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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 3:30am On Aug 28, 2019 |
A40: Did you say 1 La Liga? Wrong! Ronald won 2 La Liga titles 02/03, 06/07. I expect you belittle that among the others I mentioned before this post. 05/06, he finished as the highest goal scorer in the South American qualification table and we all know how tough that zone is. I listed more at least 6 individual records/ titles Ronaldo won post-injury. I can imagine a world where every player made excuses for their injury. I have debunked all your questions but you keep shifting the goal post. I am waiting for a response to these questions. Roland17: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:33am On Aug 28, 2019 |
chic2pimp: If Ronaldo career had finished in 1998, the level he reached from 1995-1998 would be enough to place him above Totti. Same goes for DelPiero. Zidane in a way came from nowhere to win WPOTY thanks to World Cup because based on club season, it was a 2 horse race between DelPiero and Ronaldo. Totti has never reached that level. . . as below: A40: 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:40am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Roland17:Well since Del Piero is ahead on goals and Totti ahead on assists. Ojoro don cancel Player of the Year is your normal polling booth award and you know how I feel about polling booth awards. The koko is when they both faced the big boys of Europe Del Piero 90 apps 42 goals, a CL title and a CL Golden Boot. Tell me what Totti achieved |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 3:44am On Aug 28, 2019 |
A40: OOOOOO LORD!!!!!!!!! Baba, I give up! As if using the injury excuses is not enough, you want to use your subjective interpretation of individual awards to discredit Totti's achievements? Kaii. I give up Baba!!! lol. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:53am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Roland17: You might be of slightly younger generation Sir. Nobody who saw Ronaldo pre-1998 would compare him to 2000s Ronaldo. He was a shadow of himself by then. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:54am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Roland17:Hahahaha are you La Liga BBVA that awarded Ronaldo title in 2007? He had left by January and I doubt he had more than 5 appearances. Ronaldo has just 1 La Liga to his name bruv His individual records I have listed in a pinch. He won the World Cup and the Pichichi. 80% of Ronaldo's accolades came before his injury. I can't believe this is even an argument. The real Ronaldo was 96-98 every Ronaldo afterwards was a watered down version. Similar to Del Piero who also still won a Golden Boot in Serie A, led the league in assists and helped Juventus to a CL Final. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:56am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Ibime:I can't believe anyone who watched Ronaldo will even be making that argument. Even with aid of Google you can see every thing post 99 dip nevermind if you actually saw him play |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 4:02am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Roland17:It's not a matter of giving up or not giving up. If Totti did not challenge himself to join a club where he can face the best of Europe every season then why should that be on Del Piero? One player was facing the likes of Bayern, Madrid, Monaco, Man United, Barcelona, Ajax in their prime and netting them. We should now stick to the one shining against Palermo, Reggiana and Livorno on a weekly basis but did zilch in Europe We should then go to Azzuri where Totti's best was in a World Cup where they faced USA Ghana Czech Republic Australia Ukraine And those were the teams Totti went to pad his stats against. How?? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 4:07am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Ibime: Sir, don't make hasty conclusions because while I may be younger than you, I saw pre-injury Ronaldo very much and while my first world cup was USA 94, I followed and caught up with pre 94 football games and this includes Italia 90, Mexico 86 and Espana 82, UCL champions league games and club football before. Shout out to "Best of Football Show" which I never missed on Sundays. Thing is if everybody is allowed to make excuses whether injuries, weather, food, league, language, coaching, competition or whatever you can come up with there will be no great player. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:10am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Jesus!!! Una no sleep at all because of argument. ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 4:17am On Aug 28, 2019 |
I am going to end my own argument by stating that the 98/99 cruciate ligament rupture that is being used to make excuses for Del Piero is the same cruciate ligament injury Totti suffered in 07/08. Guess what? They suffered the injury on the same knee, with Totti's even more severe but somehow Totti rehabbed better and spent 112 days while Del Piero spent 234 days. So what is the excuse now? Speaking about injuries, Del Piero spent 316 days injured in comparison to Totti who spent 583 injured and out of the game. Totti suffered more injuries on different parts of his body in comparison to Del Piero whose injury history is limited. https://www.transfermarkt.us/francesco-totti/verletzungen/spieler/5958 https://www.transfermarkt.us/alessandro-del-piero/verletzungen/spieler/4289 I can not continue to argue based on subjective points only when they favor Del Piero. Great debate @A40, you always have my respect baba. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:23am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Roland17: Did you watch Serie A on weekly basis in from 1996 to 1998? There is catching up, and there is living it live. My guy, DelPiero and Ronaldo were like Messi and Ororo of those days. Everything Ronaldo does, DelPiero would answer him. Who can forget the title decider when Collina declined to give Ronaldo a penalty for a foul, only for DelPiero to break and score the winning goal that took the title away from Inter. There is what you watch live and what you catch up historically. They resonate differently. This is why I told chic2pimp he was still in primary school during DelPieros heyday. Real life experience will give you a different feel from hindsight review. DelPiero at peak vs Totti at peak is not comparable. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 6:58am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Ibime:Chic2pimp was still wearing pampers and reading A for apple, B for ball..... ![]() ![]() I didn't even bother to interfere in the argument cos I started watching football in 96(Atlanta) Thanks to YouTube, Google and pes2002 I was able to know montella,devacchio,panucchi,Ortega et al |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 7:06am On Aug 28, 2019 |
