Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 8:19am On May 08, 2013 |
The article is balanced and fair. The writer also made it categorically clear that GEJ won fair and square in the southwest in 2011 on his own merit, and not because of any help from Tinubu. Before the 2011 elections was even conducted, all the polls showed GEJ would win in Lagos. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/03/noi-poll-jonathan-fashola-lead-survey-for-april-elections/http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/noi-poll-53-nigerians-think-jonathan-ll-win/88321/And those polls were done like 2months before the election proper. But I think the writer should have used "southwest" rather than "yoruba". Throughout the article, the writer referred to other parts of the country by geopolitical zones- southeast, core north, middle belt,etc., not Igbo, hausa,etc But when it came to a certain part of the country, the writer used Yoruba, instead of southwest or west. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by whatzbyafria(m): 8:24am On May 08, 2013 |
andresia: To what purpose is this thread? An opening for tribal bashing? You need to get a life @op SO POLITICS SHOULD NO LONGER BE TALKED ABOUT AGAIN IN NAIRALAND AS A RESULT OF THE BELIEF OF SOME PEOPLE THAT IT IS ''FOR TRIBAL BASHING''?!?!?!?! |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Esss(m): 8:24am On May 08, 2013 |
Yoruba determine what?! Nigga Puleeeze!
#Jonathan would so sweep the next polls, CPC abi APC would not even know what hit them.
#Team Fresh Air..
#No retreat, No Amnesty! 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by whatzbyafria(m): 8:25am On May 08, 2013 |
mike404: Arrant nonsense What!, are you Nigeria?!?!?! |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by myola(m): 8:41am On May 08, 2013 |
tomakint: Sorry to burst your bubble, the gods are dead only one name can save you and that name is JESUS all those clowns you mentioned above were mere mortals like you who have since passed on, Captain Caveman! And jesus as not passed on ? He lives in ajegunle abi ? 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by funnyx(m): 8:45am On May 08, 2013 |
oddy4real: We Yorubas have to be the most arrogant and ethnocentric people created by God. We have this 'I-TOO-KNOW' wahala. See dem Gbawe and Berem analysing politics like it is mathematics. Who told them that most of us Yorubas would vote for the APC? Who told them we are following Tinubu? If GEJ doesn't win in 2015, I would shut down my Law Practice and return my practising certificate May be your lineage is the most arrogant set of people in Nigeria, that na your own problem. And if GEJ doesn't win in 2015 no need to close your virtual law firm you may as well get a rope and hang yourself like a real man. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by yeboyes: 8:51am On May 08, 2013 |
[size=15pt]Is it not about time we stop caring which tribe our next leader comes from and instead start scrutinizing the available candidates and choosing the the best man for the jon. I am a Yoruba myself but i will support an Hausa or Igbo president if i could find one who is credible.The biggest problem we ave in our politics is tribalism.
Igbos want the next president to be Igbo because they we ave never ad Igbo president not because they have a candidate they can trust.The SS want Jonathan to remain as president just because e is SS even though he as done very little to move Nigeria forward.[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by tomakint: 8:52am On May 08, 2013 |
The political permutation of the writer of this article is warped to say the least! Jonathan will claim the lead in SS, SE, NC, get reasonable votes in NE, NW and SW and will definitely win in Oyo, Ekiti and Ondo States! You can quote me and tell your friends, I said it |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Esss(m): 8:57am On May 08, 2013 |
tomakint: The political permutation of the writer of this article is warped to say the least! Jonathan will claim the lead in SS, SE, NC, get reasonable votes in NE, NW and SW and will definitely win in Oyo, Ekiti and Ondo States! You can quote me and tell your friends, I said it I see a Ministerial position in your future.. |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 8:58am On May 08, 2013 |
Interesting read... tomakint: The political permutation of the writer of this article is warped to say the least! Jonathan will claim the lead in SS, SE, NC, get reasonable votes in NE, NW and SW and will definitely win in Oyo, Ekiti and Ondo States! You can quote me and tell your friends, I said it ^^^You're the reincarnation of Nostradamus, ain't ya? I think the assertion in the article is the right political permutation since the Yoruba's are most politically sophisticated group in the country... Hate them all you want, but you can't take that away from them... 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 8:59am On May 08, 2013 |
maximunimpact:
