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Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 10:12pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
obadiah777: BROTHER YOU NEED TO GET INTO THE ETYMOLOGY OF WORDS. THESE ARE THE SECRETS TO A LOT OF BIBLICAL SECRETS. THATS WHY YOU ERR. BEHIND THE NAMES ARE THE SECRETS. 'MICHEAL' MEANS 'WHO IS LIKE GOD'. THERE IS A REASON THE NAME WAS USED. BECAUSE THERE IS NO ONE LIKE GOD. AND WHO WOULD HAVE A NAME LIKE THAT ? ONLY GOD. HE IS THE ARCHANGEL. THE HEAD OF ALL THE ANGELS. CANT YOU SEE THAT ? SCRIPTURE SAYS Micah means "Who is like Yah", Yah being short for Yahweh. Guess Prophet Micah was Yahweh too. Or Daniel that means "God is Judge" - surely Daniel was God. You, sir, are confused. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by BARRISTERS: 10:15pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
@Obadiah777 simple and plain english, i did not say that i cant tackle your post,see what i said again; i dont even know where to start with these pls, now see what you translate it to be, your comprehension is a debate for a tread alone! just see your translation of what isaid below;(bolded) YOU CANT TACKLE THE POST [/b]IS YOUR WAY OF SAYING YOU CANT HANDLE THE HEAT AND YOU ARE GETTING OUT OF THE KITCHEN. I SUGGEST YOU DO THAT. THE REAL CHEFS ARE IN TOWN. WE CAN TAKE THE HEAT. WE ARE SEASONED COOKS [b]there is nothing to tackle than to help you rearrange yourself and tidy your presentations before your post can be deemed fit to be treated as that of a normal post, but as it is, you are not following any principles or legitimate standards,(you may not agree but insult,you are free) im summary,your posts are uncultured and devoid of relevance. but i will still treat them as they are! |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 10:18pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
obadiah777: BOOKMARK IS A DRUNK. HE IS ALWAYS TALKING RUBBISH Because i never reply the "bishrub" you are defending since you came here. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 10:19pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
TroGunn:YOU DO ERR. IF YOU LOOK 2 VERSES ABOVE THAT VERSE IT TELLS YOU WHO EXACTLY 1 THESSALONIANS 4 VS 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him <<<< GOD NOT CHRIST IS THE ONE COMING TO LIFT THE DEAD SOULS. I SEE WHAT YOU ARE THINKING. YOU ARE MISTAKING THIS FOR THE FEAST OF THE LAMB WHEN CHRIST HIMSELF WILL COME DOWN. THIS IS NOT THE FEAST OF THE LAMB. THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT OCCURS BEFORE THAT. THE LORD, GOD HIMSELF WILL CRY OUT WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL. THIS IS THE GREENLIGHT FOR CHRIST THAT IT IS TIME |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 10:24pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
TroGunn:BRUV THIS AINT A MATTER OF CONFUSION. YOU NEED TO STUDY THE CONTEXT AND VERSE WELL BEFORE ASCRIBING NAMES TO TITLES. THATS ALL I AM SAYING BRUV. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 10:25pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
obadiah777: YOU DO ERR. IF YOU LOOK 2 VERSES ABOVE THAT VERSE IT TELLS YOU WHO EXACTLY Please read and explain John 5:25 & 28:25. Tell us who God delegated the task of rasing the dead to, tell us whose voice it will be. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 10:26pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
plappville: I don't know whether he feeds on weed or vegetable. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 10:28pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
TroGunn:BUT MICAH IS NOT AN ARCHANGEL THOUGH OR IS HE ? SO YOUR POINT IS MUTE. MICHEAL IS THE ARCHANGEL. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 10:30pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
BARRISTERS: @Obadiah777AND I REPEAT, LEAVE THE KITCHEN FOR THE REAL SEASONED COOKS. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 10:30pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
Boomark: |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 10:37pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
