on the subject of,

“timelines” and ”grasping the big picture”

let me share with you an eschatological discovery I
think I may be on to.

I have been working on it for a while and it is a working theory in that the corrolations are manifesting themselves
consistently.

You decide for yourself

K.Krow (surfkrow)


I read the Gosple of John and many of the things Jesus
says and/or does seem slightly out of sink,

as though he is really using the present moment being recorded to reveal something to a
future audiance and its not the obvious exegesis were used to paying
attention to

(try to keep in mind the law of double and multiple fulfillment).

Johns Gosple is very different in many ways from the other synoptics.

I suspect the miracles highlighted in Johns Gosple
are some how related to the book of revelations and it was of John
that Jesus said to peter:

"What is it to thee if he should tarry till i
come?"

Now we know that Jesus said that because he intended to lift
John out of time and have him witness the end of days and then record
what he saw in "The Book of Revelations".

However, I dont think the meaning of "John's tarry" ends there.

One example, is the first miracle Jesus does In Johns Gosple which is to turn water to wine.
lets look at this more closely and in a different light,

Jesus' mother comes to him and says" they have no wine" and Jesus says "what
have i to do with thee? My time is not yet come."

Meaning??

He's at a wedding and his time has not yet come.

Also, the servents bring him 6 waterpots and the passage points out that
these waterpots are used for purification puposes
“ after the manner of purifying the jews”.

Why emphasize it?

(Please bare with I am getting to a point.)

So he turns water to wine and instructs the servents to:
“bear the wine unto the govenor of the feast."

And when they did the govenor did'nt know where it came from
so he called for the bridgroom and says to him :

"every man at the BEGINING sets forth good wine and when men have drunk there fill than
they drink the inferior wine but you have kept the good wine till now” (infering: till last).

Then scripture goes on:
“this is the begining of the miracles jesus did in ca'na and
manifested his glory”

stop,

He says to his mother “What have i to do with thee”
(or you could say what meaning will be drawn from this miracle i am about to do?)

“my time is not yet come “
( or you could say, [if he is the bridegroom and this is the wedding supper of the lamb being revealed in type ] that
his return to earth is not yet come)

because,

Maybe the meaning of this whole scene is some how connected to a point on the timeline of the last 7 years of tribulation where 6 of the 7 bowl plagues have been or are being poured out upon the earth

(or the Jews in particular because the 6 water pots are described as "used after the manner of purifying the jews" and they are turned to wine and there is a reference in the Book of REV. to "the winepress of the fierceness of
his wrath".

Anyway,

the further you go into Johns Gosple the more you find all these strange inuendo's.

In closing, I think that if this study proves to be fruitful then God is revealing elements through Johns gosple which may be needed to futher understand more completely events in greater detail in terms of sequencing them on the timeline of tribulation and tribulation “the great”.


One more thing.

Majoring on Gods repeatables,

I have pulled apart the book of revelations and started grouping together all the key words and
phrases that are repeated.

many peculiaritys have begun to show,


In the book of revelations u got 7 letters to 7 church's.

Why is it that in the first three letters, they end with these two key phrases:
"he that has an ear let him hear" and "he that overcomes" in that specific order?

However, in the final 4 letters the order of those 2 key phrases are reversed,
so as to read: "he that overcomes" and "he that has an ear let him hear"?

I suspect that 6 of the 7 letters pertain to 2 particular churchs each evolving on the timeline
begining, middle, end

The letter to the church of Philedelphia is uniquely singled out (Raptured)

Somthing came to my attention while i was mulling over this and that is that
when God talks about what is important to him, he starts where he is and then moves to what is
important to us and where we are.

However, we start with what is important to us and and where we are, than move closer to where he is
and whats most important to him.

What i am trying to wrap my mind around is that some how (maybe), God veiws and describes the end of
days (that 7 yr timeline) from his perspective and we veiw it from our
perspective.

Meaning, that our 1'st step onto the 7 yr time line (the beginning phase) God veiws and describes those occurances last. And when reading prophecy we may get tripped up if we dont take this fact into account,

John got a veiw of tribulation at its beginning, during its middle point and he also saw it from Gods
perspective which to us is the very end but to God, is immediately and now happening

(that point on the timeline when jesus is comming back and every knee is bending and every head is bowed out of respect for king of kings and lord of lords).

To further lend validity to this notion I offer up some key phrases that exemplify this frame of reference that points out how much attention is givin to the notion of a timeline by God and John’s own placement on that time line as he witnesses events unfold.