How can an informed man call yorubas illiterates? We all knw dat they are d cradle of academia and civilisation in Nigeria. Am nt political, but when it comes to literacy, Yoruba is d abode of intellectuals story.but d truth is dat 70% of Yorubas in niger state dosnt understand english. |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Inik(m): 9:01am On May 08, 2013 |
Edited |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Inik(m): 9:02am On May 08, 2013 |
I disagree entirely with this article |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by gerald09(m): 9:04am On May 08, 2013 |
I fink its time put into constitution a rotation for presidency dat way it reduces the ethnic rivalry. 1 part of the zone provides 5 candidates and the rest of the zones get to vote 1 out of the 5 for president, the VP are selected by the candidates from the other zones and the senate president would be selected from the zone that is next in line. After 6 years. For example if it time for the South west to rule they provide 5 candidates then each of the 5 candidates selects a VP from either the SS,SE,NC,NW and NE. After the SW have finished its 6 years single term its becomes the turn of the SE n also the senate president comes from the SE b4 the SW tenure is ova n it continues like dat, dat way every part of Nigeria gets to rule. This tribal hate will neva stop until Ѿε̲̣̣̣̥ learn how to share dis country, this same hate happen in the past and Ѿε̲̣̣̣̥ lost over 3 million Nigerian, I don't want to see the children suffer cos their parent are covered in greed. |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by aquabeing: 9:05am On May 08, 2013 |
alexchiny: Senseless thread opened by a jobless rat! MODS please put this thread in the trash can! U just want to be heared.Ok na,we don see you |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 9:07am On May 08, 2013 |
Solozzo:
The very title of the post smacks tribalism. If u support this u are a bloody tribalist! That is why i said intellectually minded people should comment. If you got nothing to say, STFU! |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by oddy4real(m): 9:08am On May 08, 2013 |
funnyx:
May be your lineage is the most arrogant set of people in Nigeria, that na your own problem. And if GEJ doesn't win in 2015 no need to close your virtual law firm you may as well get a rope and hang yourself like a real man. Aunty, dont cry. i am a Yoruba boy, i have a Fulani mother and i have lived with the IGBOS whom i must confess are very wonderful people. Yorubas feel that because of their education, they know everything. this is an open secret sister. And yes! Jonathan would be back in 2015. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Afam4eva(m): 9:08am On May 08, 2013 |
The gospel truth is that no matter the theatrics of the APC, it's obvious GEJ is gonna win in 2015 though by a smaller margin than he did the last time. Though wanting him back on that seat is another thing. |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 9:10am On May 08, 2013 |
Tribalism, Regionalism and Nepotism are systemic dysfunctions in ANY Democracy, however, its a virture in the Nigerian Opposition (APC wanna-be). Its a FAT shame! Meanwhile, One man - One Vote, is what it boils down to when it comes to Democracy. So Yoruba or any other tribe is mute when it comes to Democracy. Those who propagate tribalism, do so, because "Crows Fly in Group" but Eagles Fly Alone. Political Crows have no individual strength but seek to gather as many weaklings as possible to make a single impact.
There is NO bloc vote called Yoruba Vote. So in essence, GEJ will eventually emerge PDP's Candidate for 2015 Elections and I am yet to see 'that' person in 'APC wanna be' that has to prowess to win GEJ in a Free and Fair Election. Let's be fair, there is NO ONE out there. GEJ wins, others mourn. |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Cutekid54: 9:10am On May 08, 2013 |
CuntEater: As soon as they settle the Yoruba number one agbero (use your tongue to count your teeth and tell yourself who this person is, i won't call names) the rest of the tribal bigots even the ones in NL would fall into line and so far GEJ would be more than willing to pay any price to remain in Aso rock ..... Nigeria can burn, who cares?
Yorubas plays politics of interest and not sentiment though colored with tribalism sometimes. ... I disagree |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Gbawe: 9:11am On May 08, 2013 |
myola:
And jesus as not passed on ? He lives in ajegunle abi ?
Abi OO. Were Jesus and Mohammed not "mortals" too and could Christianity and Islam not have been the creation of the imagination of men? This is one of the most classic signs of lack of critical intelligence and poor exposure. I.e frowning upon the religion of others, whatever it is, to claim one's own religion is superior. This is the cause of many headaches of humanity from the past till today. That is why some of the brightest men in the world are atheist or apathetic towards religion. Look at African nations. Many are over-religious to a fault yet they are cesspits of corruption, evil, savagery and the sheer wickedness of man towards his fellow man. 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Cutekid54: 9:12am On May 08, 2013 |
amAZEing: Beer Palour Talk.
