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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Benevento(m): 12:50am On May 03, 2020
maestroferddi:
You best the Igbos in Trade and Investment and Entertainment, dude what did you smoke?

From Lekki -Ajah to Badagry, the Igbos account for, at least, 35 per cent of business ownership and activities in Lagos State....

Almost all the major markets in Lagos are Igbo-dominated.

If all Igbo business people elect not to patronize all bank branches in Lagos, there certainly will be a bank run.

Did I hear entertainment?

Nigeria movie and cinema was non-existent till Igbos brought the Midas touch.

Nollywood is over 50 percent Igbo content.
No brainier, dude..

Abi nah 99% percent of Lagos is owned by Igbos.

The top 10 highest grossed movies in Nigeria were produced by Igbos.


What are fool you are, a very big one.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by maestroferddi: 12:53am On May 03, 2020
Misterdhee1:
Funny how igboland looks so good potential-wise on this thread but remains largely shitty in reality despite over 21 years of singlehandedly choosing their leaders from the same political parties. How come despite all the potentials, most igbos would die to hustle in Lagos or Kano rather than stay home and harness these potentials? Is Nigeria the reason for that too? grin
Why do most Americans migrate to New York and California?

Lagos is the commercial hub of Nigeria so it is natural that determine people like the Igbos would go there.

Besides, the Igbos are major stakeholders in Lagos having contributed immensely to what the state is today ....

Everything should not be defeatist tribalism and pettiness...

People go to America to chase the American dream. Americans do not sit down lazily antogonizing and begrudging the migrants who aririve their country of their successes/affluence.

They apply themselves to also make their own mark so that everybody is doing well for themselves....

Go figure..

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Benevento(m): 12:54am On May 03, 2020
Masetroferddi Wizkid Davido Olamide Dbanj Fireboy are all from Enugu.


The highest grossed Nollywood movies were produced in Asaba.

We owned Lagos, Lagos is our Commonwealth, we make up 95% of Lagos population.

If Nigeria breaks today, Lagos is our property, we gonna retain it.
Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by maestroferddi: 1:09am On May 03, 2020
Benevento:


Abi nah 99% percent of Lagos is owned by Igbos.

The top 10 highest grossed movies in Nigeria were produced by Igbos.


What are fool you are, a very big one.
When you nose is bloodied you resort to childish insults and infantile tantrum.

The Igbos principally made Nollywood what it is today, that is beyond reasonable contention.

Highest grossing movies,?

Ogbeni, you are doing a straw man argument ..

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by maestroferddi: 1:13am On May 03, 2020
Benevento:
Masetroferddi Wizkid Davido Olamide Dbanj Fireboy are all from Enugu.


The highest grossed Nollywood movies were produced in Asaba.

We owned Lagos, Lagos is our Commonwealth, we make up 95% of Lagos population.

If Nigeria breaks today, Lagos is our property, we gonna retain it.
If only you had remembered that the P Square duo were among the notable pacesetters who did the leg-work that energing stars are latching on to today...

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by rdokoye: 1:19am On May 03, 2020
Benevento:
Masetroferddi Wizkid Davido Olamide Dbanj Fireboy are all from Enugu.


The highest grossed Nollywood movies were produced in Asaba.

We owned Lagos, Lagos is our Commonwealth, we make up 95% of Lagos population.

If Nigeria breaks today, Lagos is our property, we gonna retain it.

Is this the place you say beats anything Igbo people have to offer?

Ibadan (Capital of Yorubaland)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4SyeBLN-Tg&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkUYY2Ur8z0

Compare that to the capital of Igboland (Enugu)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3KuvtEGHVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHnJZ9JGw5w

You be the judge.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Benevento(m): 1:31am On May 03, 2020
rdokoye:


Is this the place you say beats anything Igbo people have to offer?

Ibadan (Capital of Yorubaland)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4SyeBLN-Tg&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkUYY2Ur8z0

Compare that to the capital of Igboland (Enugu)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3KuvtEGHVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHnJZ9JGw5w

You be the judge.

See this one, Is Enugu more developed than Ibadan? chai.

The gods are feasting on this one's brain.

Ooh I forgot, everywhere in igboland look like the picture below, no mud, no erosion site, just skyscrapers everywhere, Fool.

Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Benevento(m): 1:35am On May 03, 2020
maestroferddi:
If only you had remembered that the P Square duo were among the notable pacesetters who did the leg-work that energing stars are latching on to today...

Baba shut up, P square brothers are now upcoming artist.

The highest grossing Nollywood movies were produced by Yorubas.

Yorubas control did not only control the entertainment industry but every sector in Nigeria.
https://www.thatnollywoodblog.com/highest-grossing-nollywood-movies/

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Benevento(m): 1:39am On May 03, 2020
maestroferddi:
When you nose is bloodied you resort to childish insults and infantile tantrum.

The Igbos principally made Nollywood what it is today, that is beyond reasonable contention.

Highest grossing movies,?

Ogbeni, you are doing a straw man argument ..

Yorubas started producing movies long before you guys produced living in bondage.

The likes of Hubert ogude, papa Ajasco are the pioneer of Nollywood.


Yorubas Currently controls the entertainment. Fool.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by rdokoye: 1:45am On May 03, 2020
Benevento:


See this one, Is Enugu more developed than Ibadan? chai.

The gods are feasting on this one's brain.

Ooh I forgot, everywhere in igboland look like the picture below, no mud, no erosion site, just skyscrapers everywhere, Fool.

If you call that development, then there's nothing that can help you.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by maestroferddi: 1:46am On May 03, 2020
Benevento:


Yorubas started producing movies long before you guys produced living in bondage.

The likes of Hubert ogude, papa Ajasco are the pioneer of Nollywood.


Yorubas Currently controls the entertainment. Fool.
Try and pretend to be a man by dropping insulting words...

You just don't have to get emotional ...

Oga we had people doing theatre also in Igboland...

The Igbos launched Nigerian motion picture to the stratosphere ....

Yorubas dominate music, the Igbos hold all the four aces in in movie making and production..

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Benevento(m): 1:56am On May 03, 2020
rdokoye:


Is this the place you say beats anything Igbo people have to offer?

Ibadan (Capital of Yorubaland)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4SyeBLN-Tg&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkUYY2Ur8z0

Compare that to the capital of Igboland (Enugu)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3KuvtEGHVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHnJZ9JGw5w

You be the judge.

This one posted a video which I don't care to see.

You must be a fool to compare Enugu with Ibadan.

Ibadan is not only better than Enugu but every Igbo cities.

Education : Ibadan has the best University in Nigeria.

Economy : no Igbo city comes close ( everything is not about owning 2x2 show shop in the dirtiest city in the world.

Infrastructures : Standard malls, stadium, resort centres, the busiest road in Nigeria is Lagos-Ibadan express way, Cinemas.

Ibadan is more popular.

Cocoa house was the tallest building few years ago.

Can you see that you are a joker? If your Enugu was in anyway better, you people will not be trooping here everyday, the dream of every Igbo man is to come hustle in SW, if not for the lockdown God knows the number of GIG motors that would have arrived SW today.

Baba goan sit down joor.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Zyzxx10: 1:58am On May 03, 2020
Prob the southwest
Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by afube: 2:00am On May 03, 2020
Kennyswag:
how much is nigeria remittance lol..

what percentage of your Nigeria's total remittance is from ndigbo.................?

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Benevento(m): 2:02am On May 03, 2020
rdokoye:


If you call that development, then there's nothing that can help you.

Are you okay, that picture is new York times square, I used it because you Igbos resort to mocking Ibadan with brown roofs as if everywhere in your potopoto republic is made of Gold.

Ancient buildings are everywhere.

Which ibo city is more developed than ibadan.?
Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by rdokoye: 2:05am On May 03, 2020
Benevento:


Are you okay, that picture is new York times square, I used it because you Igbos resort to mocking Ibadan with brown roofs as if everywhere in your potopoto republic is made of Gold.

Ancient buildings are everywhere.

Which ibo city is more developed than ibadan.?

If you call what you see in Ibadan, development, then you need serious help. Ibadan is a slum city.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Benevento(m): 2:05am On May 03, 2020
maestroferddi:
Try and pretend to be a man by dropping insulting words...

You just don't have to get emotional ...

Oga we had people doing theatre also in Igboland...

The Igbos launched Nigerian motion picture to the stratosphere ....

