Some people will soon develop high blood pressure. Unfortunately, this can lead to paralysis.

Do not give your own daughter into a marriage till she reaches your defined matured age. SIMPLE

Your self-defined matured age cannot be made a general rule. It is a war you cannot win.

This is how our priority list looks like.
Nobody is talking about Local Government Autonomy again!!

Nigerians!! A special specie of homo sapiens

Also, some tribes in that country collect millions of naira for bride price for marriage.

Isn't that practice medieval and barbaric as well?

Why the phuck should I have to pay to marry a girl?

That's the hypocrisy in judging other people.

Live and let's live - mutual respect.

Katsumoto:

Tread softly shymexx; the pope doesn't condone it and it is not part of Roman Catholic doctrine. It is crime committed by a very small minority.

Tread softly how. Instead of firing the priests, they move them to new unsuspecting congregations where they can prey on more kids. Or do you have a different definition for condone. Shymex is on the money. Sorry, I find it hard to not throw a well deserved jab at the catholic church whenever I can.

ON GIRL "CHILD" MARRIAGE

First let us start by stating that both those for and those against girl child marriage ( no matter how one defines a child ) commit the same theoretical error, though from opposite directions. For the proponents of girl child marriage, the practice is an expression of either a divine law or cultural belief. Girl child marriage is thus abstracted from its material and class basis. Opponents of the practice commit the same error of idealism by accusing the Nigerian senate of failing to remove a constitutional clause implicitly backing the practice as if this parliamentary act will tear away girl child marriage from its material basis and make it disappear. A section of the opponents of the practice simply attribute it to a mental sexual disorder, paedophilia! Petty bourgeois idealism thus dominates the debate about girl child marriage.

The Material Basis of Girl Child Marriage

Looking at advanced capitalist countries one can see a tendency of age of marriage rising with further development of productive forces. How could development of industry and commerce affect the socially defined appropriate age of marriage? To understand this one has to understand the evolution of labour under capitalism. For the purpose of this discussion we will focus on slave and child labour before discussing girl child marriage, which is a special kind of ( unpaid ) labour. Now the vanishing of slavery was not an act of kindness from the abolitionists nor was it as result of a sudden moral re-awakening of slave-trading and slave-owning classes. As machinery and technique developed and as markets for industrial products grew, slave labour became obsolete. Capitalist system of production and exchange required an army of free labourers that can freely exchange their labour power for wages. Additionally, there was a need for Africans to focus on producing raw materials for the industries of the West; wars carried out for the purpose of capturing slaves for sale severely interrupted this production of raw materials. Because of these material forces, capitalists launched an unrelenting struggle against this fetter of slave labour. No wonder that the most industrialized bourgeois nation at the time, Britain, led this struggle. It had nothing to do with moral awakening of white man.

What of child labour? Massive exploitation of children and women in factories was characteristic of early Western capitalism, much like what we see today in China, Bangaledash and other Asian countries. The capitalist logic of using the labour of children and women was/is that these were/are vulnerable groups less likely to resist wage cuts or fight for better working conditions. Exploitation of children and women in European factories had been going on for a long period of time. But as labour productivity increases, more schooling and training became necessary to create the kind of labour power an advanced economy can exploit. Thus it became necessary for children and women to get better education; the higher the development of productive forces and the more skilled labour is required the longer is the time spent in school to acquire such skills. Thus, children came to stay longer in school rather than working in factories and child labour eventually vanished in advanced capitalist countries because a child needed to spend her whole childhood years in school if she is to ever acquire the skills the capitalists would demand. So went the fate of child labour, just like slave labour, according to the development of productive forces.

It might already be clear to the reader what the material foundations of delayed age at marriage in advanced world are. Because the capitalist system increasingly demand a higher level of labour quality and hence longer period at school, the socially ideal age of marriage and starting family kept on rising. The data from United States Bureau of the Census revealed that over a period of 120 years, from 1890 to 2010, the median age at first marriage for Males rose from 26.1 years to 28.2 years. Females figures showed a bigger increase; from 22.0 years in 1890 to 26.1 years in 2010.

