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Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Barristter07: 10:04am On Jul 18, 2019 |
Janosky: There is no reason to take that one serious . the evidence is right here on this thread, he still has a long way to go 3 Likes |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Janosky: 10:12am On Jul 18, 2019 |
Janosky: JuanDeDios:JuanDeDios: – the vast majority of people don’t care about facts or logic, they’re held hostage by their emotions and only care about their own biases. I’ve already shown above that Witnesses don’t’ know what Jesus said about house to house preaching. Let me give you another example of their cluelessness – 144,000 and heaven" [quote author=JuanDeDios post] Above is the claim you made which my post addressed . I made it clear that your biases coloured your view of Jesus house to house preaching injunction which his disciples carried out or you wanna twist Acts 5:42? |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by johnw47: 12:40am On Jul 19, 2019 |
Barristter07: lie lie™ barrister lie lie™ is your trade mark, oh duh duh such a confused post and editing, from such a confused false jw, of course Barristter07: ^^^ see why lie lie™ is your trade mark ![]() and yet you agreed with me on the things i said oh confused one, (my post quoted again below) point out the things i know nothing about, oh puffed up false jw and regarding your post on ecc 12:7, forget about your previous question mark excuse, some people also use question marks for: do you agree your post was saying that ecc 12:7 is about the Holy spirit and the post you were replying to did not even mention ecc 12:7 but was in a earlier post not even on the same page Barristter07: did you ask me a question that i didn't answer, well i'm not a reader of confused minds, so ask me it again, oh so duh one, laughs johnw47: |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:40pm On Jul 29, 2019 |
Amakavula: They have always been getting it wrong and yet they claim to be the only prophetic voice of Jehovah. ![]() |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:42pm On Jul 29, 2019 |
Uchenaija: Do you take the Lord's Supper? ![]() |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:44pm On Jul 29, 2019 |
HumanHairLovers: Do you know what would have happened to your GB folks in the OT days? Thank God for His mercies. ![]() |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 12:15am On Jul 31, 2019 |
Janosky: You can't even defend your organisation. You had to resort to cursing people. E be like say you get skoin skoin. |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 12:20am On Jul 31, 2019 |
HumanHairLovers:Quote bible verses and don't quote out of context. You have to lie to defend the lies your organisation tells. The light of the righteous ke? Is it literal light or symbolic light? |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 2:01am On Jul 31, 2019 |
ifyblinksss: So since bride and harlot are not literal (it's the literal one sha) to you that means virgin isn't literal right? 144000 has to be figurative since nothing is literal 1 Like |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:01pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: According to your ideology, John 6:53,54 is a reference to communion, let me test your IQ Can someone have everlasting life if they do not eat the communion ? |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:08pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:09pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI: ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:12pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI: Are you saying the 144,000 are natural isrealites ? ![]() |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:13pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI:Which hell? The same one Jesus said people go with their body ? ![]() ![]() |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:21pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
CAPTIVATOR: If you have everlasting life you will obey the Lord's command to partake in the physical communion. What Jesus was referring to in the verse you quoted there was about partaking of Him spiritually which is more real than a physical partaking. The physical partaking is a sign that you have partaken of the Lord spiritually. |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:21pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
MightySparrow: What !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() Did I just read that ? ![]() |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:23pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: I think I did that 1. Prove that Jesus statement at John 6:53,54 is a reference to communion 2. That the 144,000 are natural isreals . Those two claims are false . |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:24pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
Barristter07: Punch ![]() |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:28pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: Good, you agree it has nothing to do with literal partaking, Like your silly copy and paste claims . Everything else you wrote is nonsense |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:35pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
CAPTIVATOR: "Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with Me"◄ John 13:8 ► Not so fast. I did not say it has nothing to do with literal partaking if you understand English. What I said was that the spiritual partaking leads to the physical partaking and since you and your JWs gang do not partake in Christ spiritually you have no reason to partake of the physical Lord's Supper because you have no part with Christ. |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 11:04am On Jan 16, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: Stop twisting the scriptures , it leads to destruction ... It says nothing about communion, Jesus was washing their feet
So why didn't that Thief on Jesus side partake before Jesus Promise him Paradise ? That means the man didn't partake of Christ spiritually and yet gain everlasting life ? Come and tell another lie . Waiting for you |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 11:23am On Jan 16, 2020 |
CAPTIVATOR: Only your governing body has the right to have Holy Spirit in them |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:15pm On Jan 16, 2020 |
CAPTIVATOR: Twisting the scriptures is the JWs fort. I knew you wouldn't be able to see the correlation with communion because you are as blind as a bat. What our Lord Jesus meant that without the washing of their feet there can be no fellowship with Him. This was the Passover Feast which speaks of His resurrection and ascension to heaven. The Passover is now known as the Lord's Supper and If you don't partake in the Lord's Supper as He has commanded His followers to do you have no part with Christ. CAPTIVATOR: The thief on His right did partake of Christ spiritually and if he would have taken part of the Lord's Supper in obedience if he had the opportunity to but JWs do not partake in this ordinance because you have no part with Christ. CAPTIVATOR: Lying is your fortress but the truth will find you out. You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:18pm On Jan 16, 2020 |
CAPTIVATOR: Straw Man fallacy. ![]() |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 1:54am On Jan 17, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: That very much applies to you, check below to see proof
So do you know you just proved that someone can actually partake of Christ spiritually WITHOUT physical partaking? That's one. You said earlier " What I said was that the spiritual partaking leads to the physical partaking " If it leads to physical partaking and the man didn't do that, that NULLIFY your claim that the man partake of Christ spiritually, , he didn't complete the process of partaking Christ spiritually according to Olaadegbu !!! When Jesus said " UNLESS you eat " so don't bring that no opportunity excuse, the word " unless" at John 6:53,54 gives no room for excuses Except you are ready to agree that partaking spiritually has nothing to do with physical partaking.?
