There seem to be a preconception and opinion held by a lot of church folks and their leaders that President buhari is a religious bigot, a devil's advocate, an ethnic jingoist, a paedophile, an agent of darkness, the real enemy etc.

And this led to them not only denouncing him as such, but also extending such disapproval to anyone that supports or associates with him.

And moreover there have been several curses rained by some church leaders from the pulpit, upon his person and leadership of the nation, and also the support that he enjoys, such as that the popular unleashing of "the gates of hell" upon his ambition and campaign of becoming president of the nation by one of them, and the others who prophesied of his death, amongst others.

However in spite of all this opposition, attacks, and curses his person and his support base has endued from the church front, he not only won the presidential elections at the time, but also against the odds became the first democratic elected president to unseat an incumbent.

Then he got really sick to even the point of death, that it was already being rumoured and celebrated in some quarters that he had died, inclusive of church folks, but out of the hopeless situation and shadows of death he emerged to be stronger and better health-wise than he had been prior to the state of his health before taken ill.

And then the instance of his VP, who has been demonized and blacklisted by church folks and her leaders only brought upon him by the reason of his association with President Buhari, unusually surviving a usually fatal helicopter crash, to the extent that after the crash, he and the passengers with him who all survived the crash were able to seamlessly continue with their initial plans and program for the day as though nothing ever happened.

And now to add to all these, in spite of the strong opposition yet of such ones of the church and their church leaders to his reelection bid, the elections results released thus far appear to have all but confirm that his reelection was already a settled matter even before it happened?

So going by all these signs, if president Buhari was indeed all that the church folks say that he is, then tell me why God is not answering their prayers or granting the wishes of such so called "men of God" and also such church folks who think that they are children of God?

I believe one serious lesson that the church can benefit from this contrary results to their prayers and expectations is that God doesn't follow man, but it's man that ought to follow God, otherwise man would be seen to walking on his own.

Maybe that's the reason for the extent of the lack of backing that today's church is receiving from God, because God cannot back something that hardly represents His interest, purpose, plans, judgments, and His Word.

So it's up to the church to learn and hence begin to align itself with God's agenda, otherwise it would only find itself being left completely out of it.

A word is enough for the wise.

You are a joker, which results released so far are you talking about? Mumu

Obadiah 1:4
Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.

This is the word of the Lord to all the workers of evil and wickedness

Why not be specific with your accusation of people raining curse from the pulpit upon Buhari's Presidency.
Be specific with your words and stop concocting weighty things on a faceless forum.

And my prayer remains God let the best candidate win!!!

jesusjnr:
There seem to be a preconception and opinion held by a lot of church folks and their leaders that President buhari is a religious bigot, a devil's advocate, an ethnic jingoist, a paedophile, an agent of darkness, the real enemy etc.

And this led to them not only denouncing him as such, but also extending such disapproval to anyone that supports or associates with him.


And moreover there have been several curses rained by some church leaders from the pulpit, upon his person and leadership of the nation, and also the support that he enjoys, such as that the popular unleashing of "the gates of hell" upon his ambition and campaign of becoming president of the nation by one of them, and the others who prophesied of his death, amongst others.

However in spite of all this opposition, attacks, and curses his person and his support base has endued from the church front, he not only won the presidential elections at the time, but also against the odds became the first democratic elected president to unseat an incumbent.

Then he got really sick to even the point of death, that it was already being rumoured and celebrated in some quarters that he had died, inclusive of church folks, but out of the hopeless situation and shadows of death he emerged to be stronger and better health-wise than he had been prior to the state of his health before taken ill.

And then the instance of his VP, who has been demonized and blacklisted by church folks and her leaders only brought upon him by the reason of his association with President Buhari, unusually surviving a usually fatal helicopter crash, to the extent that after the crash, he and the passengers with him who all survived the crash were able to seamlessly continue with their initial plans and program for the day as though nothing ever happened.

And now to add to all these, in spite of the strong opposition yet of such ones of the church and their church leaders to his reelection bid, the elections results released thus far appear to have all but confirm that his reelection was already a settled matter even before it happened?

So going by all these signs, if president Buhari was indeed all that the church folks say that he is, then tell me why God is not answering their prayers or granting the wishes of such so called "men of God" and also such church folks who think that they are children of God?

I believe one serious lesson that the church can benefit from this contrary results to their prayers and expectations is that God doesn't follow man, but it's man that ought to follow God, otherwise man would be seen to walking on his own.

Maybe that's the reason for the extent of the lack of backing that today's church is receiving from God, because God cannot back something that hardly represents His interest, purpose, plans, judgments, and His Word.

So it's up to the church to learn and hence begin to align itself with God's agenda, otherwise it would only find itself being left completely out of it.

A word is enough for the wise.

I have no doubt that your hatred for Oyedepo in particular will lead you to illogical conclusions.

How was "gate of hell" statement directed towards Buhari or APC?

Vinstel:
You are a joker, which results released so far are you talking about? Mumu

OK you seem to be living under a stone, as you are not following the official results being released at polling units, ward level, and even LGA etc. for instance that of Ado-Ekiti?

