Dennis3D:


This is not a spiral staircase

EgunMogaji2:


Do you have a sample of a staircase that you did that had a landing?

Thanks.

EgunMogaji2:


It is absolutely a profession.

Dennis3D:


Its my design and that's what the client want.
Making him request for such in his saloon to.

Pictures below shows the main building and the saloon staircase.

Note: There are different types and patterns of staircase designs. So clients have the options of the ones they prefer...

Dennis3D:


So many. Take your time and visit my profile to it in numerous projects carried out. Thank you

true2home:
Honestly, this is a Design issue. The stairs is never suppose to be like that. We do this in Nigeria to conserve space because we are trying to get the impossible into possible. if you had enough space, you will get a better result with proper landing. That will fail inspector all day long!

But like a GM in Lands once told me: "Its due to Nigerian Constraints American Man" lmao

EgunMogaji2:


It’s okay I’ll pass.

But if you run across a picture of a landing that you did please consider sharing it.

Cheers.

true2home:
Honestly, this is a Design issue. The stairs is never suppose to be like that. We do this in Nigeria to conserve space because we are trying to get the impossible into possible. if you had enough space, you will get a better result with proper landing. That will fail inspector all day long!

But like a GM in Lands once told me: "Its due to Nigerian Constraints American Man" lmao

Abolarin91:
I didn't said it is spiral. Just that place(landing) that you stepped up

boay:
The debate/argument about superiority or who leads a construction team is not really necessary. It all depends on the peculiarity of the situation. I have seen construction companies whose teams are led by QS, some Architect and some builders.


However, the architect is usually the prime consultant in most project and do lead the project team more. From experience, For government projects, the Architect usually leads the project consultants (QS, M and E Engr, Structural Engr, etc) But that is not about superiority. When you have 2 or more persons, one must take leadership, the same is applicable to family.

Dont forget that a relatively new discipline has emerged in the construction industry which is construction project management.


My input is concluded here: let each professional stay on his track. I am a Quantity Surveyor (QS) and a Certified Construction Project Manager (CPM)

true2home:
Nigerians can not understand certain things. Contractors are the builders of Construction works in America. I'm a Civil Engineer with major in Structures. I work as a Construction Inspector, my specific Title in the Department of Transportation. We are under the State of Maryland Office of Construction. Office of Construction has different professional Engineers working in it. Design Engineers are the one with Professional Engineering(PE) license and it a requirement to be a Designer. If you are into Construction and not Designing as a Civil Engineer, you don't need the PE to practice construction. This apply to other areas of Engineering. If you want to work for an Electrical Engineering firm as a Designer, you will need a PE to do so too. But not as a electrical contractor. I hope that clears things up a little.

There are Professional Engineers required to have License if they want to DESIGN. This apply to all professions in Engineering: the KEY difference is DESIGN. Construction or Contractor does not require Professional license. The Professional Engineers licensed (PE) do not come to the site at all. They design the job from their office and the Contractor bid for the contract to build it. We Inspector are Quality Control(QC/QA) representing the interest of the owner or government. we ensure the Quantity and Quality of the material as designed and verify the Source of Supply (SOS) as well in compliance to the already approved Supplier.

Dennis3D:


It is not a design issue and not in any way to conserve space where there is any. Like I said earlier the client prefers it. You can't force your choice over another client. If you want to see other staircase we have done with landing. Visit this thread here... And others on our profile posts...

https://www.nairaland.com/5955403/new-4-bedroom-duplex-swimming/5

true2home:
The problem here is not about Landing or No landing, the combination of the Spiral and L formation and the inaccurate Rise to Run of the Spiral is not complete. There will be a tripping hazard at that particular area, mark my words!

I am not trying to discredit your work but there are codes in construction that give the Minimum measurement to achieve functionality and safety. And what I see do not meet it. Its all good Sir

Dennis3D:


I wish I could mark those words as stated.
A riser of 150mm and a thread depth of 300mm doesn't meet standard just because there is a twist on the staircase design which is done to standard?

If you have a better staircase detail state it here. Moreover, I have shared other staircase design here and am sure maybe you are yet to read it up.

I would wonder what you will have to tell 85% of semi Detached structures in Lekki and island that their staircase is risky too?

Pls when doing a criticism which is welcomed by all. Do it constructively and realistically. Speaking of hazard, the stair you are talking about is safer than spiral staircase which is used in some residential and mostly in commercial properties that flow more traffic on it.

Without mixing words... If you are not on ground to confirm what you see. You don't have to jump into conclusion... The staircase you are seeing would be 3yrs old by December and the client and family have walked on it several times till date without a complain.

adanny01:


In Nigeria, yes the contractor must not be a professional engineer or Registered Engineer (RE in our case), but his construction must be supervised by an RE who signs an undertaking for the construction. You may never see the RE on site but he is responsible especially for QC/QA.

The government inspectors like you are hold the RE responsible for the QC/QA issues.

Secondly, every company registered with the government for construction activities must have an Engineer in the board of directors. So an Architect cannot register his own company as a construction company without having an Engr as one of the directors. I have given my credentials to some architects for this purpose.

adanny01:


In Nigeria, yes the contractor must not be a professional engineer or Registered Engineer (RE in our case), but his construction must be supervised by an RE who signs an undertaking for the construction. You may never see the RE on site but he is responsible especially for QC/QA.

The government inspectors like you are hold the RE responsible for the QC/QA issues.

Secondly, every company registered with the government for construction activities must have an Engineer in the board of directors. So an Architect cannot register his own company as a construction company without having an Engr as one of the directors. I have given my credentials to some architects for this purpose.

true2home:
Honestly, this is a Design issue. The stairs is never suppose to be like that. We do this in Nigeria to conserve space because we are trying to get the impossible into possible. if you had enough space, you will get a better result with proper landing. That will fail inspector all day long!

But like a GM in Lands once told me: "Its due to Nigerian Constraints American Man" lmao

saydfact:
EVERYONE WHO QUOTED ME ON MY COMMENT ABOUT ANY OF ARCHI, QS, BUILDER OR STRUCTURAL ENGR. LEADING A CONSTRUCTION TEAM.....


I saw your post oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh

1. There is a difference between leading a TEAM and doing another professional's work.

This is how it works;

you have Architects, Q.S, Builders and Structural Engr on a site job - THEN YOU HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER...

ANYBODY IN THE BUILDING TEAM CAN BE THAT PROJECT MANAGER..... if you still don't understand my statement; SORRY - I CAN'T HELP YOU.



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EgunMogaji2:


I don’t have a steel mill so no choice than to pony up.

I paid N2,700 yesterday at Omi Adio but was N2,450 two weeks ago at Apata.