What follows are some of the different points of view that John sees events
unfolding on the timeline.

All scripture referenced here is from the book of revelations.

I don’t list all the examples here, this is just a sample. As follows:

1:1 shortly come to pass, 1:2 all things he saw, 1:3 time is near, 1:4 from him who is and who was and who is to
come, 1:7 behold he is coming , 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, The beginning and the end says the Lord, who is and who was and who is to come, 1:10 I was in the spirit on the lords day, 1:10 and I heard a voice behind me, 1:11 saying I am the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, 1:11 what you see, 1:12 then I turned, 1:12 having turned I saw in the midst (middle), 1:17 when I saw, 1:17 I am the first and the last, 1:18 I am he who lives and was dead and behold I am alive for evermore, 1:19 write the things which you have seen and the things which are and the things that will take place after this

In your first letter, if i understood it correctly, the notion is
that someday we may "get it" and what "it" may be and what we do
then?

My first reaction was that the theme reminded me of what i
wrote about how i drove everybody away because they
did'nt get "it" and then lamenting that i really did'nt get "it" for
20 yrs ("it" being love out of humility).

However you head in a different direction with "it".

The direction you go in is a familiar one to me.

I am going to kinda break down what you wrote and add my
own thoughts along the way and i hope you find something of intrest to
you along the way.


To begin with,

you basicly point out that we percieve reality with a begining and an end where as God is beyond it because he is omniscient and omnipresent.


For years i have been feeling around this notion of "time" as in reconsciling time to God and God as a
great time traveler which he makes very clear in his word.

I'm thinking along the lines of the movie "The Butterfly Effect" with
Jesus at the center of it all.

God picked the single moment within all the streams of probality that could've existed and do exist (maybe
simultaneously) that would best reconsile his creation (man) to
himself. and those that are his own are faithing their way into him as
a result.

Maybe, for each person their are an infinit # of persons that that person could be and it varies with every choice and decision that person makes.

Now, God knows all the persons each of us could potentialy be and has revealed his light to every single one of them in there own distinct reality and has done so with every one of us. As a result God knows who

(givin the right set of circumstances)

would and would not respond to his light on his terms.

Now, consider the fall of Adam and that every one of us is
but a notion that Adam had of himself and i leave that thought there
for now.


Back to my observations of this letter.

You put forth the notion that "the timeline happens in increments and each moment takes
place within its own time, but is it the same moment for you as it is for me and everyone else? or do we each have our own individual,personal moments?"

Some how i think reality is in a state of flux.

What i mean is that its not fully "concretionized" And because of this we all are sharing what seems to be one reality yet this is an appearance not a fact

(but not an illusion either and i will explain a little later).

further on in your letter you ponder a question.

You say,
"think of someone that was lost and now is found. Were they damned before they were saved, or
were they destined to become saved? If so, were they ever really damned at all?"

Then you quote scripture:
"chosen befor the world was formed" and "the lamb slain from the foundation of the world".

Then you say
"all those who’s names are written in that book will continue with god forever".

Moreover, you reflect:

"if you care at all whether your in that book, chances
are you are, but he also said you can lose your place by failing to
act in faith and there's a chance up to a point. And something about
fear and trembling".

futher specificity is needed.

sin of the spirit.
"That attitudinal frame of reference that ultimatly leads to a callousness in ones concern for the things of God."

That sin of the spirit is not a particular act but a frame of reference that leads to God turning you over to a strong delusion, you belive a lie and are damned.

In that case you proved to be a son of the devil to
begin with,

(Like Judas)

it was'nt how he began in his walk with
Jesus but how he ended up.



Now, applying this to my own life, i did and still do cling closly to the things of God. I do work my salvation out with much fear and trembling, not because im not sure if im saved but because i value it so much. And what i value so much is that Jesus Loves me enough to allow me to fall down as often as i have and forsake him as i have.

The thing is do you still love him?
Jesus alive to us has helped us realize how meaningful his word really is to
our lives.

He put "flesh and blood" On Gods word in a way that we
did'nt just learn a principle we identified with it!

And that is the compass, the word come alive and thats the gift we now posses

Ask yourself a question, what do you want from your
loved ones trust? or perfection?

Jesus says I am he that blotteth out thy sins for thine own sake! I will never leave you or forsake you!


Remember that we fell in love with jesus because he went out of his
way to make sure we understood how much he loved us and thats what we
carry in our hearts
Deep calls to deep and the spirit bears witness!

