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Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by seunajia: 2:45pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
afam4eva: My brother speak for yourself. We have had so many folks on this thread speak wicked and unfairly about the man and Islam without first-hand information on the happenings. It's sad. Now to the points you raised. If he said what was reported he said in that manner he was reported to have said it, ℓ☺ℓ. Then he erred, he exhibited TACTLESSNESS and if there is a punishment, he should be subjected to it. Fair enough! Good point you raised there! Was there a register? Did he (the representative) sign it? |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by passionate88: 2:48pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
2mch: Let us respect the man's religion. It takes a liberal christian or muslim to do this. If he sent a representative with a personal statement then no harm done. I know in Nairaland I've seen nd read on many topics where clergy men visited mosques and even fasted with muslims but can u honestly say the same of any imam or alfa that can do same let's say on lent, easter, christmas or the new year?... |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by tintingz(m): 2:59pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
amosy007:reali?...sultan of sokoto went for wakekeeping of people who died in bomb blast by BH...do you know what your christian fella did?...they boo him mock him until the bishop tell him to wait outside in his car. Hello o what do we call that...apart from Ojukwu permit or not a post to represent Nigeria, he is a stateman...my question is can ojukwu enter a mosque? |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by BetaThings: 3:04pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
smile11s: RELIGIOUS BIGOT, I AM NOT! Did people read this even if they don't believe it? And we seem to be dealing with a journalist here I am not sure that the thread captures the story quite well Anyway Did Mr Oyeani explained to him what he would need to do when they are doing the church service? Would this coincide with the Jumat service on that day? Personally, I would not know what to do during a church service- When they are singing what would I do? When they pray in Jesus name, should a muslim say Amin? Is it not really better that a christian who can fit in attend Personally, if I have an event with heavy religious content, I would prefer a muslim who would not stand around awkwardly I also expect a christian to prefer going to a church service |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by 2mch(m): 3:08pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
passionate88: The problem i foresaw on this thread was that Nigerian's will try to force their beliefs on the guy, and try to tell him how he MUST live his life. Would you like it if you were being forced to do things that were against your personal belief? I am christian but have muslim family members. Much as i respect them and love them, i will not enter a mosque or a babalawo's shrine just to prove a point to anyone. As long as i dont use my beliefs in a detrimental away, i should be free to practice how i want. Muslim or Christian. Thats all. I wasnt quick to comment initially on the story because it seemed quite funny. I was waiting for the rebuttal, that i why i asked the OP for Proof. Why take one man's word and start insulting someone when you have not heard from the other? We have ot be objective. This witch-hunt is ridiculous. There is even no evidence that he was told it will not be at a church. I know there would have been a church service for the victims, and everything would have leaned towards a religious angle heavily. So i can write a story on NL with no proof damaging you, and you will not be disappointed if NLers took it as fact, before hearing your side? 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by obowunmi(m): 3:08pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
With all the grammatical errors, I doubt any of it is real. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by johnojohn: 3:09pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Noooooo we can't take dis anymore that mad man should b sent back to nigeria,any never again should he b giveing any post again,big old fooooollllllllll |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by obowunmi(m): 3:12pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
2mch I don't think this is a witch hunt. When you deal with Nigerians, you must play some serious politics and tell all kinds of lies. He spoke anyhow, and when you speak anyhow to someone that is hurting....it never turns out well. Goodluck to Habibu...weak response by the way. He needs to work on his english. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by texazzpete(m): 3:13pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
This Chika Oyeani sef na m0r0n. How can your SmS go like "Why did the consulate refuse to play any role in the tragic death of the five Nigerians" Was the consulate supposed to play a role in their death?! |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by texazzpete(m): 3:15pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
obowunmi: Oyeani's english is worse...and he claims to be a journalist. Let the so-called 'Arondizuogu patriotic union' tell us why they held a party for folks including minors up until the early hours of the morning. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by 2mch(m): 3:15pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
obowunmi: 2mch I don't think this is a witch hunt. When you deal with Nigerians, you must play some serious politics and tell all kinds of lies. He spoke anyhow, and when you speak anyhow to someone that is hurting....it never turns out well. All i asked was for proof. If the OP has no proof he said all these things, then the whole post is a witch-hunt. You dont come and post damaging things about people like that. It may be you another day. The guy has written a response. Why not investigate that? Why all the insults to the guy? When 95% of Christians in Nigeria will not do the same? Nigerian's like to force themselves on people too much. That is my opinion anyway. The guy has responded and has proof that he acted according to and within his capacity. The burden of proof is on the OP. Just like Farouk Lawan would have gotten away if Otedola didnt have proof. The time of spreading lies and rumors is gone. People now think clearly. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by murtalaa(m): 3:17pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
What the guy did if true was totally despicable. That being said, Nigerians have perfected a way of whipping up religious sentiment just to achieve their selfish agenda. While its morally right for the consulate to send representation (which going by the post they did despite attempt by the author to rubbish that effort), you should not think it is your right to demand for it. RIP to the deceased , but quit being self-centred and understand that you are not the only Nigerian living in NY. IMO the author has a beef with the consul and is using this incidence to settle a score. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by BetaThings: 3:19pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
2mch: The complainant is a journalist - so he can manipulate us Actually people like the present BH crisis The Consul-General does not go to the church event, he is called a bigot He promises to attend, people are warned not to attend or that he be stopped because he might be carrying a bomb It has become so simple = every christian a saint; every muslim is a terrorist We are making history in social segregation |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by obowunmi(m): 3:20pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
