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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 9:04am On Mar 26, 2018
My thought on Nigeria vs Serbia

I think Rohr should rest Ekong and Balogun..why? Their patnership has been tested,trusted and assured...of all the departments in the team,both gives peace of mind.. unless Rohr want to test other defenders with them INDIVIDUALLY.

Also, Ndidi,Ogu and Onazi...their midfield formation has gelled...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:06am On Mar 26, 2018
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Mujtahida:

Being accommodative does not mean condonation. Such a man is a wimp. I respect your views but I will also challenge and oppose it.

Hypocrites, pretender, corrupt, bigot, tribalist - these are some of the words you often pin on people but I'm not deceived. You are merely projecting your own negative attributes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:10am On Mar 26, 2018
forgiveness:


Very simple, his market value dropped being a Nigerian.

Have you looked at Agbonlahor's before asking that question? No. I don't think so. You just asked because you think he failed.

Breaking into the English national team is not the bone of contention. It's the financial benefit and opportunity that comes with being an English player is what I am talking about.

I think you now understand.

So why didn't iwobi and Moses market value drop?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:11am On Mar 26, 2018
They are different people with interests that conincidentally align.
There is a chance that if SE is full of England based players, they will both get their way at least 70% of the time.

They are only SE fans when the composition of the team supports their ideologies. I'm just trying to be civil here lol

Modified
From my observation of forgiveness, in my estimation I think in real life he is that "Federal character" kind of guy.

Komekn clearly thinks England should be the benchmark for everything.

Farzat:
I doubt that Komekn is a different person from Forgiveness. I took time to read their messages, they have one common interest no matter how much they try to cover it. The tone of their messages and argument is the same. Always on opposition side of every single topic. Always expressing a mindset of insecurity and inferiority complex. Always presenting statistics to pull one player down in promotion of another. Always responding to every comment with questions like " where did u hear me say.....? Answer me this that YES or NO? All these similarities cant be coincidence. But it will be a big shame if its actually one person that is misusing his talent and time to cause nuisance on this beautiful thread.
We should not over emphasize on the importance of comments on nairaland. If Rohr have time to read all these comments, l can bet u that he can never be successful (Those that make news dont really have time to read news)
We have a foreign coach that is giving us good results, lets all support this team and enjoy it while it lasts. If d sentiment of not having your favourite player overshadows d joy of d team victories, what will happen when d team looses?
Taking some issues personal, arguing from morning till night and starting all over again tomorrow might indirectly affect our reasoning and emotional life for nothing. Too much of anything is bad.
Happy new week to everyone.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:14am On Mar 26, 2018
somehow:
Recommend 1 or 2
I love your question.I think we had this discussion yesterday based on Mikel Agu late call and metaljigsaw said why when we have Ndidi,Onazi,Joel,Ogu,Etebo,and Agbo even Agbo continue invitation has a question mark.

Humility017 and metaljigsaw believe what we need now is AM cos it was evident against Poland and they are right but the question is do we have one.

I came up with Sone Aluko and Kekechi Nwakili but some came hard on me said why Aluko?but didn't question why Nwakili Kelechi.

The issue here is simple we are too sentimental and emotional in our response to issues and we often forget that we are talking football.

I now realized mentioning name Aluko is not the issue or his quality is questionable but some see it as a way to hit back at some monikers,that's not analysis.

If we are questioning clamouring for Aluko then why are we trying to justify Chiedebere Nwakili invitation for Algeria and Argentina match,pls on what ground.

I made my recommendation and i said Aluko and Kelechi,Humility017 thumb me up on Kelechi Nwakili and forgiveness said why Kelechi Nwakili who is now playing in dutch 2nd tier.

I think Aluko would fit in just like Joel Obi cos he once a member of the team right from U20 and Nwakili is a young lad with great talent and see him as a future replacement for Mikel.

