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Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 5:57pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360:you will in turn pay tithe from the tithes and offering you receive. still waiting for your kweshion |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Goshen360(m): 5:58pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
mkmyers45: Noted, that you are not an Atheist but I never see the tithe for my paypal account. You dey carry me dey play ni? send to goshen360@yahoo.co.uk........am waiting. |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by mkmyers45(m): 5:59pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360: Sirrrr I no reach oooo you no as paypal dey do...na delayed transaction Service to receive pay ![]() ![]() |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by mkmyers45(m): 6:00pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
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Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Goshen360(m): 6:01pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Delafruita: Okay my kweshion......In John 4:24, God is Spirit Now, in Gen. 1:2 says, the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the water. My question is, how can Spirit of Spirit moved on the water considering that God is Spirit. Hence, Genesis 1:2 can be rephrased thus, .....the Spirit of Spirit (God) moved on the face of the waters. Just only this one kweshion sir. |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by MrAnony1(m): 6:04pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
plaetton:You would have to show from scripture that the flood was turbulent, you would also have to show from scripture that fish died. I don't want to answer from silence. Sorry I have already speculated previously but to carry on would be to argue over "could-haves" and things the bible did not say. wirinet: Mkmyers45, let me help you put. The question should be, how did FRESH WATER fishes survive the flood, since 45% of all fishes are fresh water fishes.Again, I will not argue from silence. If it is true that God can destroy the world via the the flood, then it is equally true that He can preserve the fish He wants to keep alive |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by wirinet(m): 6:06pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360: Yes fishes survive in water but fresh water fishes cannot survive 5mins in salty sea water. I have seen the Kuramo beach water from the ocean overflowing into the lagoon waters of the Kuramo and instantly you will see the fishes of the lagoon trying to jump out of the water and within 10mins they are all dead. So unless you postulate that there were no fresh water fishes before Noah's flood, you will have to explain how fresh water fishes and amphibians survived the flood. |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by wirinet(m): 6:11pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: If yahweh can simply preserve the animals he does not want to destroye, then why go through the trouble and shenanigans of building the ark in the first place. |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Goshen360(m): 6:17pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
wirinet: It is called the SUPERNATURAL. You are referring to the natural but God can defile the natural to cause a Supernatural effect. |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by MrAnony1(m): 6:17pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
wirinet:I believe God has the ability to make His decisions the way He chooses. |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 6:28pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360:you didnt complete john4:24.infact to understand that verse,you have to go back to john 4:7.jesus meets the woman of samaria at a well and the discussion progresses to a point where she says in verse 19 "sir i perceive that you are a prophet".she goes ahead to say her fathers worshipped on the mountain but that yeshwa now says jerusalem is the place for worship to which jesus responds "the time is coming when neither on this mountain nor in jerusalem will you worship the father".he goes further in verse 23 "but the hour is coming and now is,when the true worshippers will worship the father in spirit and truth,for such the father seeks to worship him".verse 24 then expands this by saying "god is spirit,those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth". i perceive you assume the phrase "god is spirit" refers to physical attributes however this is just to teach the followers that the worship of god goes beyond the physical things we do.it goes neyond obeying the commandments,it goes beyond camouflaging.god sees our hearts and he wants us to worship him with our body,spirit and soul.the 20 verses pass across one message and you need to read and understand them as been one long sentence.that phrase "god is spirit" cannot be isolated and branded with its own meaning its similar to john 1:1 saying "and the word was god".or other phrases like "the lord is my shield and my buckler" "the lord is a consuming fire" etc. genesis 1:2 could be rendered "....and the WIND of god was moving over the......".the hebrew word "ruach" could and is translated severally in the bible as either wind,spirit,mind or breath.for example exodus 15:10 has the same word "ruach" and its translated as "thou didst blow with thy wind,the sea covered them......." the same word is used in genesis 8:1 and it reads "and god remembered noah and...............and god made a wind blow over the earth......" |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Nobody: 7:23pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
i will ask the following questions again cos they haven't been answered ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Seeing as though everything we, including Christians, enjoy in the modern world is a product of science, why do Christians so fervently deny factual scientific evidence that disproves so many aspects of the bible and their religion as a whole? Why is it that when a Christian is faced with questions that have huge negative implications towards the logic of their faith, they conveniently say that it is in God's plan? Is the scope of their own understanding of the religion and God they have offered their souls to so limited that their only answer is 'God's plan'? Judging by the above mentioned failures, God's plan does not seem to be a very good one. |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 7:30pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