Figures from earlier times are hard to come by. But a shadow figure for the median age at first marriage is the legal lower limit for marriage known as age of consent. In most of the history of modern Europe and North America, age of consent was based on the age of menstruation for girls and appearance of pubic hair for males, a practice inherited from the Midieval period. This age limit was mostly in the range of 10 to 13 years. This had been the practice up to dawn of 20th century even in the most advanced capitalist country then, the Great Britain. But since 1885, starting from Britain, the age of consent had been increased to 16 tm 18 years. It must be stressed that age of consent is not synonymous with the real median age at first marriage. In US for example, the median age at first marriage in 1890 ( 26.1 for males and 22.0 for females ) is more than twice the age of consent of 10 to 13 years. Nevertheless, even the sclerotic legal age of consent has demonstrated a historical tendency to rise with the development of productive forces.

This brings us to the question of ideal age of marriage in capitalistically backward societies. Because a demand for high skilled labour is non-existent in these societies, the girl child need not to delay age at marriage for the functioning of the society. This is the basis of girl child marriage; not divine injunctions and certainly not failure of legislators to remove a dead clause from an abstract constitution.

To demonstrate this historical tendency we are going to quote the United Nations study on marriage patterns released in 2000. The study showed that the
average mean age at marriage among countries of the developed regions is 27.9
for males and 25.2 for females, compared
to 24.9 for males and 21.4 for females
among countries of the less developed
regions. In Europe and Northern
America, the mean age at marriage is at
least 29 years for both males and females
in Finland, Germany, Greenland, Iceland and Sweden; 24 years or less in the
Republic of Moldova, San Marino and
Ukraine; and, 21 years for females in
Bulgaria, Gibraltar, Republic of Moldova
and Ukraine.

In Asia, the mean age at marriage for
men ranges from 22 years in Nepal and
23 years in Tajikistan to about 30 years in
Hong Kong, Japan, Kuwait, the Republic of
Korea and Singapore. For women, it
ranges from about 18 years in Afghanistan and Bangladesh to at least
27 years in Japan, Hong Kong and
Singapore.

In Africa, at least 30 per cent of
women aged 15-19 have ever married in half of the countries shown. In the
Republic of Congo, the Democratic
Republic of Congo and the Niger, at least
55 per cent of women aged 15-19 have
ever been married, while Libya, Réunion,
South Africa and Tunisia have the lowest proportion of ever-married women (less
than 5 per cent) in age group 15-19 in
Africa. The mean age at marriage ranges
from 22 years (in Uganda) to 32 years (in
Libya) for men, and from 17 years (in the
Democratic Republic of Congo) to 29 years (in Libya) for women.

The United Nation's report concluded that overall, the disparity in marriage timing
for males and females is broader in Africa
than elsewhere. Of the 20 countries with
the lowest mean age at marriage for
females, 15 are in Africa while the rest
are in Asia. Similarly, of the 20 countries with the highest age gaps in mean age at
first marriage, 16 countries are in Africa,
compared to two in Asia (Afghanistan
and Bangladesh), one in Latin America
and the Caribbean (Montserrat), one in
Oceania (Nauru), and none in Europe and Northern America. Even within Africa,
regional differences are apparent; a large
proportion of countries with the largest
age gaps in age at first marriage is in
Western Africa. The Democratic Republic
of Congo has the highest percentage of ever-married women in the adolescent
age group (74.2 per cent), while Iraq has
the highest proportion of ever-married
men of the same age group, that is, 14.9
per cent.

Back to Nigeria, according to the United Nations Population Fund ( UNFPA ), Nigeria, particularly northern Nigeria
has some of the highest rates of early
marriage in the world. Nationwide, 20 percent of girls were
married by age 15, and 40 percent were
married by age 18. Child marriage is
extremely prevalent in some regions; in
the Northwest region, 48 percent of girls
were married by age 15, and 78 percent were married by age 18.
Virtually no married girls are in school;
only 2 percent of 15–19-year-old married
girls are in school, compared to 69
percent of unmarried girls. Some 73
percent of married girls compared to 8
percent of unmarried girls received no schooling, and three out of four married
girls cannot read at all.
Eighty-four percent of first births to
adolescent girls in Nigeria occur within
marriage. Among married girls aged
15–19, 62 percent have already given
birth. Almost one out of four married
girls gave birth before age 15.

These figures confirm the theoretical propositions laid out in the initial parts of this article; that girl child marriage is neither an expression of a religious/cultural law nor is it an expression of comissions/omissions of the parliament. Age at first marriage reflects the level of development of productive forces. The general law being the higher the level of development of productive forces the higher would be the age at first marriage.

What are the Political Implications of this Analysis?

