HAKI,WOIYEE! Where do I begin? I wish I could reply with sources but that's not always possible.

Vax when he started was pro Yoruba Nigeria and we got into fights but I later realize he was smart dude.Kikuyu has issues with women, Jews and Tutsi but beyond that he is very brillant.

My dude,I've no issues with any of those-I've seen and fu-(cough!/cough!)compared Tz,Ug,Rw women with our women:its like Bandari utd vs Bayern Munich-no contest! IME and those of observers I trust Tutsis and Jews have very similar traits:
-truly believe their self serving fairy tales (imagine,a Tutsi told me Hutus followed them all the way from Ethiopia cause they needed their cowdung to farm!)
-truly despise their respective enemies;fyi,I've heard both slagging off Hutus and Palestinians and the vocabulary of the 'otherisation' is very similar:dehumanisation,contempt and outright hate.
-total inversion of the truth is the biggest parallel of the 2;if the Tutsi RPF didn't invade from Ug in 1990 there'd have been no war and similarly if the 'Impostors' hadn't invented theIr Chosenite delusion,Palestine,the entire ME and the world at large would be at peace-IMAGINE THAT!!

Brilliant,me? No;I know what I know,as I always say.

.He remind me a crazy financial genius in old Kenya forum called oldunn in 90s.So I give Kikuyu a free pass because I know he is a genius.I remember this fake stock exchange forum where you trade shares with virtual money ..oldunn just quickly made tonnes of money..but boy he hated Jews and women..he reminds me of Kikuyu[b].I can hazard a guess that Kikuyu is a financial wizard who cuts his teeth at wall Street.Try him.He hides under journalistic cover like he hid under turkana boy then...[/b]but Kikuyu obviously has very high IQ.What Kikuyu or oldunn or younggun know about global finance you'll need another lifetime to understand

Yes,I do trade shares,commodities,currencies and other derivatives but am also planning to enter our dairy biz. Earlier I posted the value chain has room for ' new energetic entrants'-I'm targeting the feed side. I'm not that clever,tbh I wish I was but from my observation clever people can't learn cause they think they know and more often than not come to grief! I know a brilliant trader 2010 in Karen who lost 10 mn$ of other peoples money. Let me just say I'm also trying to leverage an off shore mineral deal. I swear I've seen a moniker 'oldun,' but can't rmbr if it was on mashada or rcbowen.

He knows how the Jew has rigged the system and games it..[/b]and left the rest of humanity fighting the crumbs.If Kikuyu say he can short bets..he can.I saw do shorting of shares...the man is a genius. definitely went Alliance high one of most premier school in kenya to US college and to wall Street... understudied the Jew and knows the Jew from Australia to Alaska...has rigged every critical resource including Nigeria oil..

I don't want to lay out anecdotal info but trust me,the game is rigged! [b]My betting,strictly Euro football has better returns than anything! Was in UK's alma mater,St Mary's Westlands,Nairobi.

Kenya Agriculture - GDP - I think we are now around 13B dollars - in just 3 sectors.

4th sub-sector - Livestock - Value-add alone is about 1.5B dollars of marketed livestock beef. Industry has fallen from it's glorious days when it use to export beef to Europe like Botswana and largely export only to Middle East - and most of it domestically consumed.

Kenya is knowns for it's Nyama Choma (barbecue beef - goat meat preferred) - and I think in SSA - only Ghana consume more meat than Kenyans.



Kenya meet commission - yeas of mismanagement and lack of disease free zones - has seen lose the lucrative European beef market.

Kenya Livestock sector - Kenya has one Africa largest herds of cattle, sheeps and goats. I think it about equal what Tanzania and Nigeria have - despite them having DOUBLE KENYA land mass and far MORE ARABLE land.

According to Knoema.com - Nigeria has 20M cattle - and Kenya has 18M. Tanzania has 26M. Ethiopia have 54 m cattle (largest herd in the Africa). South Africa 13m.

Of course kenya has way more exotic breeds than either of the laggards

When it come to sheep & goats...I bet kenya leads in Africa in goats (ethiopia 25.5 million sheep and 24.06 million goats)...goats fuels the Nyama Choma industry.

Kenya animal census -
Exotic Cattle - 3,355,407

Indigenous Cattle -14,112,367

Sheep- 17,129,606

Goats - 27,740,153

Camels -2,971,111

Most of Kenya semi-arid is use to keep cattle, sheeps and goats. The arid areas teem with Camels.