Yorubas dominate music, the Igbos hold all the four aces in in movie making and production..

Yorubas produced quality movies and that's why our movies are the highest grossing movies in Nollywood.

Hence, we controls both music and movies.
Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Benevento(m): 2:07am On May 03, 2020
rdokoye:


If you call what you see in Ibadan, development, then you need serious help. Ibadan is a slum city.
if Ibadan is a slum city then Enugu is trash.

Iboland where people make use of drainage instead of the road.

Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by rdokoye: 2:07am On May 03, 2020
Benevento:


This one posted a video which I don't care to see.

You must be a fool to compare Enugu with Ibadan.

Ibadan is not only better than Enugu but every Igbo cities.

Education : Ibadan has the best University in Nigeria.

Economy : no Igbo city comes close ( everything is not about owning 2x2 show shop in the dirtiest city in the world.

Infrastructures : Standard malls, stadium, resort centres, the busiest road in Nigeria is Lagos-Ibadan express way, Cinemas.

Ibadan is more popular.

Cocoa house was the tallest building few years ago.

Can you see that you are a joker? If your Enugu was in anyway better, you people will not be trooping here everyday, the dream of every Igbo man is to come hustle in SW, if not for the lockdown God knows the number of GIG motors that would have arrived SW today.

Baba goan sit down joor.

Look at this one having a fit over video imagery of Ibadan. I didn't make the video. I man from Ibadan did. You know, just as well as I, that Ibadan is a slum city, in need of serious redevelopment. No amount of fanciful talking will change that.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Benevento(m): 2:09am On May 03, 2020
rdokoye:


Look at this one having a fit over video imagery of Ibadan. I didn't make the video. I man from Ibadan did. You know, just as well as I, that Ibadan is a slum city, in need of serious redevelopment. No amount of fanciful talking will change that.
I repeat if Ibadan is a slum then iboland should be for for animals, because the word slum is too big for ibo cities.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by rdokoye: 2:27am On May 03, 2020
Benevento:
I repeat if Ibadan is a slum then iboland should be for for animals, because the word slum is too big for ibo cities.

Abeokuta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwae0R4gwhs

Owerri

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUVpPGdosVE&t=292s

Let everyone be the judge.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by horsepower102: 2:55am On May 03, 2020
maestroferddi:
My brother Nigeria is in trouble....

Imagine the shallowness of people who should embody the hope of this nation.

They hardly read. There worldview and repertoire begins and ends with asinine ethnocentric defeatism...

Their plans is to make igbos hurt as much as possible for deciding to leave. They hope and pray for a highly disadvantaged igbo nation that won’t be able to compete at the global stage and will depend on their unnecessary ports for livelihood.

They failed woefully because if they had read, they would have know how wrong they were. But igbophobia blinds people from reasoning properly.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Nobody: 3:01am On May 03, 2020
Ultimately, all is capable of forming a country, afterall Nigeria is also a country. Stability and prosperity are entirely a different thing.

To the extent that SW, NW and SE are somewhat homogeneous, I think they will have a measure of political stability. NE, NW and SS will have problems on that front. It is tendency of ethnically-diverse states to be politically unstable which is even the case with Nigeria as presently constituted (except a miraculous constitution is made to mitigate intra-domination or domineering tendencies). It is the Nigerian state that imposes what looks like an order on those regions-SS,NC,NE-- and once it ceases to exist, it will be free for all there. I don't even think we can have an independent SS republic as it is. The Edo and Isekiri for instance are not exactly aligned with Efik and Ikwerri on anything. While both could live with Nigeria as it is, I am not too sure they could be subservient to one another. Numerous ethnic nationalities of almost equal strength meant all would make a move to exert control where permitted or out-rightly impose their will by force. Issues like revenue allocation formula, where capital city is located, census and population and the nature of the state and government would be difficult to resolve. What I forsee is a degeneration to war within few years after such independence is achieved or proclaimed--a la what happened to Nigeria itself, south sudan etc. A more realistic scenario is SS would balkanize into several units with some ultimately move to join SE, some form an independent state, and some could even move to join SW. What is true of SS is true of NC. There is no common solidarity theme that could unite them. Kwara and Kogi are as different from Nasarawa and Plateau in ethnic composition and religious inclinations. What I forsee is a tendency for Kogi and Kwara where possible to tilt more towards SW than stay in a NC state where they are not masters of their destinies. Benue could even move to join SE. Bold initiatives like IPOB call for referendum, SW's Amotekun etc could only come from cohesive regions. Things like that are difficult to implement is a region like SS or NC where it could easily be sabotaged. The case against NE is religious devision. Religious division is often easy to manage within the same ethnicity (Yoruba for instance) since you can project ethnic nationalism as common theme. But once it involves two or more ethnic groups, there is a tendency for one to dominate the other and unless a miraculous constitution is fashioned to address it, such a union is doomed.

