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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by djon78(m): 4:03pm On Mar 24, 2013
Gbawe:

You are a despicable character and, unlike the OP, an example of the problematic folks never interested in giving peace a chance because of personal egocentric complexes you are not able to move on from. Nothing typifies cowardice more than using superior number to gang-up against a minority group.

Everyone, into the historical science and logic of humanity, will know you are a deluded and vacuously hateful loser. When the Yorubas have the numbers, then nothing more would bear out the hate you claim they have for you than for their "cowardice" to lead them into attempts at murderous cleansing, in all corners of the SW, of those they "hate" and "want to exterminate" as deluded lost soul and ingrates like you postulate daily here.

As things stand, and with the reality on the ground, the Yorubas are nothing but the embodiment of tolerance, hospitality and relative sophistication in a totally mad nation. I really wonder why people like you are such evil liars and demonic ingrates. It is almost as if you must taunt even saints to hate you by continuously and falsely insisting they are demons after your blood.

Nothing confirms that you are a loser in life , and a big failure, more than your rabidly false hateful pontifications you deliver here. Your mates are thriving and finding love, success, fulfillment and happiness where and with who they find it , be that in Yorubaland or Igboland, while a frustrated loser like you remain here lying and showing how paranoid delusional you are.

This is what I hate about this forum. Not enough brave and principled people able to stand for what is right so we can heal and move on as a Nation . Can the many decent Igbos living peacefully in the SW - and I know you are here - not simply stand for what is right by coming out and denounce this clown who is a divisive embarrassment to you all and the sort obsessed with stoking division and creating problems for you where there is non?

The Yorubas are not the enemies of the Igbos as the OP correctly asserts. If they were, as deluded and bitter souls claim here daily, then events on the ground will bear this out 100% as is severally documented throughout history when real and toxic animosity existing between groups of people has led to continuous and unabated blood-letting. Even the Hausas/Fulanis are not your enemies if one is wise to know the real problems of Nigeria and how they have mingled to create the sad feudalism we are all forced to live with today.

I am Igbo but to be honest, the Yorubas may have their fault but to me they respect the Igbos more than any other ethnic group in Nigeria, even more than our neighbors SS, example an Igbo man has been a commissioner in Lagos for a long time, they know the value we have added to development of Lagos, they do respect us. I think we Igbos should forget about the past and relate more with the Yorubas, they are the best allies we can have. They have their faults, but we Igbos have our own faults too. And they are peaceful, not violent, when have u heard that they fight against us killng us like it is done in the north, I say t again they are our closest allies in this nation, a word is enough for the. Wise.

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Gbawe: 4:06pm On Mar 24, 2013
Chima_Adeoye:

For the bolded, i agree with your view.
The originator of this thread is seriously naive or just silly.Over the years,I have observed the difference between a typical Igbo and Yoruba, and i have come to the conclusion that Igbo is boldly outspoken (sometimes naively)and result oriented. Thus, would dine with the devil himself if that is what it takes to produce results. Yoruba on the other hand is the exact opposite of Igbo character and a natural diplomat. Thus, it you would require a truth serum with a lie detector test machine to extract his true feelings or position on any issue at all.I think it is useless and naive for Igbo to trust Yoruba in any strategic political arrangement, even if Yoruba were the sole beneficiary of such.

Except for a few, a typical Yoruba don't understand the word integrity nor solidarity. Mind you, I'm yoruba by marriage,but i can confidently tell you that apart from my husband's people, i'm yet to come across a yoruba that isn't wholeheartedly anti-igbo and also committed anti-hausa, but just don't have the nerve to express their true feelings in your presence,except when you leave. Most of the yoruba internet warriors here will serve an Igbo friend delicious amala if you visit their homes. But the Igbo that hates yoruba here,will not even invite them to his home. That is the difference,and it is a critical difference when trust is at stake.


If you believed all what you wrote here, then you should not have married a Yoruba man to begin with because I can tell you it is not the OP who is naive. It is you thinking your husband and his people are "different". What ever good you attribute to your husband and his people , you naively feel is unique to them, is present in most Yoruba people.

