Mr_Anony:
Lol, @Goshen, About the bolded, I fit consider o. As my brother don turn down the request.

Which offer did he turn down naw? I can't see him turning down the offer abi I no catch the revelation ni? Abi Mr. Anony wan play sharp-man here

Goshen360:

Which offer did he turn down naw? I can't see him turning down the offer abi I no catch the revelation ni? Abi Mr. Anony wan play sharp-man here

Omo no time o! opportunity no dey come twice o! Abi you get two sisters make we settle matter?

Mr_Anony:
Omo no time o! opportunity no dey come twice o! Abi you get two sisters make we settle matter?

Maybe you need to quote one or two scriptures to tie my hands then I will see what I can do about it - maybe I will slide-line brother Ihedinobi (please make it secret o, no let brother Ihedinobi hear about it say I wan slide-line him o, abeg you o) You know say na so "some" inlaws and omo onile dey do. Abi no be so

Mr_Anony:
Lol, @Goshen, About the bolded, I fit consider o. As my brother don turn down the request.

Badt guyz na

See diz badt niggiz o.......I de hear every o.......come, Oga Goshen, confirm say na two sista yo get o. Me and ma twin no go fight o. And you no fit to fall ma hand o. You try am, I go jus tell Popsy for you. I no de play o

You guys are having fun; nice one.

@Goshen360, so where do dinasaurs fit in?

Goshen360: Where is Joagbaje to answer my kweshions?

I get programme. I dey win souls. If God permit me tomorrow ,I will attend to you.

SNCOQ3: @Goshen360, so where do dinasaurs fit in?

Where do they not?

this is what i have heard. ok a day to the lord is 1000 years. so when it says he created the earth in 6 days, that was 6000 years. then if you follow genealogy from adam to present day, thats another 6000 plus years. so the earth is 12000 plus years. this is not an argument i am presenting. its simply an opinion from someone

Ihedinobi: See diz badt niggiz o.......I de hear every o.......come, Oga Goshen, confirm say na two sista yo get o. Me and ma twin no go fight o. And you no fit to fall ma hand o. You try am, I go jus tell Popsy for you. I no de play o

Bros no worry, we no go fight. In fact, I no dey marry again. Falcao don punish my Chelsea.........make I go cry for inside house

Ihedinobi:

Where do they not?

I want to know where the existence of dinasaurs fit into the 'young earth' theory. the question is for Goshen360 but your contribution is welcomed.

Mr_Anony:
Bros no worry, we no go fight. In fact, I no dey marry again. Falcao don punish my Chelsea.........make I go cry for inside house

Eya Why you go de root for Chelsea na? You for follow me de root for Arsenal. If you win, you do thanksgiving. If you no win, na normal tin. No heartbreak for Arsenal o

SNCOQ3:

I want to know where the existence of dinasaurs fit into the 'young earth' theory. the question is for Goshen360 but your contribution is welcomed.

I'm sorry I jumped in so unceremoniously. I do understand your question, but I don't see why you think dinosaurs don't fit into the young earth theory. That's why I asked.

Goshen360:

Welcome on board. It does make any sense whatsoever for the gap theory to explain the age of the earth. That is heresy. The bible doesn't say there was ANY pre-Adamic age neither was there ANY gap between Genesis 1:1-2. This is reason for this thread.....let's prove it.

Subscribing.

mkmyers45:

and let us not forget that one 'OLAADEGBU' once claimed on this forum that the 'Holy Spirit' revealed to him that the world was created in 6 earth days....

Old members here will remember this...Can't find the link yet

What was your old ID? Because I can't remember reading from you.

SNCOQ3: @Goshen360, so where do dinasaurs fit in?

If the bible doesn't say anything about it, I'm sorry, I don't have answer to it.

Ne comprenez-vous?

^ Fair enough; Good morning.

^ Now, I really wish you'd indicated what's wrong with the picture of dinosaurs in a young earth. I don't know if your problem with the picture is the same as the one I once had: that dinosaurs were synonymous with evolution given that they've disappeared, but there's evidence of their existence in rock strata.

This was a silly assumption by me, but I don't think it's evolution that's your problem. Perhaps it's the fact that there's evidence that some really interesting animals once existed but are nowhere to be found today.

If that's the problem, there's no need to go ahead and assume an old earth to accommodate their existence. Between the end of the Second World War and today, some species have gone extinct. It is a fact of science that the number of species currently in existence are a small percentage of the number that once existed. Millions of years aren't needed for species to vanish, just a handful of men with inordinately large appetites and an attendant poor sense of responsibility. Current times prove this out.

I'm not sure if I have answered your question about dinosaurs. I was hoping you'd clarify what your problem was.

Joagbaje:

I get programme. I dey win souls. If God permit me tomorrow ,I will attend to you.

and probably raising a few of the dead

Ihedinobi:

Eya Why you go de root for Chelsea na? You for follow me de root for Arsenal. If you win, you do thanksgiving. If you no win, na normal tin. No heartbreak for Arsenal o

no mind them.abrahamovich buy chelsea,all of then run go the "billionaire's club".

