partly applied
That Is;
you claim here that we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek/Abraham situation

hardasan:
(Gen. 14:18-20)... This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek

18 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. 19 And he blessed him and said:
“Blessed be Abram of God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth;
20
And blessed be God Most High,
Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”

And he gave him a tithe of all.

23 that I will take nothing, from a thread to a sandal strap, and that I will not take anything that is yours, lest you should say, ‘I have made Abram rich’

Then we are not supposed to have PROFIT TALKLESS OF BEIGN RICH AS A TITHER UNDER THE MELCHIZEDECK PRIESTHOOD Of which Abraham sets the recorded preceedence. simple.....principle fully applied!
How about that

BERNIMOORE:
(italics are mine)

Returning 90% HIS PROFIT (goods; increase / spoils of victory ) after the tithe10% IS THAT THE WAY MELCHIZEDECK PRIESTHOOD you claim DIRECTS CHRISTIANS TODAY TO TITHE? that is after tithe, No profit, All christians must be ready to volunteer 90% of his Profit after paying tithe since (Abraham/Melchi) occurence sets a preceedence?

Remember that an occurence setting-up a preceedence has to be wholy applied and not partly applied
That Is;
you claim here that we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek/Abraham situation


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Then we are not supposed to have PROFIT TALKLESS OF BEIGN RICH AS A TITHER UNDER THE MELCHIZEDECK PRIESTHOOD Of which Abraham sets the recorded preceedence. simple.....principle fully applied!
How about that

What Abraham did with his half of what they recovered is nobody's business.
I earn 10,000ngn from a business with a business partner, my co biz owner is not a christian and doesn't believe in tithes, I pay tithe of 1,000ngn on the whole 10,000ngn, my partner comes and shares profits with me, he takes 5,000ngn cus he no send me message, I take 3,000ngn. I changed my mind and gave my partner 2,500ngn and kept 500ngn only as my tfare back home.

Did I pay tithe ? Yes
Is all the 10,000ngn mine? No,
Do I have a right to pay tithe from the money, Yes.
Is it true that since I returned my share of the profits to my partner, I paid tithe on money that isn't mine ? No, no, no

I hope you understand the drama now

hardasan:



Yet it was apostle Paul who said :

1 Corinthians 9:13-14

Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel

and how does that relate to tithing Miss ?


in fact, if it was tithing he was talking about in that verse, show me a record of him living of the gospel by asking for Tithes ??

BERNIMOORE:
can you see how faulty the basis of this tithe? do you know that most pastors knew this but they are silently sponsoring and paying people to defend the fraud on the social media while they kept quiet leaving these paid fraud-defenders on a hot seat, thats what i just discover

Oh! going to the extent of paying people to defend their baseless Tradition . Really ? I thought as much .

Yes you are right that many of them know its wrong, Johnson Suleiman responses to the guy Freeze are filled with unintelligent and blind emotions , coupled with unfounded sentiments .

I expect him and his crew to refute and present their point with sound Evidence from their bible. No they can't!!!

hardasan:

What Abraham did with his half of what they recovered is nobody's business.
I earn 10,000ngn from a business with a business partner, my co biz owner is not a christian and doesn't believe in tithes, I pay tithe of 1,000ngn on the whole 10,000ngn, my partner comes and shares profits with me, he takes 5,000ngn cus he no send me message, I take 3,000ngn. I changed my mind and gave my partner 2,500ngn and kept 500ngn only as my tfare back home.

Did I pay tithe ? Yes
Is all the 10,000ngn mine? No,
Do I have a right to pay tithe from the money, Yes.
Is it true that since I returned my share of the profits to my partner, I paid tithe on money that isn't mine ? No, no, no

I hope you understand the drama now

ribcracking comedy, you cannot even quote a single Bible verse to support your claim

Peacefullove:


and how does that relate to tithing Miss ?


in fact, if it was tithing he was talking about in that verse, show me a record of him living of the gospel by asking for Tithes ??

Numbers 18 vs 31

31. And ye shall eat it in every place, ye and your households : for it is your reward for your service in the congregation of the tabernacle

Tithes was being spoken of in Numbers 18 vs 25 - 32
God said that the remaining tithe after the lévites have offered a heave offering (a tenth of the tithes received) is their reward. Isn't that living off the gospel ?

