The heresy is in your mind Goshen

nobody is saying Melchizedec is Christ in human form. In Spirit thats what am talking about...

MEILYN: The heresy is in your mind Goshen

nobody is saying Melchizedec is Christ in human form. In Spirit thats what am talking about...

Never mind, happy new year to YOU! You'll be alright!

Goshen360: If the scripture says Melchizedek is a man and that he reigned or ruled as a king of a specific location, Salem and was a priest of the Most High. It will mean first, as a man, he was born of a woman and a man because the only man that was created was Adam and Eve from Adam, every other man is born, including Christ in His human nature.

2. It will mean, as a king, he rules in a physical geographical location and it will take physical human being to rule as king over a geographical location.

3. As a priest, he will be physically available to minister unto God.

If some teaches Melchizedek is Christ, it will mean Christ physically ruled on this earth before being born of a woman and we are no more talking about the second coming of Christ; we will be talking about the third coming because he would have first come as Melchi, come as Christ and then thirdly coming again - This is a destructive heresy!

Wherever Christ appear in types and shadows, the new testament testified to that truth and revelation; confirming that Christ fulfilled those appearance of types and shadows. When we read in scriptures like, "the Spirit descending LIKE a dove" Does that mean the Spirit IS A Dove? Christ AS the sacrificial lamb, does that mean Christ IS a lamb?

The controversial verse here is,

Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

What we need is investigate this text so it doesn't appear contradictory to the other text. If some are saying, Christ IS Melchizedek, we all know Christ is born of a woman and means is WITH mother while Melchizedek is said to be WITHOUT mother. If Christ IS Melchi, why will ONE have MOTHER (Christ) and the other is WITHOUT mother (Melchi) and yet they are SAME person? Our solution is to investigate the text in Hebrew\Greek language AS IT IS UNDERSTOOD by those who heard these scriptures.

Without father, without mother . . . is a rabbinical phrase that means (in Greek) apatōr and understood to mean whose father is not recorded in the genealogies. How do you describe a man who you don't know his father? You either call him a bastard or a man whose father is not known or a man without father. Such phrase (without father\mother) was used to describe Melchizedek.

without descent . . . is the same rabbinical expression in Greek agenealogētos and it means, one whose descent there is no record of, without genealogy BUT we know Christ's as a man have genealogy - Matthew 1. So, if Melchi IS Christ, how could one have genealogy and the other don't? It simply means, they are not same person.

. . . having neither beginning of days . . . also a rabbinical text meaning, his BIRTH, understood as BEGINNING OF DAYS, wasn't known or recorded neither is his DEATH (END of life). BIRTH is the beginning of days, DEATH is the end of life as existence. All these information are missing in the genealogy and so, he was chosen to typify Christ's priesthood. So, what scripture is saying is when he was BORN (beginning of days) and when he died (end of life) was not known or missing in the Genesis genealogy. Therefore, he was COMPARED to the ETERNAL Sonship and Priesthood of Christ, not the PERSON OF CHRIST - made LIKE (not, that he IS) Son of God.

This is where I will end my argument on this subject. I'm not doing this into the new year. Happy new year to y'all in advance.

you don try, but I doubt the law lovers are willing to learn. Happy new year.

MEILYN:
nobody is saying Melchizedec is Christ in human form. In Spirit thats what am talking about...

"For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace" (Hebrews 7:1-2).

I don't know of any mortal that the word of God can rightly refer to as the "king of righteousness" and "king of peace". Jesus Himself said: "There is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17). The bible also says "there is none righteous, no, not one" (Romans 3:10). And yet we have someone called the "king of righteousness".

"Having neither beginning of days, nor end of life but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually" (Hebrews 7:3). This means Melchizedek is an eternal being and his priesthood is eternal. Again a mortal cannot fit this profile.

"The Eternal hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." Psalm 110:4. The Most High God personally swore an oath for the ordination and eternal longevity of the priesthood of Melchizedek. Christ's Priesthood is named after Melchizedek. It is the High Priest's name that is placed upon an order just as Aaron's name was upon the Aaronic priesthood. Can there be two eternal high priests before God? A mortal cannot fit this profile.

So who else can it be? I'm confused!

kalokalo: "For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace" (Hebrews 7:1-2).

I don't know of any mortal that the word of God can rightly refer to as the "king of righteousness" and "king of peace". Jesus Himself said: "There is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17). The bible also says "there is none righteous, no, not one" (Romans 3:10). And yet we have someone called the "king of righteousness".

"Having neither beginning of days, nor end of life but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually" (Hebrews 7:3). This means Melchizedek is an eternal being and his priesthood is eternal. Again a mortal cannot fit this profile.

"The Eternal hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." Psalm 110:4. The Most High God personally swore an oath for the ordination and eternal longevity of the priesthood of Melchizedek. Christ's Priesthood is named after Melchizedek. It is the High Priest's name that is placed upon an order just as Aaron's name was upon the Aaronic priesthood. Can there be two eternal high priests before God? A mortal cannot fit this profile.

So who else can it be? I'm confused!

The description fits Jesus no doubt since He is God.
The first Adam died.The last Adam lived forever.

The aaronic priesthood died.The Melchizedek priesthood lives forever.

The bible is all about Christ who lives in us..we are of the Order of Melchizedek,Let no one fool you here.