Just as your lies on this thread |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 1:55am On Jan 17, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:Respond nah Are the 144,000 natural isrealites ? |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 8:12am On Jan 17, 2020 |
CAPTIVATOR: Yes. Since its only 144000 that will go to heaven so they are natural Israelites from the tribes listed in revelations. |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 8:16am On Jan 17, 2020 |
CAPTIVATOR: You just want to justify your gb teach that it's only gb (people who said they are part of the 144000 in 1995) that can go to heaven and partake in the wine sharing and bread breaking ( only ones to eat and drink) lol |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:11pm On Jan 19, 2020 |
CAPTIVATOR: JWs are used to propagating fake news that there will be a caste system of those who will go to heaven which is the reason they've limited it to that number. This is the evidence that you have all been condemned to not going to heaven by these false teaching because you've been indoctrinated that it only the 144, 000 that will make it and you all swallowed that lie hook, line and sinker. ![]() |
Re: The Lord's Supper And The 144,000 Anointed Jehovah Witnesses by achorladey: 11:22pm On Jan 19, 2020 |
1952 1/15 p. 62 Questions From Readers "According to the article “Hated for His Name” in the September 1, 1951, Watchtower, hundreds of thousands of Christians died in the “ten persecutions” starting in Nero’s time, 144,000 dying in Egypt alone during one of the persecutions. How can this be harmonized with the Scriptural limitation of 144,000 placed on the number being in Christ’s body, and which position was the only one open to Christians during those centuries?—J.A., Dominican Republic." Now note the WT following RESPONSE. "The article did not class with any finality the individuals that died during these persecutions, but spoke of the results in a general way. Note that a key qualification was made in the case referred to in the question: “In the province of Egypt alone, 144,000 such PROFESSED CHRISTIANS died by violence in the course of this persecution, in addition to another 700,000 who died as a result of fatigues encountered in banishment or under enforced public works.” The victims are identified as “PROFESSED CHRISTIANS”, not CHRISTIANS in fact. Many of those persons might have been caught in the wave of persecution, but may never have actually preached the truth or followed in Jesus’ footsteps, being only professed Christians. They knew the world they lived in was rotten and they were listening to the message of the Christians and willing to die for it even though not in line for the high calling in Christ Jesus. Many PROFESSED CHRISTIANS today might be willing to die for their faith, but still not be Jesus’ footstep followers and meeting the Scriptural requirements for such." What made the RESPONSE more INTERESTING was the WRITER must have FORGOT he USED "STEADFAST" in the SAME article Noted MEMBERS of the Christian church like Polycarp and Justin went STEADFASTLY into DEATH. Added horrors like the red-hot torture chairs failed to destroy the Christian faith. The fifth persecution was largely a local affair, breaking out spasmodically in various parts of the empire where existing laws against the CHRISTIANS were irregularly enforced. The emperor, Severus, invoked no new mischief by law, evidently due to his affection for the Christian doctor who had cured him of a dangerous ailment. A.D. 235 the sixth oppression fell upon the CHRISTIANS during the reign of Emperor Maximinus. This time NUMBERLESS CHRISTIAN victims were slain without any trial whatsoever and their bodies were often piled in heaps without so much as a decent burial. It is said that this persecution stemmed from Maximinus’ great hatred for his predecessor, Alexander, who had sheltered the CHRISTIANS. Under Decius, A.D. 249, the seventh persecution was inaugurated. This assault spread throughout the empire, spared neither age nor sex, and contrived to introduce torture unique to all that had gone before it. Questions to ponder......ARE JWS STILL COUNTING 144,000? Isn't that insulting to those who made the ULTIMATE SACRIFICE for staying true to their CHRISTIAN BELIEFS? I mean how does the WTS know these were NOT REAL CHRISTIANS? |
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