BERNIMOORE:
ribcracking comedy, you cannot even quote a single Bible verse to support your claim

I quoted the story of Jacob, you said we should dwell on the story of Abraham only. I did, you asked me to explain where the profit for the tithe came from. I did. Instead of you to admit that you have understood, you're calling me a comedian.
Expert post shifter, I'm waiting, change your post again.

hardasan:


I quoted the story of Jacob, you said we should dwell on the story of Abraham only. I did

because its distracting, why? you guys said that Abrahamic tithe and not jacobs self-vowed-tenth -part' agrees with the first tithe here is your post

hardasan:

(Gen. 14:18-20)... This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek

hardasan:

you asked me to explain where the profit for the tithe came from. I did. Instead of you to admit that you have understood,

you did not explain But rather YOU RAPED THE BIBLE! how? you singularly inpose your own value 'telling us who's got a business or who has not' in a very important matter like AMOUNTS TO stealing faithfuls tithe, here is your response

hardasan:
What Abraham did with his half of what they recovered is nobody's business.
THEREBY ENCOURAGING STEALIN, WHEN NOBODY ARROGATE OU WITH SUCH POWERS!

so when king saul went to war, was he not entitled to 'war spoils' So when he took big animals for sacrifice was he not entitled? yes he lost his kingship because of protecting his 'entitlement' abi!

you fail to see
(a)Godliness in Abrahamic's tithe (OT) AND PAUL'S (NT) 1 COR.9:15 But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; for it would be better for me to die than that anyone should make my boasting void
'when Abraham rejects 'beign made rich' that I will take nothing from a thread to a sandal strap, and that I will not take anything that is yours, lest you should say yet your basis for tithe is for floodgates of heaven for wealth, you refuse to see corinthians 9:15 BUT SUIT YOURSELF WITH VS 13-14se who serve at the altar partake of the offerings of the altar? 14 Even so the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel.
that you breezed through Godliness and support fraud is EPIC
15 But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; for it would be better for me to die than that anyone should make my boasting void

calling me a comedian.

BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT QUOTE BIBLE ERSE AGAIN IN YOUR LAST POST.

Expert post shifter, I'm waiting, change your post again

CHEAP BLACKMAIL, LIKE aDEBOYE AND SULEIMAN, IT WILL NOT WORK HERE .

BERNIMOORE:


But before you answer me let me point this out
Hebrew 7: 12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.


so todays pastors have [b]no legitimate right to receive tithe unto the lord if they do it 'NA OVERSABI'

This was your first post, that made me reference to Melchizedek receiving tithe though not being a levite. Did you bring superior argument with bible verses? No instead you never mentioned it again and changed post to this.

bolded above ''currency'' you fail to support why no currency was mention there yet you ''forcefully added currency

Different bible versions were used to show your hypocrisy. U didn't reply the poster but shifted to

tithes is an offering for sin

I exposed your lies with bible verses. Did you talk again ? No. You ran again to

Are we clear Now that Abraham DID not tithe his possesion as you claim?

I mentioned the story of Jacob and you shouted stick to the story of Abraham simply because Abraham returned all he recovered at the end.
I nau explained the story properly you're here shouting comedy and emotional blackmail. you don't understand bible verses, I used a story to explain to you, you refused to understand. Can you see that you are not sincere at all ? You have made up your mind not to tithe but you want to deceive others along with you. That's why I didn't want to reply you from the onset. I mean, a man who is ready to argue if Christ is worthy to receive tithes is not a christian. The antichrist knows the bible better than us all. At the end, the word of God is there to show the way for sincere christains.

Now,
You cleverly skipped the initial debate of did Abraham pay tithe to: explain how Abraham has a right over what he tithed.
I have done that already. You need to show where the bible condemns tithing or shut up. I don't need your warped bible twisting. Just show where the bible condemned tithing.

