@ oaroloye

Claims in a book or on Youtube are not necessarily facts. I will resist the temptation of discussing the claims you have made so as not to derail. They are quite interesting. But do they really matter?

Emphasising on our differences rather than our common grounds simply creates wars in the minds of people. Not change via the Gospel. YAHSHUA pallied with Gentiles, and ate with sinners. By breaking down the walls of exclusivity, we can be close enough to make an impact.

YAHSHUA's only law to mankind is Love. Love will not seek divisions. Peter, in his dream, was told to eat all animals for none is unclean.

We should keep the commandment(s) of YAHSHUA by loving our neighbours as our selves, both in words and actions. Emphasising divisions will limit our powers to reach out.

A bit on what you raised: should we really care how and what a name is? Aren't names identity tags? As an example, no matter how it is taught, Europeans and Asians may not be able to call African names properly. Does that take anything away from identity? The many divisions in Christianity may be immaterial. The many divisions in religions may be immaterial. Love is the only commandment, remember?

Oaroloye

Claims in a book or on Youtube are not necessarily facts. I will resist the temptation of discussing the claims you have made so as not to derail. They are quite interesting. But do they really matter?

Emphasising on our differences rather than our common grounds simply creates wars in the minds of people. Not change via the Gospel. YAHSHUA pallied with Gentiles, and ate with sinners. By breaking down the walls of exclusivity, we can be close enough to make an impact.

YAHSHUA's only law to mankind is Love. Love will not seek divisions. Peter, in his dream, was told to eat all animals for none is unclean.

We should keep the commandment(s) of YAHSHUA by loving our neighbours as our selves, both in words and actions. Emphasising divisions will limit our powers to reach out.

A bit on what you raised: should we really care how and what a name is? Aren't names identity tags? As an example, no matter how it is taught, Europeans and Asians may not be able to call African names properly. Does that take anything away from identity? The many divisions in Christianity may be immaterial. The many divisions in religions may be immaterial. Love is the only commandment, remember?

@ oaroloye

Your views are clearly addressed in my subsequent follow-ups after the original post where I have shed more light and provided pertinent explanations to other readers who came up with similar stance as yours. I may not go through all that again. If you wish, you may read them.

Somewhere previously I wrote that minor shifts in the beliefs of a particular religion, create denominations while major shifts create religions. The way you seem bent on poking holes, is the same way other denominations cannot understand why you have changed JESUS to YAHSHUA, and the likes, in your beliefs. I am sure you have encountered stiff opposirions in the past. But most certainly not with those who pursue TRUTH, irrespective of what colours different men/religions decides to paint it. This approach brings tolerance - religious and otherwise.

By the way, you have said nothing I have problems understanding.
And, I am not an atheist.

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@ oaroloye

I hope you are satisfied...

@ lennycool

Summary is that regardless of perception, understanding and mode/style/ sequences of communication with that creator, we may all be expressing the same thing(s) albeit in different "languages". Something like that.

@ lennycool

A lot more sensible now.

I agree with you. My original post accommodated your submission too.

@ lennycool

Sorry but i don't follow the logic of your response. Are you saying God is not a creator? Or is He not the creator of the universe as He is referred to? I don't get you.

Human God? Wow! That's new. I have never heard of that. Isn't God is a spirit and not a man?

I suspect your written expressions do not convey your intended message.

@ oaroloye

We really have not differed in our comments. I doubt if you read what I posted. I do not disagree with u at all.

God's definition of love is to keep His commandments. So man can love God regardless of his religion. Jesus said the Kingdom of Heaven is not for those who call him or call God, "father, father". On the last day, Jesus said lots of people will say they healed, preached, saved etc in his name but he has a different standard for judgement. That standard, my friend, is absolutely not religion. That standard is love.

At some point, you passed judgement on me. Lol. Typical of religion. Discuss ideas, not people. Leave judgement for God.

Happy Sunday everyone.

Africans should reconsider faith and embrace the pursuit of knowledge - science.

Safety is everyone's business!

SMS banking may not be in the best interest of Nigerians at the moment. Anyone, at gun point, could be forced to transfer money to accounts that thieves have access to from which instant withdraws can be made. With limited options open to victims, the consequences of refusing to cooperate can be discomforting, injurious or fatal.

Banks should be a step or two ahead of potential crimes targeted (or that could be targeted) at their operations. Criminals in Nigeria should be denied opportunities. I even wonder why nothing has been done about the numerous attacks on innocent people using ATM cards. Thieve rob people of money using the victims ATM cards and PIN collected by force mostly at gun point.

The possibility that people can transfer money using mobile phones presents even greater risks to public safety in Nigeria. Banks are aware of these possibilities and should device ways to protect the public. The sms money transfer is great but should not be deployed until necessary security infrastructures address potential risks. That victims do not operate SMS transfers or do not even have an account may not be good enough for desperate criminals.

SMS banking may not be in the best interest of Nigerians at the moment. Anyone, at gun point, could be forced to transfer money to accounts that thieves have access to from which instant withdraws can be made on their behalf. With limited options open to victims, the consequences of refusing to cooperate can be discomforting, injurious or fatal.

Banks should be a step or two ahead of potential crimes targeted (or that could be targeted) at their operations. Criminals should be denied opportunities. I even wonder why nothing has been done about the numerous attacks on innocent people targeted at ATM cards. Thieve rob people of money using the victims ATM cards and PIN collected by force mostly at gun point during 'One Chance' robbery attacks.

The possibility that people can transfer money using mobile phones presents even greater risks to public safety in Nigeria. Banks are aware of these possibilities and should device ways to protect the public. The sms money transfer is great but should not be deployed until necessary security infrastructures address potential risks. That victims do not operate SMS transfers or do not even have an account may not be good enough excuses for desperate criminals.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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share your thoughts....

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you are strong

truly.

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Yes

...Lead us not into temptation...

Logical

@Weah96

I understand u but I am not talking about the 1st set of atheists you describe. I refer to all atheists. U may want to read the original post.

I acknowledge the differences between the pacifist theories preached by Christ which is in sharp contrast to some qualities attributed to the Old testament God. Christ resolved this difference as human progression. Hate, may be too strong a word but I, like many christians, will not accept to kill an innocent person in blind obedience the way Abraham accepted. So I think this is immaterial in support of atheism since most christians/theists hold that position too.

Finally, yes humans should follow theism and atheism with reason. One day, in the non too distant future (maybe a million years or more; lol), it will be obvious that we pursue the same things. By then, all religions will be one because even science would have led us to acceptable conclusions.
I'm not keen about the fantasies myself (I hope I got what u meant).

@ voltron

U make sense but I don't think what u say is connected to this topic. Did u read it at all?

This is the Love He defined

The decision is yours. Forget temptation!

Love your neighbours...

Only if he is a father...

Johny, go easy on these. I have said nothing very different from earlier posts.

Johny, go easy on these. I have said nothing very different from the original post.