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Re: . by superlightning: 8:40am On Oct 07, 2018
If they (the ikwerres) should come back begging us because they have indeed come to their senses, then we are obligated to forgive them. Its like the story of the prodigal son.
Re: . by superlightning: 8:46am On Oct 07, 2018
InyinyaAgbaOku:


You nailed it. They must never be accepted back if things start turning around in the East.
They deserted us in times of peril and even denigrated in addition.

And some folks were saying " what will you do if they decide to become Igbos tomorrow, that we must accept them". Rubbish talk.
How can you accept sb whose Igboness changes like weather?
Some of us want to make the same non visionary mistake our heroes made. Tagging just everybody along.
The same mistake IPOB made.

Pls let's note that there are a handful ikwerre that still identify as ndigbo, let's consider them. Let's not throw away the baby with the bath water.

Peter denied being a follower of Jesus 3 good times! Well, we all know what happened afterwards.

Let's leave a door open for those still identify with us.
Re: . by GuyWise(m): 8:51am On Oct 07, 2018
superlightning:
If they (the ikwerres) should come back begging us because they have indeed come to their senses, then we are obligated to forgive them. Its like the story of the prodigal son.
I don't think that will ever happen but if they decided to come back in the Igbo fold people like me wouldn't accept them with full heart, to me it will be better they remain they are.

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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 8:54am On Oct 07, 2018
ckenneths:
The very very rich..........

The roads are too narrow for my liking.
The streets in Uwani, Sahara layout, New layout, Camp, even have wider roads and durable too.
What's wrong with our new administrators?
Re: . by Nobody: 8:59am On Oct 07, 2018
superlightning:
If they (the ikwerres) should come back begging us because they have indeed come to their senses, then we are obligated to forgive them. Its like the story of the prodigal son.


Nobody is interested in ur submission of begging.
Ikwerres are whom they are even now I have ikwerre friends identifying as biafrans in good way not with that mad dog nnamdi kanu from abia state.

And unlike I said earlier kanu should limit his ipob to abia state and abians....we ain't interested.

Furthermore the long term progress of igbos needs we focus in one direction but that won't work wen Enugu, abia , ebonyi keeps insulting other igbos or their igbo brothers

There is no day that passes without them hauling out insults.

We must unanimously agree here and then that all insults to other igbo must first stop before we now spread our tentacles.

Charity they say begins at home.

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Re: . by GuyWise(m): 8:59am On Oct 07, 2018
InyinyaAgbaOku:


You nailed it. They must never be accepted back if things start turning around in the East.
They deserted us in times of peril and even denigrated in addition.

And some folks were saying " what will you do if they decide to become Igbos tomorrow, that we must accept them". Rubbish talk.
How can you accept sb whose Igboness changes like weather?
Some of us want to make the same non visionary mistake our heroes made. Tagging just everybody along.
The same mistake IPOB made.
These Ikwerre people are using our brain honestly, they will claim Igbo today to get appointment or favour then tomorrow they will switch to their hate button again, it is disheartening
Re: . by onuebonyi: 9:00am On Oct 07, 2018
PH International airport is serving the East at the moment. Anambra is equally building an international airport. Ebonyi state is building Ebonyi International airport that will serve Ebonyi and Enugu states on completion. Am sure Abia may start its own in the future. FG has rendered Enugu airport to a state level airport. Let all the states start developing its own aviation economy. Enough of these regional attachments. We are all equal federating units.


superlightning:


Enugu should have an international airport. If we the igbo already do have it in AIIA , then it MUST be upgraded and maintained.

Yorubas are milking us as we use their Lagos airport while still insulting us, don't you think ikwerre people will do same? Why can't we milk ourselves? Enugu international airport is the way forward.

Re: . by Nobody: 9:08am On Oct 07, 2018
onuebonyi:
PH International airport is serving the East at the moment. Anambra is equally building an international airport. Ebonyi state is building Ebonyi International airport that will serve Ebonyi and Enugu states on completion. Am sure Abia may start its own in the future. FG has rendered Enugu airport to a state level airport. Let all the states start developing its own aviation economy. Enough of these regional attachments. We are all equal federating units.



