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Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by bukatyne(f): 9:29am On Dec 23, 2013 |
damiso: Damiso, Take it cool The whatever part was because I didnot know the right word to use there. I never said it was make or break, how can it be? Apologies on the deceit part. Your first post sounded like you didnot know at first. I agree with him that the celebrations is commercialized anyways and I think the prayer part is really sweet Take Care |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by damiso(f): 9:51am On Dec 23, 2013 |
bukatyne: That's Ok Bukatyne I get your point. Maybe my first post was kinda like a ramble but I was just trying to illustrate how our experiences, backgrounds etc kinda shape how we view stuff I.e. I coming from a background where people made a fuss about stuff like that and he growing up without that.Sometimes in marriage we view things on how we percieve it should be and sometimes conflicts are better resolved if we look at the root cause on why the other party does not see it our way. I agree with you though on not keeping apperances on some core issues eg faith etc.Its deceit if I find out you were doing all the spirikoko church thing only for us to marry and find out you were an atheist all along and just pulled the 'church brother' act to get a wife. |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by EfemenaXY: 10:00am On Dec 23, 2013 |
jennykadry: Good heavens Jenny! You need serious help, walahi! Re: the bolded - there's an easy solution there... just give them an inverted funnel to aid motor control. Should work a treat! |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by EfemenaXY: 10:23am On Dec 23, 2013 |
Baby mama: Hmmmm...odd one this is...now let me see: If I was still single (goodness gracious), I definitely would have lowered my standards. My number one priority will be to fit in as many juniors as is possible before my biological reaches 13 O'clock. And trust me, by this time, it'll be to hell with what people think. If I have to get my own biological kids out of wedlock, then so be it. Of course by this time, I would be (as I am anyway), well established in my career - obviously even much further than I presently am as I wouldn't have had to make family compromises along the way as most (if not all of us), married mums do. So being financially independent with my own homes and businesses, I'll be at liberty to choose which DNA gene pool I want my spawning my offspring. Mind you, I'll never force / cajole anyone to marry me at that point, so the deal for me would be deciding who to choose to father my kids without the shackles of marriage borne out of societal pressure. So the question will be, do I go for a young virile young man blessed with Adonis looks, highly intelligent and a Mr Valentino in bed? Or do I risk going for someone older than me and risk having kids with Downs Syndrome? Based on that, there are certain things I still will never compromise on: ~ Looks: You just have to be a looker. Marriage or not, I want my heart to flutter helplessly like a love-struck 18 year old whenever I set my eyes on you. Yes, yes, I know I'm vain - very vain but who wants to give birth to kids looking like apes? Forget inner beauty or tired adages like beauty is in the eye of the beholder - me, I must like what I see on the outside before I bother scratching the surface. I don't do hard-faced men. Not my style. ~ Height: Okay, it's no secret I love 'em tall but even if I have to compromise, shortness get levels abeg. I can't go for ~ Tribe: Never been an issue for me, so 'compromising' won't be that much of a big deal. As long as he's a black brother, then no sweat. ~ Religion: Na wa o! That's harrrrrrrrrrrd! Okay, as long as he's not a religious freak and much 'weaker' than me religious wise, then maybe I might give it a shot. But having said that, an atheist will be preferable, abeg. Oh, and on functional blokos - it has to be very functional - in or out of marriage. Sex is important and I'm not prudish in anyway. No matter how heavy his wallet is, if he can't perform his basic duty as a man, I've got no time to waste. I'll slap him on his back and it'll be: Oya, find your level! I won't pretend to be a prude and suffer in sex.u@l silence. Now, these are my take / opinions on what I think I would have done if I were still single at this point. |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by damiso(f): 10:36am On Dec 23, 2013 |
Efemena_xy: .Ashley Walters is kinda short though |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by EfemenaXY: 11:01am On Dec 23, 2013 |
