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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by ninja4life(m): 12:48am On May 08, 2013
Nice analysis,YORUBA RULES HATERS CAN LICK OUR AZZ.FOOLS

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by dayokanu(m): 12:55am On May 08, 2013
Any party who takes the 6 block south west states wins this election.

The SS& SE know who they are voting same with the north

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by iconaus: 1:03am On May 08, 2013
ckkris: Lagos is where President Jonathan got significant votes from ibos, other easterners, & middle-belt people living there, and the same pattern will be repeated in 2015. No reasonable political calculation can ever rely on yorubas, who culturally like to say yes & no at the same time, and so keep their options open in order to join the winning side.

correct!
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by fckyourwoman: 1:05am On May 08, 2013
nuclearboy: Interesting!

And even more interesting is the ongoing conversation. Let me illustrate . . . ....

Hausa of 2013: "Yoruba man, flease malaam, we served you twuu tames. Kingibe served abiola and we follow him. Atiku served babasanjo and we follow him"

SS/SE of 2013: "Ewu gambia, anuofia, you and your masters together are nothing - we SE are better than you and we SS own the oil. All of you and your awusa masters are leeches drinking our blood and therefore you must vote us OR we scatter Nigeria. And if USA, Russia, GB, North Korea, Israel and Lebanon didnt support you, we would have cancelled you all with your oily soup"

Yoruba man: "Hmmmmm, 2015 please come quickly"


15 Naira to the first person who sees where this is going to

MY POINT: Sensible people make alliances! Foolish people fart from their mouths in the belief that makes them look tough


Worst translations.

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by musiwa26: 1:25am On May 08, 2013
Jonathan Goodluck have sieze all of their money worth $31 billion so that they can not contest the race.. and he gave them useless ministry.

Goodluck Jonathan have turn Yorubas to 4 class citizen..

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Kairoseki77: 1:28am On May 08, 2013
The hilarious thing is that NEITHER Buhari, or GEJ will actually help the common man in the street.

Rochas, Fashola, and Oshimole are the best candidates for ALL of us.

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by 1Dray(m): 1:31am On May 08, 2013
Senseless thread... Who cares?
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 1:38am On May 08, 2013
UPN is a tool in the hand of PDP but already dead on arrival, fasheun can't divide the SW

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by babymama3: 1:43am On May 08, 2013
I agree with this article to a large extent

Looking forward to a repeat of 2011 when Nuhu Ribadu was propped up and suddenly thrown under an Ekene bus last minute as Tinubu started courting Buhari
The Yoruba man in national politics can sway whichever way the wind blows
That is not necessarily a bad thing since that characteristic helped Goodluck in the long run cool cool cool
The candidates should just learn not to rely heavily on them because you never can be sure

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 1:45am On May 08, 2013
Whether u be hausa,kanuri,fulani,edo,Igbo and even naija delta self and you have decided to VOTE FOR buhari COME 2015 because of the cluelessness of the shoeless one,PLEASE CLICK LIKE

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 1:48am On May 08, 2013
ninja4life: Nice analysis,YORUBA RULES HATERS CAN LICK OUR AZZ.FOOLS
Lol, WTH?!
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by arabbaddo12: 2:01am On May 08, 2013
hmmmm political shit..abeg wetin go be go be jare.
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by bannykel: 2:10am On May 08, 2013
2015 is not for GEJ in S/W, once fooled can neva be fooled again. In 2011 durin gov electn we voted for parties and durin presi electn we voted for individual but GEJ has failed us.

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by PeterKbaba: 2:11am On May 08, 2013
Breaking News Okorocha as just defected to APC yesterday

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by skyfall: 2:16am On May 08, 2013
The analysis is correct. If APC field good candidates and work hard, SW will vote for them en masse and they'll win.
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Blueboy0402: 2:59am On May 08, 2013
The op actually took time to analyse the possible political permutation come 2015. As it stands GEJ will "capture" the SS/SE/NC. In the SW (Lagos) to be precise, the votes of the "18" million population will be shared because there is a large population of Igbos in Lagos. GEJ will therefore get votes from Igbos, Niger Deltans and Middle Beltans in Lagos being the "engine room" of the Yoruba. The same scenario will repeat itself in the remaining states of the SW.

The truth is the opposition only have the Yoruba (both christian and muslem) and Hausa/Fulani (only muslem as their christian will most likely vote GEJ). Once GEJ "captures" Lagos then the SW is already in his hand. The question is: will the population of ONLY Yorubas and muslem Hausa/Fulani get the opposition into Aso Villa come 2015?

