Kamsy10: I wasnt expecting any Igbo man on that list so am not surprised
The fear of umunna(kinsmen) is the beginning of wisdom.lol

That kinda disappointed me. Didnt expect that.

ShyM-X:


However, how many black Christians have come out to denounce this savagely act? How many of them have questioned their priests and their pedophilic culture, which is part of the Roman Catholic doctrine? Even the pope condones it.

Tread softly shymexx; the pope doesn't condone it and it is not part of Roman Catholic doctrine. It is crime committed by a very small minority.

The only way out is by restructuring the country.

With that, they can lead their lives the way they want...also other tribes who want homosexuality legalised can also get it without interfering with the rest.

ShyM-X:


If the bolded is part of their culture - then let them be. However, Nigeria also need to uphold its laws and make sure there's no sex involved, till the girl is of legal age.

An underage girl cannot enter a marriage contract because she is underage and does not have the sense to fully understand what she is doing. Even if there is no sex in the marriage until her 18th birthday, it would still be wrong due to the fact that an immature child is the one getting married. And she is getting married to to an old papa that wants nothing else from her but fleshy pleasures, because let's face facts, a man of 50 is not on the same intellectual level as a child of 13 so what the phuck else is he marrying her for?

Katsumoto:

Tread softly shymexx; the pope doesn't condone it and it is not part of Roman Catholic doctrine. It is crime committed by a very small minority.

But the Pope has never come out to condemn it. Everyone who knows about pederasty and religion of zeus in ancient Greece and how the zeus religion metamorphosed into Catholicism should know that, it's part of the Roman Catholic doctrine.

ShyM-X:


But the Pope has never come out to condemn it. Everyone who knows about pederasty and religion of zeus in ancient Greece and how the zeus religion metamorphosed into Catholicism should know that, it's part of the Roman Catholic doctrine.

Ok, I am calling you out. Please provide something to support your position. And no zeus religion metamorphosed into Catholicism. These all seem like what you got from conspiracy websites.

You can't just be making blanket statements.

TruthTella:
An underage girl cannot enter a marriage contract because she is underage and does not have the sense to fully understand what she is doing. Even if there is no sex in the marriage until her 18th birthday, it would still be wrong due to the fact that an immature child is the one getting hooked to an old papa that wants nothing else from her but fleshy pleasures, because let's face facts, a man of 50 is not on the same intellectual level as a child of 13 so what the phuck else is he marrying her for?

That's being simplistic.

Culture is deeper than what we believe is right or wrong based on our societal values. Hence why we always need to tread carefully when we're talking about what's good or bad - because what might be bad to you, may be good to the next person.

As an individual and with my thought process, do I believe that this practice is wrong and medieval? - HELL YEAH... However who am I to judge the next people's culture especially when they have lived that way for generations and most of them are happy with the status quo?

The only way you can help them is by putting control in the practice by making sure that the sex only happens at a legal age.

YERIMA IS AN ANIMAL, HE STARTED BOKO HARAM WITH HIS INTRODUCTION OF SHARIA RULE. BEFORE HIM,THERE WAS PEACE IN THE NORTH AND MUSLIMSWENT ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM WITH CHRISTIANS BUT THIS BEARDED ANIMAL INTRODUCED SHARIA AND CHANGED IT ALL. NOT LIKE ITS A BAD IDEA BUT HE BRED EXTREMISTS IN THE NORTH

Katsumoto:
Ok, I am calling you out. Please provide something to support your position. And no zeus religion metamorphosed into Catholicism. These all seem like what you got from conspiracy websites.

You can't just be making blanket statements.

Isn't the celebration of Christmas, Easter et al part of the Zeus religion?

And wasn't Zeus also the ancient Roman religion before Roman Catholic took off from where it stopped?

Heck, even the bronze statue of Jupiter (Zeus) is in the Vatican.

ShyM-X:

Culture is deeper than what we believe is right or wrong based on our societal values. Hence why we always need to tread carefully when we're talking about what's good or bad - because what might be bad to you, may be good to the next person.
As an individual and with my thought process, do I believe that this practice is wrong and medieval? - HELL YEAH... However who am I to judge the next people's culture especially when they have lived that way for generations and most of them are happy with the status quo?