Well i didn't need for the election to take place first before knowing the obvious outcome, but for the likes of you that needed such, only a matter of time before we'd find out who the real mumu is.

CodeTemplar:

I have no doubt that your hatred for Oyedepo in particular will lead you to illogical conclusions.

How was "gate of hell" statement directed towards Buhari or APC?

don't mind the cow ballsack

CodeTemplar:

I have no doubt that your hatred for Oyedepo in particular will lead you to illogical conclusions.

How was "gate of hell" statement directed towards Buhari or APC?

OK you already knew who I was talking about and yet you were the one challenging to name names.

So how did you know that I had hatred for Oyedepo, if I had not named him severally?

keep deceiving yourself you blind followers of the blind church leaders.

You are really making your master and lords proud!

jesusjnr:
OK you seem to be living under a stone, as you are not following the official results being released at polling units, ward level, and even LGA etc. for instance that of Ado-Ekiti?

Well i didn't need for the election to take place first before knowing the obvious outcome, but for the likes of you that needed such, only a matter of time before we'd find out who the real mumu is.

You're the one living under a stone, better go to the unofficial results thread on nairaland and follow latest details and stop living in your fool's paradise

CodeTemplar:

I have no doubt that your hatred for Oyedepo in particular will lead you to illogical conclusions.

How was "gate of hell" statement directed towards Buhari or APC?

we Christians are worse hypocrites, we are worse sentimental about our things and our leaders. we go as far as defending their atrocity even when it is obvious.

SEGLIZ:

we Christians are worse hypocrites, we are worse sentimental about our things and our leaders. we go as far as defending their atrocity even when it is obvious.

Are you speaking of the atrocities of Oyedepo and the likes of him?

hisgrace090:
And my prayer remains God let the best candidate win!!!

I don't pray such prayers any longer because I have come realize that the most chanced candidates are selected by a small group of mostly anti-God party members at the primaries. Like in 2015, this time I didn't bother voting because the best candidates have been rigged out at the party level and what we are seeing are candidates that are ready to protect their respective backing cabals.

Look at all Dasuki has gone through in the hands of Buhari in the last four years, I believe he stole and should suffer but what right has Ameachi and Tinubu got to be roaming free as regional and political godfathers and a minister to Buhari?

To that OP talking trash indirectly at Oyedepo, he should remember the story of Pharaoh and Moses, the sent. The children of Israel, which we as saints have become one with spiritually, cried to God but it didn't lead to pharaoh yielding the first time.

SEGLIZ:

we Christians are worse hypocrites, we are worse sentimental about our things and our leaders. we go as far as defending their atrocity even when it is obvious.

I suspect you are OP with another account because of your indirect style of dropping weighty and unsubstantiated allegations. Be specific here.

Vinstel:

You're the one living under a stone, better go to the unofficial results thread on nairaland and follow latest details and stop living in your fool's paradise

My response to you in a nutshell.


And i want you to respond to this.

jesusjnr:
OK you already knew who I was talking about and yet you were the one challenging to name names.

So how did you know that I had hatred for Oyedepo, if I had not named him severally?

keep deceiving yourself you blind followers of the blind church leaders.

You are really making your master and lords proud!

Never willing to address issues logically but quick to attack persons.

jesusjnr:
Are you speaking of the atrocities of Oyedepo and the likes of him?

my bro I don't want to handpick or call names so as not be like attacking some selected personality.
but at times I don't feel like church as a result of our practices, I want to practice Jesus not religion - Jesus preaches Love nothing more but our pastors preaches religion.
they make us see non-Christian as what? Evil while they are not, do you expect a man you show hostility to return love for it? we tell a man to his face he is evil when he is trying to be nice and expect him to be happy with us?

MrPresident1:
Obadiah 1:4
Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.

This is the word of the Lord to all the workers of evil and wickedness

Oyedepo spoke against troublers of this nation and they say he was speaking against Buhari and APC so be careful before they tag you a blind follower of Oyedepo.

SEGLIZ:

my bro if handpick or call names so not be like attacking some selected personality.
but is at times I don't feel like church as a result of our practices, I want to practice Jesus not religion - Jesus preaches Love nothing more but our pastors preaches religion.
they make us see non-Christian as what? Evil while they are not, do you expect a man you show hostility to return love for it? we tell a man to his face he is evil when he is trying to be nice and expect to be happy with you?

Bro oh i feel you!

You know how far, and I understand your concerns but I want to let you know that when Jesus was here on Earth based on how He attacked such characters of His day in the house of God, He would be probably mentioning Oyedepo's name even more than I do, because such are the ones He personally called blind guides.

So men if Jesus would have to be here Himself for such ones to be put in their rightful place then what is my use of being here, I would be a waste of His follower.

CodeTemplar:
Oyedepo spoke against troublers of this nation and they say he was speaking against Buhari and APC so be careful before they tag you a blind follower of Oyedepo.

I hope you can hear yourself you blind hypocrite!

Because it's your lord and master Oyedepo, then he doesn't have to quote anyone when he curses or speaks against people, but you would carry that your double standard and come and accuse me of that?

I don't blame you at all, because when someone has been blinded darkness becomes his light!

