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Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by ANYPEN(m): 12:51pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Almost every Muslim needs an overhaul in their orientation. How can someone get to the level of consul-general of a nation & still think this narrow? This is just hatred & its the kind of mind-set these sucide bombers carry. I think his ways should be well monitored cause we still need the sponsors of Boko. This country needs H E L P! |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by chukwukezie(m): 12:52pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
who is forcing who? |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by DExplorer1: 12:52pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
smile11s: RELIGIOUS BIGOT, I AM NOT!Just as said. . . D-Explorer: |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Nobody: 12:52pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Ki-Katanga: Church is an unholy place to a true Muslim . If u move with real alfas and imams, they will tell u if death meets u in places like shrine or church u are going straight to hell. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by DonaldGenes(m): 12:54pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Goddess12: Why must he go to church? you ibos need to get a life, if he were to be ibo would you have forced him to go to the mosque, you get as much as you give, you want to tell me that a consular must and have been visiting all bereaved families in the US? you are not even nigerians.use your six sense well okay and try to @least qrapple with the topic |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by solomon111(m): 12:54pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
2mch:+1000. These are people,who will deny that they are Nigerians,at any given opportunity. Let them go and ask their america for support. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Nobody: 12:54pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
abdulkayus: Eish . I always thought all muslims are hypocrites but u proof me wrong |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by greaterlove(m): 12:54pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
If I may add, I am a christian and I have muslim friends and me and my muslim friends go to church weddings together and I have attended muslim weddings and functions thou not inside a mosque, so I don't think we should judge muslims by consul's statements. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by mallorca(m): 12:54pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
redsun: The animal is a boko haram,representing nigerian terrorist government in new york. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by mallorca(m): 12:55pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
gboss4sure: Jeez, What has religion got to do with Government?. GEJ should recall and sack that man with immediate effect.supported |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by manny4life(m): 12:56pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Betathings, where are you? You see, when I make a comment [size=16pt]"In as much as I dislike Islam and it's practice"[/size], all the attack dogs will come out... Isn't it rather funny, look at this excerpt I wish to place on record the fact that Mr. Onyeani tried to contact me while I was attending the Road Show on Aviation hosted by the Honourable Minister of Aviation. At the end of the Road show, I called him. He pointed out the complaints, for which I told him that I received an invitation letter for the church service of Friday, 10th August, 2012. [size=16pt]I told Mr. Onyeani that since it was a church service, I wouldn’t know what to do during the service as a Muslim.[/size] I have never attended a church service. However, I sent one of the most senior staff of the Consulate General, who incidentally, is an Igbo man and a Catholic, to represent me and the Consulate General. Meanwhile, he contradicts himself by saying, I wish to point out, for the avoidance of doubt, that since my arrival in New York, [size=16pt]I have had the pleasure of attending meetings, dedications, baptismal in churches not only in New York but in other states under the Jurisdiction of the Consulate General.[/size] I never ever told Mr. Onyeani that “I can never enter a Church”. I have had the pleasure, both in Nigeria and USA, of joing my friends in all their events held in churches. But I have never attended a church service. This statement can be checked with the leadership of the Organisation for the Advancement of Nigerians, (Organisers of New York Parade) and others whom I have had the pleasure of joining in their events organized in various churches. I have never been, and will never be, a Religious bigot. Anybody that had ever had any direct contact with me will vouch for me on this. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by anuforoudo(f): 12:56pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Please let the erratic and religious fanatic consulate be recalled back immediately. Am so sure that no muslim from Yoruba LAND can do that and a christian no matter his level of spirituality can do that to muslim in a far and civilized country like USA. Please...Jonathan call him back. He is BOKO HARAM in a far country. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Afam4eva(m): 12:56pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