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hardasan:


This was your first post, that made me reference to Melchizedek receiving tithe though not being a levite. Did you bring superior argument with bible verses? No instead you never mentioned it again and changed post to this.

yes, ABRAHAM Returning 90% OF HIS PROFIT (goods; increase / spoils of victory ) after the tithe Of 10% to MELCHIZEDECK, that is after tithe, No profit, All christians must be ready to volunteer 90% of his Profit after paying tithe since (Abraham/Melchi) occurence sets a preceedence?

you were saying that its nobody's buz to talk about how profit should be used and i ask who gave YOU SUCH POWERS TO CHERRY-PICK WHAT sets a preceedence?
You claim that christians are paying tithe under the priesthood of Melchizedeck here;

(Gen. 14:18-20)... This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek

18 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. 19 And he blessed him and said:
“Blessed be Abram of God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth;
20
And blessed be God Most High,
Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”

And he gave him a tithe of all.

23 that I will take nothing, from a thread to a sandal strap, and that I will not take anything that is yours, lest you should say, ‘I have made Abram rich’

i said if Abraham gave a tithe of all in verse 20, then verse 23 which shows how he gave out whole profits shows that under Melchi's priesthood, christians are to follow suit to give-out all profit after tithe

YOU DO NOT HAVE SUCH POWERS TO CHERRY-PICK WHAT sets a preceedence.

(POST *A1)

hardasan:


This was your first post, that made me reference to Melchizedek receiving tithe though not being a levite. Did you bring superior argument with bible verses? No instead you never mentioned it again

HERE WAS MY RESPONSE(in green), ON THIS LINK https://www.nairaland.com/4160536/paying-tithe-biblical/ I brough a parrallel bible verse that knock-off your claims when you compare;

hardasan:


1peter 2vs 9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Every one of us in the Christiandom are priests

can you see your mis-interpretation? lets see a parallel bible verse that says the same thing to the nation of isrealite yet 'not all are priest'

Exodus 19:6
and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.' These are the words that you shall speak to the sons of Israel."
With The statement above, all tribes of isreal would have been priests, but apart from the levites no other tribe can officiate at the alter or be a priest.
example was tribe of judah, which bible actually claim that they are not priest.
hebrew 7
13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood
in the light of exodus 19:6

can you first reverse your erroneous assertion that 'every christians are priest?

pastors receive tithes because they represent the lévites

of Judaism

so if pastors represent levites priest and their chief priest is (jesus) is represents tribe of judah a tribe from which no man has officiated at the altar and not a priesthood tribe is that not confusing?
can you see that my detailed response was on record but despite my response above you denied that i never responded while you were the one that did not answer the question there! dont worry its frustration just calm down i am saving this post (POST *A1)

BERNIMOORE:
(POST *A) post tagged for refference
yes, ABRAHAM Returning 90% OF HIS PROFIT (goods; increase / spoils of victory ) after the tithe Of 10% to MELCHIZEDECK, that is after tithe, No profit, All christians must be ready to volunteer 90% of his Profit after paying tithe since (Abraham/Melchi) occurence sets a preceedence?

you were saying that its nobody's buz to talk about how profit should be used and i ask who gave YOU SUCH POWERS TO CHERRY-PICK WHAT sets a preceedence?
You claim that christians are paying tithe under the priesthood of Melchizedeck here;
i said if Abraham gave a tithe of all in verse 20, then verse 23 which shows how he gave out whole profits shows that under Melchi's priesthood, christians are to follow suit to give-out all profit after tithe

YOU DO NOT HAVE SUCH POWERS TO CHERRY-PICK WHAT sets a preceedence.

Go and force them to dash you the 90% remaining. I repeat, all that concerns this tithe is : " and he paid tithes of all"

After that, he returned everything else including what should have been his. Did Melchizedek tell him to do that ? No so why is his returning the 90% (of which he was still entitled to part) paining you ?

Show where the bible condemned tithing

BERNIMOORE:
(POST *A1)


HERE WAS MY RESPONSE(in green), ON THIS LINK https://www.nairaland.com/4160536/paying-tithe-biblical/ I brough a parrallel bible verse that knock-off your claims when you compare;


can you see your mis-interpretation? lets see a parallel bible verse that says the same thing to the nation of isrealite yet 'not all are priest'

Exodus 19:6
and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.' These are the words that you shall speak to the sons of Israel."
With The statement above, all tribes of isreal would have been priests, but apart from the levites no other tribe can officiate at the alter or be a priest.
example was tribe of judah, which bible actually claim that they are not priest.
hebrew 7
13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood
in the light of exodus 19:6

can you first reverse your erroneous assertion that 'every christians are priest?


so if pastors represent levites priest and their chief priest is (jesus) is represents tribe of judah a tribe from which no man has officiated at the altar and not a priesthood tribe is that not confusing?
can you see that my detailed response was on record but despite my response above you denied that i never responded while you were the one that did not answer the question there! dont worry its frustration just calm down i am saving this post (POST *A1)

Pastors represent the biblical levites who are priests. The priests receive tithes but in the biblical days, priesthood was reserved only for the lévites. Just like Melchizedech who predates the levitical priesthood received tithes so likewise, the post levitical priests are pastors and have the right to receive tithes.

