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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by cossano(m): 12:59pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
read these excerpts from NY Times on some of the reasons the first EAC 1967-77 collapsed. clearly indicating that Kenyattas primitive way of accumulating wealth was a major tumbling block to the infant commission '' Kenya. where an entrenched economic structure on capitalist lines existed at independence, modeled itself on the mixed economies of Western Europe. Tanzania. on the other hand, had received such a meager colonial inheritance that its independent rulers had virtually a clean canvas to work upon. Starting with President Nyerere's Fabian socialism, Tanzania gradually moved to a more thorough communal system, with an overwhelming state sector plus peasant cooperatives. Above all, the ideological differences arose from the accidents of leadership. President Jomo Kenyatta is an earthy man with an acquisitive nature. President Nyerere of Tanzania is an ascetic intellectual. Each imposed his personal philosophy upon his people''. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 12:59pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Show us the data. In nigeria some of you are engaged in child trafficking - but what we need is DATA. You have what 40% malnutrition. obaaderemi: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:01pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
It's back up - why are you digging history - why doesn't Tanzania now support EAC? cossano: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 1:02pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:Dude, Twaweza is an NGO.Its not a gov organ! They can produce any biased survey to please their masters. Now, let me post some few hungry Kenyans,then u will know who is starving btn a Tanzanian and a Kenyan. Faked Indexes vs real photos. Turkana fellows. Loading photos... 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:04pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Picture break - Kenya. one of world leader in clean renewable energy. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:07pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
So what if it's an NGO is it kenyan?. Data is data. They all converge - your country has serious hunger and poverty issues - deal with it. Let try your own gov sources.. Citing the Tanzania Demographic and Health Survey ‘s Key Findings Report for 2015–2016, Le Kirkegaard adds that one in three children under five in Tanzania are stunted due to a chronic lack of essential nutrients such as vitamins and minerals, which are needed for growth and development. In the worst affected areas of the country, this number rises to almost one in two. The resulting phenomenon is known as ‘hidden hunger’, where the quality of food that the children eat does not meet their nutrient requirements, leading to stunted growth and a number of health issues later in life. https://pesacheck.org/are-nine-out-of-ten-tanzanian-children-undernourished-b558a8380b16 Kazikazi: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:08pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019: An animal like that can go for up to 6k$. You'd be shocked how much butchers pay for quality. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 1:12pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:All countries of this world has some industries. You are posting farms? Do u know we have bigger farms in Tanzania than your small white mans farms? These are rice farms in mbeya,Tanzania 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:15pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Of course every country has it. I was analyzing Kenya agriculture. I think you produce more rice than us - but we produce more sugar. Again figures and facts. Kazikazi: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:26pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:The chart shows your data is always overcooked and can't be trusted. It deteriorated over the years.What we need are hard facts.Kenyans are known as more corrupt than nigerians. That's the reason we can't accept your data here. Rub your eyes and look again. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:27pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Lamu pristine beaches - voted #1 last year in Africa ; Diani beach mombasa won this year 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Acadavah: 1:29pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019: That's not random. That is Nairobi CBD and we have seen it here like thousands times in these threads, you can start give us pic of other towns in kenya. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:30pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:Both Tanzania and Nigeria have more cattle than Kenya. Fact. World 1,467,548,724 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 1:30pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:You published stupid indexes showing you are doing better in food security than Nigeria and Tanzania. But suddenly, your people started starving and eventually u buried a lot of souls due to hunger in 2019! Many people decided to help you.China gave u food aid in 2019 to avert that crisis which you hid under your fake hunger index figures. Should we trust Kenyan statistical bureau again? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 1:31pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
obaaderemi:And Kenyan are starving to death.Fact number 2 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:34pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
That rich coming from folks who have held census twice - in 50yrs and couldn't afford it. When did capacity means credibility obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:35pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
You have twice kenya land mass like Tanzania & Ethiopia. You also have way more population. But you only have 2M more cattle - and very few exotic breed. obaaderemi: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:37pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