The only way you can help them is by putting control in the practice by making sure that the sex only happens at a legal age.

You believe the practise is wrong but you have no desire to stop it? I don't get you.
When you see a wrong doing of any kind you should try to put a stop to it and if you cannot do that then you should at least detest it in your heart instead of supporting it.
Marrying a child off to an old man is wrong, period. It is an act that infringes on the human rights of the child because everyone should be free to choose who they want to marry, no one deserves to be hauled off in marriage to an old man that is her grand father's age when she is still an infant.
That would be trampling on the child's human rights.
And, whether the muslims have been living like that since time immemorial or not does not mean the act should be left to continue, I believe there are some pagan religions in Nigeria that have been sacrificing humans to their gods for decades now. Should their idiocy be left to continue just because they have been doing it for decades? Or because they believe that it benefits them in some way?
The answer is no. Babaric cultures must be stamped out.

TruthTella:
You believe the practise is wrong but you have no desire to stop it? I don't get you.
When you see a wrong doing of any kind you should try to put a stop to it and if you cannot do that then you should at least detest it in your heart instead of supporting it.
Marrying a child off to an old man is wrong, period. It is an act that infringes on the human rights of the child because everyone should be free to choose who they want to marry, no one deserves to be hauled off in marriage to an old man that is her grand father's age when she is still an infant.
That would be trampling on the child's human rights.
And, whether the muslims have been living like that since time immemorial or not does not mean the act should be left to continue, I believe there are some pagan religions in Nigeria that have been sacrificing humans to their gods for decades now. Should their idiocy be left to continue just because they have been doing it for decades? Or because they believe that it benefits them in some way?
The answer is no. Babaric cultures must be stamped out.

I believe homosexuality is wrong, barbaric and un-African, but who am I to tell Europeans how to lead their lives especially when it's part of their culture? I coexist with it.

Just because I believe a practice is wrong, that doesn't mean I should shove my opinions down the throats of people who practise it - especially when it's part of their culture. Mutual respect and coexistence, brother.

ShyM-X:


Isn't the celebration of Christmas, Easter et al part of the Zeus religion?

And wasn't Zeus also the ancient Roman religion before Roman Catholic took off from where it stopped?

Heck, even the bronze statue of Jupiter (Zeus) is in the Vatican.

There was a Roman religion which had certain similarities with Greek mythology. Roman religion is traced back to its founders Romulus, Remus, and Pompilius. Second, you need to read about the struggle between Roman tradition/religion and Catholicism between the reigns of Constanstine, Julian, and Theodocius. Yes certain practices were adapted but this is similar to how the Yoruba adapted Christianity and Islam to Yoruba culture. Will you then state that Christianity evolved from Yoruba culture? So, Roman religion gave way to Christianity, it didn't become Christianity. Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ, who was a Jew.

ShyM-X:


However, how many black Christians have come out to denounce this savagely act? How many of them have questioned their priests and their pedophilic culture, which is part of the Roman Catholic doctrine? Even the pope condones it.

Pope condones what?
Part of which doctrine?

You are certainly a pope and author of the doctrines! You are really wise and learned.

Katsumoto:
There was a Roman religion which had certain similarities with Greek mythology. Roman religion is traced back to its founders Romulus, Remus, and Pompilius. Second, you need to read about the struggle between Roman tradition/religion and Catholicism between the reigns of Constanstine, Julian, and Theodocius. Yes certain practices were adapted but this is similar to how the Yoruba adapted Christianity and Islam to Yoruba culture. Will you then state that Christianity evolved from Yoruba culture? So, Roman religion gave way to Christianity, it didn't become Christianity. Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ, who was a Jew.

Kats, we can't deny the fact that Zeus religion metamorphosed in Catholicism, a big chunk of it. And I believe pederasty was one of the aspect of zeus religion that became part of Catholicism.

The behavioural pattern of the Catholic Priests and a lot of Pastors should tell you all you need to know. Why do they all love having sex with little boys under their supervision?

ShyM-X:


I believe homosexuality is wrong, barbaric and un-African, but who am I to tell Europeans how to lead their lives especially when it's part of their culture? I coexist with it.

Just because I believe a practice is wrong, that doesn't mean I should shove my opinions down the throats of people who practise it - especially when it's part of their culture. Mutual respect and coexistence, brother.

