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Re: Obama For President? by somze(f): 11:54am On Jan 23, 2008 |
Horus:Why dont you do your own research before accusing me of lying? You probably did not watch the debate Truthman:Thanks man Horus, Consider the link below Well, I can't tell who I'm running against sometimes," Obama countered.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080122/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_debate |
Re: Obama For President? by Iman3(m): 3:15pm On Jan 23, 2008 |
Hillary Clinton will undoubtedly lose the South Carolina primary as African-Americans line up to vote for Barack Obama. And that defeat will power her drive to the nomination. The Clintons are encouraging the national media to disregard the whites who vote in South Carolina's Democratic primary and focus on the black turnout, which is expected to be quite large. They have transformed South Carolina into Washington, D.C. -- an all-black primary that tells us how the African-American vote is going to go. By saying he will go door to door in black neighborhoods in South Carolina matching his civil rights record against Obama's, Bill Clinton emphasizes the pivotal role the black vote will play in the contest. And by openly matching his record on race with that of the black candidate, he invites more and more scrutiny focused on the race issue. Of course, Clinton is going to lose that battle. Blacks in Nevada overwhelmingly backed Obama and will obviously do so again in South Carolina, no matter how loudly former President Clinton protests. So why is he making such a fuss over a contest he knows he's going to lose? Precisely because he is going to lose it. If Hillary loses South Carolina and the defeat serves to demonstrate Obama's ability to attract a bloc vote among black Democrats, the message will go out loud and clear to white voters that this is a racial fight. It's one thing for polls to show, as they now do, that Obama beats Hillary among African-Americans by better than 4-to-1 and Hillary carries whites by almost 2-to-1. But most people don't read the fine print on the polls. But if blacks deliver South Carolina to Obama, everybody will know that they are bloc-voting. That will trigger a massive white backlash against Obama and will drive white voters to Hillary Clinton. Obama has done everything he possibly could to keep race out of this election. And the Clintons attracted national scorn when they tried to bring it back in by attempting to minimize the role Martin Luther King Jr. played in the civil rights movement. But here they have a way of appearing to seek the black vote, losing it, and getting their white backlash, all without any fingerprints showing. The more President Clinton begs black voters to back his wife, and the more they spurn her, the more the election becomes about race -- and Obama ultimately loses. Because they have such plans for South Carolina, the Clintons were desperate to win in Nevada. They dared not lose two primaries in a row leading up to Florida. But now they can lose South Carolina with impunity, having won in Nevada. But don't look for them to walk away from South Carolina. Their love needs to appear to have been unrequited by the black community for their rejection to seem so unfair that it triggers a white backlash. In this kind of ricochet politics, you have to lose openly and publicly in order to win the next round. And since the next round consists of all the important and big states, polarizing the contest into whites versus blacks will work just fine for Hillary. Of course, this begs the question of how she will be able to attract blacks after beating Obama. Here the South Carolina strategy also serves its purpose. If she loses blacks and wins whites by attacking Obama, it will look dirty and underhanded to blacks. She'll develop a real problem in the minority community. But if she is seen as being rejected by minority voters in favor of Obama after going hat in hand to them and trying to out-civil rights Obama, blacks will even likely feel guilty about rejecting Hillary and will be more than willing to support her in the general election. Morris, a former political adviser to Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and President Bill Clinton, is the author of “Outrage.” To get all of Dick Morris’s and Eileen McGann’s columns for free by email, go to http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/01/how_clinton_will_win_the_nomin.html |
Re: Obama For President? by Iman3(m): 3:19pm On Jan 23, 2008 |
For those who are desperately clutching on to the delegates issue in support of Obama.Clinton leads Obama in that count by 236 to 152-http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html Even if Edwards delegates all go for Obama,Clinton still leads. |
Re: Obama For President? by McKren(m): 4:20pm On Jan 23, 2008 |
Delegate Count At this point it makes more sense counting the delegates awarded after election in each state. Going by that Obama leads 38 against Clinton's 36. Clinton is leading on that table because she got more super delegates who endorsed her based on the misguided belief before elections that she is the inevitable candidate. That high value of super delegates may erode before National Convention. One trend you will not overlook is Obama's incremental and one state at a time approach to this election. See how double digit poll leads by clinton in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada many months before election shrunk on the eve of election. Anything can happen in Febuary 5. (Obama is doing just fine) |
