Ayekotoo:
Itsekiri dialect is the same as Ijebu dialect. Ask Omawunmi, and Oristefemi

No Yoruba in Delta state

Nwanyiogwashi:
Everybody is claiming warri be it Urhobo, itsekiris and ijaws but the truth is that itsekiris are has lost out due to their tiny population

It's used to be Olu of Itsekiri but was later changed to Olu of warri with the help of some Yoruba people.

Sunshineg5:
Oh very smart one

Yorubas actually identify by different names before British

The Central Yorubas were recognize as Akus

Southern and Western Yorubas were called Nago

And North Yorubas were called Oyos or Oyo oba

And Eastern Yoruba were called Olukumi

More importantly, Oh smart one, we had the ifa religion which united us also known as Odu Ifa which the Igalas don't practice.

You and forgiveness should read what the Attah of Igala land had to say about IFA.

You can clearly see where he said Igalas are Yorubas with Kwararafan influences.

Abeg, I don't want this thread to be derailed with Yoruba issues.
I think I will open another thread for this issue.

Igbos & Yorubas must not project their insecurities into every single minorities thread. This thread is not for SW Yorubas & SE Igbos.

Nowenuse:


There is no town in Delta state that is indigenously Ilaje. If there is pls mention that town.

Ilajes are settlers in Delta state.

Olukumis are of Yoruba origin, but they are surrounded by Igbo settlements and have been heavily Igbonized. They now identify as Enuani, Anioma or Delta Igbos and not Yoruba.
Infact, the time Olukumis left the west, there was nothing like pan Yoruba identity at that time.

Itsekiris have not come out to officially tell the world that they are Yorubas.
Go to Warri and address Itsekiris as Yorubas (95% of them reject it).

Straight out of the Arse record

Oh intelligent one

forgiveness:


Can you please show me the poll result? don't run away like you did the other day when we had Jos vs Ibadan debat.

I didn't run away from that thread.
The mods placed an automatic ban on that thread and I was banned for every post I made.

I will create a thread concerning all this tomorrow. For now, let us leave this thread for Urhobos & Aniomas (Deltans).

Delta state is my home away from home since I was born and bred there.

Nowenuse:


First of all, what is Yoruba?

Was Yoruba existing as an ethnic group outside Oyo 150 years ago?

Did Ijebus, Egbas, Okuns, Ekitis, Ijeshas, Ikales, Aworis e.t.c identify themselves as Yorubas in pre-colonial times? Hell no they didn't.

All the Yoruba speaking tribes were merged together under the Yoruba umbrella by the British colonial masters.


Igalas speak a Yoruba based language or Yoruboid language just like the Itsekiris (according to linguists). Google is your friend.

Igalas were neighbors to Yoruba speaking Okun people until Ebiras came and put them asunder.

Just like Okun, Igalas were a Yoruba speaking people. And shared boundary with other Yoruba speakers before Kwararafan colonization came.

Can you please show me proof that Igala are Yoruba or decendants of any village or people called Yoruba? I no like too much story. Thanks.

Nowenuse:


You and forgiveness should read what the Attah of Igala land had to say about IFA.

You can clearly see where he said Igalas are Yorubas with Kwararafan influences.

Abeg, I don't want this thread to be derailed with Yoruba issues.
I think I will open another thread for this issue.

Igbos & Yorubas must not project their insecurities into every single minorities thread. This thread is not for SW Yorubas & SE Igbos.

@ emboldened

Please I need link to this

And this thread isn't about Middle belt republic either..

And I don't recall anyone appoint you the spokesman of all minorities in Nigeria or the Ishekiri communities.

Seerade029:

Don't tell me you don't understand this.

This is igala language
The similarities is 70%

yii or Iko yii - This time
Egba le or Iko le - That time
Ojo - Day
Ane - Night
Ona - Tomorrow
Eñini - Today
Otona - Next tomorrow
Iko duu - Every time
Aladi - Week
Aladi ki a wa - the week that is coming
Ochu - Month
Odo - Year
Ochu ekeji - Second month
Aladi yii - This Week
Onale - Yesterday



Je - Eat
Ta - Sell
Lolu- Sleep
Kwu - Die
M’omi - Drink water
W’ane - Fall to the ground
N’eti - Listen
Chi - Open
Ido - Dance
Jo - Burn
Uko- Cough
Gwu - Pound
Kpa - Kill
K’eli - Sing
Ko - Write
Ja - Fight
Umi - Rest
Uche - Work
Gb’ane - Sweep
Lo - Go
Akwu - Cry
Feh - Blow
Y’uyo - Rejoice

Cc forgiveness

Sunshineg5:
@ emboldened

Please I need link to this

And this thread isn't about Middle belt republic either..