.... God know say u nor get sense so u had to quote d whole damn story so as to write d@ shit u put up dere. |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by tomakint: 9:22am On May 08, 2013 |
oddy4real: We Yorubas have to be the most arrogant and ethnocentric people created by God. We have this 'I-TOO-KNOW' wahala. See dem Gbawe and Berem analysing politics like it is mathematics. Who told them that most of us Yorubas would vote for the APC? Who told them we are following Tinubu? If GEJ doesn't win in 2015, I would shut down my Law Practice and return my practising certificate Omo Iya mi, iku o ni pa e lewe, wa dagba, wa gbo, wa to o, iwo loo ri ehin awon ota ree ni oruko Jesu Kristi Oluwa wa Amin! Now to your beautiful point Oddy4real, the many typically-bent Yorubas here always assume they know it all, hence all Yorubas must follow suit when it is crystal clear that they were the ones heading for the bush! I wonder on earth, why would someone expect Yorubas to determine the fate of our next President, I can only continue to laugh at this thread and those who blindly support its warped contents! Oddy4real wa sere padi mi! |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 9:22am On May 08, 2013 |
If APC present buhari/tinubu/ribadu,gej wil get massive votes from ss/se |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Chinom(m): 9:23am On May 08, 2013 |
Yes, but in favour of Ebele Jonathan. This APC thing will soooo blow in their face that GEJ will win comfortably if he chooses to run. I see a lot of confusion round the corner for the APC. PDP may even take back Lagos. |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 9:27am On May 08, 2013 |
ninja4life: Nice analysis,YORUBA RULES HATERS CAN LICK OUR AZZ.FOOLS Well, it deeply depends on d people ur planning to rule |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by tomakint: 9:30am On May 08, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Tribalism, Regionalism and Nepotism are systemic dysfunctions in ANY Democracy, however, its a virture in the Nigerian Opposition (APC wanna-be). Its a FAT shame! Meanwhile, One man - One Vote, is what it boils down to when it comes to Democracy. So Yoruba or any other tribe is mute when it comes to Democracy. Those who propagate tribalism, do so, because "Crows Fly in Group" but Eagles Fly Alone. Political Crows have no individual strength but seek to gather as many weaklings as possible to make a single impact.
There is NO bloc vote called Yoruba Vote. So in essence, GEJ will eventually emerge PDP's Candidate for 2015 Elections and I am yet to see 'that' person in 'APC wanna be' that has to prowess to win GEJ in a Free and Fair Election. Let's be fair, there is NO ONE out there. GEJ wins, others mourn. Omo see analysis from a brilliant chap, I just gbadun this guy! |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Nobody: 9:31am On May 08, 2013 |
Chinom: Yes, but in favour of Ebele Jonathan. This APC thing will soooo blow in their face that GEJ will win comfortably if he chooses to run. I see a lot of confusion round the corner for the APC. PDP may even take back Lagos. They never had it before,I wonder why the so called huge population of non yoruba voters in SW have not changed that status quo! |
Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Chinexng(m): 9:32am On May 08, 2013 |
berem: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins 2015 Presidency
The voting pattern of the Yoruba people of South-West geopolitical zone in the 2015 presidential election may determine who wins and who loses.
In 2011, even though the zone voted the Action Congress of Nigeria in all the elections, they voted more for the Peoples Democratic Party's candidate in the presidential election. That helped in no small way to swing victory for President Goodluck Jonathan.
Many had fingered the ACN leader, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, for that massive vote for Jonathan because of the last-minute discussions he reportedly had with the latter. But that would be saying that the South-West people are sheep that don't have their own mind. Weeks before the 2011 presidential election, even while talks were on between the Congress for Progressive Change and the ACN, many South-West people had made it clear that they would vote for Jonathan for the Presidency, even though they would vote the ACN in all other elections. The appreciable population of other non-Yoruba residents in the South-West also helped to increase the number of votes Jonathan garnered in the zone.
President Jonathan has not stated clearly whether he will contest the 2015 election. But his unspoken words seem to point more to the fact that he will contest than the other way. Even though he completed the remaining term of his former boss, the late President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua, after he died in office on May 5, 2010, and won an election in 2011, he is constitutionally qualified to run for office in 2015.
Ethnicity and religion play a great role in Nigerian politics, and they will play a role in the 2015 election. The North, especially the North-East and the North-West zones, has never hidden its sadness and anger over the loss of presidential power as a result of the illness and death of Yar'Adua. The North feels that it was cheated out of power. Some even alleged that the cheating was pre-planned by former President Olusegun Obasanjo with his choice of Yar'Adua, who was known to have a health condition. Supporters of power rotation felt that Jonathan should have completed Yar'Adua's term and allowed a Northerner to contest the presidency, so that the North could complete its eight years just like the South. There was some sense of justice in that viewpoint.