Show us where the bible condemned tithing.

hardasan:


Numbers 18 vs 31

31. And ye shall eat it in every place, ye and your households : for it is your reward for your service in the congregation of the tabernacle

Tithes was being spoken of in Numbers 18 vs 25 - 32
God said that the remaining tithe after the lévites have offered a heave offering (a tenth of the tithes received) is their reward. Isn't that living off the gospel ?

I have no issue with Levi people collecting tithe, its part of the Jewish religion. Am talking about Christianity as practiced by the apostles

Seems you didn't hear the question well , or you are not following this discussion with your heart .

Let me give you some flashback

You quote 1 Corinthians 9:13 and 14 from which you give the submission that tithing is one way by which A Christian can live of the gospel . A Submission I need you to prove by Citing just one record of Paul who wrote the verse or any other Apostle doing that which u assume he meant ?

Anyway have you checked www.christianevents.com.ng

NwaAmaikpe:



Sorry to differ with you.
But the giving of monetary offerings to the church as tithe is wrong, it is unbiblical and purely exploitative.

The Bible is perspicuous about tithing.
Deuteronomy 14 : 22-27
Explains the process of tithing which our devilish pastor never tell us

Kindly study it and be blessed.

No man can help your case. Only Jesus can deliver your.

For a start, tithing is for christians. You are not a Christian, so what's your concern with tithing? You go to church sometimes, but that doesn't make you a Christian. You are merely a Wolf in sheep's clothing when it comes to churistianity. So Pls allow us Christians to obey what our Heavenly Father commanded us to obey in Malachi 3:10 and Matthew 23:23. You, keep following the paths of your god who was a rebel in heaven but was cast down. Whoever doesn't like Malachi 3:10 and Matthew 23:23 should go and tear them out of their bible!

Peacefullove:


I have no issue with Levi people collecting tithe, its part of the Jewish religion. Am talking about Christianity as practiced by the apostles

Seems you didn't hear the question well , or you are not following this discussion with your heart .

Let me give you some flashback

You quote 1 Corinthians 9:13 and 14 from which you give the submission that tithing is one way by which A Christian can live of the gospel . A Submission I need you to prove by Citing just one record of Paul who wrote the verse or any other Apostle doing that which u assume he meant ?

1Chorinthians ch 9 vs 13 - 14 (KJV)

13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


1 Corinthians 9:13-14New International Version (NIV)

13 Don’t you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar?
14 In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.


1 Corinthians 9:13-14Good News Translation (GNT)

13 Surely you know that the men who work in the Temple get their food from the Temple and that those who offer the sacrifices on the altar get a share of the sacrifices.
14 In the same way, the Lord has ordered that those who preach the gospel should get their living from it.



The things of the altar are tithe and offerings. Ministers of holy things are pastors / priests


Matthew 23:23King James Version (KJV)

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.


Matthew 23:23New International Version (NIV)

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

Jesus said here that we shouldn't just pay tithe and neglect holy living but do the two.

Thirdly, tithing wasn't condemned in any part of the bible. From the OT to the NT.

Edelweiss44:


No man can help your case. Only Jesus can deliver your.

For a start, tithing is for christians. You are not a Christian, so what's your concern with tithing? You go to church sometimes, but that doesn't make you a Christian. You are merely a Wolf in sheep's clothing when it comes to churistianity. So Pls allow us Christians to obey what our Heavenly Father commanded us to obey in Malachi 3:10 and Matthew 23:23. You, keep following the paths of your god who was a rebel in heaven but was cast down. Whoever doesn't like Malachi 3:10 and Matthew 23:23 should go and tear them out of their bible!