WTF? How can you even compare homosexuality to child marriage? Are you phucking kidding me right now?
Homosexuality is an act that involves two willing and mature adults that have the sense to understand what they are doing and understand the consequencies of their actions. Child marriage is giving off an infant in marriage, an infant that did not provide her consent for the marriage. How can you even compare the two of them.
One of them is a willing act between willing parties and the other is done without the approval or consent of one of the parties.
How the hell can you even suggest that we respect child marriage?

patrick27:
Pope condones what?
Part of which doctrine?

You are certainly a pope and author of the doctrines! You are really wise and learned.

Talk when your pope comes out to denounce it and expel the pedos. When I say expel, I mean get them out of the Church and not by posting them to Africa to fvck little black boys in their ar.ses.

ShyM-X:


Talk when your pope comes out to denounce it and expel the pedos. When I say expel, I mean get them out of the Church and not by posting them to Africa to fvck little black boys in their ar.ses.

Good reasoning pope ShyM-X the first, the writer of doctrines, the condoner of pedos and wisest man in his clan

ShyM-X:


Kats, we can't deny the fact that Zeus religion metamorphosed in Catholicism, a big chunk of it. And I believe pederasty was one of the aspect of zeus religion that became part of Catholicism.

The behavioural pattern of the Catholic Priests and a lot of Pastors should tell you all you need to know. Why do they all love having sex with little boys under their supervision?

Please provide some verifiable stats that they ALL love having sex with little boys. Some priests, who are a minority, commit that crime but a vast majority of priests dedicate their lives to improving the lives of others. Apart from spiritual councelling, priests contribute to the welfare of ordinary folks through medicine, education, etc.

It is a fact to you that Zeus religion morphed into Catholicism but there isn't anything out there to support that position. If you disagree, please support your position. You know how we debate.

TruthTella:
WTF? How can you even compare homosexuality to child marriage? Are you phucking kidding me right now?
Homosexuality is an act that involves two willing and mature adults that have the sense to understand what they are doing and understand the consequencies of their actions. Child marriage is giving off an infant in marriage, an infant that did not provide her consent for the marriage. How can you even compare the two of them.
One of them is a willing act between willing parties and the other is done without the approval or consent of one of the parties.
How the hell can you even suggest that we respect child marriage?

Can't you see where I alluded to the cultural aspect of both practices? And why do you lot always read everything upside down?

I don't care if both parties are willing to phuck each other in the ar.se - my point is that it's a practice that's morally wrong and barbaric to me - just as the under-age marriage is. And I drew comparisons of how both are part of certain people's cultures. That was what I was alluding to.

patrick27:

Good reasoning pope ShyM-X the first, the writer of doctrines, the condoner of pedos and wisest man in his clan

And where did I condone pedos?

ShyM-X:


Can't you see where I alluded to the cultural aspect of both practices? And why do you lot always read everything upside down?

I don't care if both parties are willing to phuck each other in the ar.se - my point is that it's a practice that's morally wrong and barbaric to me - just as the under-age marriage is. And I drew comparisons of how both are part of certain people's cultures. That was what I was alluding to.

Watevs.

Human rights should be upheld and one way of doing that is banning the filthy Islamic practise that is child marriage. And no I don't believe in respecting other people's beliefs when it comes to issues like this.
Somebody has to fight for those little girls that are being pawned off to lascivous,decrepit and revolting Muslim men.

Katsumoto:
Please provide some verifiable stats that they ALL love having sex with little boys. Some priests, who are a minority, commit that crime but a vast majority of priests dedicate their lives to improving the lives of others. Apart from spiritual councelling, priests contribute to the welfare of ordinary folks through medicine, education, etc.

It is a fact to you that Zeus religion morphed into Catholicism but there isn't anything out there to support that position. If you disagree, please support your position. You know how we debate.

Kats, we can't really say those priests are in the minority because most of the people who have been caught in the act are Catholic Priests. And we're talking about reported cases here. How about those cases that aren't reported? You know the kids in remote parts of Africa, Asia and South America who don't have a voice? The kids in Europe and America who don't want to be stigmatised for the rest of their lives.