That’s why i can understand
it being harder to get out of gods will then it was to stay in it.


Because every waking moment that i came to understand more the depth
of my own depravity,

I equally became aware of Jesus loving me in
spite of it.

The walk with Jesus is a love affair of the first order
and growth is born out of it!

I think i got off track but i cant say
im sorry

The point was, when you fall u can always start over.
Just get up facing in the right direction and press on, a little wiser
and a little more wantin to get it right. Not because you have to but
because you want to and thats the beauty of recieving unconditional
love.

The fear and trembling comes (for myself) when you just don’t
care any more. Not about being in the lamb’s book of life, but about
what Jesus has revealed to you, that he loved you and only you can
know how deep that love runs because only you can Know how unworthy
you are and that is "first love"!

As for losing your place in "the book of life" by failing to act in faith.

What I think he meant is that you
“continue the way you began, steadfast in faith”,

because that is what we can do and is what God expects us to do and why
would'nt we? PRAISE GOD!

“All the promises of God are in him amen
and so be it unto you” !

This is the “sabbathing” that remains for
Gods people, where we lay down our dead “perfectionism” which is
just “filthy rags” and claim the “finished work of Christ”

and if it is finished, all thats left is the blessings
(the promises to be held onto more real than all the things of time).

This is the channel that strikes the connection to Christ And through that channel Christ sets
up his abode in us AND THIS IS THE BORN AGAIN EXPERIENCE.

Born in grace and love


further on you say,
"every so often i catch a tiny glimpse of
all time as being one moment and in that one moment i see everything
and it all makes sense".

I add.

Could this be an aspect of w
"the breath of eternity is upon you"?



“if you have the spirit of Christ, you have the mind of Christ and it makes you smarter”

and this is just common sense logical. But this notion of yours
“time as being one moment and seeing it all make sense”

adds a new dimension to its meaning.

Could it be that the:
"God/Christ/time traveler/awareness of it all mentality"

may be a manifestation of Christs spirit dwelling in you?


Dose it not lend itself to the fact that you would begin to perceive
reality from Jesus’ own perspective which dose make sense of it
all?

I am not saying that you "get it all" for "we presently see through a dim glass darkly"

but never the less these impressions could be a manifestation of
"the renewing of your mind"

and I get them as well. There is something very real and important here to be
understood. ,

Regards K.Krow (surfkrow)

Our story begins on the eve of the 2018 "GlobalComm" treatice.

The president was enrout to the region for the event.  David Burk (Americas ambassador to Israel) was at ground zero awaiting the presidents arrival.  Peter Jamison (The presidents chief advisor on middle eastern affairs was on board)

The president and his advisor had been going over various details of the accord for the better part of two hours  at which time the "Commander in Chief" retired to his cabin for some much needed shut eye.  It was approxamately 3 hours outside of Israeli air space and the flights schedualed e.t.a.

The advisor sat staring out into the dark of night  traversing in thought  over the conversation that had transpired between the president and himself.

"Mr.Jamison" (he recollected)

"I have my reservations about current developements in the region.  Steps have been takin to pave the way toward complete global reconciliation.  A Common market is in fact within reach. This shall come as a suprise Mr.Jamison but contrary to popular opinion I do not share in the enthusiasms of our day over this utopianistic ideology bein realized."

"Are you a religous man Mr.Jamison?  The president  asked,
Just a gut check son, did we get it right"?

Agnostic at best sir.  was Jamisons reply,

" A rather safe position to take would'nt you say Mr.Jamison? We have discovered how to articulate with a word all that we are unsure of and seek solice at least in the knowledge that we are not blind to our own ignorence, yet we are still left unsure and there for never certain and thus meerly grateful that 'it" (the uncertainty of it all, that is, ) has'nt happened to us yet.  Never mind the impending sense of vulnerability that ever haunts what peace of mind we are capable of fabricating for ourselves for whence can there come peace in the absence of certainty unless there is faith"? 

The president paused then spoke,


"Evangelism is not my intent Mr.Jamison, only an observation and that is,
So is the day advisor, uncertain of  what the night may bring, yet it knows with a surety when darkness is upon it

The president continued,

"Behold the people are one and now nothing shall be restrained from them which they have imagened to do. Let us therefor go down and confound there language that they may not understand one another."

Genesis 11:6

"Point is Mr.jamison , God knows the vanity of our own imagenations.  He watches as we parade around darkened in the understanding of our own condition which is in fact corrupt.  Mercifully God confounds our reconsiliations or attempts thereof  for God knows and regrets that the day man has reconsiled himself as one voice so shall his sin against all creation be complete".