^^ Lol! Compromises, Dami, compromises - he's got good looks! bukatyne: HI dami, Hi Bukky, You've got some solid points there, but the thing is this...there are no hard and fast rules about how one should act during courtship and what should or shouldn't happen post courtship (re: marriage). I think it's safe to say that people grow (and I daresay evolve) during courtship. The main thing here is that yes, aside the initial fireworks, the couple try to impress each other. It's a natural instinct, even wild animals do it - you've got birds (e.g: peacocks) displaying their colourful feathers trying to impress and woo a mate, gorillas / apes puffing up and beating their chests (some men do that sef), etc. I think the distinction between us humans and wild animals is when outright deceit comes into it in the form of lying or claiming to be what you aren't. Then yes, it's wrong and that's where the problem lies. Additionally, after all that wooing and wanting to impress each other during courtship, most married couples sort of simmer down a few years down the line. Now this happens because over the years, they've grown to understand each other and (should) instinctively know what their spouse likes or doesn't like. Also, contrary to popular opinion, people do change during marriage. A man who says he isn't one for performing household chores will do so without the blink of an eye when a love one is involved. Same thing goes for us women. A loving and caring spouse will do things to make his / her home a peaceful, conducive atmosphere for themselves and their kids. On the flip side of the coin, some do get lazy during marriage. A bachelor who used to cook (quite badly ) for himself will happily give up the apron and frying pan for his wifey to take over. So you see there are no hard and fast rules about this. At the end of the day, yes, marriage is hardwork and you only reap what you sow into it. It takes a lot of commitment, dedication, understanding and compromises along the way to make it work. It is well with our marriages. |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by EfemenaXY: 11:09am On Dec 23, 2013 |
benedicta0: No, it is not compulsory. It's all about doing what you and your spouse feel comfortable with. The important thing is communicating with your spouse what you both want. Women keeping quite for fear that their man will think them loose / wanton / an ashi is a real problem and it's not helped either when the man in question feels uncomfortable for his wife / partner to air her views about what she wants sex.u@lly. Having said that, I'll be hard pressed to find a man admit that he detests or@l sex. Not only do most men dream that, but they also want their wife / partner to swallow - sort of makes them feel like a king. Whether the woman will go that far is an entirely different thing. Same thing too for women. Many would love to have their man 'go down' on them if you know what I mean. But whether the man feels comfortable doing so is another thing. So it depends really. 1 Like |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by otondo55: 11:47am On Dec 23, 2013 |
Wish to thank you all for your awesome contribution, especially the OP on this topic. Been following from day one, learning and understanding the opposite sex. More wisdom and blessings to your home. Cheers! 1 Like |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by Nobody: 12:53pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
Efemena_xy:I agree with you. The part i don't get is the part where a man will see his WIFE as a slut for expressing their sexual preferences. That's so wrong and bad. Having spent some time both in the states and w/africa, i guess the reason is due to upbringing and cultural barriers. In Nigeria for example, women dare not talk openly about sex, it's seen in bad light, but at that end? All i can say is wow! Sex is for mutual enjoyment, not that of the man alone, and that practice of relegating women to maybe sex tools MUST stop. That's my take sha. 2 Likes |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by Saraha1(f): 1:33pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
PocketEconomist: I agree with you. The part i don't get is the part where a man will see his WIFE as a slut for expressing their sexual preferences. That's so wrong and bad. Having spent some time both in the states and w/africa, i guess the reason is due to upbringing and cultural barriers. In Nigeria for example, women dare not talk openly about sex, it's seen in bad light, but at that end? All i can say is wow! Sex is for mutual enjoyment, not that of the man alone, and that practice of relegating women to maybe sex tools MUST stop. That's my take sha.you are right.I was discussing with a guy some time ago when it came to sex part he was just staring at me as if have committed an offence. while, I just told him I hate people that pretend, since we both agreed no sex before marriage, I need to speak out I no won marry brother without blokos .Dont want to run to nairaland after marriage and start complaining about my husband Zero performance on bed. 1 Like |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by benedicta0(f): 1:42pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
Baby mama:yes o,it is about know how to do the right thing at the right time.thanks 1 Like |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by benedicta0(f): 1:55pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
Efemena_xy:It really depends,it is all about communication,many women will want it but may be too shy to admit it.According to o p.pocket economist, some men are so selfish,they believe it is all about them,not caring if their wife is satisfied or not |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by A40(m): 2:27pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