Major issue here we leave football analysis to settle personal scores which is not good for this thread.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:41am On Mar 26, 2018
Kog45:
I love your question.I think we had this discussion yesterday based on Mikel Agu late call and metaljigsaw said why when we have Ndidi,Onazi,Joel,Ogu,Etebo,and Agbo even Agbo continue invitation has a question mark.

Humility017 and metaljigsaw believe what we need now is AM cos it was evident against Poland and they are right but the question is do we have one.

I came up with Sone Aluko and Kekechi Nwakili but some came hard on me said why Aluko?but didn't question why Nwakili Kelechi.

The issue here is simple we are too sentimental and emotional in our response to issues and we often forget that we are talking football.

I now realized mentioning name Aluko is not the issue or his quality is questionable but some see it as a way to hit back at some monikers,that's not analysis.

If we are questioning clamouring for Aluko then why are we trying to justify Chiedebere Nwakili invitation for Algeria and Argentina match,pls on what ground.

I made my recommendation and i said Aluko and Kelechi,Humility017 thumb me up on Kelechi Nwakili and forgiveness said why Kelechi Nwakili who is now playing in dutch 2nd tier.

I think Aluko would fit in just like Joel Obi cos he once a member of the team right from U20 and Nwakili is a young lad with great talent and see him as a future replacement for Mikel.

Major issue here we leave football analysis to settle personal scores which is not good for this thread.

Aluko play as a SS and winger, his not a midfielder.. do your finding

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:48am On Mar 26, 2018
gamaliel9:
My thought on Nigeria vs Serbia

I think Rohr should rest Ekong and Balogun.. why? Their patnership has been tested,trusted and assured...of all the departments in the team,both gives peace of mind.. unless Rohr want to test other defenders with them INDIVIDUALLY.

Also, Ndidi,Ogu and Onazi...their midfield formation has gelled ...

On first bolded that partnership should continue and become more solidified. Omeruo and Awaziem may also show substitute showings as back-ups, when necessary, to also integrate them into CB fold. I think we are settled in this department of the team.

On second bolded, how many games have the trio played together for you to make such conclusion?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:53am On Mar 26, 2018
tbaba1234:


He did not say, he will commit to Nigeria at 23.. He said that a decision on his international career will ve made at 23.

The right back position is filled up and the players there are young too.

You are reading into small details misunderstandings.

So if he contacts the NFF last summer, 2 years earlier than he had stated, what do you think he talked to them about

He plays CB as well. Reminds me of a certain RB for Nigeria that rose to fame as RB but was placed as a CB for Everton and the rest is history.

Yobo if not most capped player in the SE definitely most capped defender.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:57am On Mar 26, 2018
Mujtahida:

This is the second time you are asking this question in response to the mention of the name Doherty. Is this a form of misdirection? How can you be in the thick of things football wise in the UK and not know Doherty? Komekn, da komekn. Nothing do you

Well forgive my ignorance I simply do not.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 9:57am On Mar 26, 2018
Guys just finished watching the game, men! Our guys dey press. Lawd!!!

Ighalo and Kelechi were pressing the life out of the back three with the middle four and back four pressing hard. We should be happy! smiley

REAL TALK NOW
As much as we pressed them, so did they
But why they had more possession was because of our average pass accuracy, Brian idowu was just ballooning the ball in the air, defensively he tried but passing and take on's ? Him no try, Echeijile of 2013 better pass am.

John ogu!!! Very underrated guy. If you notice when he came in, we switched to a 4-1-4-1 formation with ogu in front of the back four and Musa as the front guy given the back three of the polish guys having time on the ball to play up to the center line cus they were going for a goal, but the difference now was that they still had only two central midfielders(3-4-3) but we had a John ogu sitting deep with two guys that can mark in Onazi and ndidi (truth is Onazi at room temperature can ginger counter attack) I.e
It was 3 against 2 in the middle, they tried to build from the middle (for where ndidi and Onazi dey) counter them sharp sharp in a space of 5 minutes we countered twice and almost scored. 10mins more we could have scored.