Realistically, I think part of NC will join SW, and part of SS could end up joining SW too. Similarly, part of SS will join SE and part of NC could end up joining SE too. Part of NC and NE will join NW, while the remaining units could form independent states. In other words, there won't be a NC or SS republic anticipated by many folks.

On economic front, SW, SE and NW will do better than the rest. A country dissolution would not miraculously create another Lagos in the north or even in the south. Much same way, one won't leave better opportunities in Lagos for fantasy elsewhere. Patriotism or ethnic loyalty does not pay the bills. If Lagos-Ibadan and Lagos-ogun rails could be completed and maintained, then development could spread faster to SW hinterlands and that could give them a head start over other regions. Plus, these regions have top notch universities, reasonable and sizable industrial base with one of the best seaports in the region. So, developing manpower and engaging in trades with rest of the world will be a bit easier than other two region. SE will have access to the sea through states from SS that joined them and could take charge of its destinies too. NW will find it tough since it will be effectively landlock, with no reasonable or competitive manpower and lack of industrial base. Fate is not fatal, so if it manages to have a good leader, things could turn around.

My money really will be on SW because of existing infrastructure within the region, relatively educated populace, sizable industrial base and peaceful disposition. Put someone in the mold of Fasola in charge, and the region could be radically different within two decades. SE will compete but extent of its success is dependent on adjoining states that allow access to sea. If the relationship is not well managed, it could even impede SE's development strides. SW advantage, really, seems to be self sufficiency in most critical things that could allow her to call the bluff of adjoining states that wanted to join it or not.

This of course assumes the dissolution would be peaceful. Otherwise, you may have NW holding on to NC by force or it could be a fight to finish where the seemingly standing regions razed to the ground with the backwaters having a head start . And honestly, I don't think Nigeria can dissolve peacefully so we are mostly engaged in fantasy here.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by rdokoye: 3:16am On May 03, 2020
Olddirtywizard:
Ultimately, all is capable of forming a country, afterall Nigeria is also a country. Stability and prosperity are entirely a different thing.

To the extent that SW, NW and SE are somewhat homogeneous, I think they will have a measure of political stability. NE, NW and SS will have problems on that front. It is tendency of ethnically-diverse states to be politically unstable which is even the case with Nigeria as presently constituted (except a miraculous constitution is made to mitigate intra-domination or domineering tendencies). It is the Nigerian state that imposes what looks like an order on those regions-SS,NC,NE-- and once it ceases to exist, it will be free for all there. I don't even think we can have an independent SS republic as it is. The Edo and Isekiri for instance are not exactly aligned with Efik and Ikwerri on anything. While both could live with Nigeria as it is, I am not too sure they could be subservient to one another. Numerous ethnic nationalities of almost equal strength meant all would make a move to exert control where permitted or out-rightly impose their will by force. Issues like revenue allocation formula, where capital city is located, census and population and the nature of the state and government would be difficult to resolve. What I forsee is a degeneration to war within few years after such independence is achieved or proclaimed--a la what happened to Nigeria itself, south sudan etc. A more realistic scenario is SS would balkanize into several units with some ultimately move to join SE, some form an independent state, and some could even move to join SW. What is true of SS is true of NC. There is no common solidarity theme that could unite them. Kwara and Kogi are as different from Nasarawa and Plateau in ethnic composition and religious inclinations. What I forsee is a tendency for Kogi and Kwara where possible to tilt more towards SW than stay in a NC state where they are not masters of their destinies. Benue could even move to join SE. Bold initiatives like IPOB call for referendum, SW's Amotekun etc could only come from cohesive regions. Things like that are difficult to implement is a region like SS or NC where it could easily be sabotaged. The case against NE is religious devision. Religious division is often easy to manage within the same ethnicity (Yoruba for instance) since you can project ethnic nationalism as common theme. But once it involves two or more ethnic groups, there is a tendency for one to dominate the other and unless a miraculous constitution is fashioned to address it, such a union is doomed.

