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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by jmichael(m): 11:19am On Dec 16, 2013
phantom: do you know that the MbbS is actually two bachelors degrees? Its equivalent to a phD.thats why they are called DOCTORS

Anoda product of same sex marriage has stepped into d fray. D brain cells of dese pple don't develop evenly.

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by tuoyoojo(m): 11:20am On Dec 16, 2013
I wonder y dis people wud continue to beef doctors saying that d profession is humanitarian. Who paid their school fess and bought books for them when they were in med sch. Who went thru all d hardship with them.if you think doctors r selfish, then go to med school become a doctor and give free humanitarian services.
If the other sectors of those providing essential service think that they can cope with poor funding, then by all means let them continue. For us, enuf is enuf

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by phantom(m): 11:22am On Dec 16, 2013
doctor shouldnt go on strike.laughable! Because it is the doctors strike that the common man feels abi? How many of you have called for stella oduahs head? How many of you? Because you cant touch her.you cant touch those thieves in abuja who kill millions of us everyday from useless laws and policies,but you ll readily crucify doctors who actually work and strive to keep the health system afloat.when govt tries to oppress them,you the masses begin to blackmail them with the hippocratic oath.hypocrites!

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by phantom(m): 11:28am On Dec 16, 2013
jmichael:

Well said Mr. Man bt av u wondered y oda health care profesionals also with highly specialised training (e.g Pharmacists, Nurses etc) c doctors as greedy pple and wld neva want to show even d slightest solidarity to doctors neva ending strike? Let's be sincere to eachoda, do u want us to believe dat d reason for d strike is coz dia r no MRI or CT scanners?













Mind u, I'm nt an outsider
they see doctors as greedy because the doctor insists on the right thing that should be done.the doctor heads the health team ANYWHERE in the world but the nurses and pharmacists would have none of it.why do you think they want to become consultants like doctors? Answer me then i ll take this debate up a notch.

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by ojimbo(m): 11:32am On Dec 16, 2013
Greedy and wicked beasts wearing human fresh, wooo to Nigerians for your wickedness is beyong imagination, every sunday they will go to church and have the front seat, give a huge amount of tithe, claims to be christians while they are all beast, greedyness is worse that civil war
Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by phantom(m): 11:32am On Dec 16, 2013
tuoyoojo: I wonder y dis people wud continue to beef doctors saying that d profession is humanitarian. Who paid their school fess and bought books for them when they were in med sch. Who went thru all d hardship with them.if you think doctors r selfish, then go to med school become a doctor and give free humanitarian services.
If the other sectors of those providing essential service think that they can cope with poor funding, then by all means let them continue. For us, enuf is enuf
dont mind them.abroad, especially the US, STUDENTS take loans to go through med school.its expensive and even in nigeria no other student spends more than the medical student .fact! The only students that come close are the pharmacy students.we are not Gods and neither are we asking to be treated like Gods but we should get our due.simple.

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by phantom(m): 11:41am On Dec 16, 2013
my teaching hospital has only ONE functional ultraround machine as i type this.i use that machine and scan up to 60 people everyday.we even have to turn back some people because if i have to use that machine to scan everyone that comes, i would be there till 11 at night.one machine! The mri machine in the same hospital is 0.2 tesla (this value indicates the strenght of the magnet in it and the quality of images you get).abroad they use more than 7 tesla machines.see the difference! How much is an mri machine? About 300million naira.what is this amount to the nigerian govt.cant they afford to put at least two of such machines in EACH teaching hospital? Yet nigerians sit in their houses and wonder why people fly to india.

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by phantom(m): 11:47am On Dec 16, 2013
you think people fly to india because the doctors here are subpar? In the US, UK, GERMANY, SPAIN, SOUTH AFRICA its still nigerian doctors who practice there with their basic nigerian medical degree o! The doctors are not the problem in this country.your leaders are. On the contrary doctors are the constant value in this equation.the variables are losing value.i wish nigerians can see.the doctors are NOT the problem! Your leaders are.but as usual paid PDP hacks are trying to make this whole thing about politics.

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by Samgreguc(m): 11:53am On Dec 16, 2013
jmichael: D mumu dat said mbbs is equivalent to Ph.D must b a product of same sex marriage.
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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by Samgreguc(m): 11:56am On Dec 16, 2013
phantom: do you know that the MbbS is actually two bachelors degrees? Its equivalent to a phD.thats why they are called DOCTORS
Don't be so diminuted bro. Its never equivalent. Its never even up to an Msc. Degree.

