n3xt:


Far, far cheaper.

Let’s compare Apple with Apple now.

Let’s assume we want to cover a room (3.6m x 3.6m) plain design with ceiling rose at the center.

Using POP
POP - N4,000/sqm (material and labour)
3.6 x 3.6 x N4000 = N51,840

__________
Using Plasterboard
Each board is 3.6sqm
Total coverage area is 12.96sqm

That means we need 3.6 boards to cover the room.
Call any supplier online and ask how much is a plasterboard of 3.6m x 3.6m x 12mm

N6,000 x 3.6 boards = N21,600

Buy 1 bag of POP plaster for cornices, screeding and installation - N5,000

Let’s make it pro!
Buy angle, beed and screw etc for the installation. Each is sold at N450
Buy 20 pcs = N9,000

Plasterboard installation is done 400 per sqm. Multiply by 12.96sqm = N5,200

Screeding is done shikini naira pere. N3,000


So pros in the house, what have I missed out? Please kindly add it.

Let’s stop scaring people. Plasterboard is cheaper than N4,000/sqm POP

I just completed over 1,000sqm installation so I know what I’m talking about.


The most interesting part is this can be achieved in one day once your materials are ready.


Edit
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I noticed I omitted the cost of casting the cornice and other small POP installation materials. Let’s add N7,000

It’s still not expensive than regular POP.

Interesting

Do you have any image of the once you installed recently?

davodyguy:

Interesting

Do you have any image of the once you installed recently?

Exactly my thought.
@ n3xt: Kindly share images let's see.

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davodyguy:

Interesting

Do you have any image of the once you installed recently?

No! I no longer keep construction pictures like before.

n3xt:


No! I no longer keep construction pictures like before.

But it's something you do and also install for people?

Also, based on the calculation you did, it came up to about ₦44,500 to fix a 12.96 and ₦52,000 for POP

davodyguy:

But it's something you do and also install for people?

Also, based on the calculation you did, it came up to about ₦44,500 to fix a 12.96 and ₦52,000 for POP

It is something I do use on my projects. I’ll be using it on an ongoing project in couple of week.

n3xt:


Far, far cheaper.

Let’s compare Apple with Apple now.

Let’s assume we want to cover a room (3.6m x 3.6m) plain design with ceiling rose at the center.

Using POP
POP - N4,000/sqm (material and labour)
3.6 x 3.6 x N4000 = N51,840

__________
Using Plasterboard
Each board is 3.6sqm
Total coverage area is 12.96sqm

That means we need 3.6 boards to cover the room.
Call any supplier online and ask how much is a plasterboard of 3.6m x 3.6m x 12mm

N6,000 x 3.6 boards = N21,600

Buy 1 bag of POP plaster for cornices, screeding and installation - N5,000

Let’s make it pro!
Buy angle, beed and screw etc for the installation. Each is sold at N450
Buy 20 pcs = N9,000

Plasterboard installation is done 400 per sqm. Multiply by 12.96sqm = N5,200

Screeding is done shikini naira pere. N3,000


So pros in the house, what have I missed out? Please kindly add it.

Let’s stop scaring people. Plasterboard is cheaper than N4,000/sqm POP

I just completed over 1,000sqm installation so I know what I’m talking about.


The most interesting part is this can be achieved in one day once your materials are ready.


Edit
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I noticed I omitted the cost of casting the cornice and other small POP installation materials. Let’s add N7,000

It’s still not expensive than regular POP.

Impressive!!! I love it when things are expressed in numbers. We may have a deal on this job once we get to that stage.

Plasterboards brings out the finest details in ceiling. Far neater and detailed when compared to POP.

Thanks for this analysis.

twinskenny:


It’s not cheaper at all... quite expensive sir @ dominionng can through more light into this

That's where the confusion is. Dominionng said it is more expensive compare to POP and n3xt said it is cheaper. Both are experienced builders.

Focusmind:


Impressive!!! I love it when things are expressed in numbers. We may have a deal on this job once we get to that stage.

Plasterboards brings out the finest details in ceiling. Far neater and detailed when compared to POP.

Thanks for this analysis.

Smiles.

I’m not doing this to cut a deal. We just need to educate ourselves once a while.

I can give you the details of the company selling the product but I won’t do that now. Just go out there and look for reputable importers.

Things become unnecessarily expensive in Nigeria when there are too many middlemen.