benedicta0: firstly, I must really thank you all for your great and realistic input in this thread.To the questions, I don't think you will be happy married to a man with no blokos,even if he is very rich,I am sure you will be missing the really thing,with time you will start feeling disgusted, no matter the size of his wallet.I can't ever be faithful to a woman that does not give head. It really is that simple! I advice all women to learn the art. You think Samson fell for Delilah because of her beauty alone? By the time he starts comparing notes with his friends eventually he would want to find what he's been missing and who knows where his search might lead him to |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by A40(m): 2:37pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
dayokanu: For me o. Any girl who says no sex abeg run unless she is under 22 and is still a novice. Forget wetin pastor dey yarn o. No be them go follow you live in the same house.Haaaa 22 ke? 21 year old girl in this present regime has finished Uni or is already serving or doing her Masters. So long as you are at least 18 or in Uni you are old enough IMO. On average girls start to knack before guys sef! I know how many QC girls have been slaughtered in many a BQ back in them days and to them it was a sign of levels to date Uni boys in their 200 or 300 Levels (if you be Jambite nothing for you it was that bad) Some have been kpanshing steady in their youth and when they get to marriage age want to start rationing the puna. I call BS |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by damiso(f): 2:59pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
A-40: Awon Unilag Club Boys .If not for Naija se you guys know that is Statutory Rape |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by thehunted(m): 3:56pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
I see you guys endorse oral head. I'm not trying to be selfish here but the d!ck and the v.jaj are not the same. I ve been sexually active since I was 17 but never given a woman head and I doubt if I will do it. It is simply not hygienic. I have lots of ways of making her feel really good. I know what I gat and that can please any woman. But I say a big no to giving a woman head. Call me selfish....na u sabi. |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by EfemenaXY: 4:03pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
thehunted: I see you guys endorse oral head. I'm not trying to be selfish here but the d!ck and the v.jaj are not the same. I ve been sexually active since I was 17 but never given a woman head and I doubt if I will do it. It is simply not hygienic. I have lots of ways of making her feel really good. I know what I gat and that can please any woman. But I say a big no to giving a woman head. Call me selfish....na u sabi. Nope, no one's going to call you names here for your own opinion, but I've got a question for you though. Re: the bolded, explain why you feel 'going down' on a woman is unhygienic, but yet it isn't unhygienic for a woman to go down on a man? Double standards, perhaps?? |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by Nobody: 4:03pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
thehunted: I see you guys endorse oral head. I'm not trying to be selfish here but the d!ck and the v.jaj are not the same. I ve been sexually active since I was 17 but never given a woman head and I doubt if I will do it. It is simply not hygienic. I have lots of ways of making her feel really good. I know what I gat and that can please any woman. But I say a big no to giving a woman head. Call me selfish....na u sabi.But you can poke that place, and you expect MouthAction in return? Well, it's your opinion though, but as for me, anything that makes my baby happy (i.e. If she deserves it) i will gladly do it. I don't want my kids to look like the gate man |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by Nobody: 4:06pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
Efemena_xy:Help me ask him o! If you cam't give, don't take. No double standards. Women deserve the wildest pleasure too, don't you think so? |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by EfemenaXY: 4:07pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
^^ Yep, I think so too... @Ihe: abeg close your eyes - we nor wan spoil you... PocketEconomist: But you can poke that place, and you expect MouthAction in return? Well, it's your opinion though, but as for me, anything that makes my baby happy (i.e. If she deserves it) i will gladly do it. I don't want my kids to look like the gate man ***faints!*** |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by jumzzy448: 4:08pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
benedicta0: firstly, I must really thank you all for your great and realistic input in this thread.To the questions, I don't think you will be happy married to a man with no blokos,even if he is very rich,I am sure you will be missing the really thing,with time you will start feeling disgusted, no matter the size of his wallet.Mouthaction is not compulsory. But if your hubby likes it, don't hold back. Funniest thing is not all men like mouth action. And I don't see why a woman should not willingly give in if her husband likes it. But it should always be do me I do you. When You give him bj, let him also go down on you. Let both benefit from the enjoyment. 2 Likes |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by Nobody: 4:12pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
