rvp20182:
IVM plant - re-badging plant. Post for us a video.

I posted the plant and I got banned - which is now happening alot - because you morons cannot stand the truth - even as your regress deeper and deeper into shocking poverty.

Mobius plant is KVM Thika (now they are moving into their own plant) - Mobius is designed and built in kenya - only the Engine is imported.

kikuyu1:


Thanks for that! I notice even intelligent exposed Kenyans are surprisingly susceptible to anti Chinese propaganda and fake news. Once it takes hold you can't tell them anything!
Case in point, the imminent Mombasa port repossession story.

samorobo:


Please do those guys are fire. I have seen them on other thread I literally went dormant. They are so insulting, but the worst is that OGBONTI DUDE. That one is bomb

68816419:

Ur president and his cabinets are profound criminal...

68816419:

Ur president and his cabinets are profound criminal...

rvp20182:
You'll find such articles funded or written by Western as Chines eat their challenges. The true story about Kenya SGR is great success. The NBO-MSA railway was constructed in record 3yrs - and began passengers services in June 2017 - and cargo in jan 2018. For passengers - four trains - two trains each direction ply the route daily. For Cargo - we began with 1 train in Jan - and kept adding a train every year - and now we are doing 14 trains each direction - about 28 trains per days.

Here is the chinese ambassador to Kenya take.

We believe SGR is economically viable. Note that in first year of operations, Mombasa-Nairobi SGR has earned Sh10.33 billion, which is close to the operating cost of Sh12 billion. It’s never easy for a railway project to achieve nearly break-even in a year. Kenyan and Chinese operators deserve credit for that achievement. China has full confidence in Kenya’s ability to make profits from SGR.

rvp20182:
Abuja-Airport - carries 400 passengers. That phase cost 800M dolars in construction. Enough said. Show me a more wasteful investment in the entire planet and that Abuja light train will be up there.

Abuja-Kaduna - has done 1.5M passengers and zero cargo - 3yrs (1,000 days). MSA-NBO has done 3M passenger in 2yrs. What MSA-NBO does in 350 days - Nigeria's Abuja-Kaduna - do in 1,000 years.

Annually Abuja-Kaduna - carries about 0.6M passengers - which daily translate about 2,000 passengers - or 1,000 passenger one-way - assuming it has two trains - one going either direction.

Let not talk about CARGO - the main job of SGR is transport cargo - otherwise it would be wasted investment if you made it a light rail.

I am not sure how your expect to recoup money from rail - doing such kind of insanity. Entire Lagos-Kano was to cost 12B dollars - and but nearly 15yrs later - only Abuja-Kaduna section is complete - as your federal gov struggle with funding issues.

Kenya is miles ahead of your wasteful and incompetent gov..

kikuyu1:


Yes, 30 kids go missing daily out of a 50 mn pop. There's things I've seen here about the fate of Naij kids I'D REALLY REALLY RATHER NOT MENTION.

Problemkid1:
Who wants to travel to that dangerous country. I rather die here in Nigeria

68816419:

Ur president and his cabinets are profound criminal...

theenchanter:
nice, I've seen the mobius workshop, not yet a production line.

samorobo:


No one. I personally can think of endangering my self

samorobo:


Common get out.I will not stop believing a reputable source just so I can settle for your ginger constructed lie.
Your sgr is a joke and it will never see the light if the day.
No one will lend you anymore cos you are resourcesless

samorobo:


Ogbeni u be oponu
Why didn't you quote me directly when I posted it after all it was you I quote. You had to keep your coward ass aside an wait for your fellow Taahira to pull up that article so you can talk .
You knew were I was heading to Taahira,

samorobo:


Don't repeat my question taahira.
Tell me which new report or blog list things like this 1),2),3)

68816419:

Ur president and his cabinets are profound criminal...

Jonraid:
For those saying that kenya's sgr is overpriced.Just look at the scope of works.Not all railways are the same!

