Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nwanyiogwashi(f): 10:29pm On May 19, 2020 |
Ayekotoo: Itsekiri dialect is the same as Ijebu dialect. Ask Omawunmi, and Oristefemi No Yoruba in Delta state 5 Likes |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Ayekotoo(m): 10:32pm On May 19, 2020 |
Nwanyiogwashi: Everybody is claiming warri be it Urhobo, itsekiris and ijaws but the truth is that itsekiris are has lost out due to their tiny population It's used to be Olu of Itsekiri but was later changed to Olu of warri with the help of some Yoruba people. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:33pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: Oh very smart one
Yorubas actually identify by different names before British
The Central Yorubas were recognize as Akus
Southern and Western Yorubas were called Nago
And North Yorubas were called Oyos or Oyo oba
And Eastern Yoruba were called Olukumi
More importantly, Oh smart one, we had the ifa religion which united us also known as Odu Ifa which the Igalas don't practice. You and forgiveness should read what the Attah of Igala land had to say about IFA. You can clearly see where he said Igalas are Yorubas with Kwararafan influences. Abeg, I don't want this thread to be derailed with Yoruba issues. I think I will open another thread for this issue. Igbos & Yorubas must not project their insecurities into every single minorities thread. This thread is not for SW Yorubas & SE Igbos. |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 10:35pm On May 19, 2020 |
Nowenuse:
There is no town in Delta state that is indigenously Ilaje. If there is pls mention that town.
Ilajes are settlers in Delta state.
Olukumis are of Yoruba origin, but they are surrounded by Igbo settlements and have been heavily Igbonized. They now identify as Enuani, Anioma or Delta Igbos and not Yoruba. Infact, the time Olukumis left the west, there was nothing like pan Yoruba identity at that time.
Itsekiris have not come out to officially tell the world that they are Yorubas. Go to Warri and address Itsekiris as Yorubas (95% of them reject it). Straight out of the Arse record Oh intelligent one 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:35pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness:
Can you please show me the poll result? don't run away like you did the other day when we had Jos vs Ibadan debat. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) I didn't run away from that thread. The mods placed an automatic ban on that thread and I was banned for every post I made. I will create a thread concerning all this tomorrow. For now, let us leave this thread for Urhobos & Aniomas (Deltans). Delta state is my home away from home since I was born and bred there. |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:38pm On May 19, 2020 |
Nowenuse:
First of all, what is Yoruba?
Was Yoruba existing as an ethnic group outside Oyo 150 years ago?
Did Ijebus, Egbas, Okuns, Ekitis, Ijeshas, Ikales, Aworis e.t.c identify themselves as Yorubas in pre-colonial times? Hell no they didn't.
All the Yoruba speaking tribes were merged together under the Yoruba umbrella by the British colonial masters.
Igalas speak a Yoruba based language or Yoruboid language just like the Itsekiris (according to linguists). Google is your friend.
Igalas were neighbors to Yoruba speaking Okun people until Ebiras came and put them asunder.
Just like Okun, Igalas were a Yoruba speaking people. And shared boundary with other Yoruba speakers before Kwararafan colonization came. Can you please show me proof that Igala are Yoruba or decendants of any village or people called Yoruba? I no like too much story. Thanks. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 10:38pm On May 19, 2020 |
Nowenuse:
You and forgiveness should read what the Attah of Igala land had to say about IFA.
You can clearly see where he said Igalas are Yorubas with Kwararafan influences.
Abeg, I don't want this thread to be derailed with Yoruba issues. I think I will open another thread for this issue.
Igbos & Yorubas must not project their insecurities into every single minorities thread. This thread is not for SW Yorubas & SE Igbos. @ emboldened Please I need link to this And this thread isn't about Middle belt republic either.. And I don't recall anyone appoint you the spokesman of all minorities in Nigeria or the Ishekiri communities. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:38pm On May 19, 2020 |
Seerade029:
Don't tell me you don't understand this.