The issue of child marriage in Nigeria, though based on economic factors, did not recently throw itself into our consciousness as a material fact; it became news in the context of the Nigerian Senate proceedings on constitutional amendment. Senator Yerima and former Governor of Northwestern state of Zamfara presented himself as the defender of Islamic tradition of marrying girl children. The Senator is a classical example of a Nigerian bourgeois who deploy primordial sentiments of ethnicity and religion to pursue parliamentary aims; his only goal, like every other member of his bourgeois class, is access to state power and resources by tapping into the religious and ethnic sentiments of the toiling masses. Under the pretense of "Islamization agenda", these bourgeoisie consolidate their social base and create more opportunities for looting public rsources for self-enrichment. Interestingly, Senator Yerima also renders a crucial service to Christian and Southern bourgeoisie who also consolidate their base under the pretense of defending the country and Christian population from Islamist hegemony. This way, Yerima and his Christian bourgeois friends divide the masses and continue plundering public resources unchallenged. This is very obvious as these Senators succeeded in giving a mortal blow to the issue of Minimum wage by removing it from the Exclusive List, meaning that The Federal Government should not set a national minimum wage level. Instead, each state should set its own level. This is meant to disperse the power of trade and labour unions and defeat the struggle for minimum wage. This is at the same time when the Senators provided themselves with pension benefits! Did Nigerian masses notice this? Unlikely. Because of the issue " Islamic marriage law ".

Nigerian workers and poor must fight for minimum wage, nationalizing the commanding heights of the economy under democratic control and management of the working class, abolishing fat salaries of top bureaucrats and politicians, unification of the country and expulsion of imperialism. Achieve this and develop the country's productive forces and girl child marriage would be taken care of.

To do this, however, the working class must rid itself of the opportunistic labour leaders who are nothing but the representatives of the bourgeoisie within the labour movement. These opportunists must be replaced by a revolutionary leadership capable of building a workers' party and implementing the socialist program highlighted above

Katsumoto:

How can teenage pregnancy (which is usually done by girls older than 16 and who have consented to sex with someone closer to them in age) be worse than pre-teen and early teen marriage and sex ( which is usually SUFFERED by those not old enough to object). A girl who undergoes abortion is usually acting with free will, even if the action is frowned upon while early tean and pre teen girls don't consent, suffer VVF because their bodies are too young, and are divorced by the age of 18. Apart from moral/religious reasons, nothing wrong with abortion if it is done safely.

Are you serious? Closer to 16?

You obviously are so far from reality. Speak to those much more privileged little ones attending the expensive private PRImARY schools and ask about their first kiss(es).
They are having sex as soon as they are in JSS1. Not all of them of course. But many.

So, you think they are better off because they are simply having sex and not married? In Islam that kind of sex is not allowed and if they must, they have to be married. The marriage doesnt have to be to a 'grandfather' It could be to someone closer in age to them. To drive your point, you seem to be mentioning the older men and divorce as if it happens just like that. That Yerima divorced his wife doesnt make it the norm. I am surprised that too many people here wont rationalise that.

There has been too much of propaganda on these kinds of issues. The press gets busy and happy to blow it beyond proportions. While it does happen that girl marry at young ages, those who marry later are much more.

That the girls dont consent is a fallacy. When something is the norm somewhere, they look forward to it. As an example, despite female genital mutilation being painful , girls did it on themselves after it was outlawed in Kenya in 1956 as a show of defiance to the law.They hated that their rite of passage wouldnt be carried out. It is a matter of indoctrination and nothing proves that the girls dont consent/look forward to it.

Of course VVF is real. But is it even the only kind of fistula that exists?Would you stop people from having children because of the possibility of having children with birth defects? Risks arent so measurable.

Actually, I am not an advocate of too early marriage. Early marriage isnt entirely bad

I just don't see the point in all of the noise. Whatever energy to be spent on this should be on education which can be much more helpful.

Katsumoto:

That is a wrong example
1. No one is publicly condoning what the bad priests do
2. Not all priests are paedophiles.

So your answer to that is, not all priests are paedophiles? It is ok that a few are huh? Interesting.

How many people in the North do you think marry that early? I believe very few. These days, they wait until after their secondary school education at least.

TruthTella:

Look hia missis, the truth of the matter is that no matter how much you people deny it or bury your heads in the sand, ISLAM ENCOURAGES CHILD MARRIAGE!
At least your prophet married a 6 year old and slept with her at age 9 so that should prove beyond all doubt that it is an Islamic thing.
Lol religion of pedophylia and forced married.

