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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nihilistjnr: 3:31pm On Mar 30, 2020
airmark:


So you too know Scholes well. The hype job from the city of Manchester. grin

I'm sure I've done a hatchet job on the Apollo eyed mofo before

I need to consult my archives.

Scholes is a fraud. When Lampard and Gerrard started with him, he was bundled to play as a left winger for England.

Obvious he was the most prominent English midfielder from the biggest English club at the time, so Eriksson had to find a place for him - That's how a slow right-legged central midfielder with eye problems ended up playing on left wing.

They didn't even say Baba oya take right wing as a righty.

That's how he was forced to retire in shame and disgrace - He was still in his twenties when he quit England NT.

I can't blame him, one day they might have collect jersey from David James and given him to wear just to accommodate the slow coach.

Can't tackle, can't run, can see - That's probably why the man beefs Pogba so much cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nihilistjnr: 3:33pm On Mar 30, 2020
Expert17:


Well, It was from them, .... Beating Man utd doesn't change the fact Paul schooles is Phenomenon........

Barcelona as a club, ... Teach their Midfielders to play like Paul scholes....

After senior boys trash JSS all-stars 10-2, they usually buy them meatpie and yoghurt, and tell them they tried.

Such is life m

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nihilistjnr: 3:40pm On Mar 30, 2020
Paul Scholes on Gerrard and Lampard


The truth is I got on great with Sven. I don’t think there’s anyone who didn’t – we all loved playing for him.

He put me in that position because he thought Frank and Steven were better suited to playing in the middle than me. It was his choice, and it wasn’t my business to tell him where I should play.

He thought they were better than me

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:42pm On Mar 30, 2020
nihilistjnr:


I'm sure I've done a hatchet job on the Apollo eyed mofo before

I need to consult my archives.

Scholes is a fraud. When Lampard and Gerrard started with him, he was bundled to play as a left winger for England.

Obvious he was the most prominent English midfielder from the biggest English club at the time, so Eriksson had to find a place for him - That's how a slow right-legged central midfielder with eye problems ended up playing on left wing.

They didn't even say Baba oya take right wing as a righty.

That's how he was forced to retire in shame and disgrace - He was still in his twenties when he quit England NT.

I can't blame him, one day they might have collect jersey from David James and given him to wear just to accommodate the slow coach.

Can't tackle, can't run, can see - That's probably why the man beefs Pogba so much cheesy


So what was Gerrard and Lampard achievements for England

Paul scholes still scored 17 goals from wing.............. Capello begged him to return to England team, he didnt cheesy cheesy cheesy

He quit england in his Twenties, but he was bossing midfields in epl till 38/39..........

Lampard was warming bench at Man city before that age.............Aguero collected the PK cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 4:04pm On Mar 30, 2020
nihilistjnr:


I'm sure I've done a hatchet job on the Apollo eyed mofo before

I need to consult my archives.

Scholes is a fraud. When Lampard and Gerrard started with him, he was bundled to play as a left winger for England.

Obvious he was the most prominent English midfielder from the biggest English club at the time, so Eriksson had to find a place for him - That's how a slow right-legged central midfielder with eye problems ended up playing on left wing.

They didn't even say Baba oya take right wing as a righty.

That's how he was forced to retire in shame and disgrace - He was still in his twenties when he quit England NT.

I can't blame him, one day they might have collect jersey from David James and given him to wear just to accommodate the slow coach.

Can't tackle, can't run, can see - That's probably why the man beefs Pogba so much cheesy


grin grin grin

Pogba is a utility midfielder, that could give alot of assists, unlike the albino that gave 55 assists in 19 seasons.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:06pm On Mar 30, 2020
airmark:


Your Scholes couldn't score well and couldn't assist well in epl. What kind of useless, carry-along midfielder would be waiting for others to help him for 19 seasons?

If his poor assists was due to him being an albino and could give sight issues excuse, why was De bruyne able to have impressive assists stats? grin
Talmbout individual brilliance and creativity with 4 goals from open play in 15 years of champions league. This is what that diggz daughter in the village will say and everybody will laugh. You should do comedy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nihilistjnr: 4:09pm On Mar 30, 2020
Expert17:



So what was Gerrard and Lampard achievements for England

Paul scholes still scored 17 goals from wing.............. Capello begged him to return to England team, he didnt cheesy cheesy cheesy

He quit england in his Twenties, but he was bossing midfields in epl till 38/39..........

