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Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by peteregwu(m): 2:32am On Apr 03, 2013 |
Omenuko: dats false, catholic worship and honor mary either u know it or not. see your pope below below..and tell me, what is he doing?
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Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Richieboyn: 3:37am On Apr 03, 2013 |
Boomark: Did it tell you dat it was crying because you don't do what d Fada said you should do? Can't u see dat u are talking thrash? |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Richieboyn: 3:41am On Apr 03, 2013 |
frosbel: Frosbel you again. Why can't u just mind ur business for once? What church do u even attend. |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Richieboyn: 3:43am On Apr 03, 2013 |
peteregwu: My friend yu are mumuishly ignorant. No time 4 pple lyk u. |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Richieboyn: 3:44am On Apr 03, 2013 |
Omenuko: Nobody says yu shd worship Mary. Why are ds protestants/pentecostals so block-headed? |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Missonas(f): 9:29am On Apr 03, 2013 |
peteregwu: its high time catholic start being true christians, and stop being double faced. OK!bt take d log off ur own eyes brov b4 bothering abt d speck in others |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by peteregwu(m): 11:48am On Apr 03, 2013 |
when u tell catholic they worship idol, they will disclaim unbiblically. now see below and tell me what the pope is doing...is that not witchcrafty? so, what makes th pope or catholic different from native doctors. below pope kissing the "holy quran", with a skull before him showing occultism, and holding a symbol of the ancient god of the pagan. what prove do u guys want? if this i hidden before us, then we will not bother judging, but what we see we do speak or judge. so it is clear. the bible says we should "judge righteously". so when we see what is evil, we say it is evil by speaking out.
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Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Missonas(f): 12:21pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
peteregwu: when u tell catholic they worship idol, they will disclaim unbiblically. now see below and tell me what the pope is doing...is that not witchcrafty? so, what makes th pope or catholic different from native doctors. Nw we nt jst idol worshippers bt we possess 'witchcrafty' and r kissers of quran which makes us muslims tew.na illuminati remain na * smh* |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Freksy(m): 1:49pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
Omenuko: Those devotional things you or your leaders do whenever you or they stand, kneel, sit, lie etc before an image or images fall under the heading of 'worship'. The worshiper doe not need to tell the worshed saying: "I am worshiping you, before the act is termed, 'worship'". Prayer is a form of worship, did you know? The pictures you see above this post are pictorial representations of what am trying to paint. The reason they give you for honoring /worshiping Mary makes me begging to feel Elizabeth, the mother of John, the baptizer of Jesus did not do the will of God. Omenuko, if you were to choose between the teachings of the Catholic Church and those of the Bible about Mary and Jesus, which would you go for? Nevertheless, if you know you love your life and future, let nothing hold you back from acting swiftly on the following: "And I heard another voice from heaven , saying , Come out of her, my people , that ye be not partakers of her sins , and that ye receive not of her plagues . For her sins have reached unto heaven , and God hath remembered her iniquities ". Rev. 18:4 - 5. 1 Like |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Omenuko(m): 5:39pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
Freksy: I see, so if we use you definition of worship: Those devotional things you or your leaders do whenever you or they stand, kneel, sit, lie etc before an image or images fall under the heading of 'worship' Then the mere fact of standing and holding one's hand to the chest to salute the flag during the singing of the national anthem is worship (i.e., worshiping the national flag - idol worship)...the act of performing the yoruba doba'le or the east asian bow to a person is an act of worship (i.e., worshiping individuals - worshiping man)...the act of kneeling, kissing, or even touching royalty or esteemed individuals is worship (i.e., worshiping earthly kings). Surely, your definition of worship is too broad, because by merely giving respect or honor to anything, idea, or person will fall into your category of worship. Can you please expand on how the Bible declares all of the above, including your assessment of catholic veneration, as sinful. |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by peteregwu(m): 8:53pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
Missonas: so, u dont know dat illuminati is rulling d catholic? thats y whenever they select a new pope, rituals is involved. thats y everythin is don in secretcy. well, i know u wont believe me for any reason. now look at the pictures i posted, a pope , kneeling before a skull and kissing a quran. my friend u need to run out of that church and pray God to reveal a church where u can worship Him in truth and in spirit. today pope went to pauls grave to pray is that an abomination, praying to the dead. God is showing His people all this things for u to run, bu u prefer to remain under the authority of satan. |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Nobody: 9:41pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
Just like Lazarus muoka is a 419 extraordinaire.A liar and an expert @ deceptionm |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by mumumugu(m): 11:46pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
chukwudi44: Just like Lazarus muoka is a 419 extraordinaire.A liar and an expert @ deceptionmi heard he was an ex catholic. Is it true |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by peteregwu(m): 12:20am On Apr 04, 2013 |
mumumugu: i heard he was an ex catholic. Is it true yes. |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by peteregwu(m): 12:32am On Apr 04, 2013 |