Stop deceiving yourself that things are otherwise because real events on the ground should bear out this hatred you claim Yorubas vehemently harbour for you. You could have been married to any random Yoruba man and your argument would still be same. I.e him and his family are "different" while you will not simply accept it is you who perhaps needs to reject negative indoctrination and just move on. You cannot continue insisting a people hate you when they have never been anything but hospitable to you. For the sake of your children, I suggest you simply try and work on a achieving a more tolerant mindset otherwise how do you want to raise them?

I really pity them with the divisive prejudice you openly harbour. You are showing what I talk about here when I speak of the indoctrination that ruins children and make them the embodiment of the hopeless haters we see here daily. When , contrary to the reality on the ground, you are busy telling your children stereotypical lies you also were told, as a child, that their father's people have no "integrity or solidarity" and that, conversely, your people are the saints of Nigeria always clean and without blemish or blame, will you be surprised when they are here in 16 years time disturbing others with their crass and odiously false generalisation you passed on to them? What a pity.

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by BlackBaron: 4:13pm On Mar 24, 2013
I'll be hard pressed not to believe Nigerians are the most dysfunctional set of humans God created bar a few good eggs.

Your common enemies are the elite, yet...
Those that choose to live in paranoia cue some phantom hatred their father told them 'x' tribe has for them can continue to wallow in darkness.

The same way, the lower rung of the society can not dialogue to achieve simple goals is the same those pseudo-leaders at the top are un agreeable to any thing progressive.
Democracy was restored in 1999,this is 2013. Pray tell how much dividend has been impacted on the common man. Same old shite- looting, riots,crumbling infrastructure and the obligatory infantile paranoia about other tribes.

At this rate I daresay the difference 100 years from now in whatever developmental index or parameters would only be marginal compared to pre-1960 levels.

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Gbawe: 4:14pm On Mar 24, 2013
djon78:

I am Igbo but to be honest, the Yorubas may have their fault but to me they respect the Igbos more than any other ethnic group in Nigeria, even more than our neighbors SS, example an Igbo man has been a commissioner in Lagos for a long time, they know the value we have added to development of Lagos, they do respect us. I think we Igbos should forget about the past and relate more with the Yorubas, they are the best allies we can have. They have their faults, but we Igbos have our own faults too. And they are peaceful, not violent, when have u heard that they fight against us killng us like it is done in the north, I say t again they are our closest allies in this nation, a word is enough for the. Wise.

Thank you. Truth is that with the way humanity is integrating, races would be homogeneous in future let alone alone ethnic groups consisting of people of the same colour intermarrying at a rapid rate. Throwing around stereotypes and peddling falsehood about hatred that is non-existent on the ground is just shameful. Especially when found in young people who should be busy living productive lives and forging progressive bonds for the sake of their Nation.

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Nobody: 4:14pm On Mar 24, 2013
djon78:

I am Igbo but to be honest, the Yorubas may have their fault but to me they respect the Igbos more than any other ethnic group in Nigeria, even more than our neighbors SS, example an Igbo man has been a commissioner in Lagos for a long time, they know the value we have added to development of Lagos, they do respect us. I think we Igbos should forget about the past and relate more with the Yorubas, they are the best allies we can have. They have their faults, but we Igbos have our own faults too. And they are peaceful, not violent, when have u heard that they fight against us killng us like it is done in the north, I say t again they are our closest allies in this nation, a word is enough for the. Wise.
preach on preacher! I hope the notorious and wannabe famous bigots on this forum are reading .
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by ZUBY77(m): 4:24pm On Mar 24, 2013
@Gbawe, i didn't bother to reply the lady #chima_adeoye because @32, i am getting old for silly people. Could you imagine a lady saying that her husband's people (immiediate family i guess) is the only non biased family in the whole of SW. Lol. Wow! I guess her Igbo family investigated that fact properly before allowing her to marry the perfect family.
I will maintain my stand that we must forget the past and forge a Southern Alliance. That is the only thing that can:
1 - Destroy the Religious line of thinking, since many Yorubas are Muslims. It will shake the muslim North and make them understand that they equally hate violence.

2 - jostle the Northern leaders and make them quickly dismantle the Boko Haram structure.

3 - It will also create a well defined wall between North and South.