Ihedinobi:

I'm sorry I jumped in so unceremoniously. I do understand your question, but I don't see why you think dinosaurs don't fit into the young earth theory. That's why I asked.

Apology accepted. As for the 'bolded'; you clearly misunderstood the intent of my question. The existence of dinasaurs could 'swing' either way- big monsters like leviathan and behemoth were mentioned in the bible when there are human inhabitants. Pls, note that as for me; this is not about 'winning' a debate so the idea of holding onto a theory stubbornly- to prove a point does not suffice....after all, its a theory, not a doctrine.

Goshen360:

If the bible doesn't say anything about it, I'm sorry, I don't have answer to it.

Ne comprenez-vous?

classic Goshen360 excuse."if its not in the bible,it either didnt happen or i have no answer to it".i told you earlier,the gap theory is the only sensible explanation that could align the bible with reality.all other theories like the "1day in heaven is like 1000years on earth" are just bullcrap.does that mean judgement day is equal to judgement "1000years"?

Ihedinobi: ^ Now, I really wish you'd indicated what's wrong with the picture of dinosaurs in a young earth. I don't know if your problem with the picture is the same as the one I once had: that dinosaurs were synonymous with evolution given that they've disappeared, but there's evidence of their existence in rock strata.

This was a silly assumption by me, but I don't think it's evolution that's your problem. Perhaps it's the fact that there's evidence that some really interesting animals once existed but are nowhere to be found today.

If that's the problem, there's no need to go ahead and assume an old earth to accommodate their existence. Between the end of the Second World War and today, some species have gone extinct. It is a fact of science that the number of species currently in existence are a small percentage of the number that once existed. Millions of years aren't needed for species to vanish, just a handful of men with inordinately large appetites and an attendant poor sense of responsibility. Current times prove this out.

as in seriously,dinosaurs existed within the same timeframe as man?as in species disappeared between the second world war and today and thats meant to lend credence to the arguments for a young earth?if archeologists could dig up clay pots used during the time when joshua conquered jericho and date the pots to accurately align with the time joshua supposedly conquered jericho,why then would their dating method and accuracy be called into question when it comes to fossil record?

i believe that in about 2-3 years,we should have more information on how the universe came into existence.the NASA rover "curiosity" is expected to help with that and coupled with the information already available from Hubble,it seems science is close to discovering with certainty how the universe came into being

I'm not sure if I have answered your question about dinosaurs. I was hoping you'd clarify what your problem was.[/quote]

Delafruita:
as in seriously,dinosaurs existed within the same timeframe as man?as in species disappeared between the second world war and today and thats meant to lend credence to the arguments for a young earth?if archeologists could dig up clay pots used during the time when joshua conquered jericho and date the pots to accurately align with the time joshua supposedly conquered jericho,why then would their dating method and accuracy be called into question when it comes to fossil record?

I really can't see what's wrong with a picture having both man and dinosaur on earth at the same time. What's wrong with it?

What I hoped to show with the indication of extinction of species within a period of about 66yrs is that extinction can occur very fast. One day a species is in abundance and flourishing, the next time you look, numbers have dwindled. You look again and they've vanished. It's not a process that needs millions of years to happen.

As for radiometric dating, as I believe it's called, it's had enough false assumptions that led to erratic dating in the past and appears to be prompting enough debate in the scientific community for me to call it into question. I also know nothing about dating of clay pots used in Joshua's time. I've heard of archaeological finds that were dated, and because of the conflict I was conscious of in the returns from different dating techniques, I have never received them as conclusive.

Ihedinobi: ^ Now, I really wish you'd indicated what's wrong with the picture of dinosaurs in a young earth. I don't know if your problem with the picture is the same as the one I once had: that dinosaurs were synonymous with evolution given that they've disappeared, but there's evidence of their existence in rock strata.

Nothing wrong- Its a possibility. Adam & Eve were just in a garden and there are enough space like other continents for dinosaurs to play around. I raised the question to know how Goshen is going to accommodate it in his argument...I was going somewhere before you interrupted me

This was a silly assumption by me, but I don't think it's evolution that's your problem. Perhaps it's the fact that there's evidence that some really interesting animals once existed but are nowhere to be found today.

'gap' does not necessarily support ID's version of evolution. Darwinian evolution is nonsensical; micro-evolution(transition within species in medium term)is valid and does not lend credence to macro-evolution. I believe in a literal six day creation but i think the idea of 'gap' between Gen 1:1 and Gen1:2 -with all this scientific dating stuff, is worth considering given that their might be an accommodation for it in the bible.