But Jonathan and many of his South-South people and some other Nigerians who opposed power rotation felt that given that the South-South or the entire Niger Delta region, the producer of Nigerian oil wealth, had not produced an elected president in Nigeria, even though the North had produced same many times, he should run for office for the sake of justice and fairness. There was also some sense of justice in that point of view. In addition, many wondered if Jonathan were not to contest for the presidency, would the Northerner that would take over from him do only a term and leave office, since Yar'Adua had done about three years of his four-year tenure?
There are those who believe that the rise in violence of the Boko Haram sect after the 2011 elections had direct links with that feeling of loss and cheating that the North had. Even though Boko Haram started as a religious sect, there is no denying that it has had political influence in recent times. Some people have even said that if Jonathan were to drop his political ambition for 2015, Boko Haram would fizzle out.
Before the run-up to the 2011 elections, Maj.-Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (retd.) and his Congress for Progressive Change, the major challenger to President Jonathan and his Peoples Democratic Party then, handled the merger talks with the Action Congress of Nigeria with some presumptuousness. They presumed that Jonathan would not win the election on the first ballot, since the South-South, South-East and some North-Central voters would vote for him, while the North-West (with its perceived high population) and the North-East would vote for Buhari, with the South-West voting for Mallam Nuhu Ribadu of the ACN, thereby making the election go into a second ballot. Even though the South-West vote was split between Jonathan and Ribadu, but with more going to Jonathan, that made it easier for him to win on the first ballot. That seemed to have taught Buhari and the CPC a lesson that working with the Yoruba and ACN was not just necessary but critical, if the PDP would ever be beaten. But it is true that the South-West vote did not come from only the Yoruba, given the high population of other-Southerners in the South-West, especially in Lagos.
And so, rather than wait till 2015 to commence merger talks, the CPC, ACN, ANPP and a part of the All Progressive Grand Allaince began early, which is a great plus. And rather than the hard lines that characterised the 2011 merger talks, the talks for the merger are being treated with more respect for each other as well as without any pre-conditions. Anybody who says that the PDP is not rattled by the merger talks of the All Progressives Congress is economical with the truth. The reason the PDP has ruled for 14 unbroken years is because the opposition parties had displayed disunity, pride and greed. Having a united opposition against the PDP is the first step towards thwarting the fulfilment of the prediction of Chief Vincent Ogbulafor in 2008 that the ruling party would rule Nigeria for 60 years!
For the 2015 elections, however, many scenarios exist. First, Jonathan may decide not to run, which is most unlikely. He may present himself for the primaries and lose to another candidate, given that some governors and former President Olusegun Obasanjo are working against his ambition. Even though this scenario will further show our democracy as exemplary, it is also far-fetched, as no Nigerian President has lost his party's primaries.
So, if Jonathan is running in 2015, the APC will be concerned about the team that can beat him. Buhari, Ribadu and Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau - all former presidential candidates of the merging parties - are possible candidates. Even a PDP member - the incumbent Speaker of the House of Representatives, Alhaji Aminu Tambuwal - has been mentioned as a possible candidate of the APC. In the South, there are Governors Babatunde Raji Fashola, Adams Oshiomhole, Rochas Okorocha, Tinubu and Senator Chris Ngige.
The combination that will likely attract the highest number of votes from the North and South-West may be that of Buhari-Fashola or Buhari-Tinubu. If Indeed Tambuwal is an option, combining with these two men from the South-West would also attract votes for the party. But there is a snag in that. The key figures from the North are all Muslims and the two key figures from the South-West are also Muslims. In the South-West, religion does not matter in politics. But in other parts of Nigeria, it does. Presenting a Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015 will not go down well with the North-Central, South-East, and South-South. Even though it worked in 1993 for the Abiola-Kingibe ticket, it will attract deep suspicion now. In 1993, even though there had been religious crises in Nigeria, there had not been anything on the scale of the current Boko Haram carnage. This is a serious point that the PDP will use - albeit surreptitiously - to campaign against the APC.
There is also the possibility of using an Igbo or South-Southerner as presidential or vice-presidential candidate to blunt the influence of Jonathan in those two regions. But the minus is that the North is so much focused on the Presidency now that any arrangement that does not have a Northerner as the presidential candidate in 2015 may not attract deep interest. A North-Central Christian presidential candidate with a Southern Muslim running mate is also an option. But it is no longer a secret that the one-North stance of the North died around 1975 when Gen. Yakubu Gowon was overthrown. The destiny of the North-Central or Middle Belt, as they are better known, and the rest of the North is not inextricably linked together anymore. The bloodletting in Plateau State since 2001 has worsened the situation. A Middle Belt Christian candidate will not sound to the North-East and North-West - which are most times referred to as the "core North" to further underscore that division - as a candidate that has come to assuage the feeling of cheating that the "core North" suffered by the loss of the presidency due to Yar'Adua's death.
