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The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:07pm On Jul 03, 2019 |
The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses "The Jehovah's Witness organization teaches that not all members of their group can take communion. Only the 144,000 members called the "anointed class" have the right to take Communion, and they are the only ones who go to heaven.1 In fact, the 144,000 "anointed class" within the Jehovah's Witnesses are the only ones who are "born again." https://carm.org/lords-supper-and-144000-anointed-jehovahs-witnesses |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:11pm On Jul 04, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: "This 'little flock' of 144,000 Kingdom heirs, then, are those ones from among mankind who are 'born again.'"2 The Jehovah's Witnesses celebrate the communion supper only once a year.3 In their annual communion service, the congregations gather in their various kingdom halls. This is done on the 14th of Nissan, the Passover date on the Jewish calendar, which usually falls in March or April of each year in the Gregorian calendar. During the service, the cup is passed from Jehovah's Witness to Jehovah's Witness. None of them partake-- except the very few who are of the 144,000. In John 6:53-54, Jesus said, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves. 54 'He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day." (NASB). I am not here going to discuss the nature of the communion and compare Catholic and Protestant views of the elements; rather, the issue is that Jesus said to the Jews that they must take of the communion, which He later instituted in Matt. 26:26-28; and that if they did not partake, then they had no life in them, 6:53. According to the Watchtower, the "life" spoken of in 6:53 is everlasting life. "On that occasion Jesus was not speaking to those circumcised Israelites about "everlasting life" as human creatures on a Paradise earth under his millennial kingdom. Rather, he was speaking about the very same opportunity that he was setting before the apostle Peter and his fellow apostles by means of the "sayings of everlasting life." It was the opportunity to gain inherent life with the Christ in the heavens, "life in yourselves." (John 6:53) By reigning with him in heaven they could pass on to mankind the life-giving benefits of his sacrifice. 4 According to Jehovah's Witness theology, some Witnesses will be raised to "immortal life" and others to "everlasting life." Immortal life is only for the 144,000 that go to be with the Lord in heaven. They do not have resurrected bodies but have "spirit bodies." Everlasting life is for those on Paradise earth and consists of a resurrected body that must be maintained through eating, sleeping, etc. As we see in the quote above, according to the Watchtower, the life that Jesus was speaking of was "everlasting life"; that is, life in heaven for the 144,000. Therefore, the Witnesses teach that the communion supper is instituted only for the 144,000 Jews and not for all Witnesses. Since Jesus bought the church with His blood (Acts 20:28) and His blood is the blood of the covenant for the church (1 Cor. 11:25), then communion is supposed to be for all Christians and not just 144,000 elite Jehovah's Witnesses. To be continued... 11 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by MightySparrow: 10:09pm On Jul 04, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:Only 144,000 jw! Where will be Paul, Peter, John ,.... not to talk of early church fathers many were fed to hungry lions defending the faith. Not to talk of the obvious conditionality (jews). Oh those ones are not worthy? JW's toy 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Nobody: 10:39pm On Jul 04, 2019 |
MightySparrow:Do you now see what i mean? He can never feel comfortable and relaxed without having to do with Jehovah's Witnesses! Our righteousness is from JEHOVAH! Isaiah 54:17 7 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:47pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: What does the Bible say? The Communion supper is for the body of Christ--for the believers. The bread and the wine represent the body and the blood of Christ that was sacrificed for the believer so the believer could have redemption of his sins. Therefore, Communion is only for those people who have trusted in Christ's sacrifice. Communion is not for those who are not covered by Christ's sacrifice. This is significant since the great majority of the Witnesses do not take communion. Paul the apostle said that the bread is a sharing in the body of Christ--that there is only one body of Christ (the church) of which we all partake. Within the Christian Church, there is no limitation on the who takes the Lord's supper. • "Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ? 17Since there is one bread, we who are many are one body; for we all partake of the one bread. 18Look at the nation Israel; are not those who eat the sacrifices sharers in the altar?" (1 Cor. 10:16-18, NASB). • And on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to depart the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight." (Acts 20:7, NASB). There is no mention of limiting communion to anyone except that they examine themselves and rightly discern that the elements represent Christ's sacrifice and not a mere meal to satisfy hunger. • "But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself, if he does not judge the body rightly." (1 Cor. 11:28-29, NASB). No place in the Bible is communion restricted to only the 144,000--as the Witnesses teach. This is a fabrication of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. The fact that the Jehovah's Witnesses do not take communion is a demonstration that they are not in the body of Christ and do not have a covenant relationship with Christ. The Lord's Supper is meant for the body of believers in the true and living God who have been redeemed by the Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord's Supper is not for those who are outside the camp of Christ. Since the great majority of the Jehovah's Witnesses do not take communion, this is a testimony against them. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Nobody: 9:31pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:Thanks for the lengthy epistle Sir. So now can you now tell everyone the significance of the figure mentioned in connection with the lamb{Jesus}? Revelation 7:4, 14:1 Jehovah's Witnesses have explained that they're the only ones chosen to take the holy communion, but that the names mentioned at Revelations 7:5-8 is NOT the original names of all the twelve tribes of Israel, so they concluded that they must be the spiritual Israel {Individuals chosen from all nations to rule as spiritual Jews with Jesus in heaven} So let's assume the JWs are wrong, please enlighten everyone on this thread, why the figure was mentioned! 7 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by alBHAGDADI: 7:55am On Jul 07, 2019 |