I deal directly with suppliers who provide me with installers and offer better deals.

davodyguy:

But it's something you do and also install for people?

Also, based on the calculation you did, it came up to about ₦44,500 to fix a 12.96 and ₦52,000 for POP

Let me attempt to tidy things up according to how plasterboard is installed in the UK.

We assume the size of the room is 6x6=36 sqm.

The attached picture is the final product. It's a plain white ceiling with cornice. So let's calculate.

POP is N4000 per square meter including labour.

So 4000x36 =N=144,000

Plasterboard:
One plasterboard is 3.6sqm
So 36÷3.6= 10.

So you need 10 numbers of plasterboard for the room.

One plasterboard cost =N=6,000

6,000×10 =N60,000

Cornice is N2,000 per meter. You will need 24 meters cornice for the room.

So 2,000×24= N48,000

Screws and putty N10,000

Total plasterboard:
60,000+48,000+10,000= N118,000

This is without labour and without ceiling rose and without artistic design of POP.

When you add the above and wastage and cost of screeding, POP is cheaper unless my prices are wrong or mistake in my calculations.

To install just screw the plasterboard to the noggin or joist as we call it in the UK and just putty or screed over the screw and spaces between each board and paint.

forandy:
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Do you have pictures of your recent projects?

n3xt:


It is something I do use on my projects. I’ll be using it on an ongoing project in couple of week.

Which state are you currently working at the moment?

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@n3xt. Check the size of the board very well the price is far more than 6000 per 1.2*3.6.12mm

Check jiji and jibowu mkt fir the price.

1.2*2.4*12mm is around 5500-6000
1.2*3*12mm is around 6700-7000

1.2*3.6*12mm is around 8000-9000

There are many brands.

My brothers and sisters. I have been following the cost comparison between the regular POP and the Plasterboard for ceiling works.
Theory is good but practical is a different thing entirely.
Please do your due deligence and do not contract anyone until you have done your verifications. We do not need anyone coming back here with story that touches.
We have many artisan that does the regular POP here reputably but few people with plasterboard work. I personally beleive if the plasterboard ceilings is cheaper, I am sure most of us would have been using it more. Please make sure you are not following packagings. So, do your due deligence about the cost before you engage in it. Just a warning from experience.
I am not recommending between regular POP and Plasterboard ceiling neither am I recommending any artisan or contractor; just do your personal due deligence before you part with your hard earned money.
Please beware of packagings, as we call it here.
If you experiment with Plasterboard, please come back here and tell us the pros and the cons. Thanks.

Hajji M.

Badgers14:



Which state are you currently working at the moment?

Ibadan. Lagos. Ijebu.

The project where I’m using the boards in few weeks is in Ibadan.

diordaves:

Let me attempt to tidy things up according to how plasterboard is installed in the UK.

We assume the size of the room is 6x6=36 sqm.

The attached picture is the final product. It's a plain white ceiling with cornice. So let's calculate.

POP is N4000 per square meter including labour.

So 4000x36 =N=144,000

Plasterboard:
One plasterboard is 3.6sqm
So 36÷3.6= 10.

So you need 10 numbers of plasterboard for the room.

One plasterboard cost =N=6,000

6,000×10 =N60,000

Cornice is N2,000 per meter. You will need 24 meters cornice for the room.

So 2,000×24= N48,000

Screws and putty N10,000

Total plasterboard:
60,000+48,000+10,000= N118,000

This is without labour and without ceiling rose and without artistic design of POP.

When you add the above and wastage and cost of screeding, POP is cheaper unless my prices are wrong or mistake in my calculations.

To install just screw the plasterboard to the noggin or joist as we call it in the UK and just putty or screed over the screw and spaces between each board and paint.

Very good comparison but I didn't see the cost of cornice for regular POP. Thanks.

Hajji M.

rotecch77:
@n3xt. Check the size of the board very well the price is far more than 6000 per 1.2*3.6.12mm

Check jiji and jibowu mkt fir the price.

1.2*2.4*12mm is around 5500-6000
1.2*3*12mm is around 6700-7000

1.2*3.6*12mm is around 8000-9000

There are many brands.