TroGunn:SEE YOU ARE MIXING THINGS UP. THATS THE PROBLEM JOHN 5 VS 25 ALREADY HAPPENED CLOSE TO 2000 YEARS AGO. THESE WERE CALLED THE FIRST FRUITS OR THE FIRST RESSURECTION. THE 144,000 >>>>> MATTHEWS 27 VS 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, <<<< HAPPENED AROUND 2000 YEARS AGO AFTER CHRIST WAS CRUCIFIED. SEE NOW I KNOW WHY YOU ARE CONFUSED. THAT INCIDENT HAS HAPPENED. IN THE BIBLE THERE ARE FULFILLED AS WELL AS UNFULFILLED PROPHESYS. THAT IS A FULFILLED PROPHESY I SEE HOW YOU ARE CONFUSED. THE FIRST RESSURECTION WAS CHRIST. HOWEVER THE SECOND RESSURECTION WILL BE GOD HIMSELF SOUNDING THE TRUMPHET SO THAT ALL THE ANGELS WILL KNOW IT IS TIME FOR THE LORDS KINGDOM TO BE ESTABLISHED ON EARTH. YOU ARE CONFUSING FIRST FRUITS WITH LATER FRUITS |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 10:43pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
Boomark:BOOKMARK THE NEW BASKETMOUTH YOU GOT MANY JOKES BRAH |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by BARRISTERS: 10:53pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
ur blood is too hot. dont u know i gat other things to do outside nairaland? Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks. @free123 i can only quote Rev 2:1 thank you for at least quoting from your own bible kjv, that renders that verse as 'angel' lets see other verses you skipped; revelation 3:1,3 3:1 [b]The angel of the church of Sardis …………..is reproved verse(3) exhorted to repent, and threatened if he do not repent. 3:14 the angel of Laodicea …..rebuked for being neither hot nor cold, 2:8[b] The angel of the church of Smyrna[/b]. 2:1 The angel of the church Ephesus. do you know who these angels are? expecially that of sardis who allowed some extremes among the church members, and was treatened with the letter written to him so as to correct his attitude. they are various (human) church leaders in various cities toured by the apostles, they are the lords messengers. do you want to dispute that? response pls! |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 11:06pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
obadiah777: AND TO PUT A NAIL IN THE COFFIN AS TO WHO THE ARCHANGEL MICHEAL IS I don't even know how to start with you but look at this. Daniel 12:1 King James Version (KJV) And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. Michael is described here as a great prince who stands in behalf of the people. And not the Almighty God. In Dan 10:13, he is said to be one of the foremost princes. God is a king not a prince. In v21 Gabriel said Michael the prince is the one that holdeth with him in these things: showing him(daniel) things that are noted in the scripture of truth. Michael is a prince and he is serving God Almightty. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 11:20pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
Boomark:STRONG POINTS MADE. STRONGEST SO FAR. THE POINT HERE IS ARCHANGEL MICHEAL HAS THE AUTHORITY OF GOD OR CHRIST. CHRIST AND GOD HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT. HOLY-SPIRIT. SO EITHER WAY WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. IF HE IS NOT GOD, THEN HE IS CHRIST. EITHER WAY HE IS ONE OR THE OTHER AND NOBODY ELSE. SO THE OP IS CORRECT IN THE PREMISE OF THE THREAD. ARCHANGEL MICHEAL HAS THE AUTHORITY AND POWER OF EITHER CHRIST OR YAHAWAH. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 11:25pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
obadiah777: SEE YOU ARE MIXING THINGS UP. THATS THE PROBLEM John 5:28-29 King James Version (KJV) 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. So all the dead were rasied up during the incident at Christ's death, right? |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by BARRISTERS: 11:31pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