Realistically, I think part of NC will join SW, and part of SS could end up joining SW too. Similarly, part of SS will join SE and part of NC could end up joining SE too. Part of NC and NE will join NW, while the remaining units could form independent states. In other words, there won't be a NC or SS republic anticipated by many folks.

On economic front, SW, SE and NW will do better than the rest. A country dissolution would not miraculously create another Lagos in the north or even in the south. Much same way, one won't leave better opportunities in Lagos for fantasy elsewhere. Patriotism or ethnic loyalty does not pay the bills. If Lagos-Ibadan and Lagos-ogun rails could be completed and maintained, then development could spread faster to SW hinterlands and that could give them a head start over other regions. Plus, these regions have top notch universities, reasonable and sizable industrial base with one of the best seaports in the region. So, developing manpower and engaging in trades with rest of the world will be a bit easier than other two region. SE will have access to the sea through states from SS that joined them and could take charge of its destinies too. NW will find it tough since it will be effectively landlock, with no reasonable or competitive manpower and lack of industrial base. Fate is not fatal, so if it manages to have a good leader, things could turn around.

My money really will be on SW because of existing infrastructure within the region, relatively educated populace, sizable industrial base and peaceful disposition. Put someone in the mold of Fasola in charge, and the region could be radically different within two decades. SE will compete but extent of its success is dependent on adjoining states that allow access to sea. If the relationship is not well managed, it could even impede SE's development strides. SW advantage, really, seems to be self sufficiency in most critical things that could allow her to call the bluff of adjoining states that wanted to join it or not.

This of course assumes the dissolution would be peaceful. Otherwise, you may have NW holding on to NC by force or it could be a fight to finish where the seemingly standing regions razed to the ground with the backwaters having a head start . And honestly, I don't think Nigeria can dissolve peacefully so we are mostly engaged in fantasy here.

The South-East already has access to the sea; so it doesn't need the South-South for that. Moreover, the success of a nation, isn't dependant on weather or not it can access the sea. There are tons of countries in Africa with sea access that are dirt poor. It's the people that determine the success of a country. And Igboland, without a doubt has the most capacity - it isn't even up for debate.

Igboland as a country, would have a large indigenous industrial base, much larger than anywhere else in Nigeria. Most of the industries, if not all of them, in the South-West are multinationals, which means, they are likely to fold up, in the event of a Nigeria split.

I don't see why the South-West will be any better than Benin, as a country by itself. If you look at most of the states in the South-West, and then travel to Benin, you won't see much of a difference, in terms of development, infrastructure etc.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by horsepower102: 3:16am On May 03, 2020
Olddirtywizard:
Ultimately, all is capable of forming a country, afterall Nigeria is also a country. Stability and prosperity are entirely a different thing.

To the extent that SW, NW and SE are somewhat homogeneous, I think they will have a measure of political stability. NE, NW and SS will have problems on that front. It is tendency of ethnically-diverse states to be politically unstable which is even the case with Nigeria as presently constituted (except a miraculous constitution is made to mitigate intra-domination or domineering tendencies). It is the Nigerian state that imposes what looks like an order on those regions-SS,NC,NE-- and once it ceases to exist, it will be free for all there. I don't even think we can have an independent SS republic as it is. The Edo and Isekiri for instance are not exactly aligned with Efik and Ikwerri on anything. While both could live with Nigeria as it is, I am not too sure they could be subservient to one another. Numerous ethnic nationalities of almost equal strength meant all would make a move to exert control where permitted or out-rightly impose their will by force. Issues like revenue allocation formula, where capital city is located, census and population and the nature of the state and government would be difficult to resolve. What I forsee is a degeneration to war within few years after such independence is achieved or proclaimed--a la what happened to Nigeria itself, south sudan etc. A more realistic scenario is SS would balkanize into several units with some ultimately move to join SE, some form an independent state, and some could even move to join SW. What is true of SS is true of NC. There is no common solidarity theme that could unite them. Kwara and Kogi are as different from Nasarawa and Plateau in ethnic composition and religious inclinations. What I forsee is a tendency for Kogi and Kwara where possible to tilt more towards SW than stay in a NC state where they are not masters of their destinies. Benue could even move to join SE. Bold initiatives like IPOB call for referendum, SW's Amotekun etc could only come from cohesive regions. Things like that are difficult to implement is a region like SS or NC where it could easily be sabotaged. The case against NE is religious devision. Religious division is often easy to manage within the same ethnicity (Yoruba for instance) since you can project ethnic nationalism as common theme. But once it involves two or more ethnic groups, there is a tendency for one to dominate the other and unless a miraculous constitution is fashioned to address it, such a union is doomed.