Re: Obama For President? by simmy(m): 4:22pm On Jan 23, 2008 |
when will u all learn that a black man will NEVER rule the unnited states, Obama is causing a stir because he is an exceptionl character/ if he had been any other skin clolur especially white he would undoubtedly had been the favourite to win |
Re: Obama For President? by Horus(m): 9:54pm On Jan 23, 2008 |
Mrs Obama: Blacks Inferiority Complex sabotaging Barack Obama! Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzYl8Rg8C0&feature=related |
Re: Obama For President? by davotico: 12:16pm On Jan 25, 2008 |
eldee the fact that you stay in the uk doesnt mean that you are absolutely sure that obama wont win remember the are going to south carolina today .south carolina is filled with black people so just keep your fingers crossed |
Re: Obama For President? by Horus(m): 2:24am On Jan 27, 2008 |
Barack Obama wins South Carolina Barack Obama has won the South Carolina Democratic primary by a substantial margin, the Associated Press and cable networks reported Saturday night based on exit polls.It remains unclear whether Hillary Rodham Clinton or John Edwards will place second in the state. Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.), the dean of black South Carolina politicians, who was neutral in the race, said voters in his state rejected racial questions raised in the last days of the campaign. "I really believe in the last 48 hours, the voters recoiled," he said on MSNBC. "They decided to reject the racial animus that seemed to be happening." [img]http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/02/09/W_OBAMA_wideweb__470x287,0.jpg[/img] Obama won 81 percent of black voters and 24 percent of the white vote. Clinton took 17 percent of the black vote and 36 percent of the white vote and John Edwards 29 percent of the white vote and just 1 percent of the black vote, according to exit polls reported on MSNBC. According to exit polls, half the electorate felt the economy is the most important issue facing the nation. South Carolina's primary, the last for Democrats before two dozen states vote Feb. 5, saw Obama and Clinton battle in the most divisive effort so far in the presidential campaign. ![]() Exit polls show South Carolina Democrats placed more importance on the economy than did New Hampshire voters. About 1 in 5 South Carolinians selected Iraq as the most important issue and a quarter picked health care.Three in four voters said the nation is ready to elect either an African American or a woman president.Not surprisingly, 3 in 4 Obama voters said Clinton attacked Obama unfairly during the campaign and slightly fewer than half accused their own candidate of attacking Clinton unfairly. Also, two-thirds of Clinton voters said Obama attacked her unfairly and nearly as many said she attacked him unfairly.Edwards, the former North Carolina senator, was well behind Clinton and Obama in pre-election polls but hoped the bad blood between the two front-runners would send voters his way.But the attacks likely didn't keep voters from the polls. Carol Fowler, the state's Democratic chairwoman, told MSNBC Saturday afternoon that the state was experiencing record turnout without significant problems.Polls showed Obama, the Illinois senator, and Clinton, the New York senator, divided South Carolina's voters along racial lines. Obama held a large lead among the state's black voters, who comprise about half the electorate, and Clinton and Edwards were expected to take the vast majority of the white vote.Obama campaigned Saturday morning in Columbia at a black Baptist church and at Benedict College, a historically black school. Clinton and her daughter, Chelsea, greeted voters at a Shoney's restaurant in Columbia."There's talk about being prepared on day one," Obama said in an interview with NBC's Today Show Saturday morning. "What we really need is somebody who's right on day one."Meanwhile, former President Bill Clinton mocked Obama's message of change at a diner in Columbia. "Since a hundred percent of medical malpractice is committed by doctors, next time you need surgery, go to an electrician," the former president said after a breakfast of grits, coffee and three helpings of eggs.In Mount Pleasant, Edwards stopped at a café and a polling place, where he admitted he is unlikely to win the state but still hopes to win the party's nomination.Edwards tried to take advantage of the attacks flying between Clinton and Obama during a midweek appearance on "The Late Show with David Letterman." Edwards said he hoped to represent "the grown-up wing of the Democratic Party."South Carolina has 54 delegates to August's Democratic National Convention, 45 of which are at stake Saturday.It is also the first primary state with a large black population. A Democrat needs 2,025 of 4,049 delegates to win the nomination. Clinton, of New York, so far has 210 delegates, Obama, of Illinois, has 123 and Edwards has 52, according