This is igala language The similarities is 70%
yii or Iko yii - This time Egba le or Iko le - That time Ojo - Day Ane - Night Ona - Tomorrow Eñini - Today Otona - Next tomorrow Iko duu - Every time Aladi - Week Aladi ki a wa - the week that is coming Ochu - Month Odo - Year Ochu ekeji - Second month Aladi yii - This Week Onale - Yesterday
Je - Eat Ta - Sell Lolu- Sleep Kwu - Die M’omi - Drink water W’ane - Fall to the ground N’eti - Listen Chi - Open Ido - Dance Jo - Burn Uko- Cough Gwu - Pound Kpa - Kill K’eli - Sing Ko - Write Ja - Fight Umi - Rest Uche - Work Gb’ane - Sweep Lo - Go Akwu - Cry Feh - Blow Y’uyo - Rejoice Cc forgiveness |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:39pm On May 19, 2020 |
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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 10:39pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness:
Can you please show me proof that Igala are Yoruba or decendants of any village or people called Yoruba? I no like too much story. Thanks. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Bro, you are wasting your time He made the comment out of hate and nothing else. |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:40pm On May 19, 2020 |
Nowenuse:
Cc forgiveness Did I dispute Igala languague is similar to Yoruba? ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Can you proof Igala are from Yoruba? Who was there forefathers? ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:42pm On May 19, 2020 |
Nowenuse:
You and forgiveness should read what the Attah of Igala land had to say about IFA.
You can clearly see where he said Igalas are Yorubas with Kwararafan influences.
Abeg, I don't want this thread to be derailed with Yoruba issues. I think I will open another thread for this issue.
Igbos & Yorubas must not project their insecurities into every single minorities thread. This thread is not for SW Yorubas & SE Igbos. Show me the link where Ata of Igala said so? I know you very well. You would have displayed proof here if you have any. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:43pm On May 19, 2020 |
Seerade029:
Are southern igalas those who reside in Anambra? If not, who are the northern igalas and southern igalas Southern Igalas are Ibaji, Olamaboro & Igalamela-Odolu LGAs. They all share boundary with Anambra, Enugu & Edo states. The remaining 5 LGAs are Northern Igala. Igala speakers in Anambra & Delta have been heavily Igbonized. Those ones are not really counted or regarded as Igalas. 1 Like |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 10:44pm On May 19, 2020 |
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Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:44pm On May 19, 2020 |
Nowenuse:
I didn't run away from that thread. The mods placed an automatic ban on that thread and I was banned for every post I made.
I will create a thread concerning all this tomorrow. For now, let us leave this thread for Urhobos & Aniomas (Deltans).
Delta state is my home away from home since I was born and bred there. Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhaha! YOU FLED BIG TIME AFTER BEATEN BLUE BLACK. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:46pm On May 19, 2020 |
Tobrasky:
Of course we are Igbos, we RESEMBLE Afonja abi Ishan to you? see this guy ooo . Ok let me make it easier for you. My question was, can any tribe you come from... boast of this preponderance of human resources, the list too plenty sef but make I indulge you on the few already listed:
Gebrel Ifeanyi Ogbechi Rainoil
Benedict Peters Aiteo Group
Dame Winifred Akpani Northwest petroleum and Gas
Prof. Steve Agwo Okecha, renowned academic, author of international repute and elder statesman
Dennis Osadebe, politician, poet, journalist and former premier of the now defunct Mid-Western Region of Nigeria, which now comprises Edo and Delta State.
Sebastine Okoh >> SSA To Deputy Senate President ( CEO Stiinos)
Zulu Sofola, the first published female Nigerian playwright and dramatist and first female Professor of Theater Arts in Africa.
Buchi Emecheta, Nigerian-born British novelist
Godwin Emefiele, the Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria.