Lampard and Gerrard would have benched Scholes if they came to United

Ferguson that was offering Gerrard 7 years and 1 round with Scholes girlfriend, for him to come and bench the Albino

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:11pm On Mar 30, 2020
eph12:

Is that why a coach will prefer a balanced team to a 1000 shots per minute and pk merchant?
Scholes can’t defend, instead he tackle recklessly, those two were superior than him going forward. The coach was anticipating Owen H to play CDM but he was always injured. Carrick was on Erick Dier’s level in terms of talent. Your strong point under SAF was not midfield but attack, cross and nod tactics, playing from flank kinda football.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:13pm On Mar 30, 2020
hensben:
Scholes can’t defend, instead he tackle recklessly, those two were superior than him going forward. The coach was anticipating Owen H to play CDM but he was always injured. Carrick was on Erick Dier’s level in terms of talent. Your strong point under SAF was not midfield but attack, cross and nod tactics, playing from flank kinda football.
What was England's kinda football with your Lampard and Gerrard?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:13pm On Mar 30, 2020
Expert17:


He was played out of position, still scored 17 goals in 66 appearance,.

But this same Scholes got more trophies than Gerrard and Lampard combined
So before Lampard and Gerrard he was still been used out of position. What does that tell you about scholes. Are you aware scholes was a reckless player and every coach demand discipline mostly from their midfielders.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:18pm On Mar 30, 2020
hensben:
So before Lampard and Gerrard he was still been used out of position. What does that tell you about scholes. Are you aware scholes was a reckless player and every coach demand discipline mostly from their midfielders.

Reckless, ... I agree.....go and compare Gerrard and Scholes Red cards in EPL.....

Roy keane, Patrick Veira, are reckless also....

Lampard always think abt PK, so he can't be reckless

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:19pm On Mar 30, 2020
eph12:

What was England's kinda football with your Lampard and Gerrard?
The coach wanted to utilize both players because they were too good but absence of Hargreeves didn’t make things work as planned. Scholes played his best football for Man U in his mid 30s.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:20pm On Mar 30, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Lampard and Gerrard would have benched Scholes if they came to United

Ferguson that was offering Gerrard 7 years and 1 round with Scholes girlfriend, for him to come and bench the Albino

Just Like the way Lampard benched Yaya toure at Man city?


If Paul Scholes, return to football today, he will bench all those your midfielders at Chelsea
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:22pm On Mar 30, 2020
hensben:
Scholes can’t defend, instead he tackle recklessly, those two were superior than him going forward. The coach was anticipating Owen H to play CDM but he was always injured. Carrick was on Erick Dier’s level in terms of talent. Your strong point under SAF was not midfield but attack, cross and nod tactics, playing from flank kinda football.

So Lampard and Gerrard can defend better

Can they even pass the ball like Scholes

Or control the tempo of games??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:24pm On Mar 30, 2020
hensben:
Scholes can’t defend, instead he tackle recklessly, those two were superior than him going forward. The coach was anticipating Owen H to play CDM but he was always injured. Carrick was on Erick Dier’s level in terms of talent. Your strong point under SAF was not midfield but attack, cross and nod tactics, playing from flank kinda football.

Imagine, ... Michael Carrick on Eric dier level..... cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:26pm On Mar 30, 2020
hensben:
The coach wanted to utilize both players because they were too good but absence of Hargreeves didn’t make things work as planned. Scholes played his best football for Man U in his mid 30s.
See long story. You said utd tactics was attack, cross and nod tactics and not midfield. Oya what was England's tactics with Lampard and Gerrard ooo?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:27pm On Mar 30, 2020
Expert17:


Reckless, ... I agree.....go and compare Gerrard and Scholes Red cards in EPL.....

Roy keane, Patrick Veira, are reckless also....