Also, I never said priests don't dedicate their lives to improving lives - I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in how Christians are always quick to act sanctimonious, when their own belief system also isn't free from scandals and medieval practices.

We can draw comparisons between Zeus and Jesus. But I don't want to go into that.

ShyM-X:


Kats, we can't really say those priests are in the minority because most of the people who have been caught in the act are Catholic Priests. And we're talking about reported cases here. How about those cases that aren't reported? You know the kids in remote parts of Africa, Asia and South America who don't have a voice? The kids in Europe and America who don't want to be stigmatised for the rest of their lives.

Also, I never said priests don't dedicate their lives to improving lives - I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in how Christians are always quick to act sanctimonious, when their own belief system also isn't free from scandals and medieval practices.

We can draw comparisons between Zeus and Jesus. But I don't want to go into that.

So if 100 priests are caught, then all priests must be guilty. Before you make blank statements, you should do the maths first. Since the first case of wrong doing by a priest was discovered, how many cases have there been and how many men have been ordained as priests?

Think about this - if there are 100,000 men in incarceration in the state of California, using your analogy, should we conclude that all the men who have ever lived in California since the first prison was built, are criminals?

Its a debate, I just want you to make it intellectual by introducing stats to support your position.

TruthTella:
Watevs.

Human rights should be upheld and one way of doing that is banning the filthy Islamic practise that is child marriage. And no I don't believe in respecting other people's beliefs when it comes to issues like this.
Somebody has to fight for those little girls that are being pawned off to lascivous,decrepit and revolting Muslim men.

You need to leave those ragheads alone. Forcing your beliefs and thought process on them will just complicate things. We as human beings operate based on our consciousness and we also evolve based on that. You can't force evolution on people, it has to happen gradually, so as to make it a stable transition. Just take a look at world demographic and the unstable places on the planet - then deduce why those places are the way they're - and that would tell you all you need to know.


Also, who's going to fight for them? Don't tell me it's those lousy and non-achieving black feminists, who can't even punch their way out of a paper bag.

Katsumoto:

So if 100 priests are caught, then all priests must be guilty. Before you make blank statements, you should do the maths first. Since the first case of wrong doing by a priest was discovered, how many cases have there been and how many men have been ordained as priests?

Think about this - if there are 100,000 men in incarceration in the state of California, using your analogy, should we conclude that all the men who have ever lived in California since the first prison was built, are criminals?

Its a debate, I just want you to make it intellectual by introducing stats to support your position.

Expecting pope ShyM-X to be intellectual? You won't get it bro...not in this life....

Katsumoto:
So if 100 priests are caught, then all priests must be guilty. Before you make blank statements, you should do the maths first. Since the first case of wrong doing by a priest was discovered, how many cases have there been and how many men have been ordained as priests?

Think about this - if there are 100,000 men in incarceration in the state of California, using your analogy, should we conclude that all the men who have ever lived in California since the first prison was built, are criminals?

Its a debate, I just want you to make it intellectual by introducing stats to support your position.

No matter how you look at it, the question will always be: how come most of these pedos are catholic priests? Also how come the Church authorities always conceal these abuses and encourage the priests? That should be able to convince you that it's either pederasty is part of the Church doctrine, or the Church naturally doesn't see anything wrong in the act. Especially when cases of abuse against these priests are in their thousands.

I don't naturally like providing links, but I'll do that tonight.

A case of Catholic church concealing pe.dophile:

Catholic church concealed pedophile priest Denis McAlinden's abuses
THE Catholic church received repeated reports that a pedophile priest was abusing children, some as young as four, but failed to pass these on to police for decades, an inquiry has heard.

Church authorities instead actively concealed his abuse and encouraged the priest, Father Denis McAlinden, to move to other dioceses in Australia and overseas, where he was able to continue abusing children.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/in-depth/catholic-church-concealed-pedophile-priest-denis-mcalindens-abuses/story-fngburq5-1226672569531

Database of Publicly Accused Priests in the United States alone:
http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/PriestDBbylastName-A.html

Seriously, Patrick27, are you a phaggot?

Listen, stop disturbing my life and go wa.nk yourself to sleep.

ShyM-X:
Seriously, Patrick27, are you a phaggot?

Listen, stop disturbing my life and go wa.nk yourself to sleep.