And I don't recall anyone appoint you the spokesman of all minorities in Nigeria or the Ishekiri communities.

Sorry I forgot to post it.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/05/igbo-yoruba-affinity-ifa-oracle-is-the-connecting-link-of-original-nigerians-attah-of-igala/amp/

Cc forgiveness

forgiveness:


Can you please show me proof that Igala are Yoruba or decendants of any village or people called Yoruba? I no like too much story. Thanks.

Bro, you are wasting your time

He made the comment out of hate and nothing else.

Nowenuse:


Cc forgiveness

Did I dispute Igala languague is similar to Yoruba?

Can you proof Igala are from Yoruba? Who was there forefathers?

Nowenuse:


You and forgiveness should read what the Attah of Igala land had to say about IFA.

You can clearly see where he said Igalas are Yorubas with Kwararafan influences.

Abeg, I don't want this thread to be derailed with Yoruba issues.
I think I will open another thread for this issue.

Igbos & Yorubas must not project their insecurities into every single minorities thread. This thread is not for SW Yorubas & SE Igbos.

Show me the link where Ata of Igala said so? I know you very well. You would have displayed proof here if you have any.

Seerade029:


Are southern igalas those who reside in Anambra?
If not, who are the northern igalas and southern igalas

Southern Igalas are Ibaji, Olamaboro & Igalamela-Odolu LGAs. They all share boundary with Anambra, Enugu & Edo states.
The remaining 5 LGAs are Northern Igala.

Igala speakers in Anambra & Delta have been heavily Igbonized. Those ones are not really counted or regarded as Igalas.

Nowenuse:

Sorry I forgot to post it.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/05/igbo-yoruba-affinity-ifa-oracle-is-the-connecting-link-of-original-nigerians-attah-of-igala/amp/

Cc forgiveness

Do you read what you posted?

Where did Atta say he came from Kwararafa to conquer Akoto or the nonsense you wrote earlier?

The Atta even claimed that Igala and igbos were the first People in Nigeria or something like that.

Nowenuse:


I didn't run away from that thread.
The mods placed an automatic ban on that thread and I was banned for every post I made.

I will create a thread concerning all this tomorrow. For now, let us leave this thread for Urhobos & Aniomas (Deltans).

Delta state is my home away from home since I was born and bred there.

Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhaha! YOU FLED BIG TIME AFTER BEATEN BLUE BLACK.

Tobrasky:

Of course we are Igbos, we RESEMBLE Afonja abi Ishan to you? see this guy ooo . Ok let me make it easier for you. My question was, can any tribe you come from... boast of this preponderance of human resources, the list too plenty sef but make I indulge you on the few already listed:

Gebrel Ifeanyi Ogbechi Rainoil

Benedict Peters Aiteo Group

Dame Winifred Akpani Northwest petroleum and Gas

Prof. Steve Agwo Okecha, renowned academic, author of international repute and elder statesman

Dennis Osadebe, politician, poet, journalist and former premier of the now defunct Mid-Western Region of Nigeria, which now comprises Edo and Delta State.

Sebastine Okoh >> SSA To Deputy Senate President ( CEO Stiinos)

Zulu Sofola, the first published female Nigerian playwright and dramatist and first female
Professor of Theater Arts in Africa.

Buchi Emecheta, Nigerian-born British novelist

Godwin Emefiele, the Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria.

