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Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Originalsly: 12:36pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
CodeTemplar: You make me laugh in gigabytes!...but noooo.....the tithes never do reach God nor the poor....so you tell me who is the devourer?? 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by steve13(m): 12:42pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Originakalokalo: But you don't LOVE THEIR NEIGHBOURS, THEY DON'T GIVE TO LESS PRIVILEGED, you just want to pay tithe to receive double ?? Do they pay tithe in JAPAN? |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Brock1: 1:05pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Who told u its difficult for me to pay 10% tithe? I am a full supporter of paying tithe, I can even give more than 10%. ' bring ye all d tithes and offerings into my house, so their will be food and meat in my house ' wen u av in excess u can shed some out. All I am advocating for is Christian to stop pretending, dat why d Muslim call us hypocrite {though they av their own issues too} Muslim don't zakat monthly as much as we give in church and they are prospering. We give in Christendom, our givings shouldn't only b only pastor's flamboyant living , building of physical structure churches going out for missionaries, we should summon ourselves to give and use it for betterment of humanity. Crime rate is higher in region where poverty abound. Let's take charge of world economy, build industries, build quality and affordable schools, go into farming, preach reality, guide us right in way of life ( e.g alot of our girls are semi or pro-prostitutes, Wat r they looking for most? MONEY) Wen we rise and establish necessary mechanism, we can choose to have prayer room and time at work. Or av u not seen Muslim going for prayer during working hours?. Aside from dat Christians have missed d light, what happened to d likes of Jesus(greater is d work I did, u will do if u believe) , apostle Paul and others that would pray and get answer instantly, sick ppl got healing, dead being raised, physical angelic visitations in prisons, etc. But today, cast and bind no wan work? Healing only works in church and not in hospitals. Ppl dat fall during anointing is it real or they are aiding and abetting d crime in church Alot of pastors are out there hypnotizing and tricking ppl and call it miracle. Habba nelsonoba: |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by CodeTemplar: 1:15pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Originalsly:The tithe reaches the poor as far as I know. maybe for some churches but that doesn't make a pastor the devourer. Never. |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by CodeTemplar: 1:19pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
openmine:Your epistle clearly doesn't answer a simple question even you acknowledged in your story. How can I get the devourer rebuked? |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Nobody: 1:23pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
openmine: Did u even read my comment.... |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Originalsly: 1:24pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
CodeTemplar: Your thread....simple question....who is the devourer? |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by CodeTemplar: 1:25pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Originalsly:The same one in the bible Malachi 3 |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Sleekfingers: 1:27pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Any pastor collecting tithes is a thief.... Did your Jew man called Jesus collect tithes? Did he preach about it....or did he emphasizes on it... So why all these useless pastors collecting it eg adeboye, oyakilome, tb Joshua, adefarasin and other useless pastors... |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by dsealofGod(m): 1:35pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Originakalokalo: My question to you : Are you are Pharisees or a Jew? If yes then the woes are for you. If no, then read Gal 3:10, and Gal 3:23-26 Show me just one verse from the Bible where Jesus or the Apostles collected or paid tithe? Does it means they won't make heaven? Christ is the end/purpose of the law. In Christ the law of Moses died. The law has done its job - to bring the Jews to Christ. Gal 3:23-26. |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by openmine(m): 1:36pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:The devourer is gotten from the Malachi 3:10-12 scriptures right? Now you asked how you could rebuke the devourer....and I asked which covenant are you currently observing? Is it the old covenant whose laws contain the tithes and devourer or is it the new covenant that contains grace and the finished work on the cross? Its impossible to be in the new covenant and receive punishment from the old covenant where Malachi 3:10-12 is coined from.... |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by femi4: 1:36pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor and gave him the name above all other names, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth.” –Philippians 2:9-10. Jesus is greater than any form of devourer. You need Jesus now not tithe to rebuke the devourer. Same way you no longer need an animal's blood to wash away your sin but Jesus' blood |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by withchristalone(m): 1:40pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Malachi 1v1: God is talking to the people of Israelite as a nation. This will explain Malachi 3v8. Further your readings to Malachi 3v12 (all nations) which are not Israelite. With this little pieces of the word of God there is no devourer of any kind; which Matt 23v23 gives us a clear clue towards what God wants from his people and (Heb 7v11-12) settled it. |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by openmine(m): 1:42pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
1StopRudeness: I did though some parts weren't explicit due to some typos all over the comment..... Though,I thought you wanted to find out what change before and after the crucifixion of Christ..which was what I tried to explain using romans 13:8-10! However,if you feel I misunderstood you writings,please help make it clearer so I can give you a better response! |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Yankee101: 2:02pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
There's nothing wrong with a tithe. Muslims's zakat and atheists' charity are forms of giving. It's the way the Nigerian preacher presents it that is wrong. When in doubt visit the same bible and read to understand yourself. It says clearly how to spend your tithe. 'Give to the widows, the orphans, soujourners (strangers/poor people/needy), priests (back in the day this type of priest was a Levi who had no inheritance, job or business in Israel but only to serve - but today Christians have become all royal priests under the everlasting order of Melchizedek. So first to the people of the household of Christ give, not necessarily your pastor) and from time to time use it to take yourself and your family to a place you like (parks, resorts, holidays) and eat what your heart desires (good healthy food - so that the tithe sometimes will help you enjoy life and bond your family together) When your neighbour is dying because they don't have food or medication or can't afford a surgery and it's in your power to help but you rather take it to your flashy mega church pastor that can raise billions in one month, even in your heart you know you are lying to yourself and that this offering was not acceptable. The same bible says when your neighbour comes to you don't turn him away when it's within your power to help Prov 3 28 Do not say to your neighbor, “Come back tomorrow and I'll give it to you”— when you already have it with you. 1 John 3 17 If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Tejiriseth(m): 2:10pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Yeah of all them things mentioned, where did Jesu say people should pay tithe in Monetary form.! . . . . Originakalokalo: |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by BERNIMOORE: 3:02pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
