Deep Sight:
^^^ You already said "or some alien life form". . .

# DELUDING YASEF.

What is the difference between leprechauns and alien life forms?


That should make you think clearly about trying to make the idea of god being an alien life form plausible

Logicboy03:


It is like asking me what is more plausible between leprechaun gold and fairy magic.



However, infinite regress as a concept is more plausible. We know that numbers and any concept with numbers will run into such paradoxes.


The thing about the past is that you can keep going back to a time before any specific time.
[size=16pt]The time (spacetime) of our universe might have a beginning but that doesnt mean that time outside our universe has a beginning.[/size]

Daz all.

Mr anony:
Daz all.

Mr anony:
Daz all.

Explain yourself

Logicboy03:


Explain yourself

You have just admitted to the existence of an eternal realm

Mr anony:
You have just admitted to the existence of a timeless realm

Fail.


I just theorized that time is not limited to one universe- especially spacetime.

I theorized that there could be time outside our universe.


You straw manned my quote

Logicboy03:


Fail.


I just theorized that time is not limited to one universe- especially spacetime.

I theorized that there could be time outside our universe.


You straw manned my quote

Lololol you obviously don't know what a strawman is neither do you know what a theory is

Mr anony:
You have just admitted to the existence of an eternal realm

I can not say one thing and my oga at the top comes and says a different thing.

If he is a thinking person, he will recognize that in that statement alone, his entire worldview collapses.

Logicboy, you are yet to think.

Mr anony:
You have just admitted to the existence of an eternal realm

See the dubious douche? From "timeless realm" you have changed it to "eternal realm"


No, what I did was a possible hint at cyclical universes.

Deep Sight:

I can not say one thing and my oga at the top comes and says a different thing.

If he is a thinking person, he will recognize that in that statement alone, his entire worldview collapses.

Logicboy, you are yet to think.

Lololol, the guy is as religiously fanatic as they come. Watch him come and debunk himself very soon.

Mr anony:
Lololol you obviously don't know what a strawman is neither do you know what a theory is

lol...."theory" has many meanings.

Theorized has a different meaning from "theory".


But thanks for another strawman

Deep Sight:

I can not say one thing and my oga at the top comes and says a different thing.

If he is a thinking person, he will recognize that in that statement alone, his entire worldview collapses.

Logicboy, you are yet to think.

Please, help me think. How did I collapse my worldview?

Logicboy03:






What is the difference between leprechauns and alien life forms?


That should make you think clearly about trying to make the idea of god being an alien life form plausible

Don't be silly, of course it is clear that this world is a contrivance of another world.

Logicboy03:



See the dubious douche? From "timeless realm" you have changed it to "eternal realm"


No, what I did was a possible hint at cyclical universes.

What is the difference between "timeless realm" and "eternal realm"? They both mean the same thing.

So? what about cyclical universes? Still needs an eternal realm in order to exist

Deep Sight:

Don't be silly, of course it is clear that this world is a contrivance of another world.

Sophistry.

What the hell does this have to do with God being an alien life form?

Logicboy03:



lol...."theory" has many meanings.

Theorized has a different meaning from "theory".


But thanks for another strawman

perhaps you should tell us what you mean by theorized and how it doesn't mean you have a theory?

Mr anony:
What is the difference between "timeless realm" and "eternal realm"? They both mean the same thing.

So? what about cyclical universes? Still needs an eternal realm in order to exist

Timeless- no time
Eternal- infinite in time


Cyclical universes would each have a beginning. Think of it as oscillating

Logicboy03:



Please, help me think. How did I collapse my worldview?

Okay, lets take a gentle walk through this.

You say -

"The time (spacetime) of our universe might have a beginning but that doesnt mean that time outside our universe has a beginning."

1. This statement recognizes the existence of time outside our universe.

2. It further recognizes the eternity of that time.

3. Eternity by definition has no beginning.

4. It thus recognizes the existence of something outside our universe which is self-existent.

5. A necessary, self existent thing.

If you would pause, you would realize that this effectively means that in your heart of hearts, unrealized, you are a Deist.

Logicboy03:


Sophistry.

What the hell does this have to do with God being an alien life form?

You said so, not I.

Anyway, this world was created by men elsewhere, but of course you may not know this.

The origin of all things remains God.