Gift Kenneth >> CEO GSP Global Services

Ifeanyi Okowa, former Nigerian Senator and Executive Governor of Delta State

Austine "Jay-Jay" Okocha, former Captain of Super Eagles of Nigeria

Sunday Oliseh, former Captain of super Eagles of Nigeria

Stephen Okechukwu Keshi, former Super Eagles captain and Malian National Football Team Coach

Nduka Ugbade, Nigeria's former football player and the first African to lift the world cup

Demas Nwoko, prominent Sculptor of Nigeria

Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, the current Managing Director of World Bank

Elizabeth Isichei, prominent historian

Obi Prof Joseph Chike Edozien, the Asagba of Asaba

Emmanuel Ibe Kachikwu, Minister of State for Petroleum

Jim Ovia, M/D Zenith Bank

Tony Elumelu, Chairman of Heirs Holdings, the United Bank for Africa, Transcorp and founder of The Tony Elumelu Foundation

Air-Marshal Paul Dike, former Chief of Defence Staff of Nigeria NASA

Joy Ogwu, former Mangaging Director of Nigeria Institute of International Affairs

Patrick Utomi, Presidential Candidate and Founder of Lagos Business School

Phillip Asiodu, former Federal Minister

Nduka Odizor, former Lawn tennis player

Maryam Babangida, wife of General Ibrahim Babangida

Chief. Sonny Iwedike Odogwu, business mogul

Chukwurah Joseph Udeh OFR, former Comptroller-General Nigerian Immigration Service
Obi senator Nosike Ikpo, former Senator of the Federal Republic

Chief Sabastine Adigwe, former MD, Afribank NIgeria PLC

Godswill Obielum, former Governorship Aspirant, Delta State

Peter Okocha, Governorship aspirant, Delta State and Business Mongul

Eddy Egwuenu, distinguished banker, co-founder Zenith Bank
Dr. Newton Jibunor, famous Sahara traveller

Dr. Cyril Uchenna Gwam, diplomat, international civil servant and international environmentalist

Bonny B. N. Umeadi PhD, Technologist and Inventor of Micro/Nanosensor Devices to monitor oil and gas pipeline system

Arc. Kester Ifeadi, Chairman/CEO Contemporary Group and President Organisation For the Advancement of Anioma Culture(OFAAC)

Engr. Emma Onyekwene, MD/CEO, Coolman Oil Services

Chief G.N. Ogwude (Late), Mathematician and Academician

Colonel Joseph "Hannibal" Achuzie

Chief Epiphany Azinge, a Professor and a Senior Advocate of Nigeria. Former Director of Nigerian Institute of Advance Legal Studies.(NIALS).

I'm waiting.

Aniomas have produce more successful people than Urhobos. This one cannot be argued.

But Urhobos have still done fairly well in their own way.

forgiveness:


Did I dispute Igala languague is similar to Yoruba?

Can you proof Igala are from Yoruba? Who was there forefathers?

Abi you see the boy

He thinks he can bobo anybody here

Atta never said Igala are Yorubas.

He said the Yorubas and Igala might have being one single ethnic group a long time ago.

Sunshineg5:
The "very smart boy" will never give any solid proof outside some questionable studies, if he has any.

He knows everything about Nigeria simply because he came from jos and lived in among Igbos who taught him how to hate.

To him, the nonsense he wrote about conquest of Ishekiris and Igala without any documented evidence is sufficient empirical evidence.

Hence, anyone that questions him becomes dumb.

He does not have any cogent evident to back up his malicious fallacy. Yes. It remains fallacy until he proves me wrong.

Sunshineg5:
Do you read what you post

Where did Atta say he is came from Kwararafa to conquer Akoto or the nonsense you wrote

The Atta even claimed that Igala and igbos were the first People in Nigeria or something.

See, abeg, I am allergic to people with low intelligence.
Did I tell you that Kwararafan conquest of Igala land is in that link?

Abeg, I only engage intelligent people with something upstairs.

i had always maintained that urhobo is a different tribe from isoko if u check my comments well. and thats why i used the tag urhobo vi isoko.

Okay, urhobos are not related to isokos in anyway. we are a different ethnic group and dissimilar to the isoko people in all sphere of life. are u happy now?


We will play this same Neutral politics with u guys when ijaws alongside isokos will be projecting their candidates as governor for delta south sometime in 2031.
cheers

forgiveness:


He does not have any cogent evident to back up his malicious fallacy. Yes. It remains fallacy until he proves me wrong.

His evidence is a newspaper article where every monarch was trying to claim superiority over the other.

I thought we will see solid Empirical evidence to back his claims.

Nowenuse:


Itsekiris won ownership of Agbassa land but lost that of Okere-Urhobo

Besides, can the Itsekiris go and chase the Urhobos out of Agbassa land?