2mch: Being of Nigerian descent doesn't make you Nigerian. Most of those people carry American passports. If they are American they shouldn't expect anything from the Nigerian consulate. I didn't even know people even cared about these consulate people enough to invite them anywhere. We Nigerians have to live and let live. Let people be guided by their religious belief, personal belief if they want to, as long as it does not jeopardize the life of others. I understand the issue of sensitivity but does the writer have solid proof that he said this? If he does then that should have been released along with this writeup. Plus Nigerian's are not too known for applying wisdom or diplomacy before they talk.If those people carry American passports like you say, then why do we have a Nigerian embassy in the US? |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Moukafoam(f): 12:57pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Goddess12: Why must he go to church? you ibos need to get a life, if he were to be ibo would you have forced him to go to the mosque, you get as much as you give, you want to tell me that a consular must and have been visiting all bereaved families in the US? you are not even nigerians. Read before you comment! Τhe funeral wasn't in τhe church. Had it been he showed interest he would have known Ŧħåϯ. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by abdulkayus(m): 12:57pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
9jadelta: hey dont abuse islam and its holy book, if u hav any issue wit d bigot, face him bt nt d religion. D statement of d consul general is height of insentitiveness. Dat man need to be call bac ASAP and be posted to somalia. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by aryzgreat: 1:00pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Nigerians are already blasting the man after he responded to the allegation, below are some of the comments, slym says: August 15, 2012 at 2:45 am Mr Habib Baba Habu, you claimed in your response that you “have had the pleasure of attending meetings, dedications, baptismal in churches”. you also stated that you “have had the pleasure both in Nigeria and USA of joining my friends in all their events held in churches”. but you had earlier on alleged that your response to Onyeani was thus “since it was a church service, i wouldnt know what to do during the service as a muslim”. this is where you got it all wrong! what did you do in the meetings, dedications, baptismals, and all the events of friends both in Nigeria and USA held in churches which according to you, you had the PLEASURE of attending? one had expected a spirited effort at putting the facts straight and redeeming what is left of our shattered image abroad. but rather, you choose to stoke the fire of incompetence, sectionalism and religious bigotry already burning under your butt. at the stage you are(global), and with the resources availlable to your office, you could have attended in the company of a retinue of christian underlings and let them guide you on what to do. also, every public comment should be well vetted to avoid sending the wrong signal from what was actually intended. my advice is that you try the much you can to repair the damage and redeem our standing in the face of Americans where this happened and the World over who are keenly watching. David says: August 14, 2012 at 10:32 pm First, may their soul rest in peace and God grant them paradise. Now can someone tell me are these people Nigerian, or US or both citizens? If they are both citizens of Nigeria and US, did Obama or any rep attend? If they are Nigerians, are they registered with the consulate? If yes, then the Ambassador has to resign, if no then he has no business attending anything. Reply FIJABI KAMORUDEEN says: August 14, 2012 at 10:48 pm I WAS BORN A MUSLIM,THANK GOD,I AM NOW A CHRISTIAN BY FAITH (IJN).RELIGIOUS BIGOTERY,ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM & MOSLEM EXTREMISM OF PERSONS,SUCH AS HABIB,AMONG THE MAJORITY OF NORTHERNERS & A FEW SOUTHERNERS WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I BECAME A CHRISTIAN.HABU’S REPLY WAS AN AFTERTAUGHT;HIS ACTIONS,REACTIONS&UTTERANCES SMELL & LOOK BOKO.THEY MAKE MY HEART BLEED & THEY CORRODED & ERODED THE SPIRIT OF NATIONALISM IN ME TO THE EXTENT THAT I FEEL LIKE NIGERIA SHOULD BREAK INTO TWO/MORE NATIONS IMMEDIATELY! Reply James says: August 14, 2012 at 11:31 pm I suggest that for better representation, christians be sent to countries where there are more Nigerian christians, just as no christian can or has ever been sent saudi arabia. Of what good is it if he cant protect the interest of the teaming christians. Reply Samuel Oyibo says: August 15, 2012 at 2:59 am The Consul-General of Nigeria in US, exemplies Boko Haram in diaspora. He has behaved true to