to delegate counts done by CNN and the greenpages.com, a nonpartisan Web site that compiles election statistics. After election contests in largely-white Iowa and New Hampshire and Nevada, which has a large Latino but tiny black population, race dominated the week's news from South Carolina.Obama and Clinton engaged in the most bitter debate of the campaign Monday night in Myrtle Beach and the two squabbled over comments made by Bill Clinton. Sen. Clinton and Obama swapped accusatory radio commercials earlier in the week.The former first lady aired an ad saying Obama had once approved of Republican ideas. His camp responded quickly: "Hillary Clinton will say anything to get elected." First she, then he, pulled the commercials after a couple of days.Obama Saturday won endorsements from the editorial boards of the Philadelphia Inquirer and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Missouri and Illinois, where the Post-Dispatch circulates, are two of nearly two dozen states voting Feb. 5.The Inquirer's endorsement could influence voters in New Jersey and Delaware, which also vote Feb. 5. Pennsylvania does not vote until April.Clinton hopes to become the first woman to occupy the White House, and Obama is the strongest black contender in history. Source: http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-usmain0127,0,7789713.story [ |
Re: Obama For President? by simmy(m): 11:08am On Jan 27, 2008 |
despite the complex analysis, its obvious that american voters are doing exactly opposite what they claim to be doing, there voting by RACE! just look 84% blacks voted obama, only 17% voted clinton, 36% whites voted clinton to 24% for obama. White voters voted edwards over obama! |
Re: Obama For President? by Dawid: 11:14am On Jan 27, 2008 |
simmy: it was only a matter of time . . . try as much as we like to hide it, race is an important factor in this race and Clinton is milking it for all its worth. Notice how she left for Tennessee even b4 the votes in SC had been fully collated . . . the message could not have been clearer . . . they are discounting the results in SC on the basis that Obama merely won on the back of black voters. |
Re: Obama For President? by seabiotics(m): 3:53pm On Jan 27, 2008 |
Dawid, You are right. It is becoming more evident that the election is about race. How far this will get Obame, though, is what we don't know yet. But write Hilary off at your peril. The deciding factor will be February. It sure will be interesting. |
Re: Obama For President? by jaguarB: 4:08pm On Jan 27, 2008 |
well the chances for Obama are high. the truth is that he is in serious competetion with hillary clinton If he should outstand Clinton then sure he would win |
Re: Obama For President? by Horus(m): 10:09pm On Jan 27, 2008 |
Caroline Kennedy, daughter of President John F. Kennedy, endorses Barack Obama: "Over the years," she writes, "I've been deeply moved by the people who've told me they wished they could feel inspired and hopeful about America the way people did when my father was president. This sense is even more profound today. That is why I am supporting a presidential candidate in the Democratic primaries, Barack Obama." More: "I want a president who understands that his responsibility is to articulate a vision and encourage others to achieve it; who holds himself, and those around him, to the highest ethical standards; who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American Dream, and those around the world who still believe in the American ideal; and who can lift our spirits, and make us believe again that our country needs every one of us to get involved." "I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans. Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/26/politics/horserace/entry3755554.shtml ![]() |
Re: Obama For President? by McKren(m): 10:20am On Jan 28, 2008 |
seabiotics: John Edwards might decide the race. |
Re: Obama For President? by telltoo: 10:25am On Jan 29, 2008 |
look! it s obvious Obama will not and cannot win! the white majority will vote Clinton in, the stir obama is causing is due to his charismatic personality, poeple like obama are only setting the ground for a black president in the future, a very distant future |
Re: Obama For President? by Horus(m): 1:20pm On Jan 29, 2008 |
Barack Obama accepts the Kennedy endorsements. Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-mL_iIoss&feature=related |
Re: Obama For President? by Horus(m): 8:36pm On Jan 29, 2008 |
Kansas governor endorses Barack Obama Kansas Governor. Kathleen Sebelius is endorsing Sen. Barack Obama's bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, according to the Associated Press. "I think he represents the kind of leader that we need for the future of the country," Sebelius tells the wire service. "I think he brings the hope and optimism that we really need to restore our place in the world, as well as to bring this country together and really tackle the challenges that we have." Sebelius announced the highly anticipated endorsement one day after she delivered the Democratic response to President Bush's State of the Union address. Kansas Democrats will make their choices known during caucuses on Feb. 5, or Super Tuesday. Source: http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/01/kansas-governor.html |