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by phantom(m): 11:59am On Dec 16, 2013
Samgreguc:
Don't be so diminuted bro. Its never equivalent. Its never even up to an Msc. Degree.
funny!masters? grin Thats a debate for another day.
Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by Samgreguc(m): 12:05pm On Dec 16, 2013
phantom: they see doctors as greedy because the doctor insists on the right thing that should be done.the doctor heads the health team ANYWHERE in the world but the nurses and pharmacists would have none of it.why do you think they want to become consultants like doctors? Answer me then i ll take this debate up a notch.
u must be high on cheap drugs.
Do you know what the health sector mean? If u mst knw, it doesn't mean hospital.
The Pharmacist can head the hospital with just a little admin. Course(if at all necessary).
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On the consultant issue, what is the meaning of consultant? Med. Doctor? U beta go check ur "words and meanings(dictionary)"

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by Samgreguc(m): 12:10pm On Dec 16, 2013
phantom: funny!masters? grin Thats a debate for another day.
grin and I laf.

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by MrsAwesome: 12:13pm On Dec 16, 2013
phantom: do you know that the MbbS is actually two bachelors degrees? Its equivalent to a phD.thats why they are called DOCTORS
go back to S S1...please. search for the meaning of the word doctor

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by phantom(m): 12:21pm On Dec 16, 2013
Samgreguc:
u must be high on cheap drugs.
Do you know what the health sector mean? If u mst knw, it doesn't mean hospital.
The Pharmacist can head the hospital with just a little admin. Course(if at all necessary).
.
On the consultant issue, what is the meaning of consultant? Med. Doctor? U beta go check ur "words and meanings(dictionary)"
on the first point, i agree completely with you.anyone can head the hospital with a course in administration.i meant the doctors head the health team as regards management of patients.it must be respected otherwise i as a doctor can say a wound must be opened only after five days and a nurse who feels we are all equal would decide otherwise and say the wound should be opened after two weeks.as regards the second issue, who is a consultant? A consultant is the go- to guy or expert in a particular area.because of the different areas in medicine, it became imperative that doctors had to choose specific areas to specialise in post mbbs.after undergoing extra training in a particular field and passing the required exams, you become an expert or consultant in that field.people CONSULT you for help in that particular area.now bros please tell me what extra training nurses and other health workers have under gone in their profession to warrant being called consultants? Look this whole thing to them is a competition.its all about them trying to rub shoulders with the doctor.qed.dont be hoodwinked.

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by jmichael(m): 12:30pm On Dec 16, 2013
phantom: they see doctors as greedy because the doctor insists on the right thing that should be done.the doctor heads the health team ANYWHERE in the world but the nurses and pharmacists would have none of it.why do you think they want to become consultants like doctors? Answer me then i ll take this debate up a notch.


Welcom to ma world. Nw I see where d griviance of docs lie. Bt forgive ma using d general word 'docs' coz I av met wit some foreign trained docs who apreciate and support d development of oda arms of d health care team. U must b one of d locally trained unexposed medics who feel everyoda profesional in d hospital shld pander to ur whim and caprices. Look, for d sole reason of improvin d quality of service rendered to patients, oda arms av decided to do d noble tin (study further and hence bcom consultants in dia chosen fields) bt dis move has made d docs sooo uncomfortable. D good news is dat nobody cares, nobdy is fightin u and nobody has d luxury of time to engage in a needless and fruitless battle wit u. U can sit bck on ur laptop idlelessly and continue to spew toxic stuffs garnished with reckless and na.ked ignorance while odas study harder and further to d benefit of d patients; dis is 21st century bro!

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by chiketee(m): 12:35pm On Dec 16, 2013
How many of you foolish ppl have ever seen a doctor and decided to reduce the price of ur services? Can the doctor drive into a filling station and get fuel for free, even if he/ she falls I'll and goes to a hospital, would they get free treatment, how many of u have bought a car and sowed into ur doctors life or pay his kids school fees?. So where is all this trash about philanthropy coming from. Ignorance and just plain jealousy. Health care in the United States is one of the most expensive in the world. That's why the government funds it. If you don't have health insurance no one is gonna touch you. Rather than task ur government to improve on health care and be accountable u r all here talking crap.