The president paused for an enduring moment as unspoken thoughts concluded the realization.

"And so shall we stand as one man with one voice befor one God" 

As if on cue the president quipped

"Subsuquently any talk of peace in our time or any for that matter shoud be a rhetoric used for winning elections and never more. Politics is the art of compromising regret in the realization that life at its best offers only the lesser of a greater evil.  Pearls of wisdom grounded in realism. A quality fundamental to the character and stature of a man charged with the office and the duties of the presidency.  However as we both well know the common man would beg to differ, finding my pessimistic evaluations  in regards to his collective soul repulsive.  Man is a depraved creature Mr.Jamison,  blessed with an instinct to live,  yet cursed with the reality of survival. "And what will a man give in exchange for his soul"?  I submit my fatalistic frame of reference threatens that survival for it removes the innocense from mans nature, leaving virtue compromised in its wake and man accountable to that void.

Survival Mr.Jamison, is governed by the right to exist and every man knows "the meek shall inherate the earth"
not the lesser of a greater evil.

Silence found both men veiwing through the porthole mounted between them.

The president grew increasingly aware of the potential for moral conflict rising in his advisors loyalties having disclosed such a fatalistic pessimism for the very same policies with which he had championed during his bid for office.

No other candidate during the primaries had debated for U.S. involvement in fascilitating the policies of
globalization more effectively.

The president was continued.

Having come this far in our observations Mr.Jamison we discover the true nature of mans depravity
and that is his own refusal to accept the truth that mankind is in fact the lesser of a greater evil for it
strips him of his right to exist and covetiousness, the true nature of mans depravity won't allow it


Here we witness the transformation of man from that of a victim with the potential to be a martyr
still in tact which in turn can open the door to salvation for God is in the buisness of forgiving our
vain existance, to that of a madman deluded with an insationable desire to glorify his own shame.

End result, prides greedy ransom paid in full,

The president stared out into the dark of night and observed "theres a stillness in the air Mr.Jamison. I've become increasingly aware of its presence as we cross further into this dark corner of the world. Bothers me son,  like calm befor a storm. A quality reminisent of the very alliances we now fordge.  If were not careful we may find ourselves wooed to sleep by this silent lucidity and i can assure you advisor that slumber invites the dawn of a terrible day for it renders all unconscience and unaware of heavens winds as they gathered together in Gods wrath during the night watch.  Mark my words when we wake we will have found ourselves seventy ways from sunday lost in the midsts of a storm the likes of which this world has never known. These alliances,  This stepping stone to a greater existance, security and world peace shall be the undoing of us all for i submit that these last steps are but a culmination of mans birthright turned abomination leaving our destiny in the hands of an angry God and an end to the rebellion of our existance".

Jamison fell asleep and woke five hours later to A.F.1 on red alert and a country who's president had been declared missing in action.

Prior to the 2018 "Globalcomm treatiice"  The world wide web. television and radio airways,  all venues of electronic media blanketing the globe were compromised by transmissions of religous propoganda,

communications:

Transmission date: 9/17
"Fear God and give glory to him for the hour of his judgement has come; and worship him who made heaven and earth the sea and springs of water". [Rv.14:7]]



Transmission date: 9/21

"If anyone worship the beast and his image and recieves his mark on his forhead or on his hand,  "He himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God which is poured out full strength into the cup of his indignation.  He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presense of the holy angels and and in the presense of the Lamb.  And the smoke of the torment ascends forever and ever and they have no rest day or night who worship the beast and his image and whoever recieves the mark of his name.  Here is the patients of the saintshere are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. [Rv. 14:9-12]



Transmission date: 9/22

"Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city because she has made all the nations to drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." [Rv. 14:8]



Prior to the transmission of  9/ 17,  missing persons statistics recorded 300 million reports worldwide. The time frame was narrowed down to a 3 hour window of occurance.   International dignitaries, humanitarians, poloticians and scholars made up about 15% of  the cross section, the rest of the "abducties were of private citizenrie. The  collective list was highligted by the MIA status of the president of the United States.

When the transmissions occured panic set in and a spirit of collectevism began to sweep the entire world.  Simultaneously, "Hybrid Radiance" accounts started mounting. Reports of individuals with the peculiar aboration of a "bright glow" eminating from the head and facial regions began to surface. In 2 months, 134,430 cases were confirmed world wide.