Maximus69: The 144,000 are people who did not defile themselves with women. But those fakers in your JW organization all have wives and children. Even your GB have defiled themselves with women. So your talk of the 144,000 being JW is a lie. Revelation 14 (KJV) 14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 6 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Nobody: 8:04am On Jul 07, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:So the defiling is all about SEX shey? My friend come and let's teach you what our BOOK is saying, otherwise you'll continue to read and you'll never grasp anything after reading the Bible from page 1 to the end! 10 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by alBHAGDADI: 8:24am On Jul 07, 2019 |
Maximus69: Yes, it's all about sex, that's why the Bible clarified that they are virgins. But you decided to turn a blind eye to that simply because your false book says otherwise Revelations 14:4 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 9 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by mayklef(m): 8:32am On Jul 07, 2019 |
na dem sin paz oo.....jw# |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Hotzone(m): 8:34am On Jul 07, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:OP, u lied. They preach that that's the number who shall inherit heaven but if u find yourself worthy, then u can pertake 4 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Offpoint: 8:34am On Jul 07, 2019 |
The book of revelation is one of the book 99% of Christians both from past and present don't understand. #Fact 2 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by enitey(f): 8:34am On Jul 07, 2019 |
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Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Nobody: 8:35am On Jul 07, 2019 |
JW has been wrong before, infact they have always been wrong ( go read their predictions of Jesus coming, laughable ) so this is just another wrong prediction. 3 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Immorttal: 8:36am On Jul 07, 2019 |
Nonsense and 39 seconds |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Uchenaija: 8:37am On Jul 07, 2019 |
Op, do you have a problem with that? Heaven is your home, you come dey here. If una spoil this earth they'll carry una go heaven for what? To spoil that place too abi? Are you aware the heavenly creatures don't drink, eat, or enjoy all the worldly things you enjoy? Na cry you go use run away from that heaven sef.. You want to see your father...near sun first so you'd know the energy that emanates from God. Ordinary 5mins daily prayer dey tire you, you wan go do 24hrs worship and praise for heaven 17 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by AngelicBeing: 8:37am On Jul 07, 2019 |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Nobody: 8:37am On Jul 07, 2019 |
which came first.. the Holy Bible or a group of confusionists?.. isn't it then very easy to name a group after the select view 144,000 witnesses to the Word Of God and falsely believe they are heaven's only candidates...? |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by HumanHairLovers(f): 8:38am On Jul 07, 2019 |
Amakavula: Jesus apostles were wrong many times What matters is that they admit they were wrong. The prediction you're talking about was not wrong anyway. Go make your findings. Does your church ever admit they're wrong? The light of the righteous keeps getting brighter and brighter, says the Holy Book The righteous would stumble even 7 times and still stand up, says the word of God 18 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by mrvitalis(m): 8:39am On Jul 07, 2019 |
The problem with christains is they dont read 144,000 are from iseral the next verse it said he saw uncountable people from all the tribe of the earth Why cant we just read 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by feldido(m): 8:41am On Jul 07, 2019 |
Op is a pained Apostate who does everything to malign the Witnesses by interpreting whatever he read in a wrong way. Pay no heed to him. If you need answers you can easily get it from https://jw.org 31 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by iyken(m): 8:42am On Jul 07, 2019 |
@ OP ......[b][/b]Fake News. 2 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Offpoint: 8:43am On Jul 07, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Meaning all the 144,000 will be men right? 5 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Qaisar1: 8:43am On Jul 07, 2019 |
John 3:16 is clear enough! Believing in the God’s son Jesus is the ultimate key to eternal life after death. He paid fully for our sins; past present and Future. Yes, future. So should we continue in sin that grace will increase? No! Being a Christian is more than making heaven. God hates sin. Sin caused the separation at first. So when we continue to sin ‘intentionally’ we distance ourselves from Him. Imagine being cut off from your source of strength, protection and glory. Sinning also makes fun of the finish work of Christ Jesus on the cross. Believe the death of Jesus as payment for sin. Be more than just a candidate of heaven, be a disciple. 3 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by ifyblinksss(m): 8:47am On Jul 07, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: U talk like a spiritual child Now reason... Wen Revelation talked about d bride of d Lamb was it referring to a literal woman? When it mentioned a harlot was it referring to a literal woman Now it's mentioning a woman... Is it referring to literal women Mk research before u mislead yourself 14 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by properties4sale: 8:48am On Jul 07, 2019 |
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Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by BleedTears: 8:49am On Jul 07, 2019 |
Op get your facts correctly.. They never said 144 men are members of Jehovah's witnesses 4 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Dohwho: 8:49am On Jul 07, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Please confirm the number of persons present in this event and compare it to the total number of disciple Jesus had as at the time except u want us to believe that other disciples didn't really believe in Jesus 1 Like |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Realcash224(m): 8:52am On Jul 07, 2019 |
Holy Communion is not meant for all Christian. If you are not holy don't partake in it. Psalms 24:3-4 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. 1 Like |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Nobody: 8:53am On Jul 07, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Piece of thrash! Better face forward in your church and leave JW alone. At the end, una eye go clear 7 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by alBHAGDADI: 8:54am On Jul 07, 2019 |
ifyblinksss: What does "for they are virgins" mean to you? Besides, you failed to mentioned the woman they didn't defile themselves with. 1 Like |
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