Gift Kenneth >> CEO GSP Global Services
Ifeanyi Okowa, former Nigerian Senator and Executive Governor of Delta State
Austine "Jay-Jay" Okocha, former Captain of Super Eagles of Nigeria
Sunday Oliseh, former Captain of super Eagles of Nigeria
Stephen Okechukwu Keshi, former Super Eagles captain and Malian National Football Team Coach
Nduka Ugbade, Nigeria's former football player and the first African to lift the world cup
Demas Nwoko, prominent Sculptor of Nigeria
Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, the current Managing Director of World Bank
Elizabeth Isichei, prominent historian
Obi Prof Joseph Chike Edozien, the Asagba of Asaba
Emmanuel Ibe Kachikwu, Minister of State for Petroleum
Jim Ovia, M/D Zenith Bank
Tony Elumelu, Chairman of Heirs Holdings, the United Bank for Africa, Transcorp and founder of The Tony Elumelu Foundation
Air-Marshal Paul Dike, former Chief of Defence Staff of Nigeria NASA
Joy Ogwu, former Mangaging Director of Nigeria Institute of International Affairs
Patrick Utomi, Presidential Candidate and Founder of Lagos Business School
Phillip Asiodu, former Federal Minister
Nduka Odizor, former Lawn tennis player
Maryam Babangida, wife of General Ibrahim Babangida
Chief. Sonny Iwedike Odogwu, business mogul
Chukwurah Joseph Udeh OFR, former Comptroller-General Nigerian Immigration Service Obi senator Nosike Ikpo, former Senator of the Federal Republic
Chief Sabastine Adigwe, former MD, Afribank NIgeria PLC
Godswill Obielum, former Governorship Aspirant, Delta State
Peter Okocha, Governorship aspirant, Delta State and Business Mongul
Eddy Egwuenu, distinguished banker, co-founder Zenith Bank Dr. Newton Jibunor, famous Sahara traveller
Dr. Cyril Uchenna Gwam, diplomat, international civil servant and international environmentalist
Bonny B. N. Umeadi PhD, Technologist and Inventor of Micro/Nanosensor Devices to monitor oil and gas pipeline system
Arc. Kester Ifeadi, Chairman/CEO Contemporary Group and President Organisation For the Advancement of Anioma Culture(OFAAC)
Engr. Emma Onyekwene, MD/CEO, Coolman Oil Services
Chief G.N. Ogwude (Late), Mathematician and Academician
Colonel Joseph "Hannibal" Achuzie
Chief Epiphany Azinge, a Professor and a Senior Advocate of Nigeria. Former Director of Nigerian Institute of Advance Legal Studies.(NIALS).
I'm waiting. Aniomas have produce more successful people than Urhobos. This one cannot be argued. But Urhobos have still done fairly well in their own way. 3 Likes |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 10:46pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness:
Did I dispute Igala languague is similar to Yoruba? ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Can you proof Igala are from Yoruba? Who was there forefathers? ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Abi you see the boy He thinks he can bobo anybody here Atta never said Igala are Yorubas. He said the Yorubas and Igala might have being one single ethnic group a long time ago. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:46pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: The "very smart boy" will never give any solid proof outside some questionable studies, if he has any.
He knows everything about Nigeria simply because he came from jos and lived in among Igbos who taught him how to hate.
To him, the nonsense he wrote about conquest of Ishekiris and Igala without any documented evidence is sufficient empirical evidence.
Hence, anyone that questions him becomes dumb. He does not have any cogent evident to back up his malicious fallacy. Yes. It remains fallacy until he proves me wrong. |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:47pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: Do you read what you post
Where did Atta say he is came from Kwararafa to conquer Akoto or the nonsense you wrote
The Atta even claimed that Igala and igbos were the first People in Nigeria or something. See, abeg, I am allergic to people with low intelligence. Did I tell you that Kwararafan conquest of Igala land is in that link? Abeg, I only engage intelligent people with something upstairs. 2 Likes |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Mystiquefia: 10:49pm On May 19, 2020 |
i had always maintained that urhobo is a different tribe from isoko if u check my comments well. and thats why i used the tag urhobo vi isoko. Okay, urhobos are not related to isokos in anyway. we are a different ethnic group and dissimilar to the isoko people in all sphere of life. are u happy now? We will play this same Neutral politics with u guys when ijaws alongside isokos will be projecting their candidates as governor for delta south sometime in 2031. cheers ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Sunshineg5(m): 10:50pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness:
He does not have any cogent evident to back up his malicious fallacy. Yes. It remains fallacy until he proves me wrong. His evidence is a newspaper article where every monarch was trying to claim superiority over the other. I thought we will see solid Empirical evidence to back his claims. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:52pm On May 19, 2020 |
Nowenuse:
Itsekiris won ownership of Agbassa land but lost that of Okere-Urhobo ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Besides, can the Itsekiris go and chase the Urhobos out of Agbassa land?
Do u know Warri well? Pls list the parts of Warri urban that are Itsekiri dominated or Itsekiri controlled.