What was jesus talking About here? was he upholding the Law? Originakalokalo: Jesus came during the Law! with significance: (His coming, His presence, and His Death) His coming was not to abolish the Law, But ''Jesus Death'' Ended the law...That includes Tithe 1 Like
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Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by arrestdarrester: 3:31pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
How did the Apostles rebuke the devourer, especially Apostle Paul? |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Nobody: 3:32pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
God's got his laws... he has the law for giving, the law for health, the law for protection... it's all in the Bible... Giving is part of the law of prosperity, if you want more money and favour to yourself, then is crucial to pay your tithes... Tithes is God's number one agreement with a Christian, and if you deny that from him, then your cheating God, and the funniest thing is, you can't cheat God... If you do that(by withdrawing from paying your tithes), your undoing yourself, because you've posted your financial prosperity from protection( the hedge), and the devil can come in and devour what he wants to devour from you... So always stay protected by staying under God's cover. |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Ketshi: 4:04pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: I think many people misunderstand tithing, the old and new covenants. First, the covenants were about salvation and our relationship with God. When the old covenant was instituted, it was to expose the weakness of the flesh and make the people see the need of a saviour so they will accept His salvation. Israelites had a self righteous belief that hindered them from the best God planned so the law came. Gal 3:19. Abraham paid tithe, so tithing predates the law. In Christ time, taxes were paid and till now we still pay tax. Is it now right to say that we should not pay tax because we are born again. I'll advise you study on what the tithe was to be used for and then if you still expect the priest to be in the temple always, what will they noe eat? Tithe is a command from God, its not a requirement for salvation but there's a blessing in it |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by sweetilicious(f): 4:48pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Originakalokalo:Am following. |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by paxonel(m): 7:40pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Why will a reasonable christian keep distorting money from his fellow christians using a law called tithing that was never practiced in christianity but in judaism? Do they realise that old testament including malachi was judaism and not christianity? It's like a muslim telling christians because there was one man paying tithe in the quran therefore christians should come and pay tithe, does that make sense? 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Ovamboland(m): 9:36pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
RealityShot:. Una weldone o, you have sown be back the torn veil and made the coming of Christ of no effect in your life It's a tragedy if any Christian does not know that the tithing system is tied directly to the sacrificial system which Christ has abolished for christians in Hebrew 7. If the system was described as useless and unprofitable, why is any Christian looking for profit and safety from devourers from vestiges of that same system? Is it not insulting to the Almighty God that you must pay Him before he will move his hand. God that blessed unbelievers who don't know Him will ask his children to pay first before doing more for them, what a big insult. 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Ovamboland(m): 9:48pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
nelsonoba: The money was immaterial, the principle has to do with lying to the Holy Spirit and decieving the brethren. If they had refused to give any part or only half of the money and owned up, nothing would have happened to them. 2 Likes |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by BERNIMOORE: 10:53pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Ovamboland: i loved the way you just sift the grain from the dirt here, whenever the Yahoo Tithe Mongers see any verse discusing giving Money or contributing Money in bible, Heyyyyyyyyy....They Authomatically Apply the Business angle of Money Sharpally |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Ovamboland(m): 6:44am On Oct 29, 2018 |
ollah2: They make it appear the devil is doing a better job of blessing his children. Since they say if you are not born again you are of the devil. How many of the ten richest people profess to be born again? |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Ovamboland(m): 6:49am On Oct 29, 2018 |
openmine: He's in bondage to believe tithe=money. That's why he's looking at as currency, can you imagine a Christian saying what Ananias and his wife was to pay is a tithe. Ehn, 100% tithe, 50% tithe, can you imagine how far they've messed up modern Christian minds, with this situation are we sure rapture has not taken place centuries ago and we're already in hell or tribulations? 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by openmine(m): 8:22am On Oct 29, 2018 |
Ketshi:Bro can I ask you some few questions? Was Abraham under any obligation whatsoever to offer the war spoils which you refer to as tithes? Where there laws or instructions from God to Abraham to give a 10th of war spoils after rescuing his cousin lot? If you said these were "unspoken instructions" about tithe(which I doubt based on what is written in the bible),then what about circumcision and burnt offerings whose instructions were clearly spelt out by God in the bible? Burnt offerings and circumcision were not just instructions from God to Abraham for identity but also predated the law also....why are you not observing them? Let's even believe that the laws of tithe as written in the law of moses was still in effect,why are most of the pastors going contrary to the "instructions of tithing" in Deuteronomy 14:22-29? |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by openmine(m): 8:28am On Oct 29, 2018 |
Ovamboland:As in ehh....e just tire me! |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by ebbyudom(m): 10:19am On Oct 29, 2018 |
My question as regards this is that if tithing as you have implied is still relevant today then why aren't we practising true, undiluted tithing? For exampl e.g why don't we tithe in goods rather than cash? Secondly, why is it that those who rather tithe in cash no longer pay an additional 20% as mandated in the Bible,? Thirdly, remember the Levites were not allowed to do any other work or to own landed properties, but to live a sober life devoted to the things of God. So why do our pastors of today use tithe proceeds to satisfy their material/carnal cravings? Originakalokalo: |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Brock1: 10:06pm On Oct 29, 2018 |
Ovamboland: |
Re: Anti-tithers, How Can I Get The Devourer Rebuked? by Danabu(m): 12:37am On Oct 30, 2018 |
Originakalokalo: Before he died and rose form the dead. His death and rising changed the game! |
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