If that's the problem, there's no need to go ahead and assume an old earth to accommodate their existence. Between the end of the Second World War and today, some species have gone extinct. It is a fact of science that the number of species currently in existence are a small percentage of the number that once existed. Millions of years aren't needed for species to vanish, just a handful of men with inordinately large appetites and an attendant poor sense of responsibility. Current times prove this out.

I don't remotely believe in 'gradual extinction' of dinosaurs. I believe it was catastrophic. Was it pre-Adamic?... When God cursed nature due to Adam's fall?... Noah's flood?...i am open to learning on the condition that you won't be stamping 'heresy' on gap theory like Goshen360 has if my salvation depends on it.

I'm not sure if I have answered your question about dinosaurs. I was hoping you'd clarify what your problem was.

With you, I'd rather start with dating. Since you're a scientist, i'd like you to shed more light on geological dating as regards the age of the earth.

^ Wow...I'm a scientist hehehe.... Yeah, I did say on a thread that I'm one, but necessarily in my attitude to information and knowledge. Anyhow, I'm currently investigating available information of radiometric dating techniques or methods. So, I'll take a bit to get to it. I don't want to pop the cherry b'fore it's ripe.

I'm sorry if I interrupted your flow about the dinosaurs. I actually don't think a catastrophe like the Flood or any pre-Adamic event was necessary for species extinction. For the Flood which is clear in the Bible, Noah preserved every living creature. That must have necessarily included them, but considering man's natural impulse to consume, their habitat was probably destroyed. Add to that destructive hunting methods and you get close to a plausible explanation for the unavailability of species such as them.

And no, I understand when people question certain interpretations of the Bible especially in light of available scientific evidence. Especially when those interpretations appear to explain apparent silence on issues on the Bible's part. I only ask that when one does so, they should do it knowing what the entire Bible has said in relation to the matter under study.

(edited)

^ Fair enough.
On a second thought, I think it noteworthy that God mentioned 'Leviathan and Behemoth' to Job ( Post-Noah).

Ihedinobi: ^ Now, I really wish you'd indicated what's wrong with the picture of dinosaurs in a young earth. I don't know if your problem with the picture is the same as the one I once had: that dinosaurs were synonymous with evolution given that they've disappeared, but there's evidence of their existence in rock strata.

This was a silly assumption by me, but I don't think it's evolution that's your problem. Perhaps it's the fact that there's evidence that some really interesting animals once existed but are nowhere to be found today.

If that's the problem, there's no need to go ahead and assume an old earth to accommodate their existence. Between the end of the Second World War and today, some species have gone extinct. It is a fact of science that the number of species currently in existence are a small percentage of the number that once existed. Millions of years aren't needed for species to vanish, just a handful of men with inordinately large appetites and an attendant poor sense of responsibility. Current times prove this out.

I'm not sure if I have answered your question about dinosaurs. I was hoping you'd clarify what your problem was.

^^^^
hmmmm!

That was beautifully done.

Delafruita:
classic Goshen360 excuse."if its not in the bible,it either didnt happen or i have no answer to it".i told you earlier,the gap theory is the only sensible explanation that could align the bible with reality.all other theories like the "1day in heaven is like 1000years on earth" are just bullcrap.does that mean judgement day is equal to judgement "1000years"?

yes.

Revelation 20:1-4

judgement day

Delafruita:
as in seriously,dinosaurs existed within the same timeframe as man?as in species disappeared between the second world war and today and thats meant to lend credence to the arguments for a young earth?if archeologists could dig up clay pots used during the time when joshua conquered jericho and date the pots to accurately align with the time joshua supposedly conquered jericho,why then would their dating method and accuracy be called into question when it comes to fossil record?

i believe that in about 2-3 years,we should have more information on how the universe came into existence.the NASA rover "curiosity" is expected to help with that and coupled with the information already available from Hubble,it seems science is close to discovering with certainty how the universe came into being

I'm not sure if I have answered your question about dinosaurs. I was hoping you'd clarify what your problem was.

Good.

Science has been useful,

science has been harmful.

Science has said the truth/facts

science has LIED

lets us use our heads/brain

Ihedinobi:

I really can't see what's wrong with a picture having both man and dinosaur on earth at the same time. What's wrong with it?

What I hoped to show with the indication of extinction of species within a period of about 66yrs is that extinction can occur very fast. One day a species is in abundance and flourishing, the next time you look, numbers have dwindled. You look again and they've vanished. It's not a process that needs millions of years to happen.

As for radiometric dating, as I believe it's called, it's had enough false assumptions that led to erratic dating in the past and appears to be prompting enough debate in the scientific community for me to call it into question. I also know nothing about dating of clay pots used in Joshua's time. I've heard of archaeological finds that were dated, and because of the conflict I was conscious of in the returns from different dating techniques, I have never received them as conclusive.

why cant they fit in with man?

We have different species on earth and they dont always lived in the same geographical locations.

So, if we all came out from a common ancestor, it then means that all part of planet earth was not always this populated.
If you know what i mean.

I cant see anything wrong with the two living together.