@Boomark, who is this [size=14pt]Man[/size] with His sword drawn in His hand? Joshua 5:13-15 13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, a Man stood opposite him with His sword drawn in His hand. And Joshua went to Him and said to Him, “Are You for us or for our adversaries?” 14 So He said, “No, but as Commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.” can you tell us who you feel the man was who appeared to the pulic/human/joshua on purpose and being sent by God. and who are 'the armies' here briefly? |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 11:51pm On Dec 18, 2012 |
TroGunn:YES ALL THE FIRST FRUITS WERE RAISED UP DURING THIS PERIOD. THESE FIRST FRUITS WILL THEN HAVE THEIR SINS PERMANENTLY BLOTTED OUT SO THAT THEY CAN PUT TOGETHER THE NEW TESTAMENT WHICH WILL OFFER SALVATION TO THE GENTILE NATIONS. THE FIRST FRUITS WERE ALL ISRAELITES. THE LATER FRUITS WILL BE THE REST OF THE WORLD. THE ISRAELITES WHO ARE THE FIRST FRUIT WILL WRITE THE LAWS THAT WILL UNITE THE GENTILES WITH ISRAEL UNDER THE LAW. THIS IS CALLED THE NEW TESTAMENT. THIS IS WHY CHRIST DEATH SPIRITUALLY RESSURECTED THE FIRST FRUIT PERMANENTLY. SO THAT GOD CAN WORK THROUGH THEM TO WRITE THE NEW TESTAMENT ( PAUL WAS PART OF THE FIRST FRUIT AS WELL AS ALL THE AUTHORS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT ). THE WAGES OF SIN IS SPIRITUAL DEATH. IF YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY DEAD THE LORD CANT WORK THROUGH YOU. AND YET THESE FIRST FRUITS WILL STILL BE IN THIS WORLD WITH THEIR SINFUL AND LUSTFUL BODIES. THIS IS WHY THEY NEEDED THEIR RETROACTIVE AND PROACTIVE SINS WIPED OUT SO THE LORD CAN USE THEM WITHOUT THE CONNECTION BEING CUT OFF BY THEIR SINS. AND WITH THE NEW TESTAMENT WRITTEN, THE GENTILE NATIONS CAN START THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO BE PART OF THE LATER FRUITS WHICH WILL BE HARVESTED WHEN THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS ESTABLISHED PERMANENTLY ON EARTH. HOPE THIS ALL MAKES SENSE TO YOU SO IF YOU MEAN ARE THE FIRST FRUITS THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL BE HARVESTED ? THE ANSWER IS NO. THERE IS A LATER FRUIT TO BE RAISED FROM SPIRITUAL DEATH WHEN CHRIST RETURNS. HOWEVER YOU WILL GET REFERENCES TO THIS IN THE BOOK OF ACTS ON DOWNWARDS BECAUSE PAUL IS THE APOSTLE OF THE GENTILES AND HIS WORK STARTED ON THE GENTILES FROM ACTS. HOWEVER FOR A SUMMARIZED VERSION YOU CAN READ THE BOOK OF REVELATION CHAPTER 11 AND MAY I ADD, THE DEAD RAISED UP IS NOT PHYSICALLY DEAD PEOPLE. ITS SPIRITUALLY DEAD PEOPLE. THIS IS NO MAGIC TRICK OF RAISING UP HUMANS WHO HAVE PHYSICALLY DIED. THATS CRAZY TALK AND PREPOSTEROUS. THE SPIRIT IS RAISED AND RESSURECTED INTO HEAVEN ( MEANING YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY ALIVE AND RECONNECTED TO GOD ) |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by plappville(f): 12:11am On Dec 19, 2012 |
obadiah777: STRONG POINTS MADE. STRONGEST SO FAR. THE POINT HERE IS ARCHANGEL MICHEAL HAS THE AUTHORITY OF GOD OR CHRIST. CHRIST AND GOD HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT. HOLY-SPIRIT. SO EITHER WAY WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. IF HE IS NOT GOD, THEN HE IS CHRIST. EITHER WAY HE IS ONE OR THE OTHER AND NOBODY ELSE. SO THE OP IS CORRECT IN THE PREMISE OF THE THREAD. ARCHANGEL MICHEAL HAS THE AUTHORITY AND POWER OF EITHER CHRIST OR YAHAWAH. Who is in same page as you, boomark? See where laziness has landed you confusion garlooo Haha.. So the Holy Spirit has surdenly changed ur mind? I thought no one sees what you see. A strong prophet changing His views in pretence surely (JEsus and God) has same spirit....you are beginning to see differently. Jude 1:9 wasnt good enough, John5:25 neither. 1. Zechariah 3:1-2 Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the "Angel of the LORD", and Satan standing at his right hand to oppose him. 2. And the "LORD" said to Satan, "The LORD rebuke you, Satan! The LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! the Angel here reffering satan's rebuke to God (Yahweh) u said no, it was yahweh who was referring satan's rebuke to "who," i dont know, maybe to you then a lesson for next time. Never jump in a thread claiming to know better than others. Just an advice ! |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 12:12am On Dec 19, 2012 |