Among'st notable cattle farmers are maasais.Somalis also keep a lot of camels and cows and so are many kenyan tribes that are nomadic and pastoral.

Kenya beef industry - boost of modern ranches and breeds like Kenyan Borana - one most sought after beef cow


Modern ranches

Kenya Agricluture - Cereal sectors.

Let start with Maize. Despite Tanzanian make a lot of maize noises - Kenya produced 44M bags of maize last year. Tanzania that has twice Kenya land mass. Tanzania that is mostly arable..compared to 11% of Kenya - managed to produce - only 55M bags.

Kenya also produces lots of wheat, rices and other cereals.

Kenya maize - is mostly produced in the counties in rift valley - Tranzoia, Uasin Gishu, Elgeyo Markwet and Nakuru are amongst the leaders.

Maize farm in Tranzoia.




Wheat farm in Timau


Rice irrigation scheme Mwea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a6KHE2ICqg


Do you remember this Awilo guy from your childhood? tylann

Kenya Agricluture - I think we are approaching 20B dollars - before we get to Sugar Industry.

Despite it's problem - Kenya sugar industry is bigger than Nigeria and the usual laggards. In a good year kenya produces about 650,000 metric tonnes of sugar against consumption of 900,000 tonnes.

Kenya has many sugar factories - with many brands

He hasn't recently read the report done by Ugandans. The Kenyan route is there top preferred route. Their Arema railway is of inferior quality compared to Chinese class 1 SGR. We are nearer to Suez Canal than Tanzania,we have a much bigger port than Tanzania. Our route is shorter going to Uganda compared to the Tanzanian one. It would be mad for the Ugandans to want to link their railway with Tz.

kikuyu1:


Once and for all,we're not and have never been jealous of Tz! You can build your SGR to Uranus if you want-in the 254 we honestly don't give an eff and worry about our own ishyt. You're convinced a railway to Rwanda,Ug and Burundi can make money-carrying who/what cargo?
Anyway,carry on!

Kenya tuber production. Kenya is amongst Africa biggest Irish potatos(2.1M ) - and not doing badly in Sweat Potato production (1.5M) metric tonnes. Nigeria does about nothing in Irish potato and twice kenya in sweat potato. Nigerians concentrate however in useless yams that have very low calories and causes their malnutrition.

Irish potato is kenya second most important food after Maize. Irish potato are sold literally everywhere. Irish potatos are eaten as stewed with kales or mashed into lumb or fried as chips.

Irish mashed with green kales with chicken

Acadavah:


This dude doesn't remember what he said previously. He keep said he was in Ukurewe there is no ukurewe but Ukerewe in Tanzania, he said there is no electricity which isn't true and he said, he is currently in america.

You've done a good job exposing the sick lizard. He's one of the Kenyans. I guess they got destroyed by facts so much they tried to hide and masquerade as Tanzanians.

Mkenya2019:
The Tanzania laggards like their Nigeria siblings - keep a lot of useless cows -anyway it not just zero-grazing - it's Artificial Insemination service to avoid getting those Zebus and Fulani breeds - it's extension services - it's the feeds. It's the training institutions like your university Egerton. It's the cooperatives - and it the entire value chain.

And that is how kenya with 11% arable land excels in Agriculture.

Historically this sector thrives because of one visionary Mureithi or something like that who did the bulk of work in 70s who set kenya on this path.

Artificial Insemination of a farmers cow.
Animal feeds factories
Hay farming in kenya

Your starving nation has no right to speak about agricultural stuff. Instead of helping ur starving populace,you come here bragging? Very foolish.

Next time before u post your few farms owned by politicians and foreigners, remember these fellows in Turkana, Kenya.....

Mkenya2019:
Kenya tuber production. Kenya is amongst Africa biggest Irish potatos(2.1M ) - and not doing badly in Sweat Potato production (1.5M) metric tonnes. Nigeria does about nothing in Irish potato and twice kenya in sweat potato. Nigerians concentrate however in useless yams that have very low calories and causes their malnutrition.

Irish potato is kenya second most important food after Maize. Irish potato are sold literally everywhere. Irish potatos are eaten as stewed with kales or mashed into lumb or fried as chips.