Radiant's were described as "otherworldly"  wih shinning eyes and translucent flesh seemingly ethereal in nature.  Eye witness accounts of Hybrids shared common themes including psychic abilities such as mental telepathy and precognition. Popular prejudice was bitter because the occurance of radiants was coinciding with  the abductions of  internationls as well as family members and loved ones. This, coupled with the complete hyjacking of medias accross the globe for the express purpose of transmitting in no uncertain terms the emminent arrival of God himself and  judgement upon the entire world left little sympothy for the Radiants.  Fearful accusations spread that "the matchsticks" could kill with a thought. underground sympothizers gave refuge to their fleeing remnant.  Debate lingered over wether or not the case studies  were Divine, human, or extraterrestrial in origin. Many belived the radiants were the 144,000 witnesses mentioned in the apocalypse.

These events led to the establishment of the  "Global Systems Board".

Human rights violations were on the rise as governments sought to ferret out communications systems violators believed to be  the extreamist responsable for the abductions and  systems compromise of 2017, 2021/22. 

High level medical officials represented the governments approach to treating the hybrids with clinical protocols  and were relocated to restricted areas for observational study in an attempt to discover the cause as well as to protect the population from unforseen contamination.

At the height of the hybrid quarentines governments began sealing off areas where they were located.  Relatives and social contacts in the immediate vacinity were subjected to interveiw, interrogation and in some instances apprehension.  As word got out about increasing rights violations, surrenders of the hybrids became less frequent.  People became afraid of government tactics and they began to listen to the "Radiants" message,


Global systems registry was the cohesive deployment of international counter terrorist communications systems operations.

Communications systems compromise revealed the vulnerabilities of isolated and uncoordinated technologies thus rendering national souvriegns more inclined to share resources, technologies and most importantly the evolving foci of census information with the Global systems Board.

Regionaly, national souvriegns networked into GSB  which was comprised of international representation presiding over global systems operations, an internationaly sponsored and officiated medium for Global community Registration.

GSB provided media along secured lines of communication which utilized a sophisticated network of counter lock techhnologies ensambling and orchestrating an arsenal global in reach, omnipotent in technological acheivment and omnoscient in its data/information base.  GSB was virtualy omnipresent in its judication of global law.  All communication electronic in nature was wired to the board so as to fend off, hunt down and prosecute communications violators.

Terrorists were believed to be responsable for the abduction of dignitaries, humanitarians,  and of special note the President of the United States.  Slight increases in missing persons statistics were attributed to the same source and there was a growing paranoia within the powers that be that in many instances the missing status of many was in fact voluntary acts of underground defection. On the global level the increase in missing person statistics was slight. however, at the local level the impact of missing persons's was having an alarming effect.

Religous extreamism i.e. Islamic suicide bombers (children),  Jihad (holy wars) gave birth to zero tolerance for polorizing belife systems no matter the geopolitical spectrums of historic tradition.  Religous elitism and the martyrdom it inspired was off the table.  Humanism filtered into every major religion of the world administering a globaly sanctioned doctrine that proclamed mankinds rights of collective and individual existance. In the aftermath, fundamentalists of all religous systems now labeled extreamists for there resistance to this humanist agenda were drivin underground.

Underground sympothizers and there cohorts were antagonistic to the evolving polocies of global cencus registry and the encroachment of Gobal law upon national souverns.  Global commerce evolved into an electronic form of currency officiated through "Global Systems".  No one could buy or sell without being a legitamate member of the global community.  Without systems ID in hand or eye to validate recognition by GSB individuals were considered rougue and labeled as terrorists or at the very least sympothizers.

Global sytems oporations were delegated to regional anchors sponsoring national representation as defined:

"To the discloser of identity and establishment of national origin of individuals as recognized by the Global Systems Board as legitamate members of the Global Community.

In the end GSB would fall victim to the largest take over in known history and re-emerge as Global Systems Control.

Which would ride a pale horse,

Not many days hence Global Systems Control will belong to one man and upon this man shall reside the judgement of the world.  This man will recieve power for an hour, for a day, for a week of years.  On this mans behalf life shall be givin to an image made in his own likeness.  this image shall both be and preside upon Global Systems control.

And what is GSC?     

A murderer by the name of Cain,

HERE IS WISDOM
LET HIM THAT HAS UNDERSTANDING COUNT THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST; FOR IT IS THE NUMBER OF A MAN ; AND HIS NUMBER IS SIX HUNDRED THREESCORE AND SIX.

Revelations 13:18