A40:Totti’s career can be split into two parts, before ankle injury (1993-2005) and after injury (2006-2017). He clearly was never the same player after, he changed from a world class 10 into a good forward. Totti From 2000-2004 was as good as any other player on the planet. Madrid went for him twice but he refused. Del Piero at his best was nearly as good as Ronaldo. Totti was right up there with Zidane and Dinho during those period. Del Piero was simply not as gifted, nor was his peak anywhere near as long, as Totti's. He was a star man in vastly superior sides though. Totti carried Roma to a league title in 2001, and came within only 1 point of Juventus in 2002. Then he carried a relatively poor Roma side to another title challenge in 2004. This was around the time when Serie A was arguably the best league in the world. The one big criticism of Totti was his inconsistent international career even at that he is still a superior player to Del piero who was lucky to have played in a world class team 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 7:10am On Aug 28, 2019 |
A40:Then explain how he went from a young baggio heir to Prime Rooney in just one summer? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 7:25am On Aug 28, 2019 |
FBS:Balogun, greetings o. ![]() ‘Business’ dey go well baba, na just consistent tithes we no dey see na why I wan come Jand come meet you. How you see am? ![]() Add elrony for the travel plans boss make person no pray bad prayer for me ![]() 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 7:27am On Aug 28, 2019 |
donjazet:Only Dayo can do this. We underestimate that egbon too much ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 7:50am On Aug 28, 2019 |
SkimpleD:he no even join in the argument ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 9:10am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Oldies everywhere ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 9:35am On Aug 28, 2019 |
When elders are having a discussion you just sit and watch. My contribution is the little I watch of Totti he's better than Del Piero his records in Serie A speaks for him. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:38am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Kimbeast: What is this one saying? Ronaldo 1990s form was above any height Zidane and Ronaldinho reached. Good grief. BTW, Totti never competed on Ronaldinho level. When Totti was in his prime, he was never in contention on World level. Ronaldinho and co saw competition in Sheva, Lampard, Gerrard,.Kaka et al who ran the 2000s, not no Totti. God forbid, I would be the no10 in a World Cup winning side and they totally overlook me and crown a bloody centre back like Cannavaro with no mention of my name. Totti was a local champion during the decline of Serie.A. The height of SerieA was late 80s to late 90s. Serie A were whipping boys in 2000s with the exception of Milan. We can smell your inexperience,.and know that you missed the 1990s from this post. Being close to Ronaldo in the late 90s is the closest thing to God level. This is not dem say, dem say. DelPiero played with Zidane throughout late 90s and Zidane was 2nd fiddle to DelPiero throughout. Young niggas/ God keep me from.these young niggas/ Not the smart ones Lord, just the. . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxAuo8XAXCk 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 9:57am On Aug 28, 2019 |
The rate at which people over elevate De Lima Ronaldo is laughable. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:26am On Aug 28, 2019 |
sod09: Will you sharrrapppppp! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 10:35am On Aug 28, 2019 |
SkimpleD: Jah Abiba!!! 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 10:37am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Ibime: Alaga Ibime za fireman!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 10:37am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Melvyn11:De Lima is the real Ronaldo. Any other Ronaldo na counterfeit. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 10:38am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Amoto94:
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 10:45am On Aug 28, 2019 |
spillo1:Don't be naive. Ororo has had a better career and is arguably the better player between them. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 10:47am On Aug 28, 2019 |
De Lima Ronaldo is the greatest pure no9 in modern football, and it is not even close at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FFCqP8nTTw 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 10:56am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Kimbeast:I'm sure it's dope that aids your ability to deliver dead balls and dribble as well. I don't know where you got this from but by arguing with you about it I'm already doing Del P a disservice. So I will stop |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 11:04am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Cristiano wins at everything. Ronaldo is looked back on with a lot of nostalgia, romanticism and "what could have been", plus football fans tend to be overly fond of players who are incredibly gifted with the ball at their feet because they're fun to watch, but in terms of having a positive impact on games peak Cristiano was the better player. He has also had a career that's twice as impressive as Delima Ronaldo, if not more. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 11:05am On Aug 28, 2019 |
Melvyn11: Better career; yes. Better player?...De Lima is the Greatest Of All Time, see that haircut ffs ![]() ![]() |
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