CodeTemplar:
I suspect you are OP with another account because of your indirect style of dropping weighty and unsubstantiated allegations. Be specific here.

op ko op ni.
that is it, what have just said, it will be unsubstantiated because our leaders are being called to question. even when everyone could see it Chrystal clear.
I nobi op, so no even go der. let's face the facts, rid the church of its evil if you won't in turn get a better social system.

MrPresident1:
Obadiah 1:4
Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.

This is the word of the Lord to all the workers of evil and wickedness

May the Will of God In heaven be done in Nigeria and not that of any man. Amennnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

jesusjnr:
I hope you can hear yourself you blind hypocrite!

Because it's your lord and master Oyedepo, then he doesn't have to quote anyone when he curses or speaks against people, but you would carry that your double standard and come and accuse me of that?

I don't blame you at all, because when someone has been blinded darkness becomes his light!

The "gates of hades" was what made it to media headlines. Oyedepo is always very specific when he speaks. He never accused APC or Buhari and of sponsoring Herdsmen killers, BH, Land grabbers and ritualists massacring people like chickens. He spoke against those as well as the sponsors of violence. Go and check his tapes on YouTube and also check all the prayer points raised in all prayer and fasting session for rescue of Nigeria so far.

CodeTemplar:
The "gates of hades" was what made it to media headlines. Oyedepo is always very specific when he speaks. He never accused APC or Buhari and of sponsoring Herdsmen killers, BH, Land grabbers and ritualists massacring people like chickens. He spoke against those as well as the sponsors of violence. Go and check his tapes on YouTube and also check all the prayer points raised in all prayer and fasting session for rescue of Nigeria so far.

So why didn't you accuse him or put it to him to be specific as you've done in my case?

But instead you are using the same thing you used to confront me to defend him, so what does that say of you, if not a two-faced double-standard, hypocritical, blind sheeple.

Of course i'm not your lord and master so why use the same yardstick for me?

Vinstel:

You're the one living under a stone, better go to the unofficial results thread on nairaland and follow latest details and stop living in your fool's paradise

You seem to have gone into hiding because I brought some results from where you told me to go to, and you suddenly were no where to be found.

So you have hence proven who the real mumu is or do we still have to wait?

jesusjnr:
So why didn't you accuse him or put it to him to be specific as you've done in my case?

But instead you are using the same thing you used to confront me to defend him, so what does that say of you, if not a two-faced double-standard, hypocritical, blind sheeple.

Of course i'm not your lord and master so why use the same yardstick for me?

Stop feigning stupidity and ignorance at same time. I said Oyedepo has always been specific and so there was no need telling me to ask Oyedepo to be specific. You can't face issues for what they are yet you are first to attack and pretend as if you care about issues.

jesusjnr:
You seem to have gone into hiding because I brought some results from where you told me to go to, and you suddenly were no where to be found.

So you have hence proven who the real mumu is or do we still have to wait?

If not for the fact that hate has consumed you, you should be more concerned about the violence and lack of activities being orchestrated in opposition strongholds. Igbo dominated areas in Lagos saw a lot of unprovoked violence and ballot destruction and that didn't bother you as a renewed being. You are more concerned about spiting Oyedepo. Carry on.

CodeTemplar:
Stop feigning stupidity and ignorance at same time. I said Oyedepo has always been specific and so there was no need telling me to ask Oyedepo to be specific. You can't face issues for what they are yet you are first to attack and pretend as if you care about issues.

It strange the length you go to to defend your lord and master, even when you have nothing to do so.

How do you mean specific? Did he name anyone?

When I did same without naming anyone you said I wasn't specific, so what did I do that he didn't do, or what did I not do that he did?

At least try and be consistent with your accusations, and not accuse someone of something wrong, but when someone else does exactly the same thing you use it to justify him. Does that show fairness to you?

You know very well Oyedepo hates President Buhari with a passion, and that that utterance "gates of hell" was directed at him, just like my quoting it was directed at him, Oyedepo.

So if you like keep dancing around the truth but how can a spiritual blind be able to see the truth? So i fully understand.

But speaking of the gates of hell, it seems that's where your lord and master Oyedepo gets his power from, that's why it is so toothless thus far.

#powerlesspower

CodeTemplar:
If not for the fact that hate has consumed you, you should be more concerned about the violence and lack of activities being orchestrated in opposition strongholds. Igbo dominated areas in Lagos saw a lot of unprovoked violence and ballot destruction and that didn't bother you as a renewed being. You are more concerned about spiting Oyedepo. Carry on.

If Oyedepo doesn't want me to hate him, he should repent from his deception of the flock or leave the church, maybe go into business or something else, because he's one of the reasons many christian are very covetous and corrupt and don't care about moral values any more because of his false teachings, which gives the impression that it's all about the money, and being a man of integrity means nothing.

So nobody wants to be poor because to be poor is a curse, so they have to steal, so that they won't be cursed.

So already Oyedepo is a cursed man, despite being rich, because he's not rich towards God.

Love this soul

Yes and The Church is bungling.

lightblazingnow:
Love this soul

Bless your soul.