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by PeterKbaba: 3:15am On May 08, 2013
Blueboy0402: The op actually took time to analyse the possible political permutation come 2015. As it stands GEJ will "capture" the SS/SE/NC. In the SW (Lagos) to be precise, the votes of the "18" million population will be shared because there is a large population of Igbos in Lagos. GEJ will therefore get votes from Igbos, Niger Deltans and Middle Beltans in Lagos being the "engine room" of the Yoruba. The same scenario will repeat itself in the remaining states of the SW.

The truth is the opposition only have the Yoruba (both christian and muslem) and Hausa/Fulani (only muslem as their christian will most likely vote GEJ). Once GEJ "captures" Lagos then the SW is already in his hand. The question is: will the population of ONLY Yorubas and muslem Hausa/Fulani get the opposition into Aso Villa come 2015?


BEFORE WRITING ALL THIS BULSH1T, ASK YOURSELF WHAT JONATHAN AS DONE FOR LAGOS AND ALL THE NIGERIAN TRIBES LIVING IN LAGOS OR SOUTHWEST?

I'M STILL WAITING!

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 3:16am On May 08, 2013
EKONGKING:

i think berem is closeted yoruba grin grin
M0R0N shocked shocked shocked....And you quoted the whole damn thing for that short phrase and two smiley?...wtf

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by maximunimpact(m): 3:27am On May 08, 2013
alexchiny: Yoruba intellectuals coming together to discuss politics! Wow! Am amazed! Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Bunch of illiterate bigots!

How can an informed man call yorubas illiterates? We all knw dat they are d cradle of academia and civilisation in Nigeria. Am nt political, but when it comes to literacy, Yoruba is d abode of intellectuals

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by EddyWorld(m): 3:27am On May 08, 2013
This is an incisive analysis and objectively and comprehensively written. Quite frankly, what Nigeria needs at this critical moment are effective leaders whether they be Christians or Muslims, but to be realistic, religion and ethnicity play great roles in electing our leaders. Aside from the religious point of view, a Shekarau-Fashiola or a Tambuwal-Fashola ticket will be a strong combination. I'm of the opinion that Buhari should play the role of a party leader given the fact that he is not much seen as a presidential material in the south. However, given that most of us vote along tribal and religious lines, maybe a Shekarau-Oshiomole or Tambuwal-Oshiomole combination might be the alternative if the south-west can vote in block, this combination will certainly give the PDP sleepless nights and much thought. First, Oshiomole is from the south-south the same region with Jonathan. If the South-West doesn't eventually switch to vote for Jonathan like they did in the 2011 election, I think this might eventually be the combination that will make the PDP rethink their strategies. Most certainly, the core north will flock to their own, south-south votes will be divided, hopefully south-west votes will significantly go to the opposition. Jonathan will be left with the north- central and south-east who predictably will vote in block as usual for him. All in all, it will be an interesting scenario to watch, but we must face the fact that anything can happen in Nigeria's politics as the PDP will not fold their hands and allow the opposition to wrest power from them. We still have a long way to go till 2015 and many things could redefine the political horizon. If the PDP house is divided against itself as the ensuing in-fighting in the governors forum lingers and eventually lead to a break away faction, then 2015 will be very interesting to watch.

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 3:30am On May 08, 2013
skyfall: The analysis is correct. If APC field good candidates and work hard, SW will vote for them en masse and they'll win.
nope, i don't think so because PDP will rig themselves in en mass and they must win cheesy cheesy

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Blueboy0402: 3:39am On May 08, 2013
PeterKbaba:


BEFORE WRITING ALL THIS BULSH1T, ASK YOURSELF WHAT JONATHAN AS DONE FOR LAGOS AND ALL THE NIGERIAN TRIBES LIVING IN LAGOS OR SOUTHWEST?

I'M STILL WAITING!
Did the Igbos, Niger Deltans and Middle Beltans living in Lagos and by extention the entire SW tell you GEJ has not done anything for them because of your alleged "marginalization" of the Yoruba? Or did they tell you they will not vote for GEJ come 2015? I suggest you put on your thinking cap before typing rubbish next time.