The voting pattern of the South-East, South-South and North-Central may not change much if Jonathan contests in 2015. He may not garner as many votes as he did in 2011, depending on his performance and perception between now and 2015. If he is perceived as "improved" in his performance between now and 2015, his chances will be brighter. But if the APC makes a strategic choice of presidential candidate and running mate, the APC will be a major threat. Whatever happens, whoever the Yoruba vote for en masse may have an advantage. And it is obvious that the PDP and APC are aware of this and are consequently courting the Yoruba.
The Yoruba have another advantage. They are the only group in Nigeria that has been happy being in the opposition. Other ethnic groups usually feel like a fish out of water whenever out of power. So they will take their time to decide on whom to support. Gradually, the Yoruba are moving to the centre of Nigerian politics on their own terms. Even if they fail to rule in 2015 because of the unwritten agreement of rotation of power between the North and the South, they will have a strong hand in determining who occupies Aso Rock come 2015.
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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Chinexng(m): 9:33am On May 08, 2013 |
berem: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins 2015 Presidency
The voting pattern of the Yoruba people of South-West geopolitical zone in the 2015 presidential election may determine who wins and who loses.
In 2011, even though the zone voted the Action Congress of Nigeria in all the elections, they voted more for the Peoples Democratic Party's candidate in the presidential election. That helped in no small way to swing victory for President Goodluck Jonathan.
Many had fingered the ACN leader, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, for that massive vote for Jonathan because of the last-minute discussions he reportedly had with the latter. But that would be saying that the South-West people are sheep that don't have their own mind. Weeks before the 2011 presidential election, even while talks were on between the Congress for Progressive Change and the ACN, many South-West people had made it clear that they would vote for Jonathan for the Presidency, even though they would vote the ACN in all other elections. The appreciable population of other non-Yoruba residents in the South-West also helped to increase the number of votes Jonathan garnered in the zone.
President Jonathan has not stated clearly whether he will contest the 2015 election. But his unspoken words seem to point more to the fact that he will contest than the other way. Even though he completed the remaining term of his former boss, the late President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua, after he died in office on May 5, 2010, and won an election in 2011, he is constitutionally qualified to run for office in 2015.
Ethnicity and religion play a great role in Nigerian politics, and they will play a role in the 2015 election. The North, especially the North-East and the North-West zones, has never hidden its sadness and anger over the loss of presidential power as a result of the illness and death of Yar'Adua. The North feels that it was cheated out of power. Some even alleged that the cheating was pre-planned by former President Olusegun Obasanjo with his choice of Yar'Adua, who was known to have a health condition. Supporters of power rotation felt that Jonathan should have completed Yar'Adua's term and allowed a Northerner to contest the presidency, so that the North could complete its eight years just like the South. There was some sense of justice in that viewpoint.
But Jonathan and many of his South-South people and some other Nigerians who opposed power rotation felt that given that the South-South or the entire Niger Delta region, the producer of Nigerian oil wealth, had not produced an elected president in Nigeria, even though the North had produced same many times, he should run for office for the sake of justice and fairness. There was also some sense of justice in that point of view. In addition, many wondered if Jonathan were not to contest for the presidency, would the Northerner that would take over from him do only a term and leave office, since Yar'Adua had done about three years of his four-year tenure?
There are those who believe that the rise in violence of the Boko Haram sect after the 2011 elections had direct links with that feeling of loss and cheating that the North had. Even though Boko Haram started as a religious sect, there is no denying that it has had political influence in recent times. Some people have even said that if Jonathan were to drop his political ambition for 2015, Boko Haram would fizzle out.
Before the run-up to the 2011 elections, Maj.-Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (retd.) and his Congress for Progressive Change, the major challenger to President Jonathan and his Peoples Democratic Party then, handled the merger talks with the Action Congress of Nigeria with some presumptuousness. They presumed that Jonathan would not win the election on the first ballot, since the South-South, South-East and some North-Central voters would vote for him, while the North-West (with its perceived high population) and the North-East would vote for Buhari, with the South-West voting for Mallam Nuhu Ribadu of the ACN, thereby making the election go into a second ballot. Even though the South-West vote was split between Jonathan and Ribadu, but with more going to Jonathan, that made it easier for him to win on the first ballot. That seemed to have taught Buhari and the CPC a lesson that working with the Yoruba and ACN was not just necessary but critical, if the PDP would ever be beaten. But it is true that the South-West vote did not come from only the Yoruba, given the high population of other-Southerners in the South-West, especially in Lagos.