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by toprealman: 12:38pm On Dec 16, 2013
Lovin it, GEJ over to you.
Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by phantom(m): 12:40pm On Dec 16, 2013
chiketee: How many of you foolish ppl have ever seen a doctor and decided to reduce the price of ur services? Can the doctor drive into a filling station and get fuel for free, even if he/ she falls I'll and goes to a hospital, would they get free treatment, how many of u have bought a car and sowed into ur doctors life or pay his kids school fees?. So where is all this trash about philanthropy coming from. Ignorance and just plain jealousy. Health care in the United States is one of the most expensive in the world. That's why the government funds it. If you don't have health insurance no one is gonna touch you. Rather than task ur government to improve on health care and be accountable u r all here talking crap.
gringrin
Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by haryourbarmeah(f): 12:40pm On Dec 16, 2013
The health system is really bad,there was no lite for about a week in the accident and emergency unit of an hospital.They had to attend to patient with torch light.something has to be done on time.
Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by phantom(m): 12:53pm On Dec 16, 2013
haryourbarmeah: The health system is really bad,there was no lite for about a week in the accident and emergency unit of an hospital.They had to attend to patient with torch light.something has to be done on time.
yes maybe they ll also blame the doctors for that too.maybe the doctor should have brought his gen from home. grin

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by jmichael(m): 1:04pm On Dec 16, 2013
chiketee: How many of you foolish ppl have ever seen a doctor and decided to reduce the price of ur services? Can the doctor drive into a filling station and get fuel for free, even if he/ she falls I'll and goes to a hospital, would they get free treatment, how many of u have bought a car and sowed into ur doctors life or pay his kids school fees?. So where is all this trash about philanthropy coming from. Ignorance and just plain jealousy. Health care in the United States is one of the most expensive in the world. That's why the government funds it. If you don't have health insurance no one is gonna touch you. Rather than task ur government to improve on health care and be accountable u r all here talking crap.

Ua welcome my patient.


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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by bskyb(m): 1:09pm On Dec 16, 2013
Yes, doctors are not ASUU and it is very true that patients die when they down tools. However some things need to be set straight, the demand has nothing to do with an increment in salary. It has more to do with improvement in the quality of the health sector. I have seen operations carried out under the illumination of a Tecno phone.
I have seen cases where ordinary screw drivers were bought from a nearby market to complete a surgery. It is a certainty that power will be interrupted during any average surgery (and people wonder why some surgeries are not done here) . Even cotton wool may be a luxury .......you are a doctor , so you know I am not exaggerating . People are dying already, and more will if nothing is done.
Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by allycat: 1:24pm On Dec 16, 2013
I have a solution for this, sack all Nigerian doctors from government hospitals and employ Indian or Egyptian doctors and nurses or better still mandate nurses and pharmacist and lab technicians to take over patient care. After all these people are all humanitarian and will give you free service and the highest quality with substandard equipment unlike we stupid Nigerian doctors. Yes I oh am one of the stupid, useless Nigerian trained doctors and I was sacked by Lagos state 2 years ago so all these kill doctor comments aren't new to me.
Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by explicit770(f): 1:24pm On Dec 16, 2013
phantom: do you know that the MbbS is actually two bachelors degrees? Its equivalent to a phD.thats why they are called DOCTORS
It seems to be more than two(2) degrees my brother:
Biochemistry
Anatomy
Physiology
Pharmacology
Microbiology
Chemical Pathology
Haematology
Morbidy Anatomy
Paediatrics
Obstetrics and Gynaecology
Radiology
Anasthesia
Opthamology
Ear,nose and Throat
Orthopaedics
surgery
Medicine
Community Health
These are the departments that make up Medicine in any University.
Each department has its Head of Department as in any other departments outside medical school in any university.
There are students that have their first degree(Bsc) in most of the department listed above.
Medical students are trained to know everything that students who have their first degrees(Bsc) these courses know.
This means MBBS is made up of almost 18 departments
Medicine and Surgery as a course is quite demanding and stressful.

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by phantom(m): 1:34pm On Dec 16, 2013
otokx:

Mrs Awesome:
go back to S S1...please. search for the meaning of the word doctor
jmichael:

Anoda product of same sex marriage has stepped into d fray. D brain cells of dese pple don't develop evenly.
MBBS is not and can never be equal to PhD

Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery, or in Latin: Medicinae Baccalaureus, Baccalaureus Chirurgiae (abbreviated in various ways, viz. MBBS or MBChB, MB BS, MB BChir, BM BCh, MB BCh, MB ChB, BM BS, BM, BMed etc.), are the two first professional undergraduate degrees awarded upon graduation from medical school in medicine and surgery by universities in various countries that follow the tradition of the United Kingdom. The naming suggests that they are two separate degrees; however, in practice, they are usually treated as one and awarded together. In countries that follow the tradition of the United States, the degree is awarded as M.D. or D.O., which is a professional doctorate degree.[1]

Doctor, as a title, originates from the Latin word of the same spelling and meaning.[1] The word is originally an agentive noun of the Latin verb docēre [dɔˈkeːrɛ] 'to teach'. It has been used as an honored academic title for over a millennium in Europe, where it dates back to the rise of the first universities. This use spread to the Americas, former European colonies, and is now prevalent in most of the world. [b]Contracted "Dr" or "Dr.", it is used as a designation for a person who has obtained a doctorate-level degree. Doctorates may be research doctorates or professional doctorates[/b]. When addressing several people, each of whom holds a doctoral title, one may use the plural contraction "Drs" (or "Drs." in American English) – or in some languages (for example, German) "Dres." may be used – for example, instead of Dr Miller and Dr Rubinstein: Drs Miller and Rubinstein. When referring to relatives with the same surname the form "The Doctors Smith" can be used. The abbreviation Drs. can also mean doctorandus, a Dutch academic title.