Tyrone Ebuehi dey chin-gum die.

Weakness
The polish guy were winning header in our box too much and our free kicks were not played in to threaten areas.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:59am On Mar 26, 2018
TheGoodJoe:



“I hope that young players like Barnes, Iheanacho and Diabate can be the future of Leicester City... Puel

This Puel's statement highlights how Leicester City board sees Nacho. Nacho was not bought to lead the line or keep Vardy on the bench.

Your comments come after the event, Shakespeare bought him to lead and score goals along side Vardy.

Currently Puel is in charge and is developing KC to be a better player in the context of what Leicester want and need.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:59am On Mar 26, 2018
komekn:


When Tega ripped the championship last season, how many EPL teams were queuing up to sign him.

Is that not an indictment you helped a club to get to the EPL and they didn't break the bank to sign you but let you go. How many EPL clubs were waiting to sign him after his outstanding performance.

How many MOTM awards did he win in the Championship

I do not know Onazi but do you And is that what he told you You are being presumptuous to a fault

These are old players on the wrong side of 30 you and have seen thier best days behind them taking an easy ride in a far less competitive league that you have in Turkey.

This is laughable Pepe is 35 so also or thereabouts are Robihno and Quaresma or maybe you deh joke.

Do you know Aluko you have been clamouring for is 29 and also helped Hull city to premiership but was release immediately by hull.

If Aluko was that wonderful why didn't they hold him on with a contract

#hypocrite

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:03am On Mar 26, 2018
Humility017:


the bolded makes no sense...at all.
your partner even argued that because he choose play for Nigeria....that's why he has been refused to be signed by epl clubs...

sometimes you both need to know...you are not talking to kids on this thread...as such learn be objective and rational in your words.

Firstly, l speak for myself and I do not have a partner on this forum.

So I'm not sure where you are coming from or going.

You must be new
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:05am On Mar 26, 2018
Humility017:

oga komekn...i think you need the last sentence more than I do.....
your inability to balance your points and words on this thread...placed you on a wrong path...as one who only came here to promote borough players.....

you have failed to see beyond your nose...
you have so much to learn I think...

One word shameless EVASION.

Stick to the issues and stop muddying the discourse with emotive rhetoric without substance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:06am On Mar 26, 2018
kentebemoney:
Guys just finished watching the game, men! Our guys dey press. Lawd!!!

Ighalo and Kelechi were pressing the life out of the back three with the middle four and back four pressing hard. We should be happy! smiley

REAL TALK NOW
As much as we pressed them, so did they
But why they had more possession was because of our average pass accuracy, Brian idowu was just ballooning the ball in the air, defensively he tried but passing and take on's ? Him no try, Echeijile of 2013 better pass am.

John ogu!!! Very underrated guy. If you notice when he came in, we switched to a 4-1-4-1 formation with ogu in front of the back four and Musa as the front guy given the back three of the polish guys having time on the ball to play up to the center line cus they were going for a goal, but the difference now was that they still had only two central midfielders(3-4-3) but we had a John ogu sitting deep with two guys that can mark in Onazi and ndidi (truth is Onazi at room temperature can ginger counter attack) I.e
It was 3 against 2 in the middle, they tried to build from the middle (for where ndidi and Onazi dey) counter them sharp sharp in a space of 5 minutes we countered twice and almost scored. 10mins more we could have scored.

Tyrone Ebuehi dey chin-gum die.

Weakness
The polish guy were winning header in our box too much and our free kicks were not played in to threaten areas.


nice review mate, but was expecting more review on our goal keeper and defense
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CaptainStephen(m): 10:08am On Mar 26, 2018
Martz101:


You are obsessed with 3-5-2 formation, Moses only went back to help the defence, musa did too
obsessed ke! check well
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:09am On Mar 26, 2018
Just saw this on Ndidi’s Insta. Saw something similar on Iwobis as well. Does anyone know if the Super Eagles are filming a documentary of sorts?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:10am On Mar 26, 2018
komekn:


You are reading into small details misunderstandings.

So if he contacts the NFF last summer, 2 years earlier than he had stated, what do you think he talked to them about

He plays CB as well. Reminds me of a certain RB for Nigeria that rose to fame as RB but was placed as a CB for Everton and the rest is history.

Yobo if not most capped player in the SE definitely most capped defender.

By last Summer, we already had Idowu, Aina and Ebuehi. Yes, Iorfa is available for selection but there is no vacancy at right back.

Iorfa is not primarily a CB. Yes he plays there but that is not his primarily role. It is not a surprise that the coach did not look his way in his search for CBs.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 10:10am On Mar 26, 2018
Very good development seeing young players come to us.

Watched this clip of Tosin Kehinde, www.youtube.com/watch?v=83CPkex7CJA&feature=youtu.be



Greatest asset is his confidence, something peculiar with youth players. Uses both feet. And a remarkable all-round player, can tackle as well as attack. Great prospect for the FUTURE.


But The gaffer should leave him to develop for a year or two. Nigeria is becoming a team of young men, our growth is like that of Liverpool, good coach, positive results and players like Ox and Van Dijk, are rejecting bigger teams for us.


I'm very excited at our blueprint. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-utd-news-tosin-kehinde-14456328

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:11am On Mar 26, 2018
Bolowolowo:
Just saw this on Ndidi’s Insta. Saw something similar on Iwobis as well. Does anyone know if the Super Eagles are filming a documentary of sorts?

They had a photoshot for Coca-cola, i believe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:11am On Mar 26, 2018
Humility017:

so because he failed to get an English club to sign him...means he is not good enough?
you see your problem...you always judge everything from the prism of your little mind...fisted and mould only after English foot ball....


If you had some wisdom, before jumping on the train you should check where it's coming from and where it's going.

That way when you comment it will in context and related to the specific discussion at hand.

When you take a word out of context it becomes a CON. That's what you are doing misrepresentation but with premeditated negative prejudice.

So go back if you have integrity and see what the underpinned the discussion and where it started from before you comment.

Finally you have not answered my questions just evaded them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 10:11am On Mar 26, 2018
Against Serbia 4-1-4-1

Uzoho
Tyrone Ekong Balogun idowu
John ogu
S. moses-ndidi-joel-v.moses
Ighalo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:15am On Mar 26, 2018
SerVik:

Nigeria was always the second option for Iorfa and his father, they were holding out for England and they felt their chances where brighter at Iorfa's young age.

The plan was that he'd play for England if the invitation came or if they showed any interest, but if there is no interest before 23 then they'd fall back to their 2nd choice. They wanted to play a fast one on us.

You're the one always harping it into our heads that 19 in football terms is no longer a young age. A player is supposed to have made those decisions even before 20. If I approach you when I need you and you turn me down citing a hogwash as excuse, best believe, when you need me, I won't even look you twice.

We are a moving train, we stopped for him and he refused to hop on, we've moved on. He should join the next train(England) if he thinks he possesses the necessary boarding pass(talent).

Professional career progression and choosing your national team are not the same thing. They are miles apart so using that comparison is simply not tenable.

Can I ask how many overtures where made to Jordan Torunarigha past, present and continuous using the supposed standard you have made.

Double standard.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:16am On Mar 26, 2018
Kog45:
....Let him wait too....oh do you think am canvassing for his invitation? No

If you can go back pages i was one of the few monikers that went against Iorfa senior statement.

But my question is,why are we always showing double standard in dealing with the same issue.

Torunarigha Ojokojo said my son will not play for Nigeria but here some said that's his father statement not the boy.

Dominic Iorfa said my son will decide his future at 23 but we are using the statement to knock the boy off.

If i may ask,whom will you pick between Iorfa and Torunarigha based on their Father's statements.

Good Torunarigha Jordon came out recently to reject Nigeria.


Egbon,there is no double standard anywhere.. the German boys are just being more frank with us than the Queens boys... Don't forget that Rohr has already meet with some British born Nigerian player who are willing to represent us and I'm sure they have been given an assurance of a call up soon.... as for Torunarigha snubbing us,I personally don't have a problem with it since he was frank with us unlike what Tammy,Nedum Onuoha,Ibe and Agbonlahor did....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:16am On Mar 26, 2018
Dedebanky85:
You see why I don't take the Naija league serious. I was like this guy de celebrate half time leads. Be patient and await the outcome cos it's the FT results that is the koko. Please see the outcomes of all the 5 leads. Penalties at the end. It was the Rangers game that even infuriated me the most.
Our league is a big time joke.




So wat u are saying is that last minute penalties don't happen elsewhere? Ok then
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:17am On Mar 26, 2018
Kog45:
I think Iorfa senior didn't do well as ex international by saying my son will wait until 23 years of age to decide his future.

Truly he did not say the boy will not play for Nigeria.

Unlike Torunarigha Jordon's father who said categorically that my son will not play for Nigeria.

Iorfa junior did not say I will not play for Nigeria

But Torunarigha has come out to say i preferred German team.

NFF and Rohr approached Torunarigha despite his Dad statement but did NFF approach Iorfa jnr?NO

We just believe is wrong for Iorfa to say my son will decide his future at 23.

If Rohr need Iorfa jnr i don't think his Dad earlier stance w affect the young man chances.

Do you know Rohr is ready to have Uduokhai,Akpoguma and Torunarigha if they change their minds.

And why are we always knocking the English born and willing to give soft landing for German born despite their unwillingness to represent Nigeria.







THANK YOU THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD


Double standard

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:17am On Mar 26, 2018
Bolowolowo:
Just saw this on Ndidi’s Insta. Saw something similar on Iwobis as well. Does anyone know if the Super Eagles are filming a documentary of sorts?
it may be somee sort of adverts..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 10:19am On Mar 26, 2018
Martz101:


nice review mate, but was expecting more review on our goal keeper and defense
COMING SOON

WATCH OUT cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:20am On Mar 26, 2018
forgiveness:



I am really struggling to know how Agu yanch open in the matches he played for us. Can you please clarify with facts to back t up?
I should be the one asking you such question. What quality does Agu bring to the team. What does he offer the team apart from fouls and yellow cards? Its a general knowledge.

I'm so surprised someone can come out and defend such a mediocre player in the SE

I need facts and stats

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 10:21am On Mar 26, 2018
SerVik:

Nigeria was always the second option for Iorfa and his father, they were holding out for England and they felt their chances where brighter at Iorfa's young age.

The plan was that he'd play for England if the invitation came or if they showed any interest, but if there is no interest before 23 then they'd fall back to their 2nd choice. They wanted to play a fast one on us.

You're the one always harping it into our heads that 19 in football terms is no longer a young age. A player is supposed to have made those decisions even before 20. If I approach you when I need you and you turn me down citing a hogwash as excuse, best believe, when you need me, I won't even look you twice.

We are a moving train, we stopped for him and he refused to hop on, we've moved on. He should join the next train(England) if he thinks he possesses the necessary boarding pass(talent).


I don't see why we keep castigating these young men. Put yourself in their shoes, would you put Harvard University over UNILAG, we should be very satisfied at being 2nd choices. Everyone wants to thrive at the highest level.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:21am On Mar 26, 2018
So why the mention of Enyeama? You didn't need to chip that in. No need for irrelevant name calling. Enyeama is in Lille B. Competing in the 4th tier
Be a fan.


komekn:


The crux of the matter, when the desirable is not available, the available becomes desirable.

If Enyeama was active we simply will not be having this discussion.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:22am On Mar 26, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


So wat u are saying is that last minute penalties don't happen elsewhere? Ok then
Almost all the home teams got last minute penalties. That's what he's saying

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