obadiah777: BOOKMARK THE NEW BASKETMOUTH YOU GOT MANY JOKES BRAH You too dey crack my ribs most times. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by plappville(f): 12:16am On Dec 19, 2012 |
TroGunn: This guy has been faking people here with his interpretaions......He sees nothing, just boasting in vain. Just see how john 5:25 has been fulfilled According to him haha....another wast of time like @true2god in this thread. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 12:19am On Dec 19, 2012 |
plappville:LOL HUN ALL AM SAYING IS ARCHANGEL MICHEAL IS EITHER GOD OR CHRIST. EITHER WAY THEY ARE THE SAME SPIRIT. NOT THE SAME ENTITIES BUT THE SAME SPIRIT. THATS ALL A BROTHERS SAYING. ITS A 50 50 CHANCE. NO ONE HAS THE ABSOLUTE TILL THAT DAY WHEN ALL WILL BE REVEALED. HOWEVER WE CAN POINT TO EITHER GOD OR CHRIST. I THINK THATS GOOD ENOUGH |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by plappville(f): 12:22am On Dec 19, 2012 |
Boomark:His problem is( ITK) i too know, He claims to have all knowledge of the bible than others....not everyone fall for Him though! |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 12:23am On Dec 19, 2012 |
Boomark:I GUESS YOU ARE RETURNING THE FAVOR THREEFOLD. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 12:24am On Dec 19, 2012 |
plappville:YOU GOT JOKES PLAPPVILLE |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 12:26am On Dec 19, 2012 |
plappville:JOHN 5 VS 25 HAS BEEN FULFILLED. ITS CALLED FIRST FRUITS. SEE YOU ERR NOT KNOWING SCRIPTURES PLAPPVILLE |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 12:30am On Dec 19, 2012 |
obadiah777: STRONG POINTS MADE. STRONGEST SO FAR. THE POINT HERE IS ARCHANGEL MICHEAL HAS THE AUTHORITY OF GOD OR CHRIST. CHRIST AND GOD HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT. HOLY-SPIRIT. SO EITHER WAY WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. IF HE IS NOT GOD, THEN HE IS CHRIST. EITHER WAY HE IS ONE OR THE OTHER AND NOBODY ELSE. SO THE OP IS CORRECT IN THE PREMISE OF THE THREAD. ARCHANGEL MICHEAL HAS THE AUTHORITY AND POWER OF EITHER CHRIST OR YAHAWAH. (8 But i still think non of them. Hebrew 1:5, 13. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by plappville(f): 12:34am On Dec 19, 2012 |
obadiah777: LOL HUN ALL AM SAYING IS ARCHANGEL MICHEAL IS EITHER GOD OR CHRIST. EITHER WAY THEY ARE THE SAME SPIRIT. NOT THE SAME ENTITIES BUT THE SAME SPIRIT. THATS ALL A BROTHERS SAYING. If you have humbly read the thread from start, you would have seen that none here ever refferres Archangel Michael as God, three groups are in debates here, one says, micheal of the OT is Jesus, reasons were given, the other Group are saying Jesus cannot be that angel of the OT, that He didn't pre-existed. The third group are the trinitarians, are have nothing to prove yet, they keep post Hebrews (which of the angels....blabla) ignoring other scriptures presented to them. You on ur own jump enter here with a complete matter.....(Michael is God) hahaha...u no reach to make person laff?? |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 12:35am On Dec 19, 2012 |
BARRISTERS: @Boomark, Michael. The armies are angels but may not be all the angels. Nigeria soldiers does not mean all nigerians are soldiers. |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Nobody: 12:38am On Dec 19, 2012 |
Boomark:BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANGEL AND ARCHANGEL BRUV. THOSE VERSES YOU QUOTED SAY 'ANGEL'. ARCHANGEL IS THE OGA PATAPATA |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by plappville(f): 12:39am On Dec 19, 2012 |
obadiah777: JOHN 5 VS 25 HAS BEEN FULFILLED. ITS CALLED FIRST FRUITS. SEE YOU ERR NOT KNOWING SCRIPTURES PLAPPVILLE See you that doesnt err...Archangel Michael is your yahweh .......the holy spirit decieve you ? Dont even say that....u are the fake/false prophet in this court hahaha.....i just be luck i'm on mobil this night... |
Re: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by plappville(f): 12:43am On Dec 19, 2012 |
truthislight: He don already realise him grave mistake |
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