Lolzzzz....... grin grin grin grin grin grin

Wetin Enugu do u abeg........
Re: . by superlightning: 9:08am On Oct 07, 2018
Osagyefo98:



Nobody is interested in ur submission of begging.
Ikwerres are whom they are even now I have ikwerre friends identifying as biafrans in good way not with that mad dog nnamdi kanu from abia state.

And unlike I said earlier kanu should limit his ipob to abia state and abians....we ain't interested.

Furthermore the long term progress of igbos needs we focus in one direction but that won't work wen Enugu, abia , ebonyi keeps insulting other igbos or their igbo brothers

There is no day that passes without them hauling out insults.

We must unanimously agree here and then that all insults to other igbo must first stop before we now spread our tentacles.

Charity they say begins at home.

My dear brother, Your bitterness against Nnamdi KANU and abia state won't change the fact that majority of igboland stood with IPOB at the September sit-at-home directive. Deal with it.

Also, let's not digress from the topic. Nobody is hating on ANAMBRA . ANAMBRA owned monikers rather have been the ones downplaying and insulting other igbo states.

If you hate KANU or ndi abia state, nke-ahu gbasara gi.

Funny enough abia and ipob are mutually exclusive entities.
Re: . by Nobody: 9:19am On Oct 07, 2018
superlightning:


My dear brother, Your bitterness against Nnamdi KANU and abia state won't change the fact that majority of igboland stood with IPOB at the September sit-at-home directive. Deal with it.

The sit at home wasn't noticed in my area coz on that day business thrived and everywhere went normal as it used to be.

If there is total lock down in abia that doesn't means others have time for such madness.

superlightning:


Also, let's not digress from the topic. Nobody is hating on ANAMBRA . ANAMBRA owned monikers rather have been the ones downplaying and insulting other igbo states.

If you hate KANU or ndi abia state, nke-ahu gbasara gi.


None of my business coz he doesn't deliver food on my table. Let him contain his agitation to abia only, if other states want to join let them go over to abia.
But the peace we enjoy here must not be disturbed

superlightning:



Funny enough abia and ipob are mutually exclusive entities.




@bolded the more reason he should concentrate his campaign there. Him and his people can't continue to insult other igbo state and expect their support.

Life doesn't work that way. There must be balance.
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 9:24am On Oct 07, 2018
superlightning:


Pls let's note that there are a handful ikwerre that still identify as ndigbo, let's consider them. Let's not throw away the baby with the bath water.

Peter denied being a follower of Jesus 3 good times! Well, we all know what happened afterwards.

Let's leave a door open for those still identify with us.

Consider those ones or consider the whole tribe?
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 9:26am On Oct 07, 2018
GuyWise:

I don't think that will ever happen but if they decided to come back in the Igbo fold people like me wouldn't accept them with full heart, to me it will be better they remain they are.

Don't mind him.

Seems he wasn't old enough when the other calamity happened, he just wants to experience it in his lifetime.
No be only accept
Re: . by superlightning: 9:33am On Oct 07, 2018
InyinyaAgbaOku:


Consider those ones or consider the whole tribe?

If you consider those sincere ones (who are ikwerre) as Igbo, you have also considered ikwerre as our people too. You can't give them a new name. They are Igbo people of ikwerre stock (I'm referring to those sincere ones)
Re: . by superlightning: 9:36am On Oct 07, 2018
InyinyaAgbaOku:


Don't mind him.

Seems he wasn't old enough when the other calamity happened, he just wants to experience it in his lifetime.
No be only accept

Go and read what the asagba of asaba said on vanguard news today about FORGIVENESS. Hating won't take you anywhere.

If ikwerre today humbles themselves and ask for forgiveness, I will forgive them.

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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 9:36am On Oct 07, 2018
superlightning:


If you consider those sincere ones (who are ikwerre) as Igbo, you have also considered ikwerre as our people too. You can't give them a new name. They are Igbo people of ikwerre stock (I'm referring to those sincere ones)

They should simply remain with the rest oftbwir Ikwerre people.
Let them stay where they are.
You seem not to understand the calamity that awaits your children from what you are saying, neither do you get the gravity of what's happening now.
You have been Igbo since birth but you want to accept Sb whose can alternate between been Igbo or BINI like 5 times in a year.
No, Sir

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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 9:38am On Oct 07, 2018
superlightning:


Go and read what the asagba of asaba said on vanguard news today about FORGIVENESS. Hating won't take you anywhere.