Do u know Warri well? Pls list the parts of Warri urban that are Itsekiri dominated or Itsekiri controlled.

Itsekiris can never take Warri. It can never happen.

The whole wide world knows Warri belongs to Itshekiris just like Bakassi belongs to Cameroun.

Pray Nigeria remains one else Agbassa and all the lands taken by force by Ijaws will be taken without firing a bullet just like Bakassi was taken without a bullet but if dem want dem fit challenge world court.

darfay:


I still think Urhobos are the majority by an increasing margin in Delta state. Most of the figures for urhobo population usually excludes warri south which contains the largest city in the state and the urhobo population should be around 40-50% percent there. Adding that would give them a very clear margin over the Anioma people plus the gap keeps increasing

Has there been any official figures for Urhobo population before? Apart from those of the colonial era?

Urhobo Indigenes of Warri south are up to half of the LGAs Indigenes, yes. But Warri south (Warri urban proper) itself does not really have much indigenes. The Indigenes are few in numbers.
Do u think Agbassa & Okere-Urhobo Indigenes are significant enough to cause a significant change to Urhobo numbers? I don't think so.

Sunshineg5:
His evidence is a newspaper article where every monarch was trying to claim superiority over the other.

I thought we will see solid Empirical evidence to back his claims.

You got wait tire. Na Nairaland evidence em get. kkkkk

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olusoji fasuba- is yoruba but was born and bred in sapele. he identified with sapele people than his yoruba people

ogbemudia is an edo man but related to urhobos

RMD
ALibaba
patrick aziza
are urhobos

forgiveness:


The whole of Warri belongs to Itshekiri. The case has been won in court. Sapele was won by Uhrobo.

If don born you well enter warri talk this trash

forgiveness:


The whole wide world knows Warri belongs to Itshekiris just like Bakassi belongs to Cameroun.

Pray Nigeria remains one else Agbassa and all the lands taken by force by Ijaws will be taken without firing a bullet just like Bakassi was taken without a bullet but if dem want dem fit challenge world court.

You are just being a clown right now.
I am not in the mood for trolling. Bye.

SocialJustice:
You're actually an ignorant tribal bigot.

The epicentre of Warri, Effurun is it an Urhobo or Ijaw or itsekiri community? Is Udu an itsekiri community?

The rest of Warri is Warri South and North, Warri southwest is somewhere else.

I personally do not care of the Isokos because they are inconsequential in the scope of things. I don't even know where you guys are hiding in the Delta South senatorial District.

You sound like us, eat like us, dress like us, even the ANIOMAs are more distinct from Igbo than Isokos are from Urhobo.

It is this funny behaviour that led to that Isoko agitator paying the ultimate price with no Urhobo intervention. With Ijaw and Itsekiri being mostly united, see what Ekpemupolo and Emami were able to achieve.

Nobody knows everything completely, even when I'm wrong I take correction here. Say what you have to say and don't make it sound like there's one thing special about the Isokos.

Being loud is not even the problem urhobo has, it is disunity, disunity started by Isokos and Okpes and is spreading through Urhobo with every kingdom wanting to act independent of the other whereas we all share one ancestral link. I don't know where Isokos are from though, don't care.

Where are you from if I may ask pls.

Ayekotoo:


It's used to be Olu of Itsekiri but was later changed to Olu of warri with the help of some Yoruba people.

No Yoruba in Delta state

Nwanyiogwashi:
No Yoruba in Delta state

You can never understand Itsekiri despite being lumped up in the same state but an Ijebu person would understand the dialect.

darfay:



Guy leave us alone na

Go and face your oyo state where your nature resources includes ewedu mining, skull mining among others. Igbos in Lagos State have been over your slum settlements and building big houss

Seriously, this Sunshineg5 of a person just came to destroy this nice thread created by Mystiquefia with his Yoruba insecurities.

He should have just been ignored from the beginning.

darfay:


I still think Urhobos are the majority by an increasing margin in Delta state. Most of the figures for urhobo population usually excludes warri south which contains the largest city in the state and the urhobo population should be around 40-50% percent there. Adding that would give them a very clear margin over the Anioma people plus the gap keeps increasing

There are some miniority urhobo communities in patani and bomadi local governments even.