Lol
Preach bro, preach !

hardasan:


1Chorinthians ch 9 vs 13 - 14 (KJV)

13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


1 Corinthians 9:13-14New International Version (NIV)

13 Don’t you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar?
14 In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.


1 Corinthians 9:13-14Good News Translation (GNT)

13 Surely you know that the men who work in the Temple get their food from the Temple and that those who offer the sacrifices on the altar get a share of the sacrifices.
14 In the same way, the Lord has ordered that those who preach the gospel should get their living from it.



The things of the altar are tithe and offerings. Ministers of holy things are pastors / priests


Matthew 23:23King James Version (KJV)

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.


Matthew 23:23New International Version (NIV)

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

Jesus said here that we shouldn't just pay tithe and neglect holy living but do the two.

Thirdly, tithing wasn't condemned in any part of the bible. From the OT to the NT.

So Levite's actually preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ too like the apostle's did ? Answer me.

I demand again, If those who preach the gospel should live of the gospel mean Apostles who preach Gospel should collect tithe , SHOW ME ONE INSTANCE OF APOSTLES COLLECTING TITHES TO LIVE OF THE GOSPEL ?

Am waiting

Peacefullove:


So Levite's actually preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ too like the apostle's did ? Answer me.

I demand again, If those who preach the gospel should live of the gospel mean Apostles who preach Gospel should collect tithe , SHOW ME ONE INSTANCE OF APOSTLES COLLECTING TITHES TO LIVE OF THE GOSPEL ?

Am waiting

Don't mix them up, in verse 13, the ministers the of the holy things were the levitical priests who handles holy incense, etc verse 14 the preachers of the gospel are apostles or pastors.


Acts 2:44-45King James Version (KJV)
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.


Acts 2:44-45Good News Translation (GNT)

44 All the believers continued together in close fellowship and shared their belongings with one another.
45 They would sell their property and possessions, and distribute the money among all, according to what each one needed.


When all members of the church were giving more than 10% to the church, there is no need to tithe.
Eg. I earn 30k monthly, once I receive my salary, I buy foodstuffs with 10k and I carry 20k and drop in the welfare offering box. If it's tithe, I've paid already. So no need preaching on tithe.

Acts ch 5 tells the story of Ananias who tried to give less than he made from his land sales. Who received the money he realized from the sales of his land?
Apostle Peter

hardasan:


If you give 100% to the church, no wahala,
If not, that doesn't apply to you

Neither does tithing apply to the christian Church.

hardasan:


The bible never condemned tithing in the NT nor OT. The law has changed, yet the law of tithing wasn’t condemned. The parts that needs to be changed have been changed, the parts not condemned still stands.

The tithing law was condemned in Hebrew 7:18-19. If you read from verse five the commandment to tithe was mentioned, this commandment was later described as a weak, useless and unprofitable law in verse 18.

hardasan:


Don't mix them up, in verse 13, the ministers the of the holy things were the levitical priests who handles holy incense, etc verse 14 the preachers of the gospel are apostles or pastors.


Acts 2:44-45King James Version (KJV)
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.


Acts 2:44-45Good News Translation (GNT)

44 All the believers continued together in close fellowship and shared their belongings with one another.
45 They would sell their property and possessions, and distribute the money among all, according to what each one needed.


When all members of the church were giving more than 10% to the church, There is no need to tithe.


Eg. I earn 30k monthly, once I receive my salary, I buy foodstuffs with 10k and I carry 20k and drop in the welfare offering box. If it's tithe, I've paid already. So no need preaching on tithe.

Acts ch 5 tells the story of Ananias who tried to give less than he made from his land sales. Who received the money he realized from the sales of his land?
Apostle Peter

Clearly u misused that Corinthians u quoted . Living off the gospel was never tithing, Don't be among the ignorant ones spoken of who twist the words of Paul - 2 Peter 3:15 and 16 .

With the Bold, Just admit such was never practiced among the Early Christians . No such thing as TITHE . !!!

Peacefullove:


Clearly u misused that Corinthians u quoted . Living off the gospel was never tithing, Don't be among the ignorant ones spoken of who twist the words of Paul - 2 Peter 3:15 and 16 .

With the Bold, Just admit such was never practiced among the Early Christians . No such thing as TITHE . !!!

What did the scripture mean by living off the gospel ?

Where did the bible condemn tithes ?