jumzzy448:Simple and short. Maximum pleasure for both parties. #NoCompromise |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by EfemenaXY: 4:14pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
PE, abeg explain the gateman concept of your post na... |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by Nobody: 4:17pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
Efemena_xy: PE, abeg explain the gateman concept of your post na...Abi you never grab, ok, make i explain... If you no do your work well, another man go do am for you. And i heard these gatemen have super sperms which means that .... |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by EfemenaXY: 4:19pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
^^ Haha! Crazy example but the message behind it is real. Yes, a man who ignores his wife's emotional needs deliberately should be aware that there will always be 'outsiders' waiting to fill that gap. All the more reason why couples discussing their sex.u@l needs and fulfilment should never be under-estimated. |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by Nobody: 4:23pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
thehunted: Nice thread. Just have something to point out. I just read where baby mama wrote that a woman can change her mind at the last minute. Wowww. So can the guys dump their girls at the altar if they see a younger woman in the audience?? How I wish that part of the thread will be erased. Please don't be disappointed,let me explain further I take marriage very very seriously and I would advise that couples once married should do whatever is in their power to heal a hurting marriage. I also take courtship very seriously I will never endorse these packaged bride business where a man goes to his village for Christmas for 5 days and comes back with a picture of a fiancée that he marries by Easter That is a mockery of marriage IMHO Having said that,the courtship period is extremely important That where you have a chance to know yourselves,your likes and dislikes,mannerisms,what you can live it and what you can't,learn his culture if he is of a different culture,plan your proposed future together In that period,if the man is not measuring up,you have a chance to leave and find another person That is what courtship is about The man can do same also,it's not one sided. No woman should have to stick with a man she is not feeling just because the public knows you are getting married Getting married is not got married Yes I left a fiancée for another man Granted I broke his heart but I have never for one day regretted marrying the man I eventually married Guess what? The fiancé I left now has a second wife So God was looking out for me If you are not feeling the fiancé or fiancée,it's good to move on Marriage to me is a lifetime commitment and it has to feel good from the very beginning 2 Likes |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by Nobody: 4:25pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
Efemena_xy: ^^ Haha!my sister na true o. With wetin i dey see for unilag, i don learn my lesson. If you see as strong men dey flog married students, post graduate students and even married female lecturers you go shake head. Their men no dey try at all. I get one story to share but make i look, make sure the person no dey for hia **looks left, looks right, runs away* i dey come. |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by EfemenaXY: 4:27pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
^^ Pls share your story. It's an anonymous forum and we're all learning. |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by Nobody: 4:28pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by jumzzy448: 4:28pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
PocketEconomist: Simple and short. Maximum pleasure for both parties. #NoCompromiseYes oo. That's how it's meant to be. If a man knows he can't go down on his wife, he should not expect bj from her. |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by jumzzy448: 4:31pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
PocketEconomist: my sister na true o. With wetin i dey see for unilag, i don learn my lesson. If you see as strong men dey flog married students, post graduate students and even married female lecturers you go shake head. Their men no dey try at all. I get one story to share but make i look, make sure the person no dey for hia **looks left, looks right, runs away* i dey come.I beg come tell us the story oo. |
Re: Making Love & Raising A Family by Nobody: 4:34pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
Baby mama:You are also right. During my stay in Carson, i noticed this funny trend of our igbo brothers phoning home so that they will arrange wife for him. That caused, and is still causing problems in my family in the states. I will NEVER make that mistake. Even a senior uncle of mine (although the age gap between us no wide) ditched his Trinidad girl he knew since his days at Cali State because of pressure to marry from home. Na look i dey look them. But gini ka anyi ga-eme maka ugly trend a? Gini na-eme ndi ulo anyi? Is it compulsory to marry from home via arranged marriage? Who knows what my relatives have planned for me sef? |
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