Lampard always think abt PK, so he can't be reckless
If Lampard was always thinking about PK how did he get more assist than scholes who was always thinking about spreading passes. Roy keane and Viera were stubborn and not reckless. They were CDM so making tackles was their primary duty. Scholes was reckless as a CM, his defensive frailties was always showing so playing him behind Gerrard and Lampard would’ve been more suicidal. Owen H would’ve be the right player behind those two, not scholes.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 4:28pm On Mar 30, 2020
eph12:

Talmbout individual brilliance and creativity with 4 goals from open play in 15 years of champions league. This is what that diggz daughter in the village will say and everybody will laugh. You should do comedy

Why are you shying away from Lampard/Scholes argument but always bringing Hazard into it? grin

Are you ashamed of 55 assists in 19 seasons from the so-called best English CM? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:33pm On Mar 30, 2020
eph12:

See long story. You said utd tactics was attack, cross and nod tactics and not midfield. Oya what was England's tactics with Lampard and Gerrard ooo?
Fast transitional football is what the coach was playing with those two in midfield. If Owen H was fit the tactics would’ve been perfect or rather worked well.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:35pm On Mar 30, 2020
airmark:


Why are you shying away from Lampard/Scholes argument but always bringing Hazard into it? grin

Are you ashamed of 55 assists in 19 seasons from the so-called best English CM? grin
Just imagine. Was Hazard only playing ucl. What about his other goals. Yeye.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:39pm On Mar 30, 2020
hensben:
If Lampard was always thinking about PK how did he get more assist than scholes who was always thinking about spreading passes. Roy keane and Viera were stubborn and not reckless. They were CDM so making tackles was their primary duty. Scholes was reckless as a CM, his defensive frailties was always showing so playing him behind Gerrard and Lampard would’ve been more suicidal. Owen H would’ve be the right player behind those two, not scholes.


The same Paul Scholes was in Man utd first team for 19 seasons, ... Playing with more than 20 midfielders, ....still remained in the 1st eleven......
Won 11 out of 19 EPL, ....more than Gerrard and Lampard combined....

4-4-2 under Fergie- the two man midfield, Paul scholes and a DM, job is to stop the opposition from playing, dictate the tempo, open up defence with long pass, frustrate the opponent tactics, ....

Most football stars, rate him higher than Gerrard and Lampard in terms of ball playing and midfield control.......
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:42pm On Mar 30, 2020
Expert17:


Imagine, ... Michael Carrick on Eric dier level..... cheesy cheesy cheesy

How will you know when SAF tactics was working, cr7 and others were there and also with the help of FA. Are you aware SAF won Epl with cleverly starting, Will you now say cleverly was better than fletcher.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:46pm On Mar 30, 2020
hensben:
Fast transitional football is what the coach was playing with those two in midfield. If Owen H was fit the tactics would’ve been perfect or rather worked well.
So because of one Owen H, Lampard and Gerrard were useless?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:47pm On Mar 30, 2020
hensben:
How will you know when SAF tactics was working, cr7 and others were there and also with the help of FA. Are you aware SAF won Epl with cleverly starting, Will you now say cleverly was better than fletcher.

So you haven'tt heard about Coach effect/impact on players......

Fergie can win the league once the Spinal cord of the team is good to go....

From 2007- 2009 Spinal cord. Vanderser- Vidic- Scholes-Ronaldo-Rooney
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 4:47pm On Mar 30, 2020
Adnan Januzaj: "For me the best player is Cristiano Ronaldo, but my favourite is Pogba, because I grew up playing with him. Manchester United is my second team after Real [Sociedad]."

- Sport Witness
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:48pm On Mar 30, 2020
airmark:


Why are you shying away from Lampard/Scholes argument but always bringing Hazard into it? grin

Are you ashamed of 55 assists in 19 seasons from the so-called best English CM? grin
You were talking about your YES and NO na. We just wanted your clarification on Hazard champions league goals. YES or NO?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:48pm On Mar 30, 2020
Expert17:



The same Paul Scholes was in Man utd first team for 19 seasons, ... Playing with more than 20 midfielders, ....still remained in the 1st eleven......
Won 11 out of 19 EPL, ....more than Gerrard and Lampard combined....

4-4-2 under Fergie- the two man midfield, Paul scholes and a DM, job is to stop the opposition from playing, dictate the tempo, open up defence with long pass, frustrate the opponent tactics, ....

Most football stars, rate him higher than Gerrard and Lampard in terms of ball playing and midfield control.......
That is because he was a CM while Lampard was AMF with different tactics, different playing pattern. So as a CM, scholes primary role was to dictate the play, did he make fifa 11 at any point in his career in his primary role? It’s not by how far but how well. 19 years in one club yet his individual award is like that of morosso budget.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:53pm On Mar 30, 2020
eph12:

So because of one Owen H, Lampard and Gerrard were useless?
When last England won any major trophy before those two? And also when scholes was there before those two what did England win.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Swissh: 4:55pm On Mar 30, 2020
Expert17:
Denis Bergkamp: “He’s the master.”