If ikwerre today humbles themselves and ask for forgiveness, I will forgive them.

Forgiveness is different from accepting one as your own.
They will forever being in the league of every other Yoruba, Hausa, Ijaw and Ibibio.
It's called self preservation.

Kuku conclude we Igbos don't have class, that's why we are harping on accepting People that hate, denigrate and deny ever having anything to do with you.
Oga, Biko stop this thing

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Re: . by superlightning: 9:41am On Oct 07, 2018
Osagyefo98:


The sit at home wasn't noticed in my area coz on that day business thrived and everywhere went normal as it used to be.

If there is total lock down in abia that doesn't means others have time for such madness.




None of my business coz he doesn't deliver food on my table. Let him contain his agitation to abia only, if other states want to join let them go over to abia.
But the peace we enjoy here must not be disturbed



@bolded the more reason he should concentrate his campaign there. Him and his people can't continue to insult other igbo state and expect their support.

Life doesn't work that way. There must be balance.

Continue saving face. Even major cities like Onitsha and Aba stood with ipob, why? Because ipob speaks their mind.

I know your qualms. Its because ipob isn't founded by an anambarian. Sorry eh, they must have lied to you that ONLY ANAMBARIANS have that kind of influence KANU wields.

By the way, uche mefor, the deputy is an anambarian.

Ndo.
Re: . by superlightning: 9:45am On Oct 07, 2018
InyinyaAgbaOku:


Forgiveness is different from accepting one as your own.
They will forever being in the league of every other Yoruba, Hausa, Ijaw and Ibibio.
It's called self preservation.

Kuku conclude we Igbos don't have class, that's why we are harping on accepting People that hate, denigrate and deny ever having anything to do with you.
Oga, Biko stop this thing

Hating back is not a show of class.

Anyway, your opinion is yours. Mine is mine.

If and only if they cry and beg like peter to be accepted, I will embrace them.
Re: . by onuebonyi: 9:48am On Oct 07, 2018
Please stop this rubbish. Why would anyone be proud of founding a rogue fraudulent group like ipob or massob? So if i may ask, where's Nnamdi Kanu and his ipob right now?

I was one person who never even wanted to have anything to do with ipob because they were dominated by bunch of illiterates recruited by Kanu from Aba. No sane person is ever comfortable with ipob. They have insulted anyone that ever disagreed with them.

Uwazurike is now enjoying the money he made from massob venture. Only fools joins an organization like ipob or massob.


superlightning:


Continue saving face. Even major cities like Onitsha and Aba stood with ipob, why? Because ipob speaks their mind.

I know your qualms. Its because ipob isn't founded by an anambarian. Sorry eh, they must lied to you that ONLY ANAMBARIANS have that kind of influence KANU wields.

By the way, uche mefor, the deputy is an anambarian.

Ndo.
Re: . by superlightning: 9:49am On Oct 07, 2018
InyinyaAgbaOku:


They should simply remain with the rest oftbwir Ikwerre people.
Let them stay where they are.
You seem not to understand the calamity that awaits your children from what you are saying, neither do you get the gravity of what's happening now.
You have been Igbo since birth but you want to accept Sb whose can alternate between been Igbo or BINI like 5 times in a year.
No, Sir

Its not true. Not every ikwerre alternate between been Bini and being Igbo. Some have being Igbo since day one.

As of now let those who claim otherwise wraggle in their identity crisis. When their head is finally clear, we will then know next to do.
Re: . by superlightning: 9:54am On Oct 07, 2018
onuebonyi:
Please stop this rubbish. Why would anyone be proud of founding a rogue fraudulent group like ipob or massob? So if i may ask, where's Nnamdi Kanu and his ipob right now?

I was one person who never even wanted to have anything to do with ipob because they were dominated by bunch of illiterates recruited by Kanu from Aba. No sane person is ever comfortable with ipob. They have insulted anyone that ever disagreed with them.