Irish mashed with green kales with chicken

And yet you are buying potatoes from the Tanzanians. I think you should give up this your monkey business. You know will only get into trouble by mentioning other people's countries in your desperation to compare.

cossano:
i have never really understood the hatred between Kenyans and Tanzanians, this thing f.vcks with me! as a luo man my community straddles both countries and whenever am in Tanzania i get nothing but love, i can't tell you how many times i have toyed with the idea of taking up a Tanzanian citizenship, people who don't understand our shared heritage are the ones always yapping Kenya this Tanzania that, guys stop planting seeds of discord amongst us communities with presence in both of these countries such as maasai and luos. where do you expect us to stand and that guy who is claiming to be Tanzanian, i mean come on, even I who ain't Tanzanian can see that you are not Tanzanian, i have always meant to ask you guys this, what do you get out of this useless arguments? if its a debate about devt indices however you like but do it with civility and humility, its not a must you defend your country even though its flaws are everywhere to be seen, as for me, i will always consider myself a citizen of the greater east Africa, my people are DRC,S SUDAN ETHIOPIA,UGANDA,KENYA and TANZANIA. So any development in any of these countries excites me, let promote integration and not disintegration. and please stop sharing photos of those starving turkanas, you are not helping matters, its not their fault that they are hungry and suffering but a dysfunctional system which the Kenyans do not want to accept.

You are mostly correct.No need to have enmnity btn ourselves.But have u tried to think where does it originate from? Have u asked yourself why are Tanzanians arguing with Kenyans and not Ugandan or rwandese or Congolese or Nigerians? Why only Kenya?

Dude,Kenyans have started this no sense. They have spoken a lot of rubbish about Tz on all international medias. Go at quota.You will see Kenyans talking stupid about Tz! Some they disguised as american or any nationality just to demonize there. Go to their newspapers, you will see how they report us! Go to you tube,any thing stupid said about Tz,its in most cases spoken by a kenyan!

Even in this forum.The argument was btn Kenya vs Nigeria.But in order to score points,Kenyans spoke rubbish about Tz.They even use our pics like serengeti,Kilimanjaro and Zanzibar just to get popularity.

Again, you need to check at Kenyan attitude.These are people who had online wars with south Africans,Zambians,Nigerians,Tanzanians etc. The question is why are they into arguments with so many nationalities? And why are Tanzanians not arguing with Nigerians, or Zambians, or south Africans or Ugandans or Ghanaians?


Then again,have u tried to think in deep why are Kenyan newspapers speaks negatively about Tz but don't do the same to Somalia or Uganda or Burundi? Have u noticed how they claim that our president is a dictotor but they don't speak or write much about Burundian or Rwandan presidents who are really dictotors? I can explain that if u ask me.

We as Tanzanians have no choice but to defend ourselves against these lies.we have no other choice.We don't like doing online wars,but at some point we have to do it anyway.We have been forced.And am sure we won't do this online arguments with no other nation than Kenya who demonizes us.We don't like posting starving pics either,but we are forced to it since most Kenyans just attack us and call us lazy while they lack food! I don't rejoice at the suffering of anybody even Kenyans.When I post those pics,I just do it cause am forced

We import very little food here and there - when we aren't sufficient - but obviously Tanzanian are too poor to consume what we do per capita. They have the same serious mental and physical stunting Nigerian has.

obaaderemi:
And yet you are buying potatoes from the Tanzanians. I think you should give up this your monkey business. You know will only get into trouble by mentioning other people's countries in your desperation to compare.

Kenya Sisal farming - Kenya is 2nd to Tanzania and as Plastic are banned worldwide - this one sector that could thrive.

We are now onto sectors that contribute btw 0-1% of our GDP.

This is Teita Sisal Estate in Taita-Taveta County, Kenya. It is the largest sisal estate in the world

Mkenya2019:
We import very little food here and there - when we aren't sufficient - but obviously Tanzanian are too poor to consume what we do per capita. They have the same serious mental and physical stunting Nigerian has.

Yet you are the ones starving.Even with your small population.

Long diatribe. Your envy and jealousy about Kenya's pre-eminence in the region is well known. You feel because you're larger and more populated - you should be the big brother. But you're nothing but a wimpy sissy to us.