As it stands, i know geography and maps very well but trust me, i dont know if there is a comprehensive border between Hausa and Yoruba in Kwara. I dont know where Hausa started in Plateau State. I dont know where Hausa started in KOGI State. We need to define certain things for this country to move forward. It may take blood to draw the map but i rather prefer it take blood once and for all than inceasant killings of people in Plateau and North.
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Alfamann: 4:36pm On Mar 24, 2013
ZUBY77: @Gbawe, i didn't bother to reply the lady #chima_adeoye because @32, i am getting old for silly people. Could you imagine a lady saying that her husband's people (immiediate family i guess) is the only non biased family in the whole of SW. Lol. Wow! I guess her Igbo family investigated that fact properly before allowing her to marry the perfect family.
I will maintain my stand that we must forget the past and forge a Southern Alliance. That is the only thing that can:
1 - Destroy the Religious line of thinking, since many Yorubas are Muslims. It will shake the muslim North and make them understand that they equally hate violence.

2 - jostle the Northern leaders and make them quickly dismantle the Boko Haram structure.

3 - It will also create a well defined wall between North and South.

As it stands, i know geography and maps very well but trust me, i dont know if there is a comprehensive border between Hausa and Yoruba in Kwara. I dont know where Hausa started in Plateau State. I dont know where Hausa started in KOGI State. We need to define certain things for this country to move forward. It may take blood to draw the map but i rather prefer it take blood once and for all than inceasant killings of people in Plateau and North.


You don't know a lot of things. Do you?
But somehow you know we should unite with proven backstabbers!

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by djon78(m): 4:42pm On Mar 24, 2013
Gbawe:

Thank you. Truth is that with the way humanity is integrating, races would be homogeneous in future let alone alone ethnic groups consisting of people of the same colour intermarrying at a rapid rate. Throwing around stereotypes and peddling falsehood about hatred that is non-existent on the ground is just shameful. Especially when found in young people who should be busy living productive lives and forging progressive bonds for the sake of their Nation.

My brother we should be united, most especially we black africans. Actually my living abroad for study made me like anything black African, I have very close friends from kenya, tanzania, botswana, francophone Africa etc, infact I had a tanzanian babe, wonderful girl who I would have marred but it wasn't to be. I am working towards settling down and of a truth I don't really want to marry from my tribe its like boring for me and girls around me the one top on my list is a yoruba babe then a SS girl but I am still trying to make up my mind and be ready to stand opposition that may come from my umunna (kinsmen) cos my parents and siblings will respect my decision

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by ZUBY77(m): 4:46pm On Mar 24, 2013
Alfamann: [/b]

You don't know a lot of things. Do you?
But somehow you know we should unite with proven backstabbers!

Dickhead, what do you do if you suspect that a backstabber is following you? Are you a tree?
What of the alternative? Would you prefer, as it is happening, to be bombed every now and then while you sit back in your village and complain?

You think somehow, a God, who lives somewhere in the sky is coming to stop the bombing or help you.

If you percive Yorubas as evil, then you must chose between the two evils North and South since standing alone is not an option at the moment.

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by djon78(m): 5:01pm On Mar 24, 2013
You know hating some one because of his color or tribe to me is meaningless. Why spend so much energy being tribalistic when life is too short maximum u live to 85 and then u die and leave this earth and u will be no more, so why will I waste my short time on earth detesting someone because he is from different tribe, its a waste of energy and time, I should rather use my time to enjoy the uniqueness of different tribes and races .

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by ninja4life(m): 5:29pm On Mar 24, 2013
In d real life yorubas and igbos are united but its d elite from both tribes playing on d intelligence of its people since most nigerians make political decision base on ethnicity
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by TheBookWorm: 5:39pm On Mar 24, 2013
I know some people may hate this, but this is just my humble observation. The Igbos and the Yorubas are more similar than they are different. Both groups value education, a peaceful environment, as well as they are both industrious. There is a reason why the first words out of people mouth around the world who have encountered Nigerians ask if you are Yoruba or Igbo. Probably much to the chagrin of members of the smaller ethnic groups.

If you all put more of your attention to building an alliance with each other, Southern Nigeria as a whole would progress. Unfortunately, many members out of both groups think outside of their rears and are moved by raw emotion and not rationality.

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by omonnakoda: 5:46pm On Mar 24, 2013
TheBookWorm: I know some people may hate this, but this is just my humble observation. The Igbos and the Yorubas are more similar than they are different. Both groups value education, a peaceful environment, as well as they are both industrious. There is a reason why the first words out of people mouth around the world who have encountered Nigerians ask if you are Yoruba or Igbo. Probably much to the chagrin of members of the smaller ethnic groups.