I buy from Great Omegason in Mushin and their price as at this evening is 6,000 for a 1.2m x 3m x 12mm board

n3xt:


Wow

I really don’t know it’s more expensive. My conclusion is based on the following:

1. It saves time than regular POP.

2. You don’t mess up your clients’ property with POP stains. I hate those things.

3. It’s easier to estimate the quantity you need. Even a layman can do that.

4. It’s the industry standard. I’ve search far and wide and I’ve not seen oyinbo man doing ceiling (POP) the way we do it here in Naija. Maybe it’s innovation sha.

5. A single board which covers 3.6m even at N10,000/board (board sells lesser than this) is still cheaper than N4,000/m2 POP. I know the installation, accessories and screeding part is there BUT that’s nothing when compared to the huge savings on time, quality and the stress it took away.

Now you know boss. I agree with the fact that using plasterboard to create designed ceilings is faster and less messier compared to POP precast, but cheaper is pure fallacy, except of course if you want your plasterboard to be drilled to your already installed noggin to create a plain flat ceiling.

I'm an advocate of Plasterboard over POP precast for designed ceiling for clients who can afford it, and in over a decade, I've done both for a lot of clients here, biko don't confuse these people.

Plasterboard for ceilings is in two ways

1. Plasterboard with grids: You use the galvanised tracks and studs to create the design carcass, then you clad it with plasterboard. This same system is used not only for ceilings, but also for partitions and general dry constructions. This isn't cheap! Least @ 7k/sqm

2. Plasterboard without grid: This is the most common in Nigeria. Same thing with wet ceiling(POP precast ceiling), the only difference is that plasterboard replaces ONLY the precast pop boards.

Cost: N7,000 per board covers 3.6sqm, when a bag of POP cement will conveniently produce same sqm of POP boards.

The installation process remains the same. Same materials needed. Plaster, mesh, iron range and all... This least @ 6k/sqm

Dominionng:


Now you know boss. I agree with the fact that using plasterboard to create designed ceilings is faster and less messier compared to POP precast, but cheaper is pure fallacy, except of course if you want your plasterboard to be drilled to your already installed noggin to create a plain flat ceiling.

I'm an advocate of Plasterboard over POP precast for designed ceiling for clients who can afford it, and in over a decade, I've done both for a lot of clients here, biko don't confuse these people.

Plasterboard for ceilings is in two ways

1. Plasterboard with grids: You use the galvanised tracks and studs to create the design carcass, then you clad it with plasterboard. This same system is used not only for ceilings, but also for partitions and general dry constructions. This isn't cheap! Least @ 7k/sqm

2. Plasterboard without grid: This is the most common in Nigeria. Same thing with wet ceiling(POP precast ceiling), the only difference is that plasterboard replaces ONLY the precast pop boards.

Cost: N7,000 per board covers 3.6sqm, when a bag of POP cement will conveniently produce same sqm of POP boards.

The installation process remains the same. Same materials needed. Plaster, mesh, iron range and all... This least @ 6k/sqm

Thanks bro. You’ve made your point.

I agree a bag of POP cement will produce the same sqm of POP boards but what I don’t understand is why I should pay someone to make it for me when I can actually purchase ready-made plasterboard and get the job done immediately.

Plasterboard or precast POP ceilings? Please kindly do your due diligence.

I’ll chose plasterboard anyday anytime over precast POP for all its worth and the huge savings.

Thanks once again for the intellectual discussion.

Wow, this plasterboard vs POP conversation is really getting interesting... the clash of the titans

As a Nairaland trained expert, my weight no reach this one.


But I still believe there are other cheaper alternatives to POP but most suppliers mission is to "ridiculously " make materials expensive instead of working on making the prices lower and more affordable.

mufutau55:


Very good comparison but I didn't see the cost of cornice for regular POP. Thanks.

Hajji M.

Cornice is included in the price if your preferred design incorporates cornicing. N4000/sqm is all in all to deliver your choice design. Nothing more, nothing less. POP is cheaper by about 35%. I've done the numbers.

diordaves:

Cornice is included in the price if your preferred design incorporates cornicing. N4000/sqm is all in all to deliver your choice design. Nothing more, nothing less. POP is cheaper by about 35%. I've done the numbers.

@Diordaves, you are the Man. Thanks for the detail cost analysis as usual.

Hajji M.

diordaves:


Cornice is included in the price if your preferred design incorporates cornicing. N4000/sqm is all in all to deliver your choice design. Nothing more, nothing less. POP is cheaper by about 35%. I've done the numbers.