And so, rather than wait till 2015 to commence merger talks, the CPC, ACN, ANPP and a part of the All Progressive Grand Allaince began early, which is a great plus. And rather than the hard lines that characterised the 2011 merger talks, the talks for the merger are being treated with more respect for each other as well as without any pre-conditions. Anybody who says that the PDP is not rattled by the merger talks of the All Progressives Congress is economical with the truth. The reason the PDP has ruled for 14 unbroken years is because the opposition parties had displayed disunity, pride and greed. Having a united opposition against the PDP is the first step towards thwarting the fulfilment of the prediction of Chief Vincent Ogbulafor in 2008 that the ruling party would rule Nigeria for 60 years!
For the 2015 elections, however, many scenarios exist. First, Jonathan may decide not to run, which is most unlikely. He may present himself for the primaries and lose to another candidate, given that some governors and former President Olusegun Obasanjo are working against his ambition. Even though this scenario will further show our democracy as exemplary, it is also far-fetched, as no Nigerian President has lost his party's primaries.
So, if Jonathan is running in 2015, the APC will be concerned about the team that can beat him. Buhari, Ribadu and Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau - all former presidential candidates of the merging parties - are possible candidates. Even a PDP member - the incumbent Speaker of the House of Representatives, Alhaji Aminu Tambuwal - has been mentioned as a possible candidate of the APC. In the South, there are Governors Babatunde Raji Fashola, Adams Oshiomhole, Rochas Okorocha, Tinubu and Senator Chris Ngige.
The combination that will likely attract the highest number of votes from the North and South-West may be that of Buhari-Fashola or Buhari-Tinubu. If Indeed Tambuwal is an option, combining with these two men from the South-West would also attract votes for the party. But there is a snag in that. The key figures from the North are all Muslims and the two key figures from the South-West are also Muslims. In the South-West, religion does not matter in politics. But in other parts of Nigeria, it does. Presenting a Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015 will not go down well with the North-Central, South-East, and South-South. Even though it worked in 1993 for the Abiola-Kingibe ticket, it will attract deep suspicion now. In 1993, even though there had been religious crises in Nigeria, there had not been anything on the scale of the current Boko Haram carnage. This is a serious point that the PDP will use - albeit surreptitiously - to campaign against the APC.
There is also the possibility of using an Igbo or South-Southerner as presidential or vice-presidential candidate to blunt the influence of Jonathan in those two regions. But the minus is that the North is so much focused on the Presidency now that any arrangement that does not have a Northerner as the presidential candidate in 2015 may not attract deep interest. A North-Central Christian presidential candidate with a Southern Muslim running mate is also an option. But it is no longer a secret that the one-North stance of the North died around 1975 when Gen. Yakubu Gowon was overthrown. The destiny of the North-Central or Middle Belt, as they are better known, and the rest of the North is not inextricably linked together anymore. The bloodletting in Plateau State since 2001 has worsened the situation. A Middle Belt Christian candidate will not sound to the North-East and North-West - which are most times referred to as the "core North" to further underscore that division - as a candidate that has come to assuage the feeling of cheating that the "core North" suffered by the loss of the presidency due to Yar'Adua's death.
The voting pattern of the South-East, South-South and North-Central may not change much if Jonathan contests in 2015. He may not garner as many votes as he did in 2011, depending on his performance and perception between now and 2015. If he is perceived as "improved" in his performance between now and 2015, his chances will be brighter. But if the APC makes a strategic choice of presidential candidate and running mate, the APC will be a major threat. Whatever happens, whoever the Yoruba vote for en masse may have an advantage. And it is obvious that the PDP and APC are aware of this and are consequently courting the Yoruba.
The Yoruba have another advantage. They are the only group in Nigeria that has been happy being in the opposition. Other ethnic groups usually feel like a fish out of water whenever out of power. So they will take their time to decide on whom to support. Gradually, the Yoruba are moving to the centre of Nigerian politics on their own terms. Even if they fail to rule in 2015 because of the unwritten agreement of rotation of power between the North and the South, they will have a strong hand in determining who occupies Aso Rock come 2015.
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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Chinexng(m): 9:33am On May 08, 2013 |
berem: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins 2015 Presidency
The voting pattern of the Yoruba people of South-West geopolitical zone in the 2015 presidential election may determine who wins and who loses.
In 2011, even though the zone voted the Action Congress of Nigeria in all the elections, they voted more for the Peoples Democratic Party's candidate in the presidential election. That helped in no small way to swing victory for President Goodluck Jonathan.