texazzpete: The folks who made the decision to have their kids up at the wee hours of the morning....they are dead. Unless you want to wake them up to be asking questions. Nothing comes between Nigerians and parties. We too like party, plus if you are going to the party to show off your new mercedes benz, even better. Makes the party and the trip more worthwhile. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by obowunmi(m): 3:23pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
murtalaa: What the guy did if true was totally despicable. That being said, Nigerians have perfected a way of whipping up religious sentiment just to achieve their selfish agenda. While its morally right for the consulate to send representation (which going by the post they did despite attempt by the author to rubbish that effort), you should not think it is your right to demand for it. RIP to the deceased , but quit being self-centred and understand that you are not the only Nigerian living in NY. IMO the author has a beef with the consul and is using this incidence to settle a score. Don't believe so. He feels that if American civil servants supported their efforts, why couldn't the consul. It makes sense - aren't they Nigerians? |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by BetaThings: 3:30pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
obowunmi:Is the problem that the consul did not support them, or that rather than attend the church service in person he sent a lowly rep? |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Goddess12: 3:33pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Bark all you want,I'm on a mission to nip the very notion that every thing in nigeria must revolve around ibos and the whole country must bend over backward because of them in the butt. How many bereaved families has the consular visited? if none, This is one of the reasons nigeria is at the bottom of the totem pole. for one ethnic group to be this manipulating, the rest of us need to send a strong message to them and stop treating them with kid gloves. lafad11: |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by justfash50: 3:33pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
@9JADELTA Shut the fhuck up! I repeat shut the fhuck up!! When he knows that he doesn't want to lose d favour of the creator of d universe, why did he accept the job that will make him loose the favor .. See d hypocrisy we are talking about again . Is he the consul of NASfat or amswerudeen ? A consul to a country with many religions, ethnics and believes and u are here saying rubbish People like you she shot in the are for typing rubbish mtchewww angry What is with this abuse, sometimes its better for muslims to keep mum. you want contribution from muslims and this is what they get when they tell u the truth. A conscious muslim will never attend a funeral of a christian.he can delegate a christian associate or send mails etc which i av stated earlier. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Goddess12: 3:36pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
You are just vindictive, when his time comes he will go, I wonder if you would have said the same if he's ibo. 9ja_I_hail: |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by obowunmi(m): 3:38pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
BetaThings: From what I read, sounds like "no one" representing the consul attend the event, nor did any representative make an attempt to "visit" the families. If he had been more proactive in his communication with them, he might be fine. He doesn't just need a secretary. He needs a communications director or a public affairs person. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by 2mch(m): 3:40pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
obowunmi: Did you take the time to read the consul's response? Did you even see it? It is on this thread. Read it first and then come back and comment. He gave a name of the rep he sent. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by dealordea(m): 3:44pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
From what have read so far!!! We all have our different views when it comes to religious and been a muslim, I am more a liberated person and I don't see anything bad extending my condolence greetings to the family of the dead.. The guy would have send a third part to extend condonlence greetings if not he should sack from the duty!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by obowunmi(m): 3:45pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
My brother, Yes I read it. Although I am less inclined to take it seriously because of the English. Where is the proof that the person he sent actually attend the event. There are two sides to the story and the truth. Unfortunately, this will die in the court of public opinion. Would we ever know the truth, the facts?? |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by akbahbah(m): 3:49pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
gboss4sure: Jeez, What has religion got to do with Government?. GEJ should recall and sack that man with immediate effect. I second u buh worth a poo president we have. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by mmmustapha(m): 3:50pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Do ur religion n allow me to do mine dats wat he mean n he follow d teaching of islam,wats wrong wit u guys |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Goddess12: 3:52pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Ogun the god of iron has accepted you as offering he will drink your blood and the blood of your loved ones Asssseeeeeeeeeeeeee, Eyi ti mo wi yi aro ti ro mo. gboss4sure you have now become the dog for ogun onile, may ogun find you wherever you are and spray your blood on the thirstiest road ASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! gboss4sure: |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by 2mch(m): 3:53pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
obowunmi: My brother, Yes I read it. Although I am less inclined to take it seriously because of the English. Where is the proof that the person he sent actually attend the event. That is what i am asking the OP for proof. He brought the allegation, the guy has denied it. So the burden of proof is on him. We dont know them, neither do we know the relationship between the two parties. No one should just come and write tales without proof. That is dangerous. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by juman(m): 3:57pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
This is non issue. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by tunshe: 3:58pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
klax: Pls would you stop this nonsense cartoon of a thing that make no sense? While the cartoon is thought provoking,it's nonsense to you cos you are senseless. |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by akbahbah(m): 3:59pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
bokohalal: The consul-general does not need to attend funerals unless it is a state funeral were he becomes the country's representive. And I believe this was a private funeral. I do not think the Nigerian flag was flying at half mast at the consulate on that day. What is people lyk u doing on nairaland? Don't u av eyes 2 read n brain to process simple information? Dat stupid consul general that is meant to represent Nigerias in NY dnt even send condolence 2 d family of d deceased. Who invited him to d funeral. If MR. President can not act to this then he is purely a retardeen as being called. Is dat islam truely a religion of peace?.. U knw answer ursef Mtewwwww 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Consul-general In New York - "I'm A Muslim, I Cant Enter A Church" by Goddess12: 4:01pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Don't worry your head Mr Habu, we already know that ibos are liars, the day they tell the truth will be a great day. |
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