So did you see me denying that? Islam diesnt encourage it per se. There is an allowance for it under certain guidelines. You lot wouldnt try to find those out. Would you?

smh for Nigeria's senate......... Betta issues are on grnd instead they are wasting their time to deliberate over this silly tin called underage marriage....... Stupid abokis rullin dis nation, shame on those 2men that comes frm d west!! Dey most hav lived the most important parts of their lives in d north,thats y d hav redundant brains liike d hausas... BUNCH OF FOOLs

deols:

So did you see me denying that? Islam diesnt encourage it per se. There is an allowance for it under certain guidelines. You lot wouldnt try to find those out. Would you?

Lol, please under what guidelines is child marriage acceptable in Islam?

By the way Islam encourages child marriage. Stop denying your religious tenets.
Muhammed, who you people are supposed to emulate married a six year old child.

deols:

So did you see me denying that? Islam diesnt encourage it per se. There is an allowance for it under certain guidelines. You lot wouldnt try to find those out. Would you?

there are always controversies over this islamic laws,,,,,some agrees while some against........y cnt it b just unequivocal?? Shits!!!!!

deols:

Are you serious? Closer to 16?

You obviously are so far from reality. Speak to those much more privileged little ones attending the expensive private PRImARY schools and ask about their first kiss(es).
They are having sex as soon as they are in JSS1. Not all of them of course. But many.

So, you think they are better off because they are simply having sex and not married? In Islam that kind of sex is not allowed and if they must, they have to be married. The marriage doesnt have to be to a 'grandfather' It could be to someone closer in age to them. To drive your point, you seem to be mentioning the older men and divorce as if it happens just like that. That Yerima divorced his wife doesnt make it the norm. I am surprised that too many people here wont rationalise that.

There has been too much of propaganda on these kinds of issues. The press gets busy and happy to blow it beyond proportions. While it does happen that girl marry at young ages, those who marry later are much more.

That the girls dont consent is a fallacy. When something is the norm somewhere, they look forward to it. As an example, despite female genital mutilation being painful , girls did it on themselves after it was outlawed in Kenya in 1956 as a show of defiance to the law.They hated that their rite of passage wouldnt be carried out. It is a matter of indoctrination and nothing proves that the girls dont consent/look forward to it.

Of course VVF is real. But is it even the only kind of fistula that exists?Would you stop people from having children because of the possibility of having children with birth defects? Risks arent so measurable.

Actually, I am not an advocate of too early marriage. Early marriage isnt entirely bad

I just don't see the point in all of the noise. Whatever energy to be spent on this should be on education which can be much more helpful.

I don't like all these debates that are based on personal experiences. Lets try to provide stats to support our positions.

“It is a disaster to have 12 million girls of school-going age denied education and instead married off to satiate some inconsiderate person’s lust,” GIOPINI’s Mashi said. “Without education the lives of such girls are reduced to that of dependence and subservience.” GIOPINI estimates that 12 million girls aged around 13-14 are married in the region.

Early childbearing is a major cause of obstetric fistula -- a preventable condition in which tissue is torn when blood supply to the tissues of the vagina and bladder and/or rectum is cut off during prolonged obstructed labour.

http://www.irinnews.org/report/81667/nigeria-early-marriage-adds-to-socioeconomic-woes-ngos-say


There are reportedly at least 200,000 cases of Vesico Vaginal Fistula (VVF) across Nigeria, caused principally by early motherhood. After government interventions more than oow decades ago, victims in states like Katsina, Adamawa and Ebonyi, are still in pains, just as life has become frustrating to them.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201306171128.html

Please provide your stats of JSS kids being intimate and getting pregnant. I don't care for your moral argument about whether people have sex before marriage. A 13 year old kissing her classmate is much better than a 12 yr who is being raped by her grandfather's mate, having kids, and then having health problems.

I really don't get your point, in a bid to defend your religion, you are defending the practice of 12 yr olds being married to old men?

deols:


So your answer to that is, not all priests are paedophiles? It is ok that a few are huh? Interesting.

How many people in the North do you think marry that early? I believe very few. These days, they wait until after their secondary school education at least.

Who said it was ok. Can you find one case where anybody defended guilty priests?

As for your comments about only a few being married off early, please the link below. How many kids do you think there are in Northern Nigeria for 12 million of them to be considered a 'few'?