At least you are my brother a pope and mark you, this is patrick27 not your other brother the phaggot.

I wasn't there when she was teaching you guys how to wa.nk to sleep.

ShyM-X:


No matter how you look at it, the question will always be: how come most of these pedos are catholic priests? Also how come the Church authorities always conceal these abuses and encourage the priests? That should be able to convince you that it's either pederasty is part of the Church doctrine, or the Church naturally doesn't see anything wrong in the act. Especially when cases of abuse against these priests are in their thousands.

I don't naturally like providing links, but I'll do that tonight.

A case of Catholic church concealing pe.dophile:



Database of Publicly Accused Priests in the United States alone:
http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/PriestDBbylastName-A.html

Your link proves nothing in this debate. You made a blank statement that ALL priests are paedophiles. I am not challenging the notion that there are priests who are paedophiles, I am challenging your position that all or a majority of priests are paedophiles. There isn't anything new in finding a guilty priest. I just want you to support your position that a majority of priests are paedophiles or accept that you exaggerated.

You have introduced another position that you are not going to be able to support. To reach a conclusion that majority of paedophiles are priests, again you need to provide stats to support it. How many men have been convicted/charged with paedophilia and what percentage are priests? Just use one country as a case study; any country you like. This is an academic exercise.

Katsumoto:
Your link proves nothing in this debate. You made a blank statement that ALL priests are paedophiles. I am not challenging the notion that there are priests who are paedophiles, I am challenging your position that all or a majority of priests are paedophiles. There isn't anything new in finding a guilty priest. I just want you to support your position that a majority of priests are paedophiles or accept that you exaggerated.

You have introduced another position that you are not going to be able to support. To reach a conclusion that majority of paedophiles are priests, again you need to provide stats to support it. How many men have been convicted/charged with paedophilia and what percentage are priests? Just use one country as a case study; any country you like. This is an academic exercise.

When you're dealing with majority or minority, it has to do with how widespread an act is based on reported cases and the frequency. And if you add the stigma associated with reporting things like this and unreported cases in remote regions to the equation, and how the Church has turned a blind eye to it and encouraged the culprits - then you should be able to deduce that these people are in the majority.

For the 2nd paragraph, I guess I should have alluded to just religion. You and I know that no other denomination or religion tops the Roman Catholics when it comes to paedophiles.

We need not get warped in our reasoning.
Are those crying blue murder against Senator Yerima saying that 18 years is the due age for marriage?
Let them sincerely tell us if they can give their daughter's hand in marriage at 18.

By 18, she can only be an undergraduate. She would have not graduated, not to talk of earning and being financially 'ok'.

They should not be ashamed to tell us that their due age for marriage is 30 (with Nigreria's economic status).

I beg.. My concern is about Local Govt Autonomy, Immunity Clauses.
Those are what affect me directly.

Special specie of homo sapiens!!

When are we going to stop behaving like a scum bag; a set of people who has no mechanism for self-direction except where sentiment and interest direct?

When we tell you about the immorality and gross character decadence brought to us by your Big Brother Africa and flamboyant attention to your role models like Goddie, you argue that the dictate of moral is not absolute and cannot be unilaterally determined.

When did your Child Right Act or your constitutional definition of 'underage' becomes a reference in its absoluteness? Who says that definition is correct?

Why did you rush to cite UN statues now? The same laws and provision you discarded in the Gay rights' debacle, also on the execution of the Edo 4.
It is a clear cut symptom of a set of people who lack self-defined and adopted social framework that will spell the content of their pluralistic structure.

Now, are you saying a girl of 18 is the girl that is of age to have 'SEX' or to have 'MARRIAGE'? You need a brief ethnographic study of those secondary school girls, not to even talk of primary school drop-outs to guide your outburst.

An adventurous journey to some other places with your sense of judgement living will tell you: some girls are physiologically balanced and structured to mother by age 14. Scholars do not make sweeping statements. Generalization is the most 'logical' fallacy.

I need to see that Yerima's wife, then I can say if she is of 'age' or not.
YOU CANNOT DEFINE MORAL FOR US!!

What concerns 'Agbero' with the garbage in dust pin? That should be the business of the 'Agbepo'
MIND YOUR BUSINESS