If you all put more of your attention to building an alliance with each other, Southern Nigeria as a whole would progress. Unfortunately, many members out of both groups think outside of their rears and are moved by raw emotion and not rationality.
when people ask you Yoruba or Ebo they are trying to establish if you are a gentleman or a scoundrel as the case may be
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Pataki: 5:48pm On Mar 24, 2013
omonnakoda:

YOU ARE BIG B1.
GBAWE IS BIB B1

YOU ARE BIG B1.
GBAWE IS BIB B1


YOU ARE BIG B1.
GBAWE IS BIB B1


You would do well not to constitute yourself as a cyber nuisance on this forum.

Old old members surely who know Big B1 is. It is unrefined idiocy that you are producing here.

My friend save yourself from this foolish embarassment.
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by TheBookWorm: 5:49pm On Mar 24, 2013
omonnakoda:
when people ask you Yoruba or Ebo they are trying to establish if you are a gentleman or a scoundrel as the case may be

Is that all you got from my post? Say no to tribalism, because it rots your brain. In my eyes, Igbos and Yorubas are all the same to me. Black skin with a strong sense of pride.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnIl1kiShfY

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by omonnakoda: 5:54pm On Mar 24, 2013
TheBookWorm:

Is that all you got from my post? Say no to tribalism, because it rots your brain. In my eyes, Igbos and Yorubas are all the same to me. Black skin with a strong sense of pride.


The same? Hmm. You know which animal kills snakes the most? Yea! Snakes.
I have no problem living among Eboans. We are not the same though and one must always be prepared to chastise when they become unruly as is their wont.
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Alfamann: 5:57pm On Mar 24, 2013
ZUBY77:

Dickhead, what do you do if you suspect that a backstabber is following you? Are you a tree?
What of the alternative? Would you prefer, as it is happening, to be bombed every now and then while you sit back in your village and complain?

You think somehow, a God, who lives somewhere in the sky is coming to stop the bombing or help you.

If you percive Yorubas as evil, then you must chose between the two evils North and South since standing alone is not an option at the moment.

I am dissappointed that someone that calls himself an igboman will make such silly statements as the bolded.

Let me put this way: standing alone is our only viable option for survival. Corner corner deals and wuruwuru diplomacy were what got us in this mess in the first place. You sound like a young man, and if so, I wish we would not repeat the errors of our fathers.

We need to become selfish and ruthless. Nobody has the monoploy of violence and yorubas can never be our protectors. We don't need them. Never had. They should take care of their own and we, of our own.

Your only objective should be for the actualisation of the great country of Igboland.

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by TheBookWorm: 6:04pm On Mar 24, 2013
omonnakoda:

The same? Hmm. You know which animal kills snakes the most? Yea! Snakes.
I have no problem living among Eboans. We are not the same though and one must always be prepared to chastise when they become unruly as is their wont.

You all are the same. What makes you different? It is not your DNA, because I am guessing if you take the DNA of an Igbo man and compare it with a Yoruba man, 99.9% would be the same. You all bleed the same. And there is not much distance between your respective land compared to other groups of people. I even heard that your languages are similar. So how are both groups are different?

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Ivynwa(f): 6:57pm On Mar 24, 2013
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We mustn't let others create an aura of hatred around us and unconsciously instil hate in everybody around.
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Geomac: 7:03pm On Mar 24, 2013
SW and SE will never unite. It is easier for S. Korea and N. Korea to unite than Igbo and Yoruba. Forget it, it will never work.
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by White007(m): 7:03pm On Mar 24, 2013
TheBookWorm:

You all are the same. What makes you different? It is not your DNA, because I am guessing if you take the DNA of an Igbo man and compare it with a Yoruba man, 99.9% would be the same. You all bleed the same. And there is not much distance between your respective land compared to other groups of people. I even heard that your languages are similar. So how are both groups are different?


Going by what you wrote above, looks like you neither Yoruba nor Igbo. Am i right? If yes, where 're you from? #justAsking
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Nobody: 7:10pm On Mar 24, 2013
Chima_Adeoye:

For the bolded, i agree with your view.
The originator of this thread is seriously naive or just silly.Over the years,I have observed the difference between a typical Igbo and Yoruba, and i have come to the conclusion that Igbo is boldly outspoken (sometimes naively)and result oriented. Thus, would dine with the devil himself if that is what it takes to produce results. Yoruba on the other hand is the exact opposite of Igbo character and a natural diplomat. Thus, it you would require a truth serum with a lie detector test machine to extract his true feelings or position on any issue at all.I think it is useless and naive for Igbo to trust Yoruba in any strategic political arrangement, even if Yoruba were the sole beneficiary of such.

Except for a few, a typical Yoruba don't understand the word integrity nor solidarity. Mind you, I'm yoruba by marriage,but i can confidently tell you that apart from my husband's people, i'm yet to come across a yoruba that isn't wholeheartedly anti-igbo and also committed anti-hausa, but just don't have the nerve to express their true feelings in your presence,except when you leave. Most of the yoruba internet warriors here will serve an Igbo friend delicious amala if you visit their homes. But the Igbo that hates yoruba here,will not even invite them to his home. That is the difference,and it is a critical difference when trust is at stake.

Are you the ONLY ibo married to a yoruba person? No, thousands if not millions of couples of both ethnic groups exist, so you're telling us only your husband and his people don't hate the ibos, did they fall from heaven?
I pity the man that married you (if you really aren't some nonsense teenager with a laptop somewhere)

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Nobody: 7:13pm On Mar 24, 2013
Ivynwa:

Who wants to come close to people that pours bottled hatred as acid on you?

We get thrown bombs and hatred from different corners. Abeg we want our own country, we don't want to unite with those that hate us. Simple!

There's a good chance that you're presently resident in SW nigeria, aint that right?
You lot take us for granted too fxcking much.
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Ivynwa(f): 7:17pm On Mar 24, 2013
django1:

There's a good chance that you're presently resident in SW nigeria, aint that right?
You lot take us for granted too fxcking much.


I don't wallow in the gutter of petty hatings like you and your lot neither am I living in the place you stated.
Go in peace and hey! Don't go effing on me dude.
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by omonnakoda: 7:26pm On Mar 24, 2013
Ibo Alakuko

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Nobody: 7:32pm On Mar 24, 2013
Ivynwa:


I don't wallow in the gutter of petty hatings like you and your lot neither am I living in the place you stated.
Go in peace and hey! Don't go effing on me dude.

Something like this?
Ivynwa:

Who wants to come close to people that pours bottled hatred as acid on you?

We get thrown bombs and hatred from different corners. Abeg we want our own country, we don't want to unite with those that hate us. Simple!
[quote author=Ivynwa]


HYPOCRITE MUCH?

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by TheBookWorm: 9:57pm On Mar 24, 2013
White007:

Going by what you wrote above, looks like you neither Yoruba nor Igbo. Am i right? If yes, where 're you from? #justAsking

I will simply say that my father is Nigerian and my mother is Black American. To be honest, it pains me to see the level of tribalism being displayed Nairaland for all the world to see.
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by omonnakoda: 10:39pm On Mar 24, 2013
TheBookWorm:

I will simply say that my father is Nigerian and my mother is Black American. To be honest, it pains me to see the level of tribalism being displayed Nairaland for all the world to see.

do you know what a tribe is
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by TheBookWorm: 11:18pm On Mar 24, 2013
omonnakoda:

do you know what a tribe is

I hate the term "tribe" when used in the African context. I prefer to hear ethnic group. But I have heard of A Tribe Call Quest. tongue
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by drlaykay(m): 11:24pm On Mar 24, 2013
ninja4life: In d real life yorubas and igbos are united but its d elite from both tribes playing on d intelligence of its people since most nigerians make political decision base on ethnicity
that's very true.I'm a consistent friend of Igbos.never thought about hurting anyone of them and vice versa.
I believe in d real life, yorubas are friends of the Igbos as u said.And yorubas regard the igbos dan d dey regard d hausas.Only to join Nairaland to discover serious hatred.I still need serious investigations into nairaland cos it seems causing enemity between the two ethnic groups promotes d site

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Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by Ivynwa(f): 12:53am On Mar 25, 2013
@django1

Power for mouth alone. Make una dey make a fool of the country before the whole world yabbing yourselves.
Re: Why Yorubas And Igbos Must Unite. by dayokanu(m): 1:04am On Mar 25, 2013
We have nothing to unite with people who would kill our leaders and spare theirs

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