Many had fingered the ACN leader, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, for that massive vote for Jonathan because of the last-minute discussions he reportedly had with the latter. But that would be saying that the South-West people are sheep that don't have their own mind. Weeks before the 2011 presidential election, even while talks were on between the Congress for Progressive Change and the ACN, many South-West people had made it clear that they would vote for Jonathan for the Presidency, even though they would vote the ACN in all other elections. The appreciable population of other non-Yoruba residents in the South-West also helped to increase the number of votes Jonathan garnered in the zone.
President Jonathan has not stated clearly whether he will contest the 2015 election. But his unspoken words seem to point more to the fact that he will contest than the other way. Even though he completed the remaining term of his former boss, the late President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua, after he died in office on May 5, 2010, and won an election in 2011, he is constitutionally qualified to run for office in 2015.
Ethnicity and religion play a great role in Nigerian politics, and they will play a role in the 2015 election. The North, especially the North-East and the North-West zones, has never hidden its sadness and anger over the loss of presidential power as a result of the illness and death of Yar'Adua. The North feels that it was cheated out of power. Some even alleged that the cheating was pre-planned by former President Olusegun Obasanjo with his choice of Yar'Adua, who was known to have a health condition. Supporters of power rotation felt that Jonathan should have completed Yar'Adua's term and allowed a Northerner to contest the presidency, so that the North could complete its eight years just like the South. There was some sense of justice in that viewpoint.
But Jonathan and many of his South-South people and some other Nigerians who opposed power rotation felt that given that the South-South or the entire Niger Delta region, the producer of Nigerian oil wealth, had not produced an elected president in Nigeria, even though the North had produced same many times, he should run for office for the sake of justice and fairness. There was also some sense of justice in that point of view. In addition, many wondered if Jonathan were not to contest for the presidency, would the Northerner that would take over from him do only a term and leave office, since Yar'Adua had done about three years of his four-year tenure?
There are those who believe that the rise in violence of the Boko Haram sect after the 2011 elections had direct links with that feeling of loss and cheating that the North had. Even though Boko Haram started as a religious sect, there is no denying that it has had political influence in recent times. Some people have even said that if Jonathan were to drop his political ambition for 2015, Boko Haram would fizzle out.
Before the run-up to the 2011 elections, Maj.-Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (retd.) and his Congress for Progressive Change, the major challenger to President Jonathan and his Peoples Democratic Party then, handled the merger talks with the Action Congress of Nigeria with some presumptuousness. They presumed that Jonathan would not win the election on the first ballot, since the South-South, South-East and some North-Central voters would vote for him, while the North-West (with its perceived high population) and the North-East would vote for Buhari, with the South-West voting for Mallam Nuhu Ribadu of the ACN, thereby making the election go into a second ballot. Even though the South-West vote was split between Jonathan and Ribadu, but with more going to Jonathan, that made it easier for him to win on the first ballot. That seemed to have taught Buhari and the CPC a lesson that working with the Yoruba and ACN was not just necessary but critical, if the PDP would ever be beaten. But it is true that the South-West vote did not come from only the Yoruba, given the high population of other-Southerners in the South-West, especially in Lagos.
And so, rather than wait till 2015 to commence merger talks, the CPC, ACN, ANPP and a part of the All Progressive Grand Allaince began early, which is a great plus. And rather than the hard lines that characterised the 2011 merger talks, the talks for the merger are being treated with more respect for each other as well as without any pre-conditions. Anybody who says that the PDP is not rattled by the merger talks of the All Progressives Congress is economical with the truth. The reason the PDP has ruled for 14 unbroken years is because the opposition parties had displayed disunity, pride and greed. Having a united opposition against the PDP is the first step towards thwarting the fulfilment of the prediction of Chief Vincent Ogbulafor in 2008 that the ruling party would rule Nigeria for 60 years!
For the 2015 elections, however, many scenarios exist. First, Jonathan may decide not to run, which is most unlikely. He may present himself for the primaries and lose to another candidate, given that some governors and former President Olusegun Obasanjo are working against his ambition. Even though this scenario will further show our democracy as exemplary, it is also far-fetched, as no Nigerian President has lost his party's primaries.
So, if Jonathan is running in 2015, the APC will be concerned about the team that can beat him. Buhari, Ribadu and Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau - all former presidential candidates of the merging parties - are possible candidates. Even a PDP member - the incumbent Speaker of the House of Representatives, Alhaji Aminu Tambuwal - has been mentioned as a possible candidate of the APC. In the South, there are Governors Babatunde Raji Fashola, Adams Oshiomhole, Rochas Okorocha, Tinubu and Senator Chris Ngige.