Emmanuel Petit: “At Arsenal me and Patrick (Vieira) didn’t want to face Scholes. We would avoid him.”

Edgar Davids: “”Every one of us (midfielders) is just trying to become as good as him. Everyone can learn from Paul Scholes.”

Edgar Davids: “I’m not the best, Paul Scholes is.”

Tony Adams: “I really rate Paul Scholes, because he hasn’t got the high profile of many of the Manchester United players, he doesn’t get too much attention, but he is one very good player. He is an intelligent player, he works hard and he scores some great goals. He is not flamboyant and is a quiet lad off the pitch but he is a tremendous asset to Manchester United and to England. He has already got my vote as player of the year.”

Cesc Fabregas: “He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League.”

Patrick Vieira: “The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy – Scholes.”

Thierry Henry: “I can’t understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t seek the limelight like some of the other ‘stars’.”

Zinedine Zidane: “My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder.”

Zinedine Zidane : “Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation.”

Sam Allardyce : “There is not a better midfield player in the world.”

Samir Nasri: “Sad to hear Paul Scholes is retiring great player world class player the English Zizou.”
Kevin Keegan: “What United have got that Chelsea haven’t is Paul Scholes. I think he is different to anything else in English football.”

Marcello Lippi: “Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. Scholes is a player I have always liked, because he combines great talent and technical ability with mobility, determination and a superb shot. He is an all-round midfielder who possesses character and quality in abundance. In my opinion, he’s been one of the most important players for United under Sir Alex.”

Fabio Capello: “It’s a shame he’s not available to play for England. If he was, he’d be the first name in my squad.”

Ray Wilkins: “I’m saddened because I think we as spectators, not only in this country but right throughout Europe and the rest of the World, will be missing one hell of a footballer.”

Gordon Strachan: “Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You’d probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb.”

Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who’s the best english player : “Paul Scholes.”

Peter Schmeichel: “People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn’t notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen.”

Laurent Blanc: “Scholes is the best English player. Intelligence, technique, strength… all the attributes are there. At Manchester United I saw what he could do on the training field. Phew!”

David Beckham said that, among his teammates at Real Madrid, which included Zinedine Zidane, Raúl, Ronaldo, Luís Figo and Roberto Carlos, Scholes was the most admired opponent: “He’s always one of those people others talk about. Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always say to me ‘what’s he like’? They respect him as a footballer and see him as the ultimate.”

Glenn Hoddle: “There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world.”

Terry Venables: “He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player.”

Alan Shearer: “If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time.”

Eidur Gudjohnsen: “I’m more an admirer of Paul Scholes than I am of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but he has 10 other great players around him every week…Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I’ve ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him.”

Micah Richards: “He’s always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder – when he’s fit, he’s the best. Some go missing but he’s in the right place at the right time. He’s my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it’s a goal, isn’t it?”

Ronaldo (Brazilian): “He’s the phenomenon.”


Swissh hope you saw Fabregas comment
Fabregas shitts on Scholes with everything. You only get power over the penalty merchant called lampard . Leave the lion out of a discussion about sheeps.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Swissh: 4:58pm On Mar 30, 2020
Melvyn11:

Everyone knows lampard and the only things he is good at. Scoring awof penalties and deflected goals.
Arsenal is the club in the England that actually owns most of the best players to ever step foot in England followed by Liverpool. The rest clubs have mostly overrated and overhyped dunce.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:59pm On Mar 30, 2020
hensben:
When last England won any major trophy before those two? And also when scholes was there before those two what did England win.
So no difference between Scholes that can't play midfield and world class Lampard + Gerrard? That tough?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:59pm On Mar 30, 2020
hensben:
[b]That is because he was a CM while Lampard was AMF with different tactics, [/b]different playing pattern. So as a CM, scholes primary role was to dictate the play, did he make fifa 11 at any point in his career in his primary role? It’s not by how far but how well. 19 years in one club yet his individual award is like that of morosso budget.

@bolded is correct.... So you shouldn't expect Scholes to Assists or Score like Lampard.....

Please list Gerrard's individual award cheesy

Scholes trophies should be almost same with chelsea's trophies....

You should know by now, Paul scholes doesnt play for all that personal glory, .... Team glory is his priority....

That is why he doesn't fight Rooney for Penalty like Lampard cheesy cheesy

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