Uwazurike is now enjoying the money he made from massob venture. Only fools joins an organization like ipob or massob.



Thank you. That's your opinion. I personally admire KANU because he has what your ohaneze does not have - integrity, courage and charisma.

I sympathize with ipob because I understand their pain and struggle.

Pls don't call the great KANU, in the same breadth with uwazurike the gluttonous narcissist of a Judas.
Re: . by onuebonyi: 10:02am On Oct 07, 2018
I don't care about Ohaneze or their likes. Kanu as a person might be a good orator but his youthful exuberance spoilt everything. If he had channelled the goodwill properly he would have been a political key player in deciding elections in the SE. But he started preaching of non election starting with Anambra as if a single state election means much.

I must give it to Kanu, he is an orator. He used his oratory to lure many to his fold. He is brave, very very brave and unwavering. All that he needed was an elderly advise to channel the strength and army of followers he has at his beck and call.

He would have used ipob as a political tool to influence elections and subsequently enthrone people that can push for referendum in the legislative assembly.

Well he has done his own bit.


superlightning:


Thank you. That's your opinion. I personally admire KANU because he has what your ohaneze does not have - integrity, courage and charisma.

I sympathize with ipob because I understand their pain and struggle.

Pls don't call the great KANU, in the same breadth with uwazurike the gluttonous narcissist of a Judas.
Re: . by superlightning: 10:09am On Oct 07, 2018
onuebonyi:
I don't care about Ohaneze or their likes. Kanu as a person might be a good orator but his youthful exuberance spoilt everything. If he had channelled the goodwill properly he would have been a political key player in deciding elections in the SE. But he started preaching of non election starting with Anambra as if a single state a election means much.

He would have used ipob as a political tool to influence elections and subsequently enthrone people that can push for referendum in the legislative assembly.

Well he has done his own bit.



MASSOB used that tactics, yet they got compromised, conflicted and corrupted by Nigerian politics.

David Cameron of britain understands how fantastically corrupt nigerian politicians are.

By the way, KANU didn't stop those who wanted to vote from voting. He only exonerated ipob from taking part in elections considering how corrupt southeast politicians are from Abia to IMO to ANAMBRA to Enugu to Ebonyi .

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Re: . by pazienza(m): 10:16am On Oct 07, 2018
superlightning:


Hating back is not a show of class.

Anyway, your opinion is yours. Mine is mine.

If and only if they cry and beg like peter to be accepted, I will embrace them.

In national matters, nations don't show love to Nations who show hate to them. You show an even greater hate to groups How show hate towards you. If they know you hate and wouldn't waste time to fatally decimate them, should they try to exhibit their hate towards you, it would keep them in check.
Take a look at Israel and how she deals with surrounding hateful nations around her. She replies their hate with even more hate. Throw one bomb at Israel and Israel would throw several bombs at their living quarters and market places, decimating both their young and women alike in the process, ensuring the are left in anguish and pain. Which would serve as deterance to them in future. What stops nations from attacking each other is not love, it's hate. It's called MAD. Once you know that the other nation is capable of administering the kind of hate you have towards them, towards you, it keeps every one in check, and ensures relative peace reigns. Once you give any group the impression that they can exhibit hate towards you, without getting burnt by a greater hate from you to them in the process, you have made yourself a sitting duck.
This is group survival 101.

That's how it works.

Trust is a delicate issue, once broken can never be repaired.
Ikwerre and other Igbo hating Igboid groups can never be truly accepted into Igbo nation again. There will be lingering issue of suspicion. I can never truly accept an Ikwerre man that says he is Igbo, I would immediately see him as an opportunist or a mole, and he would have to do alot of convincing via his works to win me over, and when he is done with such, he would likely look back and observe that he isnt truly welcomed, seeing as he was made to go through lots of pain to be accepted.