ifeness: i will ask the following questions again cos they haven't been answeredwhat are those scientific evidence that disprove the bible? e: Why is it that when a Christian is faced with questions that have huge negative implications towards the logic of their faith, they conveniently say that it is in God's plan? Is the scope of their own understanding of the religion and God they have offered their souls to so limited that their only answer is 'God's plan'? Judging by the above mentioned failures, God's plan does not seem to be a very good one.it is god's plan for his plan to be good sometimes and bad sometimes |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Nobody: 7:44pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
plaetton: Gen.1:8. And god called the firmament heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.wow |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Nobody: 7:53pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
@delafruita After your Christianity Expiration how are you gona look back at this thread? Victor or Vanquished? |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 8:09pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
diluminati: @delafruitafor every point i have madde on this thread,i know the loophole.i just wanted to get into the shoes of christians and this thread has only served to remind me of the excessive flaws.it makes me pity the christians on this board.they have to defend the undefendable so its no wonder they fall short of expectation. btw my sojourn in christendom expires in about 4hours so......... |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Nobody: 8:15pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Delafruita: i have noticed that a large number of christians on this board always quote from the bible to defend their religion.except for a few like Mr_Anony,buzugee and sometimes truthislight,others just keep quoting solely from the bible.its like they dont have any other source of information about their "savious".despite the onslaugght on yeshwa by atheists,they havent been able to come up with any independent information.you do know that scripture do say that For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight I CORINTHIANS 3 VS 19. scripture also do say For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom 1 CORINTHIANS 1 VS 25. which beggars the question, why will i source mere mortals for info when i can get it from the mouth of the king of kings, the wisdom of Yah, the bible that is ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 8:18pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
obadiah777: you do know that scripture do say that For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight I CORINTHIANS 3 VS 19. scripture also do say For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom 1 CORINTHIANS 1 VS 25. which beggars the question, why will i source mere mortals for info when i can get it from the mouth of the king of kings, the wisdom of Yah, the bible that isif i werent a christian..................... |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Nobody: 8:23pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Delafruita:you aint one. you are a heathen |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Goshen360(m): 8:25pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
@ Delafruita, Okay. I don resume now. Make we continue. The answer you gave to my question was far way off the track. I also need tithe from you too to tell you that answer, ![]() ![]() Back to our discussion on Gen.1:1-2, can we kick off? We will answer the question of how there can be day without the sun and many more. Are you ready now? E be like say the heat don reduce small. |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 8:54pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360: @ Delafruita,lets hear it |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 8:55pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
obadiah777: you aint one. you are a heathenfor the next 3 hours,i am still a christian |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Goshen360(m): 8:58pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Delafruita: Okay. First, When the bible says "In the beginning" of Gen. 1:1 and "In the beginning" of John 1:1, What does the beginning of Gen.1:1 means? Is it the same with that of John 1:1? If not, what is/are the difference? Let's take it one after the other line-by-line. |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Goshen360(m): 9:14pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Where is Delafruita sef, abeg I wan go take a nap o. ~yawning~ |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 9:23pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360:both "in the beginning"s are the same |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 9:24pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360: Where is Delafruita sef, abeg I wan go take a nap o. ~yawning~was taking dinner |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Goshen360(m): 9:35pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Delafruita: That is incorrect. Now let's prove it. The "In the beginning" of John 1:1 antedates the one of Gen. 1:1. Let us prove it line-by-line. |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 9:37pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360: Where is Delafruita sef, abeg I wan go take a nap o. ~yawning~also watching the US open |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by MrAnony1(m): 9:40pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360:my interest has been spiked..........please continue |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Goshen360(m): 9:43pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 That of Genesis talks about time, space and matter - In the beginning (time); the heavens (space) and matter (earth). That of John 1:1 refers to dateless past or eternity for it speaks of Jesus in his pre-existence WITH GOD. John did not find a word to use, hence he said in the beginning. Now, put both together and you will realize John 1:1 antedates Gen. 1:1 because when Gen. 1:1 first mentioned God, it will therefore mean God existed before He could create and John 1:1 told us the Word was WITH GOD and this Word is God. This is why the word God which is "Elohim" in Hebrew is plural but not as Gods because the verb construction is singular. So Gen. 1:1 is simply referring to "TIME" when the heavens and the earth was created. Do you agree with this explanation before I proceed ? |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 9:45pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360:this should be interesting |
Re: I Will Be A Nairaland Christian For The Next 36hours by Delafruita(m): 9:49pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
Goshen360: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1i dont agree with this.on what basis do you assume that john didnt know what word to use?wasnt the bible inspired by god? |
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