Kazikazi:
You are mostly correct.No need to have enmnity btn ourselves.But have u tried to think where does it originate from? Have u asked yourself why are Tanzanians arguing with Kenyans and not Ugandan or rwandese or Congolese or Nigerians? Why only Kenya?

Dude,Kenyans have started this no sense. They have spoken a lot of rubbish about Tz on all international medias. Go at quota.You will see Kenyans talking stupid about Tz! Some they disguised as american or any nationality just to demonize there. Go to their newspapers, you will see how they report us! Go to you tube,any thing stupid said about Tz,its in most cases spoken by a kenyan!

Even in this forum.The argument was btn Kenya vs Nigeria.But in order to score points,Kenyans spoke rubbish about Tz.They even use our pics like serengeti,Kilimanjaro and Zanzibar just to get popularity.

Again, you need to check at Kenyan attitude.These are people who had online wars with south Africans,Zambians,Nigerians,Tanzanians etc. The question is why are they into arguments with so many nationalities? And why are Tanzanians not arguing with Nigerians, or Zambians, or south Africans or Ugandans or Ghanaians?


Then again,have u tried to think in deep why are Kenyan newspapers speaks negatively about Tz but don't do the same to Somalia or Uganda or Burundi? Have u noticed how they claim that our president is a dictotor but they don't speak or write much about Burundian or Rwandan presidents who are really dictotors? I can explain that if u ask me.

We as Tanzanians have no choice but to defend ourselves against these lies.we have no other choice.We don't like doing online wars,but at some point we have to do it anyway.We have been forced.And am sure we won't do this online arguments with no other nation than Kenya who demonizes us.We don't like posting starving pics either,but we are forced to it since most Kenyans just attack us and call us lazy while they lack food! I don't rejoice at the suffering of anybody even Kenyans.When I post those pics,I just do it cause am forced

Mkenya2019:
Kenya Agricluture - Cereal sectors.

Let start with Maize. Despite Tanzanian make a lot of maize noises - Kenya produced 44M bags of maize last year. Tanzania that has twice Kenya land mass. Tanzania that is mostly arable..compared to 11% of Kenya - managed to produce - only 55M bags.

Kenya also produces lots of wheat, rices and other cereals.

Kenya maize - is mostly produced in the counties in rift valley - Tranzoia, Uasin Gishu, Elgeyo Markwet and Nakuru are amongst the leaders.

Maize farm in Tranzoia.




Wheat farm in Timau


Rice irrigation scheme Mwea.

So what will u gain by lying? Do u know we are exporting 700,000 tonnes of maize to Zimbabwe? And we are doing to Kenya too?

Do u know we produced 16 million tonnes which makes 160 millions bags? Where did u got that 55 million bags?

Kazikazi:
You are mostly correct.No need to have enmnity btn ourselves.But have u tried to think where does it originate from? Have u asked yourself why are Tanzanians arguing with Kenyans and not Ugandan or rwandese or Congolese or Nigerians? Why only Kenya?

Dude,Kenyans have started this no sense. They have spoken a lot of rubbish about Tz on all international medias. Go at quota.You will see Kenyans talking stupid about Tz! Some they disguised as american or any nationality just to demonize there. Go to their newspapers, you will see how they report us! Go to you tube,any thing stupid said about Tz,its in most cases spoken by a kenyan!

Even in this forum.The argument was btn Kenya vs Nigeria.But in order to score points,Kenyans spoke rubbish about Tz.They even use our pics like serengeti,Kilimanjaro and Zanzibar just to get popularity.

Again, you need to check at Kenyan attitude.These are people who had online wars with south Africans,Zambians,Nigerians,Tanzanians etc. The question is why are they into arguments with so many nationalities? And why are Tanzanians not arguing with Nigerians, or Zambians, or south Africans or Ugandans or Ghanaians?


Then again,have u tried to think in deep why are Kenyan newspapers speaks negatively about Tz but don't do the same to Somalia or Uganda or Burundi? Have u noticed how they claim that our president is a dictotor but they don't speak or write much about Burundian or Rwandan presidents who are really dictotors? I can explain that if u ask me.