Realistically, I think part of NC will join SW, and part of SS could end up joining SW too. Similarly, part of SS will join SE and part of NC could end up joining SE too. Part of NC and NE will join NW, while the remaining units could form independent states. In other words, there won't be a NC or SS republic anticipated by many folks.

On economic front, SW, SE and NW will do better than the rest. A country dissolution would not miraculously create another Lagos in the north or even in the south. Much same way, one won't leave better opportunities in Lagos for fantasy elsewhere. Patriotism or ethnic loyalty does not pay the bills. If Lagos-Ibadan and Lagos-ogun rails could be completed and maintained, then development could spread faster to SW hinterlands and that could give them a head start over other regions. Plus, these regions have top notch universities, reasonable and sizable industrial base with one of the best seaports in the region. So, developing manpower and engaging in trades with rest of the world will be a bit easier than other two region. SE will have access to the sea through states from SS that joined them and could take charge of its destinies too. NW will find it tough since it will be effectively landlock, with no reasonable or competitive manpower and lack of industrial base. Fate is not fatal, so if it manages to have a good leader, things could turn around.

My money really will be on SW because of existing infrastructure within the region, relatively educated populace, sizable industrial base and peaceful disposition. Put someone in the mold of Fasola in charge, and the region could be radically different within two decades. SE will compete but extent of its success is dependent on adjoining states that allow access to sea. If the relationship is not well managed, it could even impede SE's development strides. SW advantage, really, seems to be self sufficiency in most critical things that could allow her to call the bluff of adjoining states that wanted to join it or not.

This of course assumes the dissolution would be peaceful. Otherwise, you may have NW holding on to NC by force or it could be a fight to finish where the seemingly standing regions razed to the ground with the backwaters having a head start . And honestly, I don't think Nigeria can dissolve peacefully so we are mostly engaged in fantasy here.

I clapped for you for your intelligent and neutral analysis. Well said.

My only correction to you is that the south east in it’s current form don’t need south south to gain access to the sea. A lot of Nigerians struggle with this concept of international waters.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by rdokoye: 3:20am On May 03, 2020
Benevento:


Are you okay, that picture is new York times square, I used it because you Igbos resort to mocking Ibadan with brown roofs as if everywhere in your potopoto republic is made of Gold.

Ancient buildings are everywhere.

Which ibo city is more developed than ibadan.?

This is Ibadan at street level:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-Ymvyen38

Compare that to Owerri:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYgbk2WvmeQ&feature=emb_title

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by horsepower102: 3:20am On May 03, 2020
rdokoye:


The South-East already has access to the sea; so it doesn't need the South-South for that. Moreover, the success of a nation, isn't dependant on weather or not it can access the sea. There are tons of countries in Africa with sea access that are dirt poor. It's the people that determine the success of a country. And Igboland, without a doubt has the most capacity - it isn't even up for debate.

Igboland as a country, would have a large indigenous industrial base, much larger than anywhere else in Nigeria. Most of the industries, if not all of them, in the South-West are multinationals, which means, they are likely to fold up, in the event of a Nigeria split.

I don't see why the South-West will be any better than Benin, as a country by itself. If you look at most of the states in the South-West, and then travel to Benin, you won't see much of a difference, in terms of development, infrastructure etc.

This access to the sea issues keeps exposing the mindset of the average Nigerians towards igbos but unfortunately they have refused to read international laws and norms.