chukwudi44: Just like Lazarus muoka is a 419 extraordinaire.A liar and an expert @ deceptionm chukwudi, we speak what we see and hav evidence of. i knw u are angry because of d catholic ungodly practices we hav been condemning here. because of it u are reigning false accusation u cant prove against a man of God. remember, God is the one that fights directly for His servants. just because i am speaking against catholic practices does not mean am wrong, am right because it is against the word of God. i am a member of chosen, and i see no wrong with the teachings of pastor Lazarus....everything He teaches and practicalises is in the bible. so what is d foundation of your false allegation or accusation against a man who is winning souls tirelessly without relenting and also preaching the truth consistently without compromise. He is the only one i do here in the time of offering, he will declare, "of u are a 419, armed robber, drug dealer, prostitute, fraudster, and occultic man, do not put your money here or else the judgement of God will come upon you." he says this every time he preaches on the pulpit. he is the one that says "if are into polygamy...you have more than one wive, remove all the wives settle them, let them go and let the first wife remain, repent and surrender to Jesus so that u will make heaven." this is what i here everyday from my beloved pastor. hmmm..in all my life i have never seen a man of God that preaches consistently like him. am not praising or worshipping him,i am thanking God for giving me such pastor in this evil generation. even when people are giving testimonies and mistakenly thank him. he will say, "dont ever thank me, thank God and give Him all the glory, He is doer of all the miracles." that is the footstep we are being thought to follow. so tell me, who is now a lier btw you and pastor lazarus? my hand no day o. have been telling u over and over again. go and read in the bible what happened to those that stood against true men of God in the bible, their end was disastrous. as for the pope and catholic practises, it is ungodly, u can as well see all the pictures i posted. am bold to say it.i can only speak of whati know and have seen. |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Pygru: 1:13am On Apr 04, 2013 |
peteregwu: when u tell catholic they worship idol, they will disclaim unbiblically. now see below and tell me what the pope is doing...is that not witchcrafty? so, what makes th pope or catholic different from native doctors. ![]() |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Richieboyn: 4:42am On Apr 04, 2013 |
peteregwu: You r jst rytin a hell lot of stories..... Itz obvious nothing can be put into ur basket brain, so no need explainin stuff 2u anymore. |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Nobody: 6:07am On Apr 04, 2013 |
peteregwu: My friend sharaap joor.Many members of your apron worshipping church have come out to accuse him of defrauding them. Is that not enough evidence.Even his co-partner with whom he started the business was duped of his investments amounting to over 300million naira.Face it dude. You fools do not even worship the true God but rather a demon whom you call "the god of chosen" |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Nobody: 8:12am On Apr 04, 2013 |
chukwudi44:the pope and 85% of MOG's are false so separate yourselve from these babylon churches. 1 Like |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Boomark(m): 8:23am On Apr 04, 2013 |
Missonas: |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Boomark(m): 8:51am On Apr 04, 2013 |
Missonas: Thank you dear. Even the pagans give testimonies in their shrine. They also dream dreams. If demons are working through the images for them, that is it for them. They are not Christians. If you are a Christian and want to follow Christ, then you have to worship God in truth and in spirit. |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Boomark(m): 9:05am On Apr 04, 2013 |
Missonas: the bolded is where you get it wrong. You don't do it however you want. Christ said, "worship God in TRUTH." The spirit searched the hearts of the samaritans and saw that they fear God but they worship idol. The means they were using was wrong. You don't kneel be an idol to pray, hoping to receive answers from God. No! It is amadioha that will answer. I don't mean you in particular. ![]() |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Boomark(m): 9:19am On Apr 04, 2013 |
Missonas: 1 How can you be in love with me while you use ijawkid's picture to imagine me in you heart? ![]() ![]() 2 You can't use another man's picture to imagine and feel Christ. You feel that man not Christ. Ask yourself how sure you are that the different pictures you are using are of Christ. See how all of them differ. |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Boomark(m): 9:26am On Apr 04, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: was it the servants who went and said "they have no wine"? A simple yes or no will do. NO. So is my "no" answer the reason why catholics pray to Mary? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Boomark(m): 9:32am On Apr 04, 2013 |
mumumugu: WAR + SHIP =WARSHIP mumu+mugu=mumumugu Please change your name or your character. |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Ubenedictus(m): 11:57am On Apr 04, 2013 |
Boomark:it shows what she can do |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Nobody: 12:07pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: it shows what she can do she can do nothing, she is dead , though she will rise again ![]() Stop worshiping the queen of heaven my brother ! ![]() |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by ijawkid(m): 12:52pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: it shows what she can doshe can do nothing..... ![]() |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Freksy(m): 1:53pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
Omenuko: Devotional things = things you do that are connected or related to religious service. Example, prayer and your church songs are devotional things. If you pray or sing before an image as part of your religious service, that is worship. If you bow, prostrate, kneel, kiss etc as a form of greeting, depending on your custom, they are nothing but greetings. On the other hand, if you do the same things, even before the same person(s) as part of your devotional things (religious service), they are no more greetings, but worship.
Yes, but before we go into the bible let understand what 'worship' entails. Can you kindly consult your dictionary for the meaning of 'devotional' to enable you understand my definition/ explanation better and as well tell me what you think worship is? |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Boomark(m): 7:52pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: it shows what she can do What she did was for those that don't know Christ. Abi? So are you saying that since Catholics don't know Christ, Mary has to continually intervene and beg on their behalf as they pray to her? |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Missonas(f): 8:10pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
peteregwu: Cant believe in d authenticity of dose pix.cant evn view em properly as im using a fone.FYI i am NOT unda d authority of satan,dnt use dose words.thkyu |
Re: In Defence Of Catholics (Accusation On Worshiping Statues) by Missonas(f): 8:11pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
peteregwu: Illuminati?seriously??awww y'all jst dnt get it.allow the Holy spirit to work in you.i mean freeeee urself brov.May God help us to understand the things dat we dont.Amen |
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