We as Tanzanians have no choice but to defend ourselves against these lies.we have no other choice.We don't like doing online wars,but at some point we have to do it anyway.We have been forced.And am sure we won't do this online arguments with no other nation than Kenya who demonizes us.We don't like posting starving pics either,but we are forced to it since most Kenyans just attack us and call us lazy while they lack food! I don't rejoice at the suffering of anybody even Kenyans.When I post those pics,I just do it cause am forced

i know Tanzanians have many reasons to be mad at us,some of the mistrust of Kenyans by Tanzanians emanated from the failed EAC, when Kenya illegally retained most of the defunct commission assets, it proved to Tanzanians that Kenyans greed was out of this world, Kenyans tbh looks down upon Tanzanians, this is partly due to ignorance and arrogance, many of these Kenyans have never stepped a foot in Tanzania and therefore only talk about things they read on social media or watch on local media, like i said Tanzania is coming up really good. arguably the most harmonious society in Africa, Mwalimu taught you guys really well, Kenya and Nigeria have a lot to learn from Tanzania on how to build a nation, Tanzania is truly a complete nation, others are just states.

If a few Turkana Kenyans herdmen living in a desert starve - that doesn't Kenyans are starving in entirety. The whole of your North East are now probably lining up to pick their food rations from the UN. Does that mean Nigeria is starving.

Obviously what matters is data - that tell us what % of Nigerian or Kenyans or Americans are starving. And the overwhelming evidence is Nigerians and Tanzanians are starving more than kenyans.

obaaderemi:
Yet you are the ones starving.Even with your small population.

Poor Tanzania - now you're poor because Kenya retained assets of EAC. How is that even possible when you had EAC HQ and therefore kept most assets.

You're poor, ignorant, envious and lazy because of your failed communist legacy.

And kenya is miles ahead because we choose a different path - a path of excellence, hardwork, co-operation and progress.

cossano:
i know Tanzanians have many reasons to be mad at us,some of the mistrust of Kenyans by Tanzanians emanated from the failed EAC, when Kenya illegally retained most of the defunct commission assets, it proved to Tanzanians that Kenyans greed was out of this world, Kenyans tbh looks down upon Tanzanians, this is partly due to ignorance and arrogance, many of these Kenyans have never stepped a foot in Tanzania and therefore only talk about things they read on social media or watch on local media, like i said Tanzania is coming up really good. arguably the most harmonious society in Africa, Mwalimu taught you guys really well, Kenya and Nigeria have a lot to learn from Tanzania on how to build a nation, Tanzania is truly a complete nation, others are just states.

Mkenya2019:
We import very little food here and there - when we aren't sufficient - but obviously Tanzanian are too poor to consume what we do per capita. They have the same serious mental and physical stunting Nigerian has.

sweet potatoes yes, and Tanzanians import a lot of Irish potatoes from Kenya, its a symbiotic relationship.

Picture break - Random Kenya.

Mkenya2019:
If a few Turkana Kenyans herdmen living in a desert stuff - that doesn't Kenyans are starving. The whole of your North East are now probably lining up to pick their food rations from the UN. Does that mean Nigeria is starving.

Obviously what matters is data - that tell us what % of Nigerian or Kenyans or Americans are starving. And the overwhelming evidence is Nigerians and Tanzanians are starving more than kenyans.

Which data and indexes are u talking about? You have buried people due to hunger recently in Turkana and baringo counties,but out of your ignorance,you claim to be better than Tz in food security? Have any Tanzanian died in 2019 due to hunger? Or have we gotten food aid from China in 2019?

Your ignorance is abnormal. Its heartening to see u believing in fake datas while ignoring the masses who are whallopping in abject poverty and starvation.Can an index gives us a clear picture than a real people who are buried due to lack of a meal in Turkana?

Mkenya2019:
Poor Tanzania - now you're poor because Kenya retained assets of EAC. How is that even possible when you had EAC HQ and therefore kept most assets.

You're poor, ignorant, envious and lazy because of your failed communist legacy.

And kenya is miles ahead because we choose a different path - a path of excellence, hardwork, co-operation and progress.

Show me any Tanzanian who is poor as these Kenyans! Show me!!

Credible data by credible organisation that you cannot intimidate like you always do in your little totalitarian regime of Magufuli.

Twaweza went live a few years ago and declared many Tanzanians were going to bed hungry. This they did after conducting a survey.

Twaweza (not Kenya) reported this....

In February 2017, 35% of citizens reported that a household member had gone without eating the whole day due to lack of food in the previous three months, compared to 21% who reported that this had occurred in the six months before September 2016.