self – he did not hide his identity and feelings about non-muslims. Will hatred to other people and their religions even at death, really take us to the “heaven”? One wonders how such character as HABIB BABA HABU becomes a Nigeria Consul-General. Why look for Boko Haram sponsors when people like the Consul-General of Nigeria apears to be one. Before God allow this to come public, HABIB BABA HABU (the Consul-General of Nigeria in NY) must have mal-treated hundreds of other innocent Nigerians, especially the christians/non-muslims. ONE NIGERIA IS NOT IN THE HEARTS AND THINKING OF MAJORITY OF NIGERIA MUSLIMS. He should graciously resigned from that position immediately and not continue to destroy the image of this country. Enough is a enough. Reply |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by abdulkayus(m): 1:01pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
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Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by kaeto(m): 1:02pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
abdulkayus:IBB, Atiku, and many prominent men sat close to me in Peter Odili's daughter's wedding inside the st. John's catholic church in portharcourt. Who the hell is this epileptic habu and the bas.tards supporting this silly conduct of his. Education in the north is so weak, it produces mainly terrorists, ignoramuses, boko haramites,habu's and their likes here on Nl. No suprises at all, its what you get when you take a northern muslim from the water arid desert to NY. Fools! 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by kasa79(m): 1:02pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
[quote author=aryzgreat] you must be a blind man, please read the write-up again, the wake keeping did not hold in a church, this accident was widely reported in the media, and our so-called consul-general could not reply a simple mail sent to his office bearing in mind the tragic loss to nigeria. A condolence message from the consul-general's office would av calm strayed nerves even if he didn't come. may dere souls rest in peace |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Afam4eva(m): 1:02pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
This calls to the questions as to how these ambassadors are chosen. You should know that in order to be an ambassador of a country, you have to be ready to defend just about everything that that country entails be it in Religion, social or cultural representation. So, for the Nigerian consular to open his dirty mouth to utter such gibberish shows that we have a long way to go. I guess he made that statement without even thinking of the consequence and for not knowing an answer to give. Another question that needs to be asked is, is he the only person that could have represented the Nigerian embassy? Doesn't he have a chirstiaan deputy of just about anybody from the embassy that's a christian? Why didn't he even visit the victims family to sign a condolence register on behalf of the embassy? What all this brings to the fore is that, it's either we throw away our ethnic and religious differences to unite and forge a common front or we apply federal, religious and tribal character to the latter. At least two or more ambassadors must be appointed to represent the two major religions and the ethnic groups in Nigeria. Nonsense. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Dynaman(m): 1:02pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Goddess12: Why must he go to church? you ibos need to get a life, if he were to be ibo would you have forced him to go to the mosque, you get as much as you give, you want to tell me that a consular must and have been visiting all bereaved families in the US? you are not even nigerians.u r dumb! We r talking about condolence visit nobody said he should convert to Christianity or stay attending church services. He is not worth representing Nigerians in America period! Religious fanatics |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Nobody: 1:03pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
redsun: Nigerians are backward because they are religiously indoctrinated. Christianity and islam are agents of darkness in nigeria. U can say that again . Have u ever wondered why africa is d only continent that has black people among all continents of d world ? Blacks are white zombies and that what dey will continue to be until we kill religion |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by manny4life(m): 1:04pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
abdulkayus: What was quoted out of context? Did you neot read his response? You can attend church services if it's for baptism and other celebration stuff, BUT you cannot attend when it's for a mourning period... shioor, go tell that to the dogs... 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by karpentar: 1:06pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