Re: Obama For President? by Horus(m): 7:34pm On Jan 31, 2008 |
Obama's run 'extraordinary' NEW YORK: Former president Jimmy Carter praised Barack Obama's run for the White House as "extraordinary" and potentially healing in an interview in The Wall Street Journal.The elder statesman of the Democratic party also revealed that he had also spoken at length with former president Bill Clinton about his involvement in the 2008 presidential race."Obama's campaign has been extraordinary and titillating for me and my family," Carter said. Source: http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=207386&Sn=WORL&IssueID=30317 |
Re: Obama For President? by Iman3(m): 9:22pm On Feb 04, 2008 |
With polls showing Obama rapidly closing in on Clinton's lead,ahead in a few.Clinton has resorted to the tried and tested tactics of shedding a few tears.This "lachrymose" strategy helped dig her out of a hole the last time,will it work now? NEW HAVEN, Conn. – Sen. Hillary Clinton teared up this morning at an event at the Yale Child Study Center, where she worked while in law school in the early 1970s. http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/clinton_crys_in_connecticut.html |
Re: Obama For President? by McKren(m): 11:18pm On Feb 04, 2008 |
Lol, this time arround, crying and sending false mails wont do. The Clintons should simply appeal for more votes no curning tactics will work, the Obama camp has succeeded in bringing to the fore the "do anything or say anything" to win an election policy of the Clinton political machine. Americans are very much aware. |
Re: Obama For President? by seabiotics(m): 11:07am On Feb 05, 2008 |
Posted by: McKren McKren, You are right on the button there. But I would say it's still very much a close call between those two. Even the aftermath of the "Super Tuesday" primary elections still won't be able to separate them. But isn't it conforting news that after the Kennedy clan came out to voice their support for Obama, other stars such as Oprah and George Clooney have joined the Obama bandwagon. Oprah was quick to dispel the notion that she wasn't just voting for Obama because "he was black but because he is brilliant". Talk about being vague. Perhaps America is gradually waking up to the reality that this rather increasing primary elections between the Democrats is not about race after all. "Super Tuesday" will sure shed more light on this. |
Re: Obama For President? by Iman3(m): 3:24pm On Feb 05, 2008 |
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama surged to a big lead over Hillary Clinton in California hours before "Super Tuesday" voting began in 24 states, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Tuesday. http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0345866120080205?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true |
Re: Obama For President? by bawomol(m): 4:53pm On Feb 05, 2008 |
Hillary shall prevail. |
Re: Obama For President? by away4real(m): 6:02pm On Feb 05, 2008 |
Oh please not again. I respect Hillary as a competent person but please this is so manipulative, cry when it seems u are down, cry when u are in front of the cameras. If i was a woman i will feel slighted, women cry to be treated fairly and then when the heat is on she decides to manipulate people and lean towards the femminist soft side, thats just the height of manipulation. I can't remember her weeping during the lewinsky saga and that was a family affair where passion comes naturally but no it didnt but hey when there seems to be a balance between u and your opponent she weeps again. Hillary shall prevail through tears. If America votes for her, then America deserves the leader they get. Its obvious that the Obama campaign was right HRC would do and say anything to get elected. We think Bush is a case, God help America when she becomes president. |
Re: Obama For President? by Horus(m): 11:35am On Feb 06, 2008 |
Barack Obama Super Tuesday Speech Part 1 Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KS94D2tmPYo Barack Obama Super Tuesday Speech Part 2 Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=R7XvClt6hdE |
Re: Obama For President? by EmekaNaija(m): 6:59pm On Feb 06, 2008 |
The cynics are now believing in the electability of Obama. Nationally, Obama is at par with Clinton and going by his victory across more states (13) and his narrow losses to Clinton's 8 states, it is obvious that the winds are in d sails of Barak Obama. If you havent joined this train, please do because change is coming to America. Seeing the caucuse and primaries makes one see that Nigeria is still joking with democracy. We are simply practising civilian rule. I hope the electoral reform commitee is watching to see what it means to say that power belongs to the people. |
Re: Obama For President? by rosa70: 9:08pm On Feb 06, 2008 |
Any person who is black that just votes for a black person for president is just stupid. As just as a woman to vote for a woman because she's a woman is stupid. Dumb voting! What ever happened to seeking out the right person to do the job instead of their race or sex. |
Re: Obama For President? by Horus(m): 9:20pm On Feb 06, 2008 |