Itsekiris can never take Warri. It can never happen. The whole wide world knows Warri belongs to Itshekiris just like Bakassi belongs to Cameroun. Pray Nigeria remains one else Agbassa and all the lands taken by force by Ijaws will be taken without firing a bullet just like Bakassi was taken without a bullet but if dem want dem fit challenge world court. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:53pm On May 19, 2020 |
darfay:
I still think Urhobos are the majority by an increasing margin in Delta state. Most of the figures for urhobo population usually excludes warri south which contains the largest city in the state and the urhobo population should be around 40-50% percent there. Adding that would give them a very clear margin over the Anioma people plus the gap keeps increasing Has there been any official figures for Urhobo population before? Apart from those of the colonial era? Urhobo Indigenes of Warri south are up to half of the LGAs Indigenes, yes. But Warri south (Warri urban proper) itself does not really have much indigenes. The Indigenes are few in numbers. Do u think Agbassa & Okere-Urhobo Indigenes are significant enough to cause a significant change to Urhobo numbers? I don't think so. 1 Like |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by forgiveness: 10:53pm On May 19, 2020 |
Sunshineg5: His evidence is a newspaper article where every monarch was trying to claim superiority over the other.
I thought we will see solid Empirical evidence to back his claims. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) You got wait tire. Na Nairaland evidence em get. kkkkk ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Mystiquefia: 10:54pm On May 19, 2020 |
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olusoji fasuba- is yoruba but was born and bred in sapele. he identified with sapele people than his yoruba people
ogbemudia is an edo man but related to urhobos
RMD ALibaba patrick aziza are urhobos |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by darfay: 10:54pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness:
The whole of Warri belongs to Itshekiri. The case has been won in court. Sapele was won by Uhrobo. If don born you well enter warri talk this trash ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 3 Likes |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:55pm On May 19, 2020 |
forgiveness:
The whole wide world knows Warri belongs to Itshekiris just like Bakassi belongs to Cameroun.
Pray Nigeria remains one else Agbassa and all the lands taken by force by Ijaws will be taken without firing a bullet just like Bakassi was taken without a bullet but if dem want dem fit challenge world court. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) You are just being a clown right now. I am not in the mood for trolling. Bye. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:56pm On May 19, 2020 |
SocialJustice: You're actually an ignorant tribal bigot.
The epicentre of Warri, Effurun is it an Urhobo or Ijaw or itsekiri community? Is Udu an itsekiri community?
The rest of Warri is Warri South and North, Warri southwest is somewhere else.
I personally do not care of the Isokos because they are inconsequential in the scope of things. I don't even know where you guys are hiding in the Delta South senatorial District.
You sound like us, eat like us, dress like us, even the ANIOMAs are more distinct from Igbo than Isokos are from Urhobo.
It is this funny behaviour that led to that Isoko agitator paying the ultimate price with no Urhobo intervention. With Ijaw and Itsekiri being mostly united, see what Ekpemupolo and Emami were able to achieve.
Nobody knows everything completely, even when I'm wrong I take correction here. Say what you have to say and don't make it sound like there's one thing special about the Isokos.
Being loud is not even the problem urhobo has, it is disunity, disunity started by Isokos and Okpes and is spreading through Urhobo with every kingdom wanting to act independent of the other whereas we all share one ancestral link. I don't know where Isokos are from though, don't care. Where are you from if I may ask pls. |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by darfay: 10:58pm On May 19, 2020 |
Ayekotoo:
It's used to be Olu of Itsekiri but was later changed to Olu of warri with the help of some Yoruba people. No Yoruba in Delta state 1 Like |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Ayekotoo(m): 10:58pm On May 19, 2020 |
Nwanyiogwashi: No Yoruba in Delta state You can never understand Itsekiri despite being lumped up in the same state but an Ijebu person would understand the dialect. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Nowenuse: 10:59pm On May 19, 2020 |
darfay:
Guy leave us alone na
Go and face your oyo state where your nature resources includes ewedu mining, skull mining among others. Igbos in Lagos State have been over your slum settlements and building big houss Seriously, this Sunshineg5 of a person just came to destroy this nice thread created by Mystiquefia with his Yoruba insecurities. He should have just been ignored from the beginning. 3 Likes |
Re: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by Mystiquefia: 11:01pm On May 19, 2020 |
darfay:
I still think Urhobos are the majority by an increasing margin in Delta state. Most of the figures for urhobo population usually excludes warri south which contains the largest city in the state and the urhobo population should be around 40-50% percent there. Adding that would give them a very clear margin over the Anioma people plus the gap keeps increasing There are some miniority urhobo communities in patani and bomadi local governments even. |