@Obowunmi: Nigerian christians will say the same thing too sha. Nigeria is divided on all fronts: christian, muslim, igbo, yoruba, hausa, rich, poor....sad and insensitive. Don't attempt to balance anything. No Nigerian Christian or any Christian for that matter on the position of this moslem fanatic (well, all moslems are the same. Some may just be more vocal than the others, but the mindset is same) will refuse to enter a mosque under similar circumstance. I am tired of folks always seeking to create the impression that all relgion could be like islam. Islam was violently introduced to this poor planet and the consequence of that lingers on. I am a bit supprised that a moslem was even posted to a christain dominated USA as a Consul-general. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by CHIDIEJIOGU: 1:07pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
2mch: Let us respect the man's religion. It takes a liberal christian or muslim to do this. If he sent a representative with a personal statement then no harm done. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.THE CG IS NOT SHOWING ANY SIGN OF INTEREST WHATSOEVER.SO BECOS HE IS MUSLIM,NIGERIAN XTIANS IS NO LONGER REPRESENTED? AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SENDING A REPRESENTATIVE, IS IT A YOUNG MAN IN SHORTS AND T-SHIRT WHO REFUSED TO SHOW HIS PRESENCE(MAYBE ON ORDERS FROM THE CG)TO QUIETLY TELL THE BEREAVED THAT HIS LETTER HAS REACHED THE CONSULATE?tHE PRESIDENCY NEEDS TO HEAR ABOUT THIS.SUCH BLATANT ARROGANCE SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Dynaman(m): 1:07pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Goddess12: Why must he go to church? you ibos need to get a life, if he were to be ibo would you have forced him to go to the mosque, you get as much as you give, you want to tell me that a consular must and have been visiting all bereaved families in the US? you are not even nigerians.u r dumb! We r talking about condolence visit nobody said he should convert to Christianity or stay attending church services. He is not worth representing Nigerians in America period! Religious fanatics 9jadelta: 9jadelta: 9jadelta:respect other religions unenlightened muslim fanatic or jihadist, boko haram |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Lovine: 1:07pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Let me ask this question/ CAN NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT SEND A CHRISTIAN DIPLOMAT TO SAUDI ARABIA, IRAN, KUWAIT, AFGHANISTAN etc? Why should this government send a Muslim to a Christian nation or is America a Muslim nation? This bit my eyes. What is Gej upto? |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by BabaO2: 1:07pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
2mch: Let us respect the man's religion. It takes a liberal christian or muslim to do this. If he sent a representative with a personal statement then no harm done.which respect, he should be relieved immediately, a parochial person cant occupy that post. Arrant nonsense, and they said they dont know the financiers of bokoharam? |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by sayso: 1:07pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Peps leave religion out of these.We should be calling for his resignation.Nigerians in NY should toll these lines to get him out of that seat.GEJ,you must be as brave as the Egyptian President. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by hakeem4shi(m): 1:08pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Kagawa: @ai119, That's how quick we Я̩̥̊ to fight ourselves instead of uniting for a common goal. Smh* |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Afam4eva(m): 1:08pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
timmy1999: Well...I will blame GEJ for all this..how can u send a muslim ambassador to a country dorminated by christians..can he send a christian to saudi arabia as an ambassador...that's why I will forever respect obasanjo...the man that know what is called nigeria...he know yoruba are many in uk..he put yoruba as ambassador there..in USA hew put ibo man...but dis useless GEJ...he put hausa as UK ambassador and even USA..dos dat make any sense...tell me nairalandersYou have made a very good point. That's why Obasanjo even though i'm not his fan, is one of the smartest presidents Nigeria has ever produced. I remember at one point, the two ambassadors appointed to the US(New York and Atlanta) were Igbos because they form the majority in the US. A yoruba man was also sent to the UK because Yorubas dominate that place. You can't send an Igbo man to saudi Arabia for example because majority of Nigerians there will definitely be Muslims. This is the height of insensitivity. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by stagger: 1:10pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Look, there is no need for all this hullabaloo. As a Christian, I cannot enter a mosque. Islam considers it haram, just the way it considers it haram for a muslim to enter a church because they believe it is not a sacred place. Only mosques are considered sacred, and even at that, there are levels of sacredness with mosques at the Kabba, Jerusalem and Medina being the most sacred mosques in Islam. The Consular-General is only being a true muslim. |
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