Civil works

Build a single line Standard Gauge Railway line connecting Mombasa to Malaba.
Electrification of the infrastructure: to be installed in future.Install a line ready for future electrification
Build main freight exchange and passenger stations at Mombasa and Nairobi
Fence out the track throughout its length
Build Marshalling Yards at the Port of Mombasa and Nairobi hub

Phase 1 (Mombasa – Nairobi)

Route length = 472 kilometres
Total track length = 609 kilometres
Build intermediate freight exchange and passenger stations at Mariakani, Miasenyi, Voi, Mtito Andei, Kibwezi, Emali and Athi River
Build 23 crossing (passing) stations
Build 8 underpasses for animals within Tsavo National Park

Phase 2A (Nairobi – Naivasha)

Route length = 120 kilometres
Project incorporates construction of a 5.3 kilometres tunnel
Project will have a connection to proposed Industrial Parks planned for locations within Navaisha Sub-County and Narok County
Build intermediate freight exchange and passenger stations at Ongata Rongai, Ngong township, Mai Mahiu township, Suswa township Supply and Installation of Facilities, Locomotives and Rolling Stock
Supply and install signalling, communications and train controlling facility
Supply and install maintenance equipment at the maintenance depots
Supply and commission 56 locomotives
Supply and commission 40 passenger coaches
Supply and commission 1,620 freight wagons
Install water and electricity at every station

http://krc.co.ke/sgr-scope-of-works/

Jonraid:
Land compensation,labour wages,sgr type classification all play part into the cost.For instance Kenya has fenced it's railway from Mombasa all the way to Naivasha.Such minor details increase up the cost.Also a ready power line runs parallel along the line ready for future electrification!

Jonraid:
The Chinese aren't even our greatest lenders,the Bretton Woods institutions are.

Jonraid:
We can talk about money ritual practices in Nigeria.Let me tell you,the pictures of your folks holding other people's freshly cut off heads are so so out of this world!

kikuyu1:

I just tried to answer this but the chart isn't showing:our hilly topography and land acquisition costs are higher since land owners must be compensated at market rates. Unlike Tz and Ethiopia we're not communist. This chart shows railway construction breakdown-hopefully it'll show.

kikuyu1:


That's because our topography is very different-we're a mountainous country which means grading and will tell in our civil works costs and also our land is expensive due to intensive farming you sneer at. Fyi,unlike communist nations like Tz or Ethio we don't compulsorily acquire private property and must pay market rates for private land.Only literate,moderately intelligent people will understand this chart-I know at least the Kenyans here will see the truth.

[img]http://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-eeb530247231cae386d429b4f0f7481f[/img]

Between,Tz,Ethiopia and Kenya who will spend more on bridges,viaducts and embankments?

kikuyu1:

I just tried to answer this but the chart isn't showing:our hilly topography and land acquisition costs are higher since land owners must be compensated at market rates. Unlike Tz and Ethiopia we're not communist. This chart shows railway construction breakdown-hopefully it'll show.

samorobo:



Omg .you stumbled upon these same disgrace sgr pictures that I got from the internet

They have no future, kenyatta made sure he jeopardised it.all thank to their idiot thuggish looking economic gangstar of a president

theenchanter:
acquisition of lands is only 4% from ur chart.

Bridges, roads and construction is d highest at 60%, the rest is miniscule.

68816419:

keep quite u fool, and you think Nigeria and Ethiopia's SGR ain't fenced and never had same issues as yours (compensation, labour wages...) how much does fencing a 470km of "single line" rail costs, what types of Sgr classification is yours and was the first phase rail construction costs parts of Naivasha lines, if yes, what's the distance from Nairobi terminal to Naivasha .?

tylann:


You are confused
Kenya has never negotiated any debt repayment with china
The disagreement is arising about the extension of the sgr to uganda

Jonraid:
Costs will never be the same! That's the point!

obaaderemi:
You are the confused one here. Point out where I said Kenya renegotiated debt repayment with China. I said they refused you loan extension on your sgr.