It is a disaster to have 12 million girls of school-going age denied education and instead married off to satiate some inconsiderate person’s lust,” GIOPINI’s Mashi said. “Without education the lives of such girls are reduced to that of dependence and subservience.” GIOPINI estimates that 12 million girls aged around 13-14 are married in the region.

http://www.irinnews.org/report/81667/nigeria-early-marriage-adds-to-socioeconomic-woes-ngos-say

deols:

So did you see me denying that? Islam diesnt encourage it per se. There is an allowance for it under certain guidelines. You lot wouldnt try to find those out. Would you?

What are the guidelines that are acceptable for a 12 year old to be married early?

deols:

1.)So, you think they are better off because they are simply having sex and not married? In Islam that kind of sex is not allowed and if they must, they have to be married. The marriage doesnt have to be to a 'grandfather' It could be to someone closer in age to them. To drive your point, you seem to be mentioning the older men and divorce as if it happens just like that. That Yerima divorced his wife doesnt make it the norm. I am surprised that too many people here wont rationalise that.

2.)That the girls dont consent is a fallacy. When something is the norm somewhere, they look forward to it. As an example, despite female genital mutilation being painful , girls did it on themselves after it was outlawed in Kenya in 1956 as a show of defiance to the law.They hated that their rite of passage wouldnt be carried out. It is a matter of indoctrination and nothing proves that the girls dont consent/look forward to it.

3.)Of course VVF is real. But is it even the only kind of fistula that exists?Would you stop people from having children because of the possibility of having children with birth defects? Risks arent so measurable.

4.)Actually, I am not an advocate of too early marriage. Early marriage isnt entirely bad
.

I numbered your bullshyt points to address them one by one.
1.) If you see kids of 13-16 having sex, you increase the awareness of children on the the consequences of their actions ie pregnancy and stds, you enlighten them on the reasons why it is better to abstain untill they are old enough to make sound judgements. You don't ask them to get married because there is no way in hell that children of that age range would be able to deal with the complexities of marriage. They are just not mature enough for it.

2.) A 6-13 year old child cannot give her consent for marriage. Period. She is too immature to know what she is doing but I don't expect you to admit this because by doing so, you would be saying your religion encourages forced marriages.

3.) Childbirth by an immature girl is very high risk factor for VVF. I don't know the type of excuse you are trying to make here. All pregnancies have their risks but the risk of VVF is exponentially higher in children that give birth.

4.) Muhammed supported child marriage so you'd better support it as well if you don't want Allah to be angry with you, lwkmd.

Btw, I'm back..

I am so loving this debate... grabs popcorn and soda watching as things unfold...

TruthTella:

I numbered your bullshyt points to address them one by one.
1.) If you see kids of 13-16 having sex, you increase the awareness of children on the the consequences of their actions ie pregnancy and stds, you enlighten them on the reasons why it is better to abstain untill they are old enough to make sound judgements. You don't ask them to get married because there is no way in hell that children of that age range would be able to deal with the complexities of marriage. They are just not mature enough for it.

2.) A 6-13 year old child cannot give her consent for marriage. Period. She is too immature to know what she is doing but I don't expect you to admit this because by doing so, you would be saying your religion encourages forced marriages.

3.) Childbirth by an immature girl is very high risk factor for VVF. I don't know the type of excuse you are trying to make here. All pregnancies have their risks but the risk of VVF is exponentially higher in children that give birth.

4.) Muhammed supported child marriage so you'd better support it as well if you don't want Allah to be angry with you, lwkmd.

Very good points.

Some folks don't understand that you are not supposed to agree with every tenet/rule of a religion. Certain rules are more appropriate in certain areas/regions/circumstances. It is better to be silent about certain medieval practices instead of coming out to defend it just because its your religion.

The truth is that it has been in practice ever since in d north, the only difference now is that they legalise it......

But naija sef...
Gay boys 14years
Underage modafukers are our senators

Katsumoto:

Very good points.

Some folks don't understand that you are not supposed to agree with every tenet/rule of a religion. Certain rules are more appropriate in certain areas/regions/circumstances. It is better to be silent about certain medieval practices instead of coming out to defend it just because its your religion.

LOL the lady is scared of offending her God.that's why she's defending a practise that is obviously barbaric.

islam has noting to do with d vote of d house.if it is against islam, then we must reject it.who cares what any human being feels abt it.islam remain the islam of yesterday and now. its our free will. if u decide to give out ur daughters at age of 40,dats ur headache

TruthTella:

LOL the lady is scared of offending her God.that's why she's defending a practise that is obviously barbaric.