The combination that will likely attract the highest number of votes from the North and South-West may be that of Buhari-Fashola or Buhari-Tinubu. If Indeed Tambuwal is an option, combining with these two men from the South-West would also attract votes for the party. But there is a snag in that. The key figures from the North are all Muslims and the two key figures from the South-West are also Muslims. In the South-West, religion does not matter in politics. But in other parts of Nigeria, it does. Presenting a Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015 will not go down well with the North-Central, South-East, and South-South. Even though it worked in 1993 for the Abiola-Kingibe ticket, it will attract deep suspicion now. In 1993, even though there had been religious crises in Nigeria, there had not been anything on the scale of the current Boko Haram carnage. This is a serious point that the PDP will use - albeit surreptitiously - to campaign against the APC.
There is also the possibility of using an Igbo or South-Southerner as presidential or vice-presidential candidate to blunt the influence of Jonathan in those two regions. But the minus is that the North is so much focused on the Presidency now that any arrangement that does not have a Northerner as the presidential candidate in 2015 may not attract deep interest. A North-Central Christian presidential candidate with a Southern Muslim running mate is also an option. But it is no longer a secret that the one-North stance of the North died around 1975 when Gen. Yakubu Gowon was overthrown. The destiny of the North-Central or Middle Belt, as they are better known, and the rest of the North is not inextricably linked together anymore. The bloodletting in Plateau State since 2001 has worsened the situation. A Middle Belt Christian candidate will not sound to the North-East and North-West - which are most times referred to as the "core North" to further underscore that division - as a candidate that has come to assuage the feeling of cheating that the "core North" suffered by the loss of the presidency due to Yar'Adua's death.
The voting pattern of the South-East, South-South and North-Central may not change much if Jonathan contests in 2015. He may not garner as many votes as he did in 2011, depending on his performance and perception between now and 2015. If he is perceived as "improved" in his performance between now and 2015, his chances will be brighter. But if the APC makes a strategic choice of presidential candidate and running mate, the APC will be a major threat. Whatever happens, whoever the Yoruba vote for en masse may have an advantage. And it is obvious that the PDP and APC are aware of this and are consequently courting the Yoruba.
The Yoruba have another advantage. They are the only group in Nigeria that has been happy being in the opposition. Other ethnic groups usually feel like a fish out of water whenever out of power. So they will take their time to decide on whom to support. Gradually, the Yoruba are moving to the centre of Nigerian politics on their own terms. Even if they fail to rule in 2015 because of the unwritten agreement of rotation of power between the North and the South, they will have a strong hand in determining who occupies Aso Rock come 2015.
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Re: Yoruba May Determine Who Wins The Presidency In 2015 by Gbawe: 9:37am On May 08, 2013 |
gerald09: I fink its time put into constitution a rotation for presidency dat way it reduces the ethnic rivalry. 1 part of the zone provides 5 candidates and the rest of the zones get to vote 1 out of the 5 for president, the VP are selected by the candidates from the other zones and the senate president would be selected from the zone that is next in line. After 6 years. For example if it time for the South west to rule they provide 5 candidates then each of the 5 candidates selects a VP from either the SS,SE,NC,NW and NE. After the SW have finished its 6 years single term its becomes the turn of the SE n also the senate president comes from the SE b4 the SW tenure is ova n it continues like dat, dat way every part of Nigeria gets to rule. This tribal hate will neva stop until Ѿε̲̣̣̣̥ learn how to share dis country, this same hate happen in the past and Ѿε̲̣̣̣̥ lost over 3 million Nigerian, I don't want to see the children suffer cos their parent are covered in greed. I disagree. The real problem is herd mentality, underdeveloped minds and severe lack of sophistication. I.e the inability of Nigerians to think, reflect deeply and establish themselves as individuals. Those kind of people will always be susceptible to divisive, crude and unsophisticated characters like GEJ, Dokubo-Asari et al. Look at how Berem is being upbraided here for having her individual opinion contrary to the 'herd'. For those who don't have full independent control of their minds - and this would be a lot of Nigerians in my opinion - certain primordial instincts are heightened under certain conditions/characters. Ethnic rancour is high now because it is subliminally and openly encouraged by the present government and its minions respectively with many Nigerians not aware they are being manipulated, exploited and goaded. How many people know that marketeers and lobbyist deliberately engage psychologist who help them use certain language in pertinent literature to get anticipated and automatic reaction from the unthinking public that favours what the 'code writers' are trying to achieve? Trust me, most people respond to the examples of societal 'leader', whether they be entertainers or politicians, far more than they know. When Nigeria gains a truly classy President, who is deep in ideas and humanity, then there will be less focus on ethnicity . The right President, by his own ideas, sophistication and focus, will automatically raise the bar to force Nigerians to do ideas. |