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by kaxhi: 3:41am On May 08, 2013
A gud analysis frm d op bt a senseless opinion/thread.I am amazed dat in dis era youth lyk us are still bent on putting tribalism,ethnicity,religion,region in electing a president dis country ȋ̝̊̅§ doomed and W̶̲̥̅̊Σ clamour for CHANGE.Wat abt integrity,values,backgrounds and performances in previous positions,strategies,goals and objectives.Wat dis country nid ȋ̝̊̅§ a credible leader dat solve d problems facing dis country presently (insecurity,power,unemployment,education and build our economy so as to b d best 20 economies of d world @2020).For mi I don't care where u come frm,religion,skin colour,region etc. I hav decided nt to vote untill I see a candidate dat ȋ̝̊̅§ worth my time and vote.if candidates lyk fashola/Rochas for APC,Godswill Akpabio/Tambuwal for PDP com 2015 dis are only d pple I can say are worth my votes cos d̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ are performing and hav forsight on where dis country ought to be.
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 3:43am On May 08, 2013
As soon as they settle the Yoruba number one agbero (use your tongue to count your teeth and tell yourself who this person is, i won't call names) the rest of the tribal bigots even the ones in NL would fall into line and so far GEJ would be more than willing to pay any price to remain in Aso rock ..... Nigeria can burn, who cares?

Yorubas plays politics of interest and not sentiment though colored with tribalism sometimes.

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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by musiwa26: 3:51am On May 08, 2013
because who ever wrote it.. believe there will be election in 2015.
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 4:29am On May 08, 2013
dayokanu: Any party who takes the 6 block south west states wins this election.

The SS& SE know who they are voting same with the north

Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by amAZEing: 4:49am On May 08, 2013
Beer Palour Talk.


berem: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins 2015 Presidency

The voting pattern of the Yoruba people of South-West geopolitical zone in the 2015 presidential election may determine who wins and who loses.


In 2011, even though the zone voted the Action Congress of Nigeria in all the elections, they voted more for the Peoples Democratic Party's candidate in the presidential election. That helped in no small way to swing victory for President Goodluck Jonathan.

Many had fingered the ACN leader, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, for that massive vote for Jonathan because of the last-minute discussions he reportedly had with the latter. But that would be saying that the South-West people are sheep that don't have their own mind. Weeks before the 2011 presidential election, even while talks were on between the Congress for Progressive Change and the ACN, many South-West people had made it clear that they would vote for Jonathan for the Presidency, even though they would vote the ACN in all other elections. The appreciable population of other non-Yoruba residents in the South-West also helped to increase the number of votes Jonathan garnered in the zone.

President Jonathan has not stated clearly whether he will contest the 2015 election. But his unspoken words seem to point more to the fact that he will contest than the other way. Even though he completed the remaining term of his former boss, the late President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua, after he died in office on May 5, 2010, and won an election in 2011, he is constitutionally qualified to run for office in 2015.

Ethnicity and religion play a great role in Nigerian politics, and they will play a role in the 2015 election. The North, especially the North-East and the North-West zones, has never hidden its sadness and anger over the loss of presidential power as a result of the illness and death of Yar'Adua. The North feels that it was cheated out of power. Some even alleged that the cheating was pre-planned by former President Olusegun Obasanjo with his choice of Yar'Adua, who was known to have a health condition. Supporters of power rotation felt that Jonathan should have completed Yar'Adua's term and allowed a Northerner to contest the presidency, so that the North could complete its eight years just like the South. There was some sense of justice in that viewpoint.

But Jonathan and many of his South-South people and some other Nigerians who opposed power rotation felt that given that the South-South or the entire Niger Delta region, the producer of Nigerian oil wealth, had not produced an elected president in Nigeria, even though the North had produced same many times, he should run for office for the sake of justice and fairness. There was also some sense of justice in that point of view. In addition, many wondered if Jonathan were not to contest for the presidency, would the Northerner that would take over from him do only a term and leave office, since Yar'Adua had done about three years of his four-year tenure?

There are those who believe that the rise in violence of the Boko Haram sect after the 2011 elections had direct links with that feeling of loss and cheating that the North had. Even though Boko Haram started as a religious sect, there is no denying that it has had political influence in recent times. Some people have even said that if Jonathan were to drop his political ambition for 2015, Boko Haram would fizzle out.

Before the run-up to the 2011 elections, Maj.-Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (retd.) and his Congress for Progressive Change, the major challenger to President Jonathan and his Peoples Democratic Party then, handled the merger talks with the Action Congress of Nigeria with some presumptuousness. They presumed that Jonathan would not win the election on the first ballot, since the South-South, South-East and some North-Central voters would vote for him, while the North-West (with its perceived high population) and the North-East would vote for Buhari, with the South-West voting for Mallam Nuhu Ribadu of the ACN, thereby making the election go into a second ballot. Even though the South-West vote was split between Jonathan and Ribadu, but with more going to Jonathan, that made it easier for him to win on the first ballot. That seemed to have taught Buhari and the CPC a lesson that working with the Yoruba and ACN was not just necessary but critical, if the PDP would ever be beaten. But it is true that the South-West vote did not come from only the Yoruba, given the high population of other-Southerners in the South-West, especially in Lagos.