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Medicine,_Bachelor_of_Surgery
source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_%28title%29

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by GentleFrank(m): 1:59pm On Dec 16, 2013
Okay !
Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by boseko: 2:08pm On Dec 16, 2013
@phantom thank you for educating them....or at least attempting to. I'm sure some or maybe a lot will stolid refuse to understand and appreciate what it means to be a doctor. Humanitarian? Maybe in a society that works. If the people want free health, we should clamour for government funding not expect hardworking doctors who are parents, husbands, wives etc. to shortchange themselves all in name of humanitarianism for a public that scorns you and a government that doesn't appreciate you. Let's set our priorities right!

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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by jmichael(m): 2:08pm On Dec 16, 2013
phantom:

Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery, or in Latin: Medicinae Baccalaureus, Baccalaureus Chirurgiae (abbreviated in various ways, viz. MBBS or MBChB, MB BS, MB BChir, BM BCh, MB BCh, MB ChB, BM BS, BM, BMed etc.), are the two first professional undergraduate degrees awarded upon graduation from medical school in medicine and surgery by universities in various countries that follow the tradition of the United Kingdom. The naming suggests that they are two separate degrees; however, in practice, they are usually treated as one and awarded together. In countries that follow the tradition of the United States, the degree is awarded as M.D. or D.O., which is a professional doctorate degree.[1]

Doctor, as a title, originates from the Latin word of the same spelling and meaning.[1] The word is originally an agentive noun of the Latin verb docēre [dɔˈkeːrɛ] 'to teach'. It has been used as an honored academic title for over a millennium in Europe, where it dates back to the rise of the first universities. This use spread to the Americas, former European colonies, and is now prevalent in most of the world. [b]Contracted "Dr" or "Dr.", it is used as a designation for a person who has obtained a doctorate-level degree. Doctorates may be research doctorates or professional doctorates[/b]. When addressing several people, each of whom holds a doctoral title, one may use the plural contraction "Drs" (or "Drs." in American English) – or in some languages (for example, German) "Dres." may be used – for example, instead of Dr Miller and Dr Rubinstein: Drs Miller and Rubinstein. When referring to relatives with the same surname the form "The Doctors Smith" can be used. The abbreviation Drs. can also mean doctorandus, a Dutch academic title.

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Medicine,_Bachelor_of_Surgery
source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_%28title%29


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Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by Nobody: 2:21pm On Dec 16, 2013
fkaz:

What nonsense is this one saying, who can be more greedy than the president in Aso rock who budget 1billion naira for food in a year
Na N1b per month for president's food not presidency, I read d news when Mama P (Peace or Patience) is campaigning to her fellow market women on announcement of Tinubu's daughter as Iyaloja dat she is better dat her as she spent one billion per month to buy food from d market. This was confirmed according to the news by the market women present answering 'na soooo' when Mama P asked dem 'not be so?'
Pls next time dont understate our 'monetary spending' because of impending 7yrs jail term. And she did say dat was d budget but amt spent.
But wait oooo, dat amt self fit establish a bizness to absord over 50 ppl and increase the nation's tax income! And some group of ppl blivs dis administratn is d best. time will surely tell and history/political sc students will av more books to read.
Re: Medical Doctors Begin Nationwide Strike Wednesday by docadams: 2:24pm On Dec 16, 2013
jmichael:

Well said Mr. Man bt av u wondered y oda health care profesionals also with highly specialised training (e.g Pharmacists, Nurses etc) c doctors as greedy pple and wld neva want to show even d slightest solidarity to doctors neva ending strike? Let's be sincere to eachoda, do u want us to believe dat d reason for d strike is coz dia r no MRI or CT scanners?













Mind u, I'm nt an outsider
You are an outsider otherwise an ignorant insider. If you posses the slightest idea of the relationship between doctors and other group of health workers in this country you won't write the rubbish you posted above. If you want to continue this discussion make sure you have facts at your finger tip or forever remain silent.
From your constricted reasoning you feel other health workers don't support the doctors when they agitate for improvement in their welfare. That reasoning is from the pit of imbecility. It shows you don't know anything. If you want to know ask and I will oblige you on NL.

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