A large majority of Sauti za Wananchi respondents (78%) report food shortages where they live. The situation is worse in rural areas where 84% reporting food shortages compared to a still substantial 64% in urban areas.

At least half of Tanzania’s households report that they worried about running out of food (69%); there was not enough food to feed all household members (51%), or a household member skipped a meal because they could not get food (50%).

https://www.twaweza.org/go/sauti-hunger-2017

Kazikazi:
Which data and indexes are u talking about? You have buried people due to hunger recently in Turkana and baringo counties,but out of your ignorance,you claim to be better than Tz in food security? Have any Tanzanian died in 2019 due to hunger? Or have we gotten food aid from China in 2019?

Your ignorance is abnormal. Its heartening to see u believing in fake datas while ignoring the masses who are whallopping in abject poverty and starvation.Can an index gives us a clear picture than a real people who are buried due to lack of a meal in Turkana?

Mkenya2019:
If a few Turkana Kenyans herdmen living in a desert starve - that doesn't Kenyans are starving in entirety. The whole of your North East are now probably lining up to pick their food rations from the UN. Does that mean Nigeria is starving.

Obviously what matters is data - that tell us what % of Nigerian or Kenyans or Americans are starving. And the overwhelming evidence is Nigerians and Tanzanians are starving more than kenyans.

Your data is always overcooked. We've been over this many times. Even the world bank has no faith in your data. Do you want me to post you the chart again before you believe us.

kaziKazi bringing pockets of areas of kenya in remote deserts where people are eking a living doesn't wash away facts like this. 92% of Tanzania Kids are undernourished.

Yes 92% - and that is from your own data - only 9% are well-feed.

Read the grim situations in your country and give the Turkana a break - at least they can justify their situation considering the harsh climate.

https://pesacheck.org/are-nine-out-of-ten-tanzanian-children-undernourished-b558a8380b16

cossano:
i know Tanzanians have many reasons to be mad at us,some of the mistrust of Kenyans by Tanzanians emanated from the failed EAC, when Kenya illegally retained most of the defunct commission assets, it proved to Tanzanians that Kenyans greed was out of this world, Kenyans tbh looks down upon Tanzanians, this is partly due to ignorance and arrogance, many of these Kenyans have never stepped a foot in Tanzania and therefore only talk about things they read on social media or watch on local media, like i said Tanzania is coming up really good. arguably the most harmonious society in Africa, Mwalimu taught you guys really well, Kenya and Nigeria have a lot to learn from Tanzania on how to build a nation, Tanzania is truly a complete nation, others are just states.

You are very right.Tanzania is a nation.We are the only united republic in Africa. Thanks to our former leaders who had that visionary leadership. Through much sacrifices, humbleness and servanthood characters they rebirthed the most unified and non tribalist society in Africa.Truth be told, it wasn't coincidence that we have reached this far.The architects of this non tribalist nation was none other than the first PM and president JK Nyerere

I don't see any huge difference in statistical capacity btw nigeria and kenya. Besides when we are talking about data - we are not talking exclusively about gov data from national statistic bodies - we are talking data from various sources. Nairobi has a sort of organisations collecting
and collating their own data.

Besides assume our data is cooked - does that make your grim situation any better

obaaderemi:
Your data is always overcooked. We've been over this many times. Even the world bank has no faith in your data. Do you want me to post you the chart again before you believe us.

Kazikazi:
Show me any Tanzanian who is poor as these Kenyans! Show me!!

In the coastal parts of Kenya,they are renting out children to white tourists out of hunger and the liar is talking about turkana alone.

When you finally become a true democracy - then you'll see Africa tribalism rears it's ugly head. CCM has been rulling forever and have tight lid on things - once they allow true democracy to thrive - Tanzanian politician will mobilize along ethnic lines.

Just give Magufuli another 10yrs - he'll squeeze the democracy space - enough for the pressure to boil over - and kaboom - CCM will be out.

Kazikazi:
You are very right.Tanzania is a nation.We are the only united republic in Africa. Thanks to our former leaders who had that visionary leadership. Through much sacrifices, humbleness and servanthood characters they rebirthed the most unified and non tribalist society in Africa.Truth be told, it wasn't coincidence that we have reached this far.The architects of this non tribalist nation was none other than the first PM and president JK Nyerere