Logicboy03:
Timeless- no time
Eternal- infinite in time

lol, timeless can also mean infinite time. In any case, I'll say you should be happy I changed it to eternal that way I am properly representing your argument

Cyclical universes would each have a beginning. Think of it as oscillating

Yeah but they will all need to exist in an eternal realm, no? Plus the cycle has to actually start somewhere. . . Or do you want to talk about the pendulum that never starts swinging?

Deep Sight:

Okay, lets take a gentle walk through this.

You say -

"The time (spacetime) of our universe might have a beginning but that doesnt mean that time outside our universe has a beginning."

1. This statement recognizes the existence of time outside our universe.

2. It further recognizes the eternity of that time.

3. Eternity by definition has no beginning.

4. It thus recognizes the existence of something outside our universe which is self-existent.

5. A necessary, self existent thing.

If you would pause, you would realize that this effectively means that in your heart of hearts, unrealized, you are a Deist.

Aww, our manly man, Deepsight is so lonely as a deist that he has to conjure up sophistry to make a deist out of an atheist.


Time is a concept. It is a concept with both material and immaterial aspects. It can be argued that time doesnt exist.

Just like numbers, time is a concept. And just like numbers, time results in infinity. Past, present and future have no tangiblity or tangible existence.

To say that because there is an eternity of time, there is also an eternal being is fallacious.

Your god would have no tangible existence if you want to hang his existence on the eternity of time.

Deep Sight:

You said so, not I.

Anyway, this world was created by men elsewhere, but of course you may not know this.

The origin of all things remains God.

The origin of things remain a mystery and unknown.

The origin of things can not be god and it can have no name or presence as it is unknown.

Deep Sight:

You said so, not I.

Anyway, this world was created by men elsewhere, but of course you may not know this.

The origin of all things remains God.

Interesting. Please explain

Logicboy03:



Timeless- no time
Eternal- infinite in time


Cyclical universes would each have a beginning. Think of it as oscillating

There's no such thing as no time.

Time is self existent and a component of God.

Logicboy03:
The origin of things remain a mystery and unknown.

The origin of things can not be god and it can have no name or presence as it is unknown.

Appeal to ignorance

Logicboy03:


Aww, our manly man, Deepsight is so lonely as a deist that he has to conjure up sophistry to make a deist out of an atheist.


Time is a concept. It is a concept with both material and immaterial aspects. It can be argued that time doesnt exist.

Just like numbers, time is a concept. And just like numbers, time results in infinity. Past, present and future have no tangiblity or tangible existence.

To say that because there is an eternity of time, there is also an eternal being is fallacious.

Your god would have no tangible existence if you want to hang his existence on the eternity of time.

Facepalm. Just when I thought Logicboy would pause and think, he proves once again that his reasoning runs parallel to rational thought and hence they cannot meet.

Mr anony:
Appeal to ignorance

There is a difference between
-stating what people are ignorant about...and
-appealing to ignorance


please educate yourself

Logicboy03:


Aww, our manly man, Deepsight is so lonely as a deist that he has to conjure up sophistry to make a deist out of an atheist.


Time is a concept. It is a concept with both material and immaterial aspects. It can be argued that time doesnt exist.

Just like numbers, time is a concept. And just like numbers, time results in infinity. Past, present and future have no tangiblity or tangible existence.

To say that because there is an eternity of time, there is also an eternal being is fallacious.

Your god would have no tangible existence if you want to hang his existence on the eternity of time.

If time doesnt exist, you dont exist. You have no past and no present.

Stop talking gibberish.

Deep Sight:

There's no such thing as no time.

Time is self existent and a component of God.

100% agree with your first sentence

Your second sentence is backwards. God is subject to time if he exists.

Mr anony:
Interesting. Please explain

You will never accept it, so forget it. However it is happening again. We, humans, will create another world in time. Yep, right here in this universe.

They will have myths, they will have legends. They will have scripture. And we will be watching them from our computers. And occassionally guiding them.

God, will remain, IS BE; AND IS IS.

Deep Sight:

You will never accept it, so forget it. However it is happening again. We, humans, will create another world in time. Yep, right here in this universe.

They will have myths, they will have legends. They will have scripture. And we will be watching them from our computers. And occassionally guiding them.

God, will remain, IS BE; AND IS IS.

I wasn't asking you to explain so that I can accept it. I was asking that you explain so that I understand it. So my oga no vex, please kindly explain. Educate me

Logicboy03:


100% agree with your first sentence

Your second sentence is backwards. God is subject to time if he exists.

Please go and have breakfast and then read the second line afterwards. Read it 40 times.

Then compare it to your statement about time outside the universe not necessarily having a beginning.