The lady is defendin a barbaric religion and you ve a beautiful and civilised religion:gud and fine.why not face ur own and let her face hers.i've not seen her insult ur religion neither has she attempted to force u or convince u to accept her religion. Muslims understand that more than one religion must exist but u christians dont see tins dat way. Live n lets live. Mutual respect. Stop insultin peoples beliefs. Tolerance is the only way we can live together wit others.

I 1da most times how they say muslims are not tolerant. Cos in e media and nairaland it is obvious who is aggressive and not tolerant. Christians invest their time and energy insultin islam without gettin any insultin response from the muslims as well. I honestly admire the muslims in nairaland. Keep it up.

Abujabir24: Nairalanders or should I say Nigerians. I don't you people's problem. please tell me which do you prefer? a girl between 13 and 18 constantly committing fornication with countless men, throwing away her dignity or that same girl getting married to just one man keeping her dignity? some of you here would love to sleep with underage girls courtesy of the sex threads by our corners or those who have served already. It's better for a girl to get married at an early age than her to get deflowered by some bunch of bastards.

It is not better, she could get VVF browse it. Not all children have sex as their priority! Smh

All about d northern fellas.......Becoz ,ajority of their Guyz wed underage abi.......Naija my countrt.

Homo habilis children p*rn stars.
Mshew!

this is satanic act from those who say yes to this.
Is a shame we only ve one senator from south-south and south-east to move against this motion in the house. Where are other senators from delta, bayelsa, rivers, calabar, imo, anambra and calabar?
This shows they are not active at all. However, 2015 is around the corner when justice will prevail..

Lord, have mercy on Nigeria. Any wonder many of these states where these 'representatives' hail from have refused to sign the Child Rights Act to protect the right of children? Katsina has the highest number of teenage mothers, thus VVF..........This breaks my heart. Nairalanders please look for where the ChildNotBride Petition is being signed in your state, do not just do nothing, this may not necessarily affect your children, but help save another girl. Your child may also have cause to wonder why her nine year old friend is being forcefully married off. Pls save a girl.

Ghana based on statistics, was recommending increasing marriageable age from 18 to 23years, nigeria reducing from 18 to 13years. http://www.ghanabusinessnews.com/2013/07/17/ghanas-chief-statistician-calls-for-increase-in-marriage-age/

Okija_juju: Wow!!


So many Baby Fuckers in the North...

<sub>Consenting Gay Adults fvcking = 14years in Prison,

Grown men fvck Minors of 13yrs and below = Federal Marriage certificate!
..</sub>

Nigeria... Behold your hypocrisy..

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You just spoke my mind! Such a hypocritic nation! so if ur 9yr old daughter is violated by ur neighbour there's no point in pressing for presecution, he shd simply jst marry her, so "she would be deemed of full age"...ok naaah! Una see una sef

ShyM-X:
(1)Also, some tribes in that country collect millions of naira for bride price for marriage.

(2)Isn't that practice medieval and barbaric as well?

(3)Why the phuck should I have to pay to marry a girl?

That's the hypocrisy in judging other people.

Live and let's live - mutual respect.

i actually decided to take it upon myself to make a bit of contribution on this post.. ill like to make a BIG contrast of this to the isuue on ground

(1) Though such tribes collect bride price, DO THEY FORCFULL PUSH THEIR DAUGTHER INTO MARRIAGE all in the name of that money they want?....Definitely, d girl is fully prepared and PERSONALLY willing to marry REGARDLESS her age UNLIKE a small girl who doesnt know d word "MARRIAGE" but is been indirectly or directly forced into the state.

(2) Pls tell me d barbaric act here:
Seeking ur little girl's consent and then WAITING for d man who will pay her price OR FORCING ur little girl to marry regardless of her age, intellect and WILL?..... .

(3) ...and hence, did the parents force u to pay if u love their daughter? and if actually u r willing to pay, THEY DEFINITELY WILL HAVE SEEK FOR D CONSENT OF THEIR DAUGHTER OR ELSE, NO MARRIAGE WITHOUT HER CONSENT!....Though i actually know d TRIBE in question, im not of d TRIBE.

....Though u may have made some viable defences on ur position(s), BUT U ACTUALLY OCCUR TO HAVE SHOT URSELF ON THE FOOT WITH THESE!