Obama won more delegate Feb 6, 2008 In a surprise twist after a chaotic Super Tuesday, Sen. Barack Obama passed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) in network tallies of the number of delegates the candidates racked up last night. The Obama camp now projects topping Clinton by 13 delegates, 847 to 834. NBC News, which is projecting delegates based on the Democratic Party's complex formula, figures Obama will wind up with 840 to 849 delegates, versus 829 to 838 for Clinton. ![]() With the delegate count still under way, NBC News said Obama appears to have won around 840 delegates in yesterday’s contests, while Clinton earned about 830. Clinton was portrayed in many news accounts as the night’s big winner, but Obama’s campaign says he wound up with a higher total where it really counts the delegates who will choose the party’s nominee at this summer’s Democratic convention. With the delegate count still under way, NBC News said Obama appears to have won around 840 delegates in yesterday’s contests, while Clinton earned about[b] 830[/b] — “give or take a few,” Tim Russert, the network’s Washington bureau chief, said on the “Today” show. The running totals for the two, which includes previous contests and the party officials known as “superdelegates,” are only about 70 delegates apart, Russert said. The bottom line is that the two are virtually tied.Obama won 13 states, some of them smaller, and Clinton won eight. On Wednesday morning, the battle was on to shape public perceptions about Tuesday. The Clinton campaign said it was crunching its delegate numbers but was not sure it was correct that Obama got more. The Obama campaign sent an e-mailed statement titled: “Obama wins Super Tuesday by winning more states and more delegates.” Campaign Manager David Plouffe said: “By winning a majority of delegates and a majority of the states, Barack Obama won an important Super Tuesday victory over Sen. Clinton in the closest thing we have to a national primary.” “From Colorado and Utah in the West to Georgia and Alabama in the South to Sen. Clinton’s backyard in Connecticut, Obama showed that he can win the support of Americans of every race, gender and political party in every region of the country,” Plouffe said. “That’s why he’s on track to win Democratic nomination, and that’s why he’s the best candidate to defeat John McCain in November.” The Obama campaign attached an Excel spreadsheet containing “state-by-state estimates of the pledged delegates we won last night, which total 845 for Obama and 836 for Clinton,bringing the to-date total of delegates to 908 for Obama, 884 for Clinton.” Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8358.html |
Re: Obama For President? by RichyBlacK(m): 12:54pm On Feb 07, 2008 |
[flash=450,370] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY&rel=1[/flash] [b]It was a creed written into the founding documents that declared the destiny of a nation. Yes we can. It was whispered by slaves and abolitionists as they blazed a trail toward freedom. Yes we can. It was sung by immigrants as they struck out from distant shores and pioneers who pushed westward against an unforgiving wilderness. Yes we can. It was the call of workers who organized; women who reached for the ballots; a President who chose the moon as our new frontier; and a King who took us to the mountaintop and pointed the way to the Promised Land. Yes we can to justice and equality. Yes we can to opportunity and prosperity. Yes we can heal this nation. Yes we can repair this world. Yes we can. We know the battle ahead will be long, but always remember that no matter what obstacles stand in our way, nothing can stand in the way of the power of millions of voices calling for change. We have been told we cannot do this by a chorus of cynics, they will only grow louder and more dissonant , We've been asked to pause for a reality check. We've been warned against offering the people of this nation false hope. But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope. Now the hopes of the little girl who goes to a crumbling school in Dillon are the same as the dreams of the boy who learns on the streets of LA; we will remember that there is something happening in America; that we are not as divided as our politics suggests; that we are one people; we are one nation; and together, we will begin the next great chapter in the American story with three words that will ring from coast to coast; from sea to shining sea -- Yes. We. Can.[/b] |
Re: Obama For President? by Horus(m): 12:03pm On Feb 11, 2008 |
WITH MAINE OBAMA SURPASSES CLINTON IN DELEGATES (AGI) - New York, 11 Feb - After his fifth victory in 24 hours, Barack Obama is flying high. According to the US network CBS calculations, the African-American senator has just passed his rival: after the Maine caucus, Obama reached 1,134 compared with Cliton's 1,131 in total delegates and superdelgates. At stake in the state of Maine were 34 delegates (10 of whom "super" ![]() Source: http://www.agi.it/world/news/200802111124-pol-ren0020-art.html |
Re: Obama For President? by Blatant: 2:49pm On Feb 11, 2008 |
Is McCain not going to be the next US president? |
Re: Obama For President? by ndubest(m): 4:26pm On Feb 11, 2008 |
Blatant: U wish ![]() ![]() Obama is on fire |
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