samorobo:I saw the stupid moniker yesterday but didn't give much thought to it because I didn't know they could be desperate to that extent. So they're now cloning our monikers. It means we are in their heads. You need to see grown Kenyan men crying here yesterday about getting banned,using that as an excuse when they had nothing further to prove after the exposure we did on their Chinese debts and useless SGR yesterday. But I honestly thought one of them would copy the cossano moniker. The guy is always forthright. Kenya needs more people like that. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:38pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Data, Indices and indicators are not generated by KNBS or TZ gov exclusively . Like you saw with Twaweza - they are generated by all sort of organisations. And they all should generally come to consensus. This is SOCIAL SCIENCE. It's scientific process. It easy - pick a piece of paper - randomly sample about 2,000 Tanzanians - and ask them if they had any or enough food - and like Twaweza did - you should come to around 78% For instance this https://www.globalhungerindex.org/results/ is not done by Kenya. Kenya is ranked 77 - and Tanzania 95 - and Nigeria as always last 103. If you cook data like Nigeria GDP - you can easily out that through verification from other sources. Kazikazi: 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 1:43pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:So u came up with faked hunger index figures in 2019 in order to feel great? But what followed? People died from starvation in Kenya while your hunger indexes were so better! Should we keep on trusting statistics from Kenya? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:46pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:You see why I said you should refrain from discussing economics and finance here. Russia is 8 times bigger than Argentina but Argentina has far more cattle. Cattle production doesn't depend on land size only. Ethiopia also has more cattle than Argentina while Argentina is far larger than Ethiopia. Bottom line: Nigeria has more cattle than Kenya. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:46pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
If we had said Kenya has zero hunger issues. You'd say we cooked. Kenya has hunger problem too. They are pockets of the country esp in the marginalized Arid North (from Turkana to Somali border) where people are struggling. We know it. That is why we have about 1.2M people receiving monthly stipend to just buy food. We also know we have many disabled people - we send them money monthly - we don't export them to Tanzania towns to beg like you do. As you speak we have about 5M kenyans (about 1.2M household) under some welfare systems where they get money monthly to meet their needs....we are annually ramping the figures. Worse we don't ban research institutions like Twaweza or the media (like Tanzania) from highlighting hunger problem. Kazikazi: 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:47pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Kazikazi:He's desperate like yesterday. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:49pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Lets ignore the landmass. You're just looking for any win .Nigeria has less 2m more cows than Kenya. Ethiopia has more than double the cows. We have more sheep and goats than you do. Happy now. Maybe you have more pigs and chicken - but it appears we have more livestock production than you do. But wait until you hear Yemi Kale - he probably claim you livestock production is worth 30B dollars. obaaderemi: 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Acadavah: 1:53pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019: Twaweza is one of those NGOs which create data to fool Europeans so they can get money from them. Why didn't they mention region or districts in which kids face malnutrition. Those money which they are given by whites they should reinvest in those claimed issue rather put them in their pocket. We need data from FAO or other reputable source and not kenyan NGOs. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:54pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Maasai mara - count the hot air balloons - tourist watching TZ passport carrying zebras and wilderbest cross over to Kenya. This happens around July. 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:56pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Lame. Now everyone conspiring against the mighty United Republic. Such arguments you here your siblings the Nigerians make. Acadavah: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:58pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:Stop lying, Oga while I am still around. Kenya produces about 4bn litres of milk. A litre of raw milk in Kenya is ksh36. In fact, that ksh36 is the highest in the market, it is paid by Brookside. If you multiplied 4bn litres by ksh36, you get about $1.5bn. Remember, your milk industry is only 20% formal. And please please please, stop lying once again! Brookside was never valued by Danone at $400million in 2014.The last time Brookside was publicly valued was in 2009.It was a paltry $170mn. So,milk $1.5bn max.Let me go to tea. Today,we will get the true idea of how small your GDP is actually. Trust me. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 2:01pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
obaaderemi:He fumbled big time yesterday. A dude claimed to be a Tanzanian but he failed to even understand a Tz Swahili! I think he didn't expect I would take him that route. A very low IQ dude |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 2:07pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
obaaderemi:Yah take him that route! These lies must stop.Even these pics of that brookside shows the factory isn't big. The milk tankers are too small.I wish they could show me their production lines I could tell how much they can produce 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by cossano(m): 2:08pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
in the spirit of enlightening one another, because i see some common misconception about Nairobi here a lot. 1.Nairobi has about 4 business districts, they include the following a) The old CBD (this the one that is easily recognizable on photos) b) Upper Hill the fastest growing business district in Africa c) Westlands d) Mombasa road kenya's commercial and high end property segments is doing pretty good, you can give us that however, we are doing poorly in lower end properties, mass transport and gabbage collection. one of the major reasons why westerners prefer Nairobi over Dar is because of its good climate, Nairobi climate is cool all year, infact there is very little need for air conditioning in Nairobi, this is what i love about Nairobi the most. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 2:13pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
obaaderemi:I am glad you stopped heckling...go ahead and I will respond to you tomorrow with facts and figures. |
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