This is with the assumption that I’ll get a metre of cornice for N2,000. Nay!

I wish you know the number of cornices that can be produced in a bag of POP cement.

Why should I buy 1 metre of cornice 2k when the whole board, cornice and installation is 4k. Cornice is way cheaper bro!

Bros, this is really a number game

Everything counts.

kingzsoul:

It's bungalow that I want on it
The soil is firm
Definitely there are trees there which they've cleared.
I want a high foundation
I want a step up dinning

Nice, I suppose it will have parapet also.(concrete fascia)

Budget between #908,000 & #1m (if is not a low cost project) excluding the Engr's or contractor's fees


Dubemcapital

omanzo02:

The bolded has always baffled me....a duplex of 3 bedroom cost at least ₦125,000,000 but u will never find POP or something exaggerated , just simple ceiling edge sills and lightings, I mostly see pop in office or hotels lobbies, they just keep it simple and elegant, and I have been in countries like Turkey that has very modern architecture and u rarely find POPs. Sometimes we can exaggerate.

Nigerians don't put cost into consideration, they just go with the crowd.... Western world don't worry themselves with POP, Parapet, wall edges, pillars, tiling kitchen from floor to ceiling and so many addons that makes building a house more expensive. They just make it simple and detailed and keeping the surrounding beautiful and clean.

EgunMogaji2:


We use sheetrock in the USA. The mess that Naija POP makes will never be acceptable there.

For my current build I will not do the traditional POP due to the mess. Unless they can manufacture the panels offsite. It’s crazy messy.

Very correct sir. Plasterboard, cement board and sidings are called sheetrock. Beautiful materials to work with. Creating this with them here in Lagos

God bless you sir, agba o ni tan lorile

mufutau55:
My brothers and sisters. I have been following the cost comparison between the regular POP and the Plasterboard for ceiling works.
Theory is good but practical is a different thing entirely.
Please do your due deligence and do not contract anyone until you have done your verifications. We do not need anyone coming back here with story that touches.
We have many artisan that does the regular POP here reputably but few people with plasterboard work. I personally beleive if the plasterboard ceilings is cheaper, I am sure most of us would have been using it more. Please make sure you are not following packagings. So, do your due deligence about the cost before you engage in it. Just a warning from experience.
I am not recommending between regular POP and Plasterboard ceiling neither am I recommending any artisan or contractor; just do your personal due deligence before you part with your money.
Please beware of packagings, as we call it here.
If you experiment with Plasterboard, please come back here and tell us the pros and the cons. Thanks.

Hajji M.

Pls where in Ibadan, I will love to visit while the plasterboard is ongoing, I visit Ibadan frequently

n3xt:


Ibadan. Lagos. Ijebu.

The project where I’m using the boards in few weeks is in Ibadan.

Me thinks modern POP will certainly come and go, but dry plasterboard will remain depending on innovations. Am still reading and making references while waiting to be convinced that it's a suitable, more durable, and friendly substitute for POP. Cheaper or not.

Oliran:

I am sure the person ticked all what is required to get approval for you. However it is done in stages.
From your description I am guessing it's a bungalow, I'll list the stages below.

Stage 1:
Survey
Architectural drawings

The survey is charted to be sure your land is free of Government acquisition, your drawing is vetted and ensure comply with the required setback,airspaces etc.

Stage 2:
Someone from the district office will go for site visit to be sure of the size of land and confirm you've not started building if it is a proposed drawing.

Stage3:
Calculations are done using your architectural drawings to calculate assessment, the amount is depending on the size of the building (Length,Breadth and Height), the rate also depends on the location, Lekki fee is not same as Ikorodu fee. Each LGA is categorized into Low, Medium and High density.

Stage4:

After payment is done, the receipt for payment, deed of Assignment for the land, Affidavit with stamp duty and your passports with your drawings is used to open a file for you, a registration number will be issued.
The file is then forwarded to LIRS

Last Stage is the tax clearance stage.


I hope this helps.

What if one has started building?

n3xt:


Will anyone use a precast (traditional) POP in a mixed-use development? The answer is NO!

By mixed-use, I mean a place like Shoprite or Four Point Sheraton for instance.

No one will use your wet hanging plasterboard in places like this, what we use is dry construction(Plasterboard with grid). Cost of wish almost double that of POP precast.