Don’t worry a lot of things will shock Nigerians once Igbos get their freedom.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Nobody: 3:23am On May 03, 2020
rdokoye:


The South-East already has access to the sea; so it doesn't need the South-South for that. Moreover, the success of a nation, isn't dependant on weather or not it can access the sea. There are tons of countries in Africa with sea access that are dirt poor. It's the people that determine the success of a country. And Igboland, without a doubt has the most capacity - it isn't even up for debate.

Igboland as a country, would have a large indigenous industrial base, much larger than anywhere else in Nigeria. Most of the industries, if not all of them, in the South-West are multinationals, which means, they are likely to fold up, in the event of a Nigeria split.

I don't see why the South-West will be any better than Benin, as a country by itself. If you look at most of the states in the South-West, and then travel to Benin, you won't see much of a difference, in terms of development, infrastructure etc.

We are mostly engaged in fantasy here so I won't waste my time and yours on back and forth. SE as constituted within Nigeria's geographical map has no access to sea. But Igbo as a group is bigger than SE, and ethnic nationality supersedes geography anyway so I do believe Igbo have access to sea.

Why do you think the multinational in SW will fold up?

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by darrenboy20(m): 3:25am On May 03, 2020
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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Misterdhee1(m): 4:38am On May 03, 2020
maestroferddi:
Why do most Americans migrate to New York and California?

Lagos is the commercial hub of Nigeria so it is natural than determine people like the Igbos would go there.

Besides, the Igbos are major stakeholders in Lagos having contributed immensely to what the state is today ....

Everything should not be defeatist tribalism and pettiness...

People go to America to chase the American dream. Americans do not sit down lazily antogonizing and begrudging the migrants who aririve their country of their successes/affluence.

They apply themselves to also make their own mark so that everybody is doing well for themselves....

Go figure..

Migration is a human thing. There are equally more yorubas in UK than Igbos and probably as many igbos as yoruba in USA. Migration is based on individual preferences. There are still millions of igbos at home, isn't that the case? Kill trade, and watch the larger part of igbos struggle for breath.

Igbos are able to achieve so much in Lagos because the governing policies and the location provide an enabling environment for any willing trader. And theres representation across Nigeria in the state because of this, it's not solely an igbo thing. Smart northerners are making it, same as smart individuals from other regions. Do you think Lagos would have such level of tolerance for non-local investors if it was based in the EAST? Best of luck answering that question when you guys get your biafra.

The question is how come there's so much thirst for foreign lands (with arguably lesser potentials compared to what's obtainable in the east according to comments on this thread) when you guys could easily develop your individual states by tapping into the "massive potentials" that have been highlighted so far in the thread? grin Is the FG to blame for that? In simple terms, you guys are accusing Nigeria as the reason why you guys prefer the potentials in Kano and Lagos to the potentials in Owerri and Aba. Is that not insanity? grin

The only difference between you guys and fulanis is just the level of education and exposure. An average igbo man is as intolerant, unaccommodating to his host and domineering as a Fulani man. If given the free will, you guys will prefer to rule over every community you find yourselves while your states remain inhabitable with conditions as bad as IDP camps. No wonder NK is able to attract so many hapless youths from your villages.

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Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by Misterdhee1(m): 4:48am On May 03, 2020
maestroferddi:
Don't mind the deluded minds...

You didn't even add the hospitality and tourism potentials of Owerri which can be harnessed to transform the city to the Las Vegas/Monaco/Paris of Africa.

We dare them to let the Igbos go.

In less than fifty years, the phrase African tiger will enter international lexicon...

Bla bla bla. How come you guys don't see these potentials all these while and return home? Do you need biafra to do that?
Re: Which Geo-political Zone In Nigeria Is Capable Of Becoming A Country? by rdokoye: 6:23am On May 03, 2020
Olddirtywizard:


We are mostly engaged in fantasy here so I won't waste my time and yours on back and forth. SE as constituted within Nigeria's geographical map has no access to sea. But Igbo as a group is bigger than SE, and ethnic nationality supersedes geography anyway so I do believe Igbo have access to sea.

Why do you think the multinational in SW will fold up?

Because market share will decrease the moment SW becomes a sovereign entity, and multinationals only care about profits.

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