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Re: . by superlightning: 10:28am On Oct 07, 2018
pazienza:


In national matters, nations don't show love to Nations who show hate to them. You show an even greater hate to groups How show hate towards you. If they know you hate and wouldn't waste time to fatally decimate them, should they try to exhibit their hate towards you, it would keep them in check.
Take a look at Israel and how she deals with surrounding hateful nations around her. She replies their hate with even more hate. Throw one bomb at Israel and Israel would throw several bombs at their living quarters and market places, decimating both their young and women alike in the process, ensuring the are left in anguish and pain. Which would serve as deterance to them in future. What stops nations from attacking each other is not love, it's hate. It's called MAD. Once you know that the other nation is capable of administering the kind of hate you have towards them, towards you, it keeps every one in check, and ensures relative peace reigns. Once you give any group the impression that they can exhibit hate towards you, without getting burnt by a greater hate from you to them in the process, you have made yourself a sitting duck.
This is group survival 101.

That's how it works.

Trust is a delicate issue, once broken can never be repaired.
Ikwerre and other Igbo hating Igboid groups can never be truly accepted into Igbo nation again. There will be lingering issue of suspicion. I can never truly accept an Ikwerre man that says he is Igbo, I would immediately see him as an opportunist or a mole, and he would have to do alot of convincing via his works to win me over, and when he is done with such, he would likely look back and observe that he isnt truly welcomed.

I understand where you are coming from, TRUST ISSUES. For the fact that they have been forgiven and welcomed back into fold does not mean you trust them. They will have to earn the trust, I know. Here are a few things to do in checking them while reabsorbing them :

1. Sensitive Igbo leadership posts must be censored from them. They themselves will understand why, until they prove beyond every reasonable doubt, to earn our trust. A cheating spouse may still be accommodated by other because of a lot of factors, but when it comes to sex, flirting, fidelity issues, they will be kept at an arms length.

2. While embracing them as igbos , riot act will be read to them on the consequence of going back to their vomit. That will let them know that there are irreconcilable consequences of denying their brothers TWICE.
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 11:02am On Oct 07, 2018
superlightning:


Its not true. Not every ikwerre alternate between been Bini and being Igbo. Some have being Igbo since day one.

As of now let those who claim otherwise wraggle in their identity crisis. When their head is finally clear, we will then know next to do.

Good luck, obviously you dey find brothers.
Igbos are complete as far as I am concerned

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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 11:07am On Oct 07, 2018
Obollo Eke, Nsukka

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Re: . by Curlieweed: 11:07am On Oct 07, 2018
InyinyaAgbaOku:


Good luck, obviously you dey find brothers.
Igbos are complete as far as I am concerned

Thank you, my brother.

Just because he has been Igbo all his life, he thinks it’s easy to become Igbo.

He just wants to extend the privilege to anybody that can pronounce “bia”.

What an insult to our ancestors!

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Re: . by Nobody: 11:35am On Oct 07, 2018
Just coming in live from Port Harcourt :
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Aminu Tambuwal at second place




lhaji Sule Lamido 96 votes

Senator Rabiu Kwankwanso gets 158 votes

Senator Bukola Saraki 317 votes

Alh Dankwanbo 111 votes

Ahmed makarfi 74 votes

Datti Ahmed 5 votes

Alh Bafarawa 48 votes

Kabiru Turaki 65 votes

Sen David Mark 35

Jang:19

AMINU TAMBUWAL: 693
Re: . by superlightning: 11:41am On Oct 07, 2018
InyinyaAgbaOku pot=71860690:


Good luck, obviously you dey find brothers.
Igbos are complete as far as I am concerned

No. I believe in reconciliation if the opportunity shows itself.
Re: . by superlightning: 11:44am On Oct 07, 2018
Curlieweed:


Thank you, my brother.

Just because he has been Igbo all his life, he thinks it’s easy to become Igbo.

He just wants to extend the privilege to anybody that can pronounce “bia”.

What an insult to our ancestors!

Which ancestors? They will rather be insulted by your unforgiving nature. Onye aghala nwanne ya.

For now, i wont go chasing them to identify with us, but if they themselves run to us sincerely asking to be taken back realising that they were misled by their fathers, I will forgive them but they will have to earn my trust, and they will get it if they prove themselves worthy.
Re: . by Nobody: 12:00pm On Oct 07, 2018
ITS OFFICIAL Atiku wins
Atiku Abubakar vs Muhammadu Buhari 2019 PDP. APC
Who are you going to vote for come 2019?

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