And so, rather than wait till 2015 to commence merger talks, the CPC, ACN, ANPP and a part of the All Progressive Grand Allaince began early, which is a great plus. And rather than the hard lines that characterised the 2011 merger talks, the talks for the merger are being treated with more respect for each other as well as without any pre-conditions. Anybody who says that the PDP is not rattled by the merger talks of the All Progressives Congress is economical with the truth. The reason the PDP has ruled for 14 unbroken years is because the opposition parties had displayed disunity, pride and greed. Having a united opposition against the PDP is the first step towards thwarting the fulfilment of the prediction of Chief Vincent Ogbulafor in 2008 that the ruling party would rule Nigeria for 60 years!

For the 2015 elections, however, many scenarios exist. First, Jonathan may decide not to run, which is most unlikely. He may present himself for the primaries and lose to another candidate, given that some governors and former President Olusegun Obasanjo are working against his ambition. Even though this scenario will further show our democracy as exemplary, it is also far-fetched, as no Nigerian President has lost his party's primaries.

So, if Jonathan is running in 2015, the APC will be concerned about the team that can beat him. Buhari, Ribadu and Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau - all former presidential candidates of the merging parties - are possible candidates. Even a PDP member - the incumbent Speaker of the House of Representatives, Alhaji Aminu Tambuwal - has been mentioned as a possible candidate of the APC. In the South, there are Governors Babatunde Raji Fashola, Adams Oshiomhole, Rochas Okorocha, Tinubu and Senator Chris Ngige.

The combination that will likely attract the highest number of votes from the North and South-West may be that of Buhari-Fashola or Buhari-Tinubu. If Indeed Tambuwal is an option, combining with these two men from the South-West would also attract votes for the party. But there is a snag in that. The key figures from the North are all Muslims and the two key figures from the South-West are also Muslims. In the South-West, religion does not matter in politics. But in other parts of Nigeria, it does. Presenting a Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015 will not go down well with the North-Central, South-East, and South-South. Even though it worked in 1993 for the Abiola-Kingibe ticket, it will attract deep suspicion now. In 1993, even though there had been religious crises in Nigeria, there had not been anything on the scale of the current Boko Haram carnage. This is a serious point that the PDP will use - albeit surreptitiously - to campaign against the APC.

There is also the possibility of using an Igbo or South-Southerner as presidential or vice-presidential candidate to blunt the influence of Jonathan in those two regions. But the minus is that the North is so much focused on the Presidency now that any arrangement that does not have a Northerner as the presidential candidate in 2015 may not attract deep interest. A North-Central Christian presidential candidate with a Southern Muslim running mate is also an option. But it is no longer a secret that the one-North stance of the North died around 1975 when Gen. Yakubu Gowon was overthrown. The destiny of the North-Central or Middle Belt, as they are better known, and the rest of the North is not inextricably linked together anymore. The bloodletting in Plateau State since 2001 has worsened the situation. A Middle Belt Christian candidate will not sound to the North-East and North-West - which are most times referred to as the "core North" to further underscore that division - as a candidate that has come to assuage the feeling of cheating that the "core North" suffered by the loss of the presidency due to Yar'Adua's death.

The voting pattern of the South-East, South-South and North-Central may not change much if Jonathan contests in 2015. He may not garner as many votes as he did in 2011, depending on his performance and perception between now and 2015. If he is perceived as "improved" in his performance between now and 2015, his chances will be brighter. But if the APC makes a strategic choice of presidential candidate and running mate, the APC will be a major threat. Whatever happens, whoever the Yoruba vote for en masse may have an advantage. And it is obvious that the PDP and APC are aware of this and are consequently courting the Yoruba.

The Yoruba have another advantage. They are the only group in Nigeria that has been happy being in the opposition. Other ethnic groups usually feel like a fish out of water whenever out of power. So they will take their time to decide on whom to support. Gradually, the Yoruba are moving to the centre of Nigerian politics on their own terms. Even if they fail to rule in 2015 because of the unwritten agreement of rotation of power between the North and the South, they will have a strong hand in determining who occupies Aso Rock come 2015.


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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Omexonomy: 5:44am On May 08, 2013
berem: If you got nothing to say, just shut the hell up. This is a sensitive topic and only intellectuals are allowed to make comments. now ,run along to the viewer's corner where you have always been and keep quiet! angry
you don remove the bomb wey dey ur yansh
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Omexonomy: 6:00am On May 08, 2013
alexchiny: Yoruba intellectuals coming together to discuss politics! Wow! Am amazed! Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Bunch of illiterate bigots!
dont mind them they are bunch of amala and ewedu bigot.

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