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Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(m): 7:54am On Aug 25, 2018 |
oluwaseunla: Now I have nothing against rebuilds, but when only 3 major items out of many engine parts will be replaced @ the total cost of a low mileage engine is why I had to speak up. engines are made up of more than just crankshaft, oilpump and bearings sir. there are a lot more parts that have suffered wear and tear and they will not be replaced for under 140,000 worth of parts. This Particular Rebuild is good for business. 1 Like |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 7:54am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: Where do you keep getting that figure from? Plus I've done that quite a few times already. Go back and read. And no, the Pistons were not included because they didn't need change. Go back and read what when EgunMogaji explained to you saving me the trouble. It is worth it to the customer because the customer has a 6 month warranty on parts and labor. Remember the customer? This is about them. 1 Like |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(m): 7:56am On Aug 25, 2018 |
weyreypey: This then brings to question, was it worth it for the client long term in this case? |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 7:56am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: Again, where are you getting 200,000 miles from? Also, please tell me how you will verify in this country your low mileage engine claim. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(m): 7:58am On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks: The Customer Had the Car for almost 7years @ 106,000miles. Would be nice if you could place another engine @ 106,000 miles and he gets another 7years |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 7:58am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: Ah, I see. You're assuming it still has the same engine in it as when it arrived. What is that saying about assuming? |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(m): 7:59am On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks: Very easy, same way I ran the plates and got the Vin of the corrola you pasted. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 7:59am On Aug 25, 2018 |
AutoElectNG: ROFL |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 8:00am On Aug 25, 2018 |
oluwaseunla: Exactly my point. We presented both options and owner chose this so I'm not quite sure what team replace is up in arms about. We were quite clear on what we were going to do to the car to the owner. My peeve is team replace wants to be judge and jury for the customer. We don't. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:03am On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks: We choose based on information available to us. he did not have enough information to make a proper decision. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by Nobody: 8:04am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: I can’t say you’re guessing because god knows what your eyes have seen BUT if Madam is backing her work with a warranty then all is well. The only person who knows what that engine really needs is the mechanic that did the diagnostic and peeled the lump apart. Madam warranty is actually quite good. I’m set on 1 month, 1,000 miles so far but that may change. Are you guys familiar with the concept of short and long blocks? |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by oluwaseunla(m): 8:05am On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks: Ladipo market has some deep secrets. Only the initiates know it. 2 Likes |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 8:05am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: Again. 6 month warranty. Husband's been doing this over 20 years. We don't warranty if we can't back it. Parts were inspected and found okay. If they go bad it's 100% our cost both parts and labor so what exactly is the issue? Also, nowhere did I say we were doing a full on rebuild. I was very clear on my initial post what the engine needed. Again, this is about the customer 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 8:07am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: Please tell me what information he was missing. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 8:08am On Aug 25, 2018 |
oluwaseunla: Thank you and that is something we'd rather not deal with. When we use something, the world sees what we are using. There are no 1 Like |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by evilspirit: 8:08am On Aug 25, 2018 |
I may not like gazzuzz attitude but I rather take my car to his workshop for engine replacement thank use 100k as labor for a rebuild. 1 Like |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by oluwaseunla(m): 8:11am On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks: Not dark ma'am, deep. . Deep doesn't make it dark ma. That's by the way. Do you guys have access to car parts of European vehicles or you do strictly American. If you can get me some engine parts for one Peugeot like that, I can name my next baby Radu. You'll save me the stress of importing from Europe. I will shoot you a mail with details. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by Nobody: 8:14am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: Weld, grind, polish, shot peen, wedge, oil passages, etc, etc |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:16am On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks: Fake parts will last more than 6months (not saying your parts are fake) But a mildly used engine is this case will not even require a warranty. The engine is the warranty it's self straight from manufacturer, and yeah I've been doing it on this platform and no threads yet on a failed engine after over 5years. If the car can come in @ 106,000 miles and engine dies @ 250,000miles after 7years then a 106,000miles replacement engine will have a natural 7year warranty and over 150,000miles to go. And yes we give over 1year warranty on replaced engines only if you service with us, using the right oils. 1 Like |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:18am On Aug 25, 2018 |
EgunMogaji: Excellent. After all this How much is the Crankshaft. Aunty Radu biko help us here. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 8:18am On Aug 25, 2018 |
evilspirit: Which is fair enough. At the end of the day, it's your choice. We just put our faith in our product not other people's plain and simple. We understand the labor concept will be hard because it's not what you're used to but it takes 20.2 hours for the crankshaft on that car and 14.6 for the engine replacement. That's why the labor is what it is. If you notice, that's just a 30k difference in labor. If he wants to work at a labor rate of N2,500 per hour, more power to him. Our labor rate is N5,000 and it's dirt cheap for what we do. Like I said, we are 100% transparent. notice also that the crankshaft is an A level skill while the engine replace is a B level skill.. we really should charge more for labor but don't. 1 Like
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Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by Nobody: 8:20am On Aug 25, 2018 |
evilspirit: This is the beauty of a free society. Consumers and businesses win when there are customers making informed choices. What Madam said earlier resonated with me, that’s it’s the customers choice. We forget that sometimes. It can’t be said better than that. I think. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 8:20am On Aug 25, 2018 |
oluwaseunla: Peugeot is one brand we have zero experience with because they are not in USA. 3 Likes |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:22am On Aug 25, 2018 |
Guys if you can Pay 100k to replace parts on a 1zz I'm game o! |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by Nobody: 8:22am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: Wait a minute. I’m not saying all crankshafts need that. This particular cshaft may not need more than a good cleaning if it hasn’t spun in the bearings. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 8:24am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: We don't force people to use our services to get our warranty. If we did a good job, as long as they don't abuse their car, their warranty is good. We have no caveats. There is no consistent source of low mileage engines in the country we trust. Can we bring some in? Yes, but again, it's not worth it for the customer 2 Likes |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by thebigkendo(m): 8:24am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: GAZZUZZ: Using the above estimate, let's say approximately 300k + 35k labour + Gazzuzz mobil 1 warrantee = 330k Aunty Radu rebuild +parts(engine oil, coolant, crankshaft, oil pump, bearing, gaskets etc) + 6month warrantee = 240k Kazeem will probably do engine +labour +water in radiator = 180-200k with a week warrantee 330k - 240k = 90k 90k is alot of money mehn.. I will go with radautoworks mehn 300k is my confortable limit for engine life so with our assumed 250k miles on the corolla I Still have 50k miles to go.. Which is like 2 - 3 years Radautoworks for me.. 4 Likes |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by oluwaseunla(m): 8:24am On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks: Phew, you just broke my heart. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:27am On Aug 25, 2018 |
thebigkendo: Uber drivers do 5,000miles in 4weeks. try again sir. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:29am On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks: Excellent. I can be of help there. 1 Like |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by oluwaseunla(m): 8:29am On Aug 25, 2018 |
thebigkendo: That is on the assumption that your engine needs only a crankshaft and oil pump. That is why I said extent of damage is also a factor. |
Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 8:30am On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ: Retail is N95,626 but I'm obviously not telling you our cost. Or did you forget we are a Carquest? https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/crankshaft-rebuilders-remanufactured-crankshaft-